NHL Rumor Mill – February 7, 2019

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Latest on Mitch Marner, Cam Fowler, Micheal Ferland plus updates on the Predators, Bruins, Wild and more in today’s NHL rumor mill. 

PREDATORS NOT DONE DEALING?

THE TENNESSEAN: In the aftermath of the Nashville Predators acquiring checking-line forwards Brian Boyle and Cody McLeod, Joe Rexrode believes general manager David Poile isn’t done making moves before the Feb. 25 trade deadline. He speculates a core player could be packaged with picks and/or prospects “for a larger scoring piece.” While he doesn’t expect Poile is desperate he feels the Preds GM is willing to listen to a good offer. Rexrode thinks players such as Columbus’ Artemi Panarin, Ottawa’s Mark Stone or Philadelphia’s Wayne Simmonds could be on Poile’s radar while speculating Kevin Fiala, Craig Smith or Eeli Tolvanen could be trade bait. 

NICHOLS ON HOCKEY: TSN’s Bob McKenzie appeared on NBCSN yesterday suggesting Poile could be “big-game hunting” leading up to deadline day, suggesting he could inquire into the availability of players like Panarin, Stone or Matt Duchene. He also believes Poile could be willing to part with a first-round pick and perhaps a high-end prospect like Tolvanen. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Poile’s proven willing in recent years to swing big deals to bolster his club. With the Predators in “win now” mode, he could make a move for one of the notable forwards for the right price though he could also be willing to stick with his current roster if that deal doesn’t materialize. I can see him moving a guy like Fiala or Smith but I’m not sure he’ll sacrifice a potential future star like Tolvanen for a rental player. 

MARNER’S AGENT CLARIFIES COMMENTS

TSN: Toronto Star columnist Dave Feschuk said comments made by the agent for Toronto Maple Leafs star Mitch Marner regarding his contract negotiations were referring to events from last summer. Darren Ferris’ remarks claiming the Leafs were low-balling his client came a day after the Leafs re-signed Auston Matthews and caused a stir among Leafs followers. Ferris insists progress had been made but his client still prefers waiting until after this season to resume negotiations. He added there was no animosity between the two sides. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Marner, meanwhile, doesn’t sound concerned about this situation. While saying he’s in no rush to re-sign, the young forward believes a deal will get done. The Leafs will re-sign Marner but it’s going to cost them a lot, perhaps as much as $11 million per season. 

Are the Montreal Canadiens looking at Anaheim Ducks defenseman Cam Fowler as a trade target? (Photo via NHL Images)

COULD THE CANADIENS PURSUE FOWLER?

THE ATHLETIC (subscription required): Sean Gordon noted Montreal Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin was scouting the Anaheim Ducks in their two games leading up to Tuesday’s contest between the two clubs. While Bergevin has said he’s not interested in pursuing rental players, Gordon suggests he might look at players with term on their contracts.

With the Canadiens in need of a left-side defenseman to skate alongside Shea Weber, he wondered if the Habs GM was looking at Ducks blueliner Cam Fowler, who’s in the first season of an eight-year deal worth $6.5 million annually. Gordon points out the Canadiens have depth in speedy, skilled forwards and forward prospects, which might interest the Ducks. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Gordon noted he’s merely speculating here. Still, it’s an interesting suggestion. The Canadiens desperately need an experienced rearguard on Weber’s right side, they have the type of trade bait to interest the Ducks, and the Habs also have the cap space to take on Fowler’s cap hit.

The problem, however, could be the Ducks’ asking price, which could be someone like Jesperi Kotkaniemi or a prospect like Nick Suzuki or Ryan Poehling. Fowler also has a four-team no-trade list. If the Canadiens are on it and he’s unwilling to waive it, further musings of a Fowler-to-Montreal trade is pointless. (CORRECTION: It’s a four-team trade list, which significantly reduces the number of teams he can be dealt to.)

BRUINS NEED SCORING

NBC SPORTS: Justin Leger cites TSN’s Bob McKenzie saying the Boston Bruins need offense, either a second-line winger or a third-line center. “They could use another offensive weapon in their top nine,” he said. McKenzie suggested Los Angeles Kings forward Tyler Toffoli could be a good fit. He also speculated GM Don Sweeney might look at bigger names like Columbus’ Artemi Panarin, Philadelphia’s Wayne Simmonds, or Carolina’s Micheal Ferland, though Sweeney could be reluctant to spend on a rental player this season. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Bruins need additional scoring punch beyond their top line or they can forget about contending for the Stanley Cup this season. Sweeney paid a lot for a rental player last year when he acquired Rick Nash but it didn’t pan out as hoped. As McKenzie suggests, the Bruins GM could look at a player like Toffoli who still has term left on his contract. 

HURRICANES MIGHT KEEP FERLAND

TSN: Darren Dreger reports the Carolina Hurricanes have pulled back a little on their efforts to trading pending UFA winger Micheal Ferland. Management will hold off for the next several games to see how the club performs and could keep him as an “own rental” as they push for a playoff berth. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Hurricanes didn’t want to risk losing Ferland to free agency for nothing this summer and were also believed willing to move one of their right-shot defensemen for a scoring forward. But with the Hurricanes just three points out of a wild-card berth and winning six of their last 10, management could be reluctant to do anything that might adversely affect their recent improvement. The addition of winger Nino Niederreiter last month also provided a welcome boost to their offense. 

COULD THE CANUCKS MOVE SUTTER?

THE ATHLETIC (subscription required): Jason Brough speculates center Brandon Sutter’s tenure with the Vancouver Canucks could be drawing to a close thanks to the development of Bo Horvat, the additions of Elias Pettersson and Jay Beagle, and promising Adam Gaudette in their system. Sutter has a full no-trade clause which reverts to a partial no-trade this summer. Brough suggests perhaps Sutter would be amenable to a move now while he has full control over his destinations. If the Canucks decide to shop Sutter now, the Boston Bruins and Minnesota Wild could be worth calling. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Brough points out this is all speculation on his part. Still, if they don’t move Sutter before the deadline they certainly could be open to that possibility this summer when they’ll have more trade options. 

SHOULD THE WILD START SELLING?

NBC SPORTS: With captain Mikko Koivu suffering a season-ending knee injury, James O’Brien suggests it’s time for the Minnesota Wild to become sellers. He notes they’ve been middling at best this season as they cling to a wild-card spot in the Western Conference and simply making the playoffs might not be good enough anymore.

Possible trade candidates could include pending UFA center Eric Staal or forward Charlie Coyle. O’Brien also suggests looking at the possibility of dealing Zach Parise and/or Ryan Suter, though the 34-year-olds both carry full no-movement clauses and are signed through 2024-25 with annual cap hits of $7.54 million.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Parise and Suter aren’t going anywhere but there should be a market for Staal and Coyle if Wild GM Paul Fenton wants to start rebuilding before the trade deadline. Their play over the next couple of weeks in Koivu’s absence will determine what Fenton does. 

AVS WON’T SHOP FIRST-ROUND PICKS

THE DENVER POST: Mike Chambers reports Colorado Avalanche GM Joe Sakic believes his club has enough time to reverse their fortunes and climb back into a playoff spot. Still, he said he and his staff might work on a trade or two to improve their depth scoring. Sakic said he won’t part with his two first-round picks in 2019 and won’t give up prospects like defensemen Cale Makar and Connor Timmins or forwards Shane Bowers or Martin Kaut.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Sakic does have two picks in the third round of this year’s draft and I can see him shopping his second-round pick. One or two of those might help them land a rental scorer. 







65 Comments

  1. I think at the end of the day, Marne will be the leaf, and will be after Mathews leaves as a UFA down the road. Mathews is a rear player, but in parts of 3 seasons he”s een hurt three times and i’m afraid he”s injury prone already.
    People will think I’m crazy but I think Marne is the one to lock up long term. There”s the winger/center debate but Marne was a center all through junior and who say he can’t be again as he progresses in his career. They con’t afford them all but Gardners is gone at seasons end thank God every game him and Zeitsev looks worst and worst, and Nylander is a goner over the summer to. He may have more skill but he’s as soft as a boiled weiner and I’d take Kappy over him any day and I’ve always said it.

    • LEAFS

      I have been talking about how bad Gardiner and Zaitsev are since last season …and posters have had mixed reviews with me …but I hope its clear as day now …in what Ive been saying …and yes I’ve also maintained that Kapanen is a better asset than Nylnader all season long this year as well…to some dismay of other posters as well.

      When and if the Leafs move on from Zaitsev Gardiner Marleau and Hainsey and no need for Ozaghainov …they have the money to offer Marner for the future however it may also come at a cost to Kadri to sign Kapanen …but the Leafs bottom 2 center positions will be very poor at that point as they offer NO SECONDARY scoring and are slow players who play D first not much offence!

      PREDS

      Poille is arguably the best GM in the League and has been for some time now …he does not get the recognition he so well deserves.

      When you go down that roster on Cap Geek and look at the quality of players and AAV for each of those players and how he acquired them its no short of BIG BALLS patience and boderline genius in a cap world… nothing fell into this guys lap except Josi and Rinne and even then they drafted so well to give them those guys …this team is truly a really well built team and a model on how it should be done with draft picks, trades and signings….and even at that they still have cap room with that roster !

      WILD

      This is a team that could be in serious trouble after this year …they have an aging core that has serious injuries to at least every top player on that team…the league is getting fast and is built for youth …they have a hard decision to make but they really need to be on the right side of where the league is going right now and make that hard choice to… rebuild… not… retool.

      HABS

      I do not see Poehling be involved in any trade This is the guy that is a non starter for the Habs …and if your talking Fowler its going to be a First Rounder to start that process and go from there …and from what Bergevin has said he is not giving up his future right now …so I don’t see the Habs having the pieces for that deal …if they do bite its gonna cost a 1st in 2020, Suzuki and Metes for Fowler and Ritchie ….MAYBE… that gets the Ducks thinking a bit !

      • Welcome back Kal El

        Marner will stay a Leaf … I’ve little doubt

        No qualms here whatsoever on your posts re:Zaitsev … you’re preaching to the choir here

        GMKD MUST do one or both of : move WW or Marleau after SB is paid

        If not … at least one of Kappy or Johnson or Kadri is gone …. and if only one …. roster still filled out with League Min. Contracts

        Gardner will be gone ; Hainsey gone

        Zaitz unmoveable unless other precious assets given up

        …. so unless one or both of WW and/or Marleau are moved ; then Leafs next year will have a D roster much weaker than this year and definitely weaker 3rd and 4th lines than this year …. so I can’t see a Leaf team anywhere near strong enough for a SC in June of ’20

        WW prime for moving …. he’ll come around and be a good producer again …. I don’t question that …. he’s just, IMO, Leafs best trade asset on Jul 2nd

        After SB paid …. he’s only due $700 K next year (basically League Min )… and only average Sal of $4.94M for 5 years … great for cash poor Cap rich teams

        This should easily bring back a top 4D with extra cap towards either Kappy or Johnsson extensions

        When I say “top 4” I’m not inferring “top 4” League wide … on the Leafs next year …. a player only needs to be better than Zaitsev to be considered top 4…,. Not saying much

        Go Leafs Go

      • Kal have you watched Fowler this year? No way it costs a 1st ,Suzuki and mete that is a huge overpayment

    • Marner can play centre and so can William Nylander. Patrick Marleau has stepped in at centre as well.
      On another topic, Bruce Boudreau must be tearing out what hair he has left. What does Minnesota do now?

    • Hi Ian

      I have little doubt that Marner is a Leaf … only questions really are $’s and term

      It won’t be 4 or 7 years and likely not 5 ( too much for Leafs to have both MM and AM then up again at same time for extension ) …. so 3, 6 , or 8 years

      Regardless of term … he’s got to be a Leaf to start next season and his Sal will be market determined and will leave Leafs fielding a team with at a minimum( 5 new signings at LEAGUE MINIMUM …..

      UNLESS WW and/or Marleau can be moved after SB paid (1/7)

      If anybody can manoeuvre this ; it’s GMKD

      Good luck Kyle

      • Not sure I agree with you, Pengy. Why would Marner accept those parameters in negotiations? His agent will certainly ask for Matthews money and Mathews term. Dubas won’t like it, but offer sheets will be forthcoming should he refuse. He caved somewhat to Nylander and Matthews and I expect him to do the same with Marner. Marner might be a softer touch, owing to his Ontario roots, but I wouldn’t count on it.

      • Hi Strider

        It’s all speculation right now

        If you are referring to my assertion of 3,6, or 8 years; here is my logic:

        1 or 2 is useless for both sides…. completely useless

        If going 7 …, might as well go 8…. advantage both sides

        Leaving 3 – 6

        4 to me is a non-starter for GMKD…. MM can walk for nothing after that… just 8 weeks after his 26th BDay…. GMKD would be laughed out of GM school for a 4 year deal and no matter how much pressure or how much threat of offer sheet (which also won’t be 4 years) or how long he might sit out…. IMO , 4 years won’t fly

        5 is obviously preferential to MM camp …. matches AM’s; only negotiation is on $’s ; and he could move for the same positioning in 5 years…. wait for AM to sign first.

        Obviously for the Leafs; they would not like to have those 2 major contracts expire at the same time (5 years)

        I’m not saying 5 years won’t happen ; just that either 3 or 6 more likely

        6 more expensive for Leafs in AAV …. and IMO would be dang close to $11M per

        3 … MM camp would be betting on him … 3 @ $9M? ?? Hoping then to cash in big at 7 or 8 at $12.5M???

        This of course is all speculation.

        I fully believe a strong push by MM camp to have a 5 year …. with push-back by GMKD.

        I see less advantage to MM of 7 or 8 and too much risk for him at 3 …. career altering/ending injury and tons of money lost that at least he could have got through LTIR/Ins.

        4 a no go

        So 6 (pushed by GMKD) or 5 (my guess at MM camp’s preference) years

        Again …. all complete speculation …, but above is my logic

        Cheers

    • Ian I hope the management see it the way you do, because you are dead on.

    • No1 would/should think your crazy- i’ve been much higher on Marner than Matthews for over a year now.

      Matthews reminds me of peanut-brittle, Marner plays a MUCH bigger game & doesn’t use binoculars to view the corners in playoffs, like Nylander and A.M do…

    • Ian, his name is Mitch MARNER.

  2. Haha, between auto correct and the screwed up screen on my phone it makes me look like a 4th grader.

    • OH crap …stupid weather and the internet here …my apologies once again …:(

  3. PREDS

    Poile is arguably the best GM in the League and has been for some time now …he does not get the recognition he so well deserves.

    When you go down that roster on Cap Geek and look at the quality of players and AAV for each of those players and how he aquired them its no short of BIG BALLS patience and boderline genius in a cap world… nothing fell into this guys lap except Josi and Rinne and even then they drafted so well to give them those guys …this team is truly a really well built team and a model on how it should be done with draft picks, trades and signings….and even at that they still have cap room with that roster !

    Eli Tolvanen is a hot prospect …but he is more valuable to the Preds instead of a throw in for a rental regardless of the situation.
    If he is involved you need a guy with term not a rental player as stated above….IMO …it would be a waste of a top asset….and unlike Poile.

    WILD

    This is a team that could be in serious trouble after this year …they have an aging core that has serious injuries to at least every top player on that team…the league is getting fast and is built for youth …they have a hard decision to make but they really need to be on the right side of where the league is going right now and make that hard choice to… rebuild… not… retool.

    HABS

    I do not see Poehling be involved in any trade This is the guy that is a non starter for the Habs …and if your talking Fowler its going to be a First Rounder to start that process and go from there …and from what Bergevin has said he is not giving up his future right now …so I don’t see the Habs having the pieces for that deal …if they do bite its gonna cost a 1st in 2020, Suzuki and Metes for Fowler and Ritchie ….MAYBE… that gets the Ducks thinking a bit !

  4. I’m pretty sure that Marner is the main guy the Leafs are looking to lock up long term. I see him and the team getting a longer term deal than Matthews. I see Mitch leading the team in the future.

    • Your vision is not good then. A top center will lead a team, not a small playing making winger. Marner is incredible but you do not build teams around a playmaking winger. They have Tavares and Matthews, just like Pitt has Malkin and Crosby. That is the recipe of success. And before you throw OV at me, OV is a SNIPER, Marner is not. Big differance

      • And Matthews is also a sniper ala Ovi…boggles the mind to hear Lyle and others suggesting Marner gets $11 million…thought these guys were around hockey a long time.

        9.5 to 10 max for Marner no matter the length of the contract.

      • Gary marner has outplayed Matthews by a lot this year he will ask the same or close to Matthews

  5. Re: Montreal

    I would be gob-smacked if they were even considering moving Kotkeniemi (sp?)

    Very bright future

    • Pengy and Kal El totally agree, after years of being weak down the middle no way should the Habs trade Kotkaniemi or Poehling .The Canadiens finally have a solid stable of young centers. Kotkaniemi has grown leaps and bounds this year, at 18 yrs old and playing in a tough market he has handled it well. I have to give Bergevin credit , he took a beating from the media and fans the previous couple of years but has made some good trades and savvy drafting to get the Habs back in contention now and in the future. If Suzuki gets moved it is only because the return is good for the team now and 4-5 years down the road.

    • Agreed, Pengy. I can see Poehling or Suzuki at least *theoretically* going as they are still prospects. But Kotkaniemi is continuing to prove he can be an NHL centre… and likely a very good one.

      Everyone’s tradeable, but I can’t really see a way Bergevin trades Kotkaniemi, as he’s currently on his way filling their biggest need (for the past 20 years!)

      • Paddy, Poehling had a coming out party at the WJC this year winning the overall MVP. That showing alone, for me anyways, takes his name off the table.

  6. Muzzin on the team now will bringvquick clarity over the real assessment of Gardiner, Zaitsev and Hainsey.

    Gardiner has a good plus rating in part because the Leafs are in the top five scoring teams in the league and their goals for and against spread is one of the largest…much of that is because of the 4-7 goal games they win. The glaring mistakes Gardiner makes game in and game out (always a step behind or out of position in his own zone, inability to physically deal with opposing forwards, the stretch passes that miss half the time, the extra 2-3 seconds he takes on the power play, etc.). Zaitsev has no willingness to physically get involved, he looks confused half the time, and is a liability defensively and offensively impotent. Hainsey ages every period. He has the willingness to win and work hard but he needs to be on the bottom three no longer in the top four.

    Toronto needs at least one more shut down defenseman, a dependable experienced blue liner, a shutdown defensive specialist at center and a power forward to be serious in the playoff run.

    I would look at Eric Stall and Radko Gudas if the prices are right and then plug some holes quickly.

    As for trading the chamomile drinkers now is the time to do it when Toronto is recognized as a top 10 team ….get rid of Gardiner and/or Nikita, Lindholm and Ennis. Consider packaging Kadri, Brown and Gauthier for more consistent grit so the return will potentially outweigh the cost.

    • everyone knows how many mistakes Gardiner makes. In saying that let’s go easy on Zaitsev. It’s hard to play when you don’t know what you’re d partner is going to do.

    • Frank

      Agree…. but moves of any note will be off-season

      Moves now (this year) will have to be Cap in and Cap out …. left over space right now needed to be kept for performance bonus payments (they can’t afford to have those Perf bonuses count against next year’s cap)

      If miraculously Leafs can move Zaitz it will only be (IMO) done by either /both of (1) cheaper/shorter crap contract coming back AND/OR (2) loss of valuable assets

      • Pengy….We need this one tonight! I was thinking Tanner Pearson and a 5th for Brandon Montour…we are in need of a top 4 defender!

        Maybe add Tyler Ennis 29, $650,000 to add more speed and scoring to bottom six group..

    • Wow Wow wow wow…Frank. You need to apply for Leafs GM position. Talk about breath of fresh air, you are absolutely right in that Gardiner, Zaitsev and Hainsey need to go. I assure you with those three gone Leafs are upgrading just by subtraction. Now if you add Gudas that is dream scenario. We are already witnessing what little grit and toughness at the blueline Jake Muzzin is providing does for the TEAM, now imagine 2 more players like him Gudas/McQuaid will do for the team. I also agree Nylander, Marleau, Brown, Kadri would fetch some value in the market I would then swap their position with more grit and heavy players to balance out the roster. Kapanen and Johnsson is a must resign, I think 3.5m/ for 3 years for each of them. That money must come from Nylander contact. Trade Nylander for either legit wing man likes of Panarin to play with Matthews or go after Gudas and draft picks. Marleau needs to be bought out or sit out as he is just dragging Matthews down every night. I don’t understand why Babcock fails to see that Marleau is nowhere close to skill level of Matthews and he is killing the flow of the line. Kadri is a decent player, but realistically he is no longer viable option for the leafs with cap and upcoming leafs, thus he needs to be traded for gritty role player plus picks. Brown is making too much for a fourth liner. He needs to go as well. Ideal lineup:

      Panarin/Matthews/Kapanen
      Hyman/Tavares/Marner
      Moore/Johnsson/Bracco
      Maroon/Carrier/Reaves

      Rielly/McQuaid
      Muzzin/Gudas
      Dermott/Holl

      Andersson/Hutchinson

      Combined cap hit of $82 mill
      Assuming Marner at $11mil/per and Panarin at 9-10mill per Kappy $3.5 Johnnson $3.5

      Definitely do-able makes team COMPLETE in every aspect. Great mix of Young and Experienced Skill and Grit both upfront and backend. Excellent BALANCE throughout. Go Leafs Go

      • Wow. Every team would blow right by most of those pylons and score 5-6 goals a game! But hey the leafs would be a bit tougher.

      • Yes Chrisms, as a Bruins fan I hope they do that.

      • @Ray and Chrisms: If you’re Bruins fans, nothing better could happen 😀 And you guys should know McQuaid well enough… a first pairing d-man his whole career….and hey, which team wouldn’t want speedy minute eating guys like Maroon and Carrier

      • Juss76 Chrism is a penguins fan. Not that he doesn’t have knowledge of other teams, he does.

      • 🤫 caper. It’s a secret.

  7. Steve-O,

    Marner will get 7-8 yrs for 10.5 per. He’ll get less than Matthews but more than he was offered in the summer but giving him the term will be the selling point.

    • Hi Frank

      I differ from you here re: $’s

      7 or 8 years is certainly a possibility but if so that’s buying UFA years and therefore AAV will be much higher than a 5 year deal

      My uneducated guess is if 5 years …. is at least $50 M ; $52.5 not unfathomable …. so Min $10 M Cap and maybe $10.5M for 5 years

      $10M — )10.5 M next year … ~ 12% of Cap…. 12% of Cap in 6 years will be likely $12.5M – $13M and then more the following year …. so all else equal ….. 7 or 8 years will be >$11 M per

      His camp already publicly pushing for comparable to AM (I’m not siding with them ; just stating) and AM now at $11.6M will be looking for next extension North of $14M

      For these reasons IMHO ; the only way Leafs get Marner next year for s cap hit <$10 M is with a 3 year deal …. and that , IMO …., is the longest of longshots now

      • Pengy all due respect but there is no ‘if’ Toronto gets Marner…he will be a life long Leaf and will sign for something between 9 and 10 million a year.

        Boggles the mind to hear so many thinking he is going to get 11 million a year…so he is that much better than Kucherov…good grief.

      • Hi Gary

        Sorry my inference of doubt about Marner for next year was not whether he’d be on the team… the doubt was $’s

        I stick with my assertion that if it’s for 5 or greater ; the final deal will be $10M AAV or greater

        I’m not comparing MM to AM

        It’s just my belief of what the negotiations will end up

        I’m confident that almost everybody here would agree that MM is worth somewhere between WW and AM

        WW was (rounding) $7M AAV this year (Cap $79.5… so 8.8%)…. with Cap going up …. same percentage means around $7.45M for a 5 year deal starting this fall

        So with a comparison of the scenario where all signing on same team all for 5 years …. I think it would be difficult for anybody to argue that MM would not get a 5 year contract between the two in AAV …. $7.45M – $11.63M

        Half way between is $9.54M

        His comparative value is subjective

        My argument is that MM is closer in value to AM than he is to WW (putting aside WW’s under-performing season this year…. I had that belief at the end of last year)

        …. so same market (team) for same term ; and with my belief that MM closer to AM in value than to WW (so North of half-way $9.54M) … I contend $10 M is FMV and with tight negotiations AND potential (not saying certainty only potential) of Offer sheet.. a 5 year deal might come in around $52M

        Re: Kucherov

        I don’t think people are saying MM is worth $1.5M more AAV in League Sal… I’m not

        Kucherov took much less than he could have got on other teams … part of that was to help the team (that’s a personal call) but we can’t ignore the massive tax advantages he has with playing in Tampa …. Kucherov will actually take home over $4 M more than AM will in the next 5 years… unfortunately it’s just a fact… fair or not, it’s what it is

        I’m not going to argue whether or not AM left money on the table or if so … how much…. it’s irrelevant. He got what he got … to me… a fair deal

        MM should not take a great deal less than FMV just because he grew up here and there is not much money left… he deserves FMV… And based on my subjective logic above …. $50 M or very very close, for 5 years , is fair

        That,s just me and my logic.

        I see others who have logical arguments for $9 – $9.5 and I respect that, but respectfully disagree.

        I’ve fair confidence that during negotiations; MM’s agent is making his arguments for FMV in $11M range. Logical and prudent arguments. I just respectively disagree with them.

        If Leafs are set on $9.5M range …. IMO it will have to be a bridge deal

        GMKD … get MM signed; pay the Marleau and WW SBs, move them…. then your fun can start…. do that… Leafs on very good track for at least one cup between ‘20-‘25

  8. Was this posted before Melnyk kicked his few remaining fans in the nutz last night?

    What a buffoon. If he’s actually being truthful if there was even a shred of hope of signing the 3 UFA’s it’s gone now.

    Jeeze man…..

  9. Boston needs a second line winger and third line center. Hmmm for me they need a season ending injury to Chara or they’re going bye-bye in 4 games, if they get it.
    Chara has been absolutely BRUTAL over, he is very fortunate that his several turnovers, bad decision haven’t ended up in the back of then next.
    Cassidy said he needs to rest Chara down the stretch to have him fresh for the playoffs, the real reason is so he doesn’t cost them games down the stretch.
    No I don’t really wish Chara an injury but hoping Cassidy us willing to sit the big man because Chara is a liability not an asset.

    Who are the sellers? Boston was linked to the Blues (Bruins already have the Blues with Chara on defense) but now are only 1pt behind the Canucks with 3 games in hand, they are no longer sellers. In the west every team is within 6pts of a wildcard spot.

    Here Boston being linked to Ilya Kovalchuk apparently he is willing to remove is ntc for the right team. Two more years on that contract, LA would have to eat some money and the return wouldn’t be much a prospect or 2nd round pick? Personally wouldn’t mind except its two more years and not one.

    I think the price for Duchene or Stone is going to be to high, is there a hockey trade to be had?

    Matthews to Arizona is dead for the next 4yrs then it will be full on daily. Just one question does anybody see present day Arizona handing out a $12m per contract to anyone player?

    Marner will be an interesting watch I remember last playoffs he was the one player the Bruins couldn’t stop talking about, he controls the game when he is on the ice. He won’t be cheap, so Toronto will have over $30m tied up in 3 forwards, starting to think Kadri and his $4.5m contract for a third line center may be a luxury the leafs can longer afford. Offseason will be an interesting time for the leafs.

    Just for fun PK Subban 36gp 4g 14a 18pts +9
    Shea Weber 30gp 8g 10a 18pts +13

    Yes still today Weber is the better player and Montreal paid him $3m less in actual salary this year, also better value.

    Anybody want Chara Anybody Hellooo

    • Caper with you re PK/Weber debate (BTW …. it’s actually $4M less this year … PK gets $10 M this year and Weber gets $6M)

      Re Chara

      Yes he has slid dramatically . Time is catching up quickly on him.

      I’m a big fan of his and he has certainly been a workhorse over the years

      Perhaps a short rest re-juvenates him???

      I think if Sweeney makes only one major move … it will be a forward instead of a D move

      Again …. I throw out to all …. Bieksa still out there ..,, costs no assets

      I’d love him on Pens (Leafs can’t because they need space to cover perf. Bonuses)

      Someone has to call his agent

      • Pengy, I have always liked Bieksa’s game but is he playing anywhere? I saw him at Spengler cup but if he is not playing games he will not have much time to get in game shape.

      • Hi Fergy

        Part of his plan to go to Spengler was to showcase himself… he trained hard before that and it is my understanding he is still working out…, so game shape weak but physical shape should be alright

    • Chara hasn’t played well in a long while he’s a Dman who can’t move and only uses his stick check now….I see what the numbers say about this team D but watching every night as a whole they aren’t as good as the numbers show….Chara is what he us now, Miller is a # 6 Dman at best the two small Dmen are just that small and they take bearings in the corners Krug hasn’t finished a playoff series last two years Carlo is still learning and McAvoy just might be overrated ….go get a Dman and a second line goal scorer

    • I’d never trade Z. Ever.
      He can take a rest or two between now and spring, but he’s still too valuable with regards to the development of Charlie, Carlo, and the rest of the kids coming up.
      Butch just needs to roll back his minutes a bit and rest him more.
      Going forward (next year)he should be placed on the bottom pairing and used to mentor and help develop rooks.
      Z is a shadow of his former self. Which was the best defensive player in the world for a very long time.
      His skating and timing are falling victim to his age, and wear and tear over the years has almost fully caught up to him……..but,
      I’d keep signing him to 1 year deals as long as he can contribute to the team.
      Only, because I believe he’s capable of excelling in a role like that.

      • I think he’s done and should retire. The cap hit needs to go to other players or RFA Mcavoy and Carlo. Unless it’s the league minimum he’s not worth the 5 million he’s making this season.
        Coyle sounds good in Boston.

      • shoreorrpark, agree with you on this debate. When Z retires you may need to consider changing your handle to shoreorrparkchara.
        Z has lost a step, maybe 2. Does he get beat more on the rush than he used to? Yes. Can he keep his cap control as tight as he used to because of that? Nope. Does it happen so often that it outweighs his dominance in D zone coverage and on the PK? Not yet IMO. Can he break up a cycle as good as anybody in the league? Yep.
        He is what he is at this stage. A smart, physically imposing, d zone monster, who is struggling against the rush against an ever faster NHL. Who is also the leader of that team.
        He needs to be used correctly and have his minutes at a reasonable #. Days off down the stretch now that they are healthy, and give Carlo, McAvoy and Miller more tough minutes until the playoffs. And even into the playoffs.
        I actually like how Miller plays. Plays a tough game. If he is a 6 he is one of the better ones. Played #4 minutes last year in playoffs due to injury and did OK IMO.
        When Z retires I can see him taking on a role within the Bruins in player development, and if he chooses to stay in the game taking on more roles and being groomed for more responsibility. Class act and an asset to any organization.

      • @Ray Bark “A smart, physically imposing, d zone monster, who is struggling against the rush against an ever faster NHL. Who is also the leader of that team.”
        Ray you’re watching to many old film. Chara has not been a physical beast since the hit on Max Pacioretty, I think that hit took more out of Chara game then anything else.
        Chara can longer menton on ice, as is right now when paired with Carlo, it’s Carlo skating hard to Chara corner to retrieve pucks. I’m afraid Chara best days are well behind him, he no longer has the foot speed nor can he react or process the situation before the player has already caught him. When is the last time you seen Chara throw a solid don’t come in my f-ing corner hit? Thanks for your service you been paid well and you earned it, we now welcome you to our coaching team.

      • Hey Caper, no doubt not the player he was. And yes the lack of speed is more noticeable this year. Can’t argue that, it is right in front of us. He never really did drill guys that often, as every time he did he was in danger of taking a penalty or hurting the guy. His shoulder is right at most players heads. He was and is still really strong. 37 pull ups in camp last year. That is a lot of long pull ups. Will still drop them when required too, and win.
        I say physically imposing because I think he does control his corner of the ice to great effect. How often do you ever see a player come out of a corner battle with Chara with possession of the puck? He smothers and controls them with strength, reach and sheer size so almost never. Ever see them come of the half board and get to the net? How often does he get his stick on theirs and the shot deflect over the glass? How many back door tap ins because seam passes get through when he is on the PK?
        He is really good at all those things which brings value and are key in d zone defense, especially when you are consistently in the correct position. And his numbers are still decent against the toughest competition, though not dominating overall, despite having 1st and 2nd year D-men along side him the last 2 years and much of this year. Still plays a lot with McAvoy this year, who us still learning, but as a shut down with Carlo when needed.
        The coach sure seems to trust him when it matters, so I guess he sees some value there too.
        It might be time at the end of the year, and likely will hang them up, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he came back next year.

    • Caper, a bigger question is this: Austen Matthews will be around in four years but will the Arizona Coyotes?

    • Caper I wouldn’t bet against Chara the guy has proven year in and year out when the game is on the line Cassidy has him on the ice. Watched him the other night stay on the ice the whole 2 min Killing a penalty and he was awesome kept the net clear and broke up many plays with that reach. Bruins have bigger problems than worrying about the big Z he will be fine and with Bergeron Boston has the best two leaders in the game.

  10. PKane not a bad smallish impact winger. I see Marner in that class soon if not already
    Coyle will be staying and playing the big minutes that Koivu is leaving. That with the Dumba loss is going to be tough. They should be sellers

  11. Cam Fowler has a MOD-NTC in which he can summit 4 teams he can be traded to. Need to stop this 4 team no trade clause because that’s not correct.He signed long term with Anaheim because he wants to be in Southern California with his girlfriend. Can’t imagine he’d waive to go to Montreal.

    • Fixed, thanks for pointing that out, I misread it when I originally posted it. Cheers!

    • He definitely did. It’s not an opinion. It’s objective fact. Percent of cap plus legit chance of offer sheet… he left money on the table.

      • Yes you’re correct but …Facts!.. What does that have to do with the leafs? Lol

    • Auston (agents?) had pretty much every right to ask for 16.67% of the cap for 8 years. Which would be 13.8mil.? Before or there about at the end of 5 years he can sign a 8 year deal. With the cap going up to probably 95mil or more? in year 3 of his deal…wait for the next round of super stars contracts in two to three years! People might forget that in two years..gambling revenues and an expansion team (Seattle) coming up! With Zats Hainsey Brown Ozzy Ennis and Gards gone.. and one more year of Marleau..they’ll be fine! And on a side note..In the next couple of years..Arizona will be in Houston

  12. Gudas / Simmonds for Zaitsev / Kadri. Works for both teams. TO finally get rid of Zaitsev and his contract, while Flyers get a real decent center in Kadri with excellent controllable cap hit. Leafs benefit with Gudas and Simmonds for this year’s playoff push.

    Make this happen Dubas.
    Go leafs Go

    • Ya the philly players would be great!..but kadri is going nowhere! Could possibly see Brown and a 2nd and prospect?for Gudas maybe? Or Simmons?..but not both! You’d be adding kappy then to that deal .but they would be great
      adds!..IMHO

      • Could Simmonds get both Fialia & Smith from NSH as a return? If so…does that make the most sense to get 2 assets for 1. Smith can play 3rd line . Faila can play 1st line or 2nd

        Fiala/Couturier/Voracek
        Giroux/Patrick/Konecny
        Lindblom/Laughton/Smith

      • oops forgot JVR so Smith centers 3rd line with JVR and Lindblom . Lots of options there.

      • Those lines aren’t even close to what they’re deploying in Philly.
        IF Simmonds gets moved, it’ll be for picks and prospects.
        I don’t think they’re looking to move him personally.

    • Mike, sure you’re not Brian Burke in disguise?

  13. If I was Ottawa I would trade stone and Duchene. If possible I would trade one of them to Edmonton. I would ask for puljajarvi. Edm 1st rd pick in 2019 and would take Lucic Back to make the $$ back. Ottawa could afford lucic until they are ready to compete.

    • That would be a great trade for Dorian to make. They still need to hit the cap floor and Lucic can help with that.
      Oil need Stone more than Dutchy though.

  14. Marner’s contract will be 8×11.