In a blockbuster deal, the Winnipeg Jets have traded winger Evander Kane and defenseman Zach Bogosian to the Buffalo Sabres in exchange for defenseman Tyler Myers, winger Drew Stafford, prospects Joel Armia and Brendan Lemieux and a first-round pick.
Evander Kane and Tyler Myers (right) involved in multi-player swap between the Jets and Sabres.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Wow! It’s rare to see such a major move made during the season in today’s salary-cap world, let alone so close to the March trade deadline. But this is a deal made under extraordinary circumstances. The Jets are battling for playoff contention and were keen to move Kane, who is sidelined by season-ending shoulder surgery following a recent rumored blow-up with his teammates. They wanted it done as soon as possible for a return which helps them now and in the future. The Sabres are out of playoff contention and undergoing a major roster overhaul. They were keen to bolster their offense. Looking at this deal, it appears one of those rare deals which helps both teams in the short- and long-term.
The Jets land a big defenseman in Myers, who some observers still believe could blossom into a potential Norris contender. He’s also signed through 2018-19, becoming part of the Jets long-term plans. Stafford is a former 30-goal scorer who can fill in for the now-departed Kane in the short term. He’s a UFA this summer so his future in Winnipeg could depend upon his performance over the rest of this season. Armia and Lemieux are of course the pieces to help the Jets long term. The first-round pick they receive will either be the Blues or Islanders pick, whichever is lowest in the first round.
Kane won’t help the Sabres this season but should be a key piece for their future. He’s signed through 2016-17 and reportedly is looking forward to a change by moving to Buffalo. If the Sabres land Connor McDavid or Jack Eichel in this year’s draft, Kane could form part of a lethal one-two offensive punch with either player for the Sabres. Bogosian is a good young defenseman who, like Myers, has struggled through injuries and consistency early in his career. He’s a solid top-four defenseman with top-two potential.
Time will tell which club ultimately “wins” this deal.In the short-term, both clubs win.
Gee, and just yesterday Spec said “forget about Myers, he’s not going anywhere at the deadline”. What a joke. Seems this happens at least once a season when he rants up and down about how there is no chance of a certain player being moved, and then what do you know the player ends up being moved. You would think Spector would have learned his lesson by now and would stop being so arrogant.
Arrogant? Moi?? LOL! Hey, I was surprised they moved Myers as everything Tim Murray said this season was that he wasn’t shopping Myers. I honestly didn’t see him being moved at the deadline but rather in the summer. This one obviously happened quickly. I was wrong on this one, but no big deal, as I tend to be right more often than wrong. Oh dear, there’s my arrogance again! 😉 You have a nice day. Hope the trade works out for your club.
Thanks for your support, Bruce, I really appreciate it. 🙂
Ignore the haters Lyle 🙂 You run a great site, I come hear often and appreciate the insight and the majority of the dialogue. Clearly some commenters have never experienced stating a strong opinion from a position of knowledge and having something happen they didn’t forsee. I suspect it’s mostly because they’ve never been in a position of knowledge or have never had anyone actually pay attention to what they are saying.
If these critics really paid attention, Lyle, they would recognize you as a level-headed, knowledgeable and intelligent hockey analyst. They would also cut you some slack because nobody is perfect — except armchair snipers who love picking holes in other people. Keep up the good work, Spector. With any luck, these idiotic haters will deprive themselves of first-class hockey insight and not darken your site’s door again.
You’re the man Spec. Don’t let the haters stop you from doing what you do. Best trade rumor site out there. Haters can just STFU and go to hockeybuzz and Eklund.
according to TSN the Jets will receive the lowest of Buffalo’s 1 rd picks this which means no mcdavid or eichel for them!!
Lowest of value not actual number.
You honestly thought it was going to be the Sabres original pick? It would take the Jets whole roster to get that pick.
What are you looking for with this comment? A high five? How bout you beat it buddy or just keep your fingers from typing anymore garbage … ya meat head!
I’m assuming that wasn’t aimed at me, Dino? Because if it is, where will you go for your rumor fix? 😉
Nope not aimed at you at all, just thought I’d troll him back.
LOL, thought as much. It’s all good. Cheers!
Don’t blame Spector. Trades like these are rare and unusual. It was a unique situation with Buffalo not gaining anything right now. They really are resigned to the McDavid sweepstakes. Winnipeg improves in the short term with their playoff run. Buffalo may improve long term, and are not concerned with this year in their tank bid.
Great pick up for your team Jetsfan. But stop being redonkulous. How many times do I have to say this. NONE OF US HAVE THE RIGHT ANSWER. WE JUST — USE THE INFORMATION WE HAVE AT HAND AND OUR OBSERVED PAST EXPERIENCES TO COME UP WITH A POSSIBLE OUTCOME. Nice caps, I know they mean yelling but think of it as a stern voice. Not sure why people have to belittle others who disagree with them or get future happenings wrong. Do you think any of us can actually see the future. I myself was pretty sure if the deal got done before the summer it would be Buffalo that pulled it off having 3 1rst and lots of prospects. I would not be surprised if Lyle and others had the same thought. However I was sure Chevy would sit on this forever. Once again Chevy got what he was asking for. I am starting to think he is an underated GM.
Lyle’s stance was understandable. My stance was to. You free to argue against it and place your position on the board. Time reveals the truth, you don’t need to yank out the pitch forks and torches.
jetsfan – I’m sure nobody, including Lyle saw this one coming!
As a Sabres fan, I saw Myers staying put or going to the Ducks or Wings. In my opinion, you got a free Drew Stafford out of the deal. Stafford will only excel with your team. Kind of like Clarke MacArthur did when he left Buffalo then wound up on a good Leafs team back in the day. Solid veteran who’ll even drop the gloves (not much but he has the back of younger guys)… I bet he’ll put up 20-25 points with you guys the rest of the season.
This trade is exactly that BLOCKBUSTER.. You don’t see these coming!!
Perhaps you should find a better team to cheer for? Maybe you won’t be so frustrated. Just a helpful hint.
Just my curiosity Lyle, who do you cheer for when you are home and simply being a fan of the game, nothing else.
please don’t say Toronto…not Toronto. Haha
He’s a dirty habs fan, but we try not to hold that against him 😉
The comment by GM TM was that Lemieux refused the teams attempts to sign him. The reporter commented that he would not play for us after not making the team out of training camp.
This is the player I was really surprised that was included, but the jr player the Jets demanded. So, I can see why he was moved today.
Wow, I love the fact that Bob was GM of the year last year but is a “Pussy to not pull of a blockbuster” What the hell are you talking about. I guess you didn’t notices the move to get Kesler. Dumbass people. Murray didn’t want to give up Fowler to get Myers. What would you have done? You aren’t just going to give him Lovejoy and a first to get Myers. Get your head out of your ass. Its fans like you that makes Ducks fans sound like we don’t know anything. You’re a Loser.
Unfair…Spector great site for the nhl fan. Gretzky was traded once..
I’d like to jump on the “jetsfan is a super lame” bandwagon. Also, awesome trade for both, hopefully this will trigger some more action. Really hoping for playoff success for Jets
Is it Spec’s fault, or yours for actually believing his “rumors” ? I come on here for entertainment purposes, not insight.
That’s cool,ed. Regardless of why you visit this site, I appreciate the support. Cheers!
I come here Lyle knowing any rumour out there may never come true and listen to you assessment knowing that more time than not you are likely right but any giving moment, like life, anything can happen.
That being said you set a platform up for discussion between hockey fans, my hope, between educated hockey fans, it’s the reason I get defensive when name calling comes out and persons are degraded. It dissapoints me.
I will never argue an absolute knowing Anytime I could be wrong. I have never seen you do that either, simply you state an opinion of the probability of something happening. Which comes from sound reasoning from what I can tell. How your readers can’t grasp that is beyond me. However it’s nice they continue to prove you support by showing up.
Thanks Lyle.
Bruce, baby! So nice to see you showing up without screeching mindlessly about “anti-Duck bias!” “Nothing more than any other NHL writer”, eh? Thanks for the compliment! “A site you used to rely on”? Then why do you keep coming here, Bruce? You keep vowing you’ve had it with this site, that this is the last time you’ll come here, and yet, like a gopher, you keep popping up. Whatever, dude, I appreciate your continued support and look forward to more of your missive about how much you hate this site and how you’ll never, ever return…until the next time. 😉
Of course I have a blog, Bruce. That’s what you’re visiting daily and writing comments on. What you think of me or this blog is irrelevant. Your continued support is what matters, and I really appreciate the additional traffic you’re bringing here. Cheers! 🙂
Who could love a team called the Ducks???? Seriously!
Lyle, read you every day. The educated guessing business is a tough one, almost win less but awareness is gained over time and you are a contributor.
Cheers!!
If you have read Spector long enough, then you should know exactly who he roots for. But that’s not why I’m replying…I’m replying to the fact you seem to be upset he was mistaken about a RUMOR. He didn’t claim to be standing in the office next to Brian Williams while they both listened to various GM’s haggle over trade values. He commented with an opinion that he didn’t believe a trade would happen.
It was just that. An opinion on the odds of something happening. If you come here expecting that you will see 100% accuracy on what rumors may be out there, then you are obviously coming here for the wrong reasons.
Lyle great site and thank you for what you put into it. Although…I’m extremely saddened that the Flyers lost to the HABS….
I don’t usually comment. I really enjoy this site, as I now live in the Philippines and I get my daily hockey fix here.
Having said that, I hate to see the comments on this site degenerate into the same poor taste exhibited by the hate-mongering people who comment on political and social topics. Of that Bruce you are guilty. Geez guy, lighten up! It’s hockey. Lyle, as he said himself, is right more than he’s wrong, and it’s his informed speculation and foresight on what might happen in the league that most of us come here for, and at that, he’s the best.
No one minds someone disagreeing. It’s the capacity to disagree in a tasteful way that separates the men from the trolls.
All of a sudden, you’re gonna come out of the wood work and call out Spector for being wrong about a trade? As if you were certain that this was going to happen. Unreal. Go troll somewhere else.
good job Chevy!! as a Jets fan i like this deal. It can be broken down many ways but i look at it like this
Bogosian for Myers
and
Kane for Stafford, Lemieux, Armia and a 1st looks good to me as Myers will be better longterm than Bogosian imo and grabbing 2 prospects makes up for only getting a third liner in Stafford rather than a 2nd liner for Kane
As a Buffalo fan, in your honest opinion is Bogosian equal to Myers?
I agree with your breakdown, but I see Buffalo giving up one prospect too many in this deal. I see it more like – Kane for Myers and prospect.
I think a 1st round pick, prospect, AND STAFFORD is a a lot for Bogosian. A 1st round and prospect should have been enough…
So now with Stafford and Armia gone and with the style of player we have with Kane – does Buffalo keep Stewart? I have yet to hear that Stewart wants out of Buffalo. Other than being a FA, should we deal him? We have a huge salary dump with Myers and Stafford gone to sign him now!
Lemieux will be a player that will play 100 percent every game really surprised buffalo put him in this deal
I don’t see Stewart coming back to Buffalo, so I would assume they are making every effort to try and trade him but get something of a good return back. He will likely be a deadline day deal where a couple GM’s panic and out bid each other on him.
Stewart is a goner for sure BUT I think after the season is over GMTM may sign him like he did Matt Moulson. Stewart is the type of player Murray continues to talk about acquiring and that is one that plays heavy. Stewart has been the Sabres best player the last 3 weeks and would be happy if that scenario played out.
As for most being surprised that Lemieux was included 1) Murray said Winnipeg said Lemieux had to be included and 2) Murray said they had tried signing Lemieux but couldn’t come to an agreement.
The Jets are getting 3 good prospects but again none have proven a thing when it comes to playing an 82 game NHL schedule so as to who won and who lost the trade is 2-3 yrs down the road. Hopefully it’s a win-win for both sides.
I heard Brendan’s dad was telling him not to sign with Buffalo. Claude is also his agent.
Stafford is a 2nd liner at worst bud. Study up on your hockey
great trade for Winnipeg and chevy! they clearly won this deal myers playing with the jets d will improve his overall game
Plus they can still move another Dman for more help out front, as of now they robbed the Sabers.
I don’t like the deal, but remember what Sam Pollack used to say. the team that gets the best player in a deal wins the trade. Kane best player in the deal. Kinda reminders me of what Buffalo gave up the get Pat LaFontaine.
If this reminds you of the Lafontaine deal, I have a nice padded room I can rent out to you. Kane is mega-overrated….just look at his production. This is a huge, unwarranted risk by the Sabres. You give up that much, you better be getting back more than Kane and Bogosian. Two guys Winnipeg was begging to get rid of.
Chris – learn to read – what I said was it reminded me of what the Sabres gave up to get LaFontaine. No mention of comparing Patty and Kane. Learn to read.
Chris people were saying the exact same thing about Seguin before he was traded. He was doing basically same thing. On a line with McDavid or Eichel with that type of talent he can easily be a 60-80 point player.
Actually, I think this will be the second coming of Evander Kane. He’ll be back with a vengeance. In my opinion, Tyler Myers is over-rated. Time will tell, how much he’s an improvement over Zach Bogosian, if at all. Where the Jets have gained is in prospects and another First Round draft pick. However, Buffalo’s just gotten themselves a 30+ goal man.
30 goal guy? Really? He has hit that mark one time. Not sure that makes him a 30 goal guy.
this should also make Buffalo worse for the rest of the uear too.
i am still calling that phoenix wins the lottery tho.
The Oilers can’t be happy about this trade. Buffalo is blatantly tanking for this year, to get Kane for next year! That’s what the trade amounts to!
What have the Oilers been doing the last what 6-7 years? Tanking like nothing.
lol I’m calling the 9th place team who ever that is as the winner. Actually I more praying to the hockey Gods for that to happen to encourage teams not to tank.
I think Arizona is for sure winning the draft lottery. The watchful eye of Bettman is determined to make hockey succeed in the desert.
Pegula has also invested tonnes in the NHL and the minors. He’s made Buffalo a good hockey city. so I wouldn’t say Arizona wins the lottery. They’ll win next season’s. They’ll land local prodigy Auston Matthews
Wow I bet Bogosian isn’t very happy about this.
Bogosian was born and raised in Buffalo, I’m sure he’s PUMPED!
Not in Buffalo. In Massena, NY. About 6 hours away. May seem like home compared to ‘peg though.
I was more referring to going from a team who looks like they are going to make the playoffs, to a team in total rebuild mode that looks like they are years from doing that. Not to mention being traded alongside Kane, who it seems has raised the ire of his fellow skaters in Winnipeg. Yeah it’s cool to go home, but I thought the goal of most of these guys is to make it to the post season and try to win a cup. Maybe I’m wrong..
Very nice trade for the Jets. I was hoping Jim Nill (Dallas) would be making a possible trade for Myers. Good luck Jets, looks like the whiteout will be back with a vengeance this coming playoffs!
I like the trade, I cant stand Kane’s primadonna attitude, Stafford and Myers both go to a team most likely headed for the playoffs, the icing on the cake
is a first rounder in a good draft year. Both players will have more of an impact on the Jets, then Kane or Bogosian will for the Sabers. Way to go Jets!
Kane and Bogosian won’t show there real worth until the rebuild is over.
HOLD ON…
Buffalo also got:
goalie prospect Jason Kasdorf
lol
don’t follow either of these two teams too closely but my gut says the sabres win.
myers is quality and all but i’ve always felt both kane and bogosian will continue to improve as they mature. i do like lemieux for the jets though.
And the stakes for Franson just went up. Sooo many teams wanted Myers, not it is either Franson or Sekera.
I hope the stakes just went up for Franson. The big question is are the Leafs able to capitalize on the possible increase in stakes?
@LeafsAdvocate
Franson unsigned apples n oranges. Dream on lol
you just dont get the Value of Franson you think a team wanting to make a run will not pay for Franson. well news flash teams are looking at Franson like the golden stick right now and the teams will pay alot more for him then what they paid for Myers
So you are saying that a team will pay MORE for Franson (a pending UFA this coming summer), than what the Jets “paid” to acquire Myers (affordably signed for 3 more years and still, a younger, bigger, better all around player). THIS is what you are saying? There is indeed value in Franson, big guy, right handed shot, affordable contract (for the rest of this season and then PAYDAY!). I “LOVE” how idiots like this come on this board all pumped full of P+V and taking shots at people’s opinions, just to express their ill-conceived notions. If you wanna take a shot at someone’s opinion… GOF OR IT! Just you know, maybe, EXPLAIN yourself??? WHY would a team pay more for Franson than what was “paid” to get Myers? And keep in mind, WPG UNLOADED Kane in the deal. A HUGE head-case. WPG wins this deal hands down on SO many levels, and I am a big fan of of both Kane and Bogo!!! In MY opinion, the Leafs will be fortunate to get HALF of what BUF got for Myers, a mid-late 1st and a 50/50 prospect MAYBE! If they are SUPER lucky!
Lol the stakes have not gone up. You guys will get no more then a 2nd rounder and a midlevel prospect. Huge difference between the two defenseman. Franson is also a UFA to be so ya don’t blow your load just yet.
this trade made a wednesday more interesting.
Gotta say, good move by the Jets. Cue the Western Conference arms race. Anaheim Ducks gotta be muttering profanities to themselves. If the Jets can flip a prospect and a draft pick to someone for another goal scorer, they could very well be a team that could go deep.
In earlier threads regarding Kane I responded to one that suggested I never said he was as injury prone as Lupul by saying “All I asked was, why would Winnipeg take on one to replace another when they can likely get a player and a prospect/pick with no perceivable injury history?” And in another in response to someone suggesting that his being a head-case would prevent his relocation elsewhere I said “If a 36 year-old wing-nut like Matt Cooke can wangle a 2-year $2.5 mil deal from Minnesota, then a 23-year-old winger who IS capable of putting up 30 goals and over 50 pts won’t have trouble securing a deal somewhere. Even at $5 mil plus.”
I wasn’t surprised they were able to deal him even knowing he won’t play again this year. With that skill-set and his young age I think Murray did a great job by only relinquishing a F (Stafford) and a D (Myers) who have both struggled in recent seasons and a low end 1st round pick. The “prospects” involved are more like “suspects” at this stage.
suspects. Craig Button states in TSN.com that Lemieux is a lock to be a 2nd line forward. Doesn’t sound suspect to me.
And Button has never been wrong? Right.
So your arguing everything out side the NHL is suspect? Because everyone on this planet can be wron about any player outside the leagues potential?
Generally when a hockey Knowledgable person who routinely evaluates up an coming prospects and spent a life time around hockey states a player is a lock for the second line. That said Player will be a NHL player if not as good as a second liner, a player. Hardly suspect.
So your arguing everything out side the NHL is suspect? Because everyone on this planet can be wron about any player outside the leagues potential?
Generally when a hockey Knowledgable person who routinely evaluates up an coming prospects and spent a life time around hockey states a player is a lock for the second line. That said Player will be a NHL player if not as good as a second liner, a player. Hardly suspect.
Word is Lemieux was refusing to sign…one reporter indicated he was refusing to sign for any amount.
So, bye bye
I’m not saying Lemieux won’t be good and I wasn’t happy he was included in the trade but I think he can be a replica of Kane. If it is true that he didn’t sign with the Sabres because he was sent back to jrs then that is a sign of trouble right there. He has some growing up to do as a person as he has had suspension issues in jr so maturity could be an issue as it was with Kane. JMO
George….nothing suspect about armia and Lemieux I cant believe the sabres gave up Lemieux!! he will be a solid nhler for years
And you confidently base that solely on his performance with Barrie in the OHL? As for Armia, he’s 21 y/o, has played 87 AHL games and has 17 goals and 35 assists. In that span he’s been brought up once by an NHL team that, on many nights, resemble an AHL team themselves. And on that basis he’s going to be “a solid nhler for years” ?? You are easily impressed.
and you are easily unimpressed George! how do you know they wont be good?
I don’t, of course, any more than you and Jeff KNOW beyond doubt that they WILL be – simply because Button said so. The hockey graveyards are chock-a-block full of 1st and 2nd round picks who are languishing in the minors or the KHL – some of them having been tagged with “can’t miss.”
to me the trade is a wash for the nhl players involved all former 1st rounders
jets get the help they need now and 2 prosepect and a draft choice
buffalo get kane with the right centerman could be a 30-40 goal scorer and bogasian they get a good 2 way defenseman
if lemeiux or aramtia pan out jets win the trade
ps remember when seguin was traded because of his off ice problems ie. kane if kane turns out like seguin …..wow
do you think boston would make that trade again if they knew what they know now
I think not
Except Seguin was part of one of the league’s best lines with Marchand and Bergeron. Kane was part of Winnipeg’s third line.
… and constantly played out of position by Julien – when h e wasn’t sitting in the press box.
so in theory then when seguin left and smith took over his spot they should of been as good or better I think not ….
kane was third line due to his injury I believe the past couple years he was top 6 forward
just saying
Kane averaged over 19 minutes a game – no 3rd liners get that much time so drop the 3rd line crap. He also saw plenty of PP action and still had a meager 22 pts in 37 games. Seguin had 25 goals or more three time in his first 6 years while Kane had more than 20 goals only once in his first 5 years. The only thing Kane has in common with Seguin is that they’re both douches.
Kane will never put up the numbers that Seguin will. Also I do think Boston makes that move again. They have shown in the past that they are not willing to tolerate players that can potentially become distractions to the team. Joe Thornton has put up big numbers since being traded from the Bruins but what has he won? What will Seguin win?
sequin could win the rocket Richard award for goal scoring and hes already got a Stanley cup ring
what will smith or Erickson win other then being ufa’s signings
just saying
Big Buf+Myers at the end of a game…
jetsfan (and anyone else inclined to be hypercritical of Spector): I’ve been following Lyle (aka Spector) for close to 20 years. (I’m not positive about the precise amount of time.) He has what I believe to be the best overall hockey site on the web.
Not only does he provide us with rumors and the sources thereof, but also he comments on the viability of a proposed trade and if he says a trade is unlikely to happen, he provides solid reasoning why it is unlikely to happen.
He also provides us ample opportunity to voice our opinions through vehicles such as the Soapbox. It’s extremely difficult to be in the “Rumor”Business”. Just because a rumor does not come to fruition, it doesn’t necessarily mean that some very serious talks hadn’t transpired. Most trade talks do NOT result in trades.
So, kudos to you Lyle for providing us with such an informative and enjoyable sight.
As for the trade itself, I find it fascinating. Both Kane and Myers are young players who had phenomenal success at the inception of their respective careers. Each of them has tailed off significantly since then. Both are young enough to rebound into stardom in a new environment. While it seems highly unlikely, one or both of them could be the next Daigle.
Kane is more problematic because an inability to get along with one’s teammates is never a good sign. That said, his upside potential is higher.
I was really hoping the Ducks could la d Myers, although not at the exorbitant cost that was being bantered around the rumor mill.
Time will tell, but this really was a blockbuster deal.
To everyone who voiced their support of me and this site today, I thank you. It really is appreciated. You guys are why I do this, and I’m grateful to you all for giving me the opportunity to do this for a living. Cheers to you!
To those of you who come on here to taunt me when I’m occasionally wrong about a rumor – damn my arrogance! 😉 – I appreciate your support too. You equal traffic, which equals more revenue, so thanks very much for adding to the discussion and my traffic numbers. Haters rock! 😉
Lyle – “illegitimi non carborundum.”
Ah, the motto for my next tattoo. 😉
Good one here
http://www.tattoosemangart.com/uncategorized/illegitimi-non-carborundum-tattoo/
I’m A Bruins fan so I’m neutral.
Buffalo got hosed here. No reason to acquire Kane. They could have kept all these players and the pick and signed any other right wing on the free agent market for less.
Kane wasn’t putting up much this season and wasn’t worth his salary. I’m Sure Buffalo could have signed someone this offseason for the same salary and a equal player without the headaches.
@Dave
Unbiased my butt.
What FA u refer to anyways?
Clearly he hasn’t taken a gander at next summer’s UFA list which contains very little and what “prominent” names there are on the list and who aren’t approaching Old Age pensions (Vermette, Boychuk, williams, Zuccarello, Green) will in all likelihood be long gone as signees by either their current teams or whoever they may be dealt to in the interim. And none among the forwards come even close to the poettnial of Kane.
Ufas are a little thin but a team with some cap room may be able to bolster a line up with guys that are currently signed to better deals than the ufas will be getting, Hawks will be trimming so will the Bruins I imagine and some others.
Dear Sabres,
You traded Myers for the wrong Kane.
Disrespectfully,
716
The only problem I have with this deal is the timing. It’s ruined trade deadline day on TSN. The boys on the panel will sit around and stare at each other while 3rd liners get moved for AHL’ers and nothing happens for 12 hours.
Don’t worry the Jets will flip Meyers to Tampa for Drouin to replce Kane on the left side and possibly reunite Drouin with Ehlers in the future. Also solves the Jets extra d-man issue.
I don’t think Tampa will be moving any of their young talented players any time soon. Kucherov, Johnson, Drouin, Palat etc. This would also put Tampa in some serious cap trouble Once Carle, Gudas return. They are also still on the hook with Ohlund for another full season.
Rumours are out their that Toronto wants Drouin and making a move.
They better try and kidnap him. Because most of what Toronto will offer is too expensive unless it’s Franson who is a UFA. And I doubt they part with Drouin for a rental.
Oh give me a frikken break!!
Hey they want em, it isn’t my fault that when they make the move they may run swiftly into a brick way and get denied fast.
I am not a fan of either team but I think that Buffalo wins this deal and here is my reasoning…Kane is just 23 years old and has never lived up to his potential but he sure as heck didn’t like when the team moved to Winnipeg and has been trying to get out of town ever since. I think his play suffered as a direct result as he was putting in minimal effort to force the Jets hand. With a move to Buffalo, yes, he is going to a worse team but they have nowhere to go but up. Pair him with a Jack Eichel or Connor McDavid…or even Sam Reinhart…and his offensive game should come back. Bogosian is 24, a big body and is solid in his own end. Yes, he is not as big as Myers however Myers game has consistently gone downhill since his rookie campaign and his game is about on par with Bogosian’s now. Stafford is another player who’s game has gone downhill the past few seasons and he is nothing more than a rental at this point. For the prospects involved…Armia has been slow to develop and is putting up OK numbers in the AHL, Lemieux is a solid all round player but how his game translates to the NHL remains to be seen. I don’t see Kasdorf more than organizational depth for a team lacking in goaltending options, but he is 6’4″ so he has the size. Long term I say Buffalo gets the better deal. That’s my take.
troy….watch the way myers and bogo head in a different direction now jets clearly won this trade not to mention the 1st but armia is a decent prospect and Lemieux will be a solid nhler for years
I hope Myers does well for the Jets and he will. I’ve watched him since Buffalo drafted him and pretty much what you’ll get is a solid player. He’s not Chara in checking and being nasty around the net or Campbell or Green offensively, but he’ll make plays and put up some goals.
What you’ll see is a huge guy that you think will check a guy through the boards or clear out the net when you’re goalie gets run over – but he won’t. This is why I wish him well think Buffalo pulled the trigger on him sooner than later. They are now going to take the time to develop Nikita Zadorov into that type of player!
I agree that Buffalo won the trade-more upside.
Not even close…Kane is like Cancer and Jets get three first round pick out of this
I can’t stand Kane but the one thing that I can say is that he never ever put in a minimal effort, the guy busted his but every time he was on the ice for the jets. Kane was on the 3rd line because they had trouble finding line mates that could play with him, he has speed to burn, plays physical and has a great shot, however he lacks the hockey iq to be an elite player, he can kill penalties very well but when it comes to having an imagination and an ability to create or finish plays offensively he just doesn’t have it and as a season ticket holder I’ve watch him work hard and come up short over and over, couple that with his arrogant know it all attitude and he won’t mature or improve. Bogosian is actually not as solid in his own end as the Jets would like as they were hoping that he would become their main shut down d-man a vision that according to maurice bogo didn’t share and he wanted more ice and oppourtunity to be an offensive d-man. Plus late in the game protecting a lead you just couldn’t put bogo on the ice as he looked like he was playing with a hand grenade instead of a puck. All that plus the massive rumors of Bogo’s off ice issues and the Jets wanting to get him away from Trouba and the Sabres I would say definitly don’t win this.
Kudos to Chevy n Murray for pulling iff this deal. IMO noth teams benefit. Jets for their playoff drive n Buffalo for upcoming seasons as their prospects mature. All other bidders lost out. Lets see more pre TDL follow soon.
What this means for Buffalo:
1. Buffalo will probably tank now for sure.. 1st round pick is coming!
2. Cody Hodgson will be on block soon. Package with Enroth for a high round pick. Maybe even to replace the 1st we just traded.
3. Buffalo’s 2015-2016 starting centers – McDavid (maybe) Reinhart, Girgensons, Grigorenko or Varone or McCormick.
4. Next up time for Buffalo to clean house on defense.
I’m gonna focus on 2 things being that I am in Rochester, NY and watch the Amerks.
1) Joel Armia is a big, super skilled (unbelievable hands) wing who is physical and has a great shot. He pick pockets guys, and scores highlight reel goals. I truly believe that he wasn’t hurt earlier this year and had gotten called up to the Sabres when he was healthy and on his game that he would never be sent back down. Do not discount that name at all. This kid is going to be a STAR in the NHL.
2) One thing not being looked at from the Sabres point of view is building a winning mentality. This trade rids the Amerks of their best player, and means with Stafford gone, another of their better players is going to be called up. Johan Larsson, Phil Varone, or maybe Tim Schaller (Grigorenko is hurt). Already out out of the playoffs this severely hidners these kids from making a run and gaining valuable experience. Losing is just becoming too accepted in this organization.
You seem to be following the Amerks pretty well.. What do you see in Zac Dalpe? He’s only 26 and got some size.. Would he make trading Armia a little easier?
What about Jordan Samuels-Thomas? Will he ever get called up now with Stafford gone?
I could see Dalpe getting called up but he seems to be stuck between being an offensive player and a gritty third line player. He has skills and shows fire but Armia is head and shoulders above him.
Samuels-Thomas has shown more improvement from the start of the year until now then I expected. I cannot foresee the future and how players improve but at this point he is far…..very far…..from ever being an NHL player. I am sure there are ECHL players with a better shot at NHL then him. Hope that wasn’t too harsh and hope he proves me wrong.
Good trade for both teams but I like that the Jets addressed a need for a winger this year and also stocked the cupboard for the future.
Enroth just went to Dallas
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Like I said. No way jets trade kane in the season unless someone puts together a deal that blows them away. Congrats Buffalo, that is a great package assembled… hope it works out for you guys. Get the first pick in the draft and this could be a very good turn around for you guys and make you all a serious player next season.
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What a steal for the Jets, in reality four first round picks ( Lemieux should’ve been in first round) and Drew!!!
WOW!!
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