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More Evander Kane speculation.
Despite a season-ending shoulder injury, there’s still interest in Evander Kane from rival clubs.
TSN.CA: Bob McKenzie explains why the Winnipeg Jets must trade Evander Kane (basically, they cannot go back to the status quo after last week’s incident) and why Kane, despite being sidelined by season-ending shoulder surgery, could still be dealt by the March trade deadline. While McKenzie claims some playoff-bound teams have dropped out of pursuing Kane because of his surgery, some teams (Vancouver, Calgary and – to a lesser extent – Washington) could still have interest. The Jets are expected to seek a high asking price. For example, they would want one of Vancouver’s good young players (like Bo Horvat or Jake Virtanen) as part of the deal. While it would be better for the Jets to wait until the summer when there will be more trade options, McKenzie notes the Jets are under some pressure to make the playoffs, meaning they could get tempted by offers to help them now.
NBC SPORTS: Jason Brough wonders how much a flawed asset like Evander Kane is worth in the trade market. He cites the Winnipeg Free Press claiming “standard asking price” for “a very good young player with a friendly contract” like Kane is a “young NHL player, a grade-A prospect and a first-round draft pick.” While Kane seems difficult to move, Brough notes the same thing was said a few years ago about Jeff Carter.
NICHOLS ON HOCKEY: Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman noted one team believes the Jets “intel” on Kane is untrustworthy regarding the good things about him they’re going to tell you. Friedman also claimed the Buffalo Sabres, Philadelphia Flyers and Calgary Flames could be among those with interest in Kane.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: I don’t doubt teams are intrigued, and the Jets could indeed feel pressure to move out Kane for a return which helps them right away, but I think Jets management are also looking long term here. If they get a return which helps them this season and beyond before the deadline, they’ll consider it. Otherwise, they’ll wait until the summer.
Could the Leafs trade Jonathan Bernier?
SPORTSNET: Jeff Blair reports there’s speculation Toronto Maple Leafs starter Jonathan Bernier could be shopped at the trade deadline. Blair said that doesn’t mean backup James Reimer is better, but rather “it’s hard to hitch your wagon to either of these goalies.” While goaltending is the Leafs’ “fourth or fifth pressing need, it’s an issue nevertheless, and one which no one in the front office saw coming.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Among the last players the Leafs should trade is Bernier. He and Reimer have had to bail out one of the worst defensive teams in the league night after night. The Leafs should be improving their defense, not blowing up the goaltending.
Canadiens to swing a significant deadline deal?
NICHOLS ON HOCKEY: TSN’s Darren Dreger reports there’s been trade buzz surrounding the Montreal Canadiens for some time. Dreger claims GM Marc Bergevin wants a top-six forward plus he’s had talks about a defensive swap.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: There’s talk the Habs are among those interested in Arizona’s Antoine Vermette. Bergevin has a willingness to pursue rental players and could go that route again.
Toronto will never take a step forward until they solve there goaltending problems, you hate to deal with them but you should be going after Boston’s Malcolm Subban, bring in a goalie who will be here for years not someone’s back up again. Winnipeg has to dump Kane now, he’s a bad apple & any team that takes him will have a project on there hands.
Leafs have no goaltending problem. Brick up the net cuz its the only way the skaters can play D. Solves ur perceived top priority.
Honestly how long do you think IT is before the leafs contend? 3-5 years is probably the ball park. At the minimum. So trading for a subban now isn’t really that important. Keep whatever you have in Reimer and if bernier doesn’t cost much. but they do have bibeau coming in their own system who could be ready in 3 years
PJ Toronto more than anything needs a first line center. After that need is addressed the Leafs need to focus on finding either a Doughty/Weber/Suter skill level defenseman or get a Robyn Regher, Adam Foote type shut down defenseman.
Phaneuf never had the game to be relied upon to get the Leafs there defensively.
Defense wins championships and well TO has had no defense for a very long time.
get over it the leafs suck and its not just their goaltending get in touch with your inner hab and follow a contender!!!
IF MONTREAL NEVER HAD PRICE THEY WOULD BE CLOSE TO BUFFALO IN THE STANDINGS
yes if the habs didn’t have Price they wouldn’t be as good as goes if the bruins didn’t have Thomas they would not of won the Stanley cup
proof is in the pudding with rask in net
ps lucic needs some skating lessons lol
maybe Gallagher could help him
PS go BRUINS
sounds like a bit of sour grapes and not don cherrys…your bruins are showing that there slower then most teams and that they cant bully other teams with lucic and chara anymore
did you see how lucic bounced off sekac and then went ape crazy after emelin hit him
I think he thinks it no hit lucic rule or he ll cry to the referees
That’s because the Habs play the Bruins well and cannot beat us so you’re looking for any negative its OK hater go on hating and we will continue beating you …
the way I look at it is ……
price or rusk
subban or chara
pacs or Bergeron
2 outta 3 are habs for sure
That kind of non-contributing juvenile crapola belongs in the site run by the Sun – not here.
You should be ashamed at using the tag PJStock to post this nonsense.
Total NHL shots faced by Bernier this year…. 1102 and counting.
Total NHL shots faced by Subban this year… 0
What makes you think Subban could be a future starter in Toronto when his current body of work in the NHL remains zero? And to put this mess in Toronto onto the goaltenders ignores the horrible horrible defensive play in front of them.
Fix what’s broken, not what works.
Option to Trade an injured Kane;
To Washington;
Evander Kane
To Winnipeg;
Andre Burakovsky
Tom Wilson
1st rd draft pick
Washington isn’t really jeopardizing their playoff hopes as each player is young not yet relied on and plays an avg. of just over 11 mins / game and would be taking Kane on for the future of course. The jets get two young promising players one a LW to eventually hopefully fill Kane’s void on that spot and the other a big right winger who is also young and could be a force along side Lowry on the 3rd line.
Cap space..Deal is a no go
There are a few ways they could deal with that..put Kane on LTIR, make another trade like Joel Ward a pending UFA, or include a contract like Wards in the deal with Winnipeg and add a draft pick or prospect back.
Agree…hinges on the domino effect. Also the Jets acquire more roster players n need another roster player move.
Kane’s decline in production year after year and his professional off ice issues makes me very wary to match the asking price.
Chevy is going to sit on it as he has proven in the past. He will likely find away to get what he has asked for to. But I am thinking it won’t happen till draft day or beyond.
Wait why? Kane will be moved for less than Chevy wants. He will finally pull the trigger if he wakes up. The Playoff push is his immediate job. If no TDL deal is made n the Jets miss the playoffs the fans will be pissed. The Kane Saga will end i predict sooner than later.
I cite the Sequin trade as an example n Kane is not a C.
I can see salary coming back to Winnipeg with a top prospect & at most a 2nd in 2015 or 2016.
I think the biggest mistake he could make is to try to cater to the temperament of the loyal Winnipeg fans. Kane is out of the picture for the rest of the season, off-loading him now for less than he is worth is not a good idea IMO, especially for picks and prospects. After the season ends, teams will have more cap space and more flexibility to take him on with less chance of having to take back a bad contract.
Personally, I think the only way they trade him is if they get back a decent return that helps them for at least a couple years (hockey trade), or a great package of futures saddled by a bad contract that ends this year. Trading him now for a bad contract, a 2nd, and a prospect would be a mistake, in my opinion, because he is worth more than that and the trade does nothing to help them down the stretch.
I am mostly basing this opinion on Chevy’s tendencies where he sets a price for a player and sits on it beyond all reason and in the end actually gets it’s the price he sets.
So in his equation I have Chevy’s stubborn unrelenting patience + Kane’s surgery and behaviour problems = not enough teams in the discussion till the summer time to allow Chevy t get what he wants.
Jeff I think a lot of Kane’s personal issues have long did him in with his teammates. When there is absolutely no desire or chemistry it precipitates into artificially low numbers.
The gamble on Kane is if this was a big enough kick in the pants for him to fix some of his personal short comings.
I dont see it as blowing up the goaltending…to fix the D the Leafs will need cap room which if Bernier is eating up 5 mill per isnt really helping adress anything when you consider Reimers numbers are just as good at half the price. It might be time to move on from Bernier. Just depends on the contract really. Lets review how durable Bernire has been so far, missed a chunk of last year, looked shakey at best part of this year cut himself now has a mysterious virus…again he could work out, but I just think it maybe a bad idea to assume this is the guy you lock up as a no 1 with how things have played out so far, Id say the same if it was Reimer.
Agree Shticky…Bernier moved for cap room not a fix. flexibility is hindering the Leafs as much as anything else.
Agreed. It was said in a previous post, if they are going into a rebuild for 3-5 years why not move him.
All this, I know, is banking on the leafs actually drafting well.
Move bernier and kadri to edmonton for their first and a salary dump.
Looking at cap space only Edmonton looks a possibility to move Bernier to. 1st the Oilers would need to find a taker for Purcell. Then say a Petry/Roy/Fasth for Bernier/? might make sense both ways.
Otherwise idk how Bernier is not a Leaf this n next season.
Again all depends, if the Leafs can bridge him for a year or 2 then keep him but if he is looking for 4 or 5 mill longer term I think you move him keep Reimer and bring up one of the kids to compete for the job. Its an easier job to find an adequate goalie for a team that will be building for a couple years compared to rebuilding a D corps, and hopefully a center. There is no rush to lock a goalie up (especially one with alot to prove) with so many other needs. Dallas could maybe be a fit Minnesota Edmonton, I am sure there would be some teams that have some interest in Bernier. Again depends on the contract and the talks should be starting soon so the Leafs can make some decisions.
Anything with the younger guys should be offseason moves. Kadri gardiner bernier they are still here in the summer so unless you get a tremendous offer now why bother. deal with the rest of this mess before the deadline and clear some space if possible. They better do it soon though with the way the leafs operate I can see there key trade pieces getting hurt.
Not saying its a huge rush, but you would want to avoid going to the last week of June before figuring out that you need to probably make another move is all I am getting at you may get a decent offer at the deadline or the draft and you dont want to let that go by and findout you missed the boat. Thats all, a ball park idea of what Bernier is looking for would be ideal sooner rather than later.
Totally agree.
Bang on except lumping Bernier in there. Goalies rarely fetch a tremendous offer. Its a philosophical trade for the Leafs. A new commitment to actually making real change to improve the culture with many other off season trades to come.
Kane to Buffalo makes sense! Buffalo will be VERY active at this deadline. I wouldn’t be surprised if 6-8 Buffalo players get moved…
Here are some ideas on my thoughts who should be coming and going in Buffalo.
Kane for Johan Larsson and 1st round pick
Jonathan Bernier for Jhonas Enroth and Mike Webber
Chris Stewart to Boston for 2nd round pick
Ryan O’Reilly for Drew Stafford, Mark Pysyk, and 2nd round pick
Andrej Meszaros to Detroit for a pick
Torrey Mitchell to Chicago for a pick
This is my first go at it, revisions probably needed…
Pretty much agree all but ROR, not enough and Chicago has better options than Mitchell IMO.
Probably fair value for Kane, but I don’t see Chevy taking it, if that was the best that is offered he’ll likely wait until the deadline. He also may rather have Armia bigger and a right handed shot.
I doubt the Leafs or Sabres make a deal like that between one another. Too much potential of it hurting their team for years…Leafs have enough trouble playing in Buffalo let alone against a goalie with a chip on his soulder.
Buffalo has three 1rst round picks I believe. The isle’s and I think Pittsburghs. Or did that one go to edmonton in the Perron deal. I can’t remember the other pick but that being the case a late 1rst rounder a prospect and a player like Gregorenko could be exactly what Chevy is asking.
Except that I would be shocked if Chevy was interested in another Russian after what he went through with burmi. If the KHL collapses that could change though.
I’ve hated to say it, but Mikhail Grigorenko could be the odd man out in Buffalo @ Center.
Next year we’ll have Zemgus Girgensons, Sam,Reinhart, Cody Hodgson, and I would have to believe McDavid. Even if we don’t get or play McDavid, we still have McCormick on the 4th line. We have Phil Varone in the AHL too.
Let’s say we do get McDavid – we can deal Varone, Grigorenko, or my surprise Trade Deadline Deal of 2015 by Buffalo Cody Hodgson. Too much upside on any of these guys to pass on them. It’s not like a couple years ago when we tried to get rid of Derrick Roy!
For the record Buffalo has the Islanders and Blues 1st rd picks which look like will be low first round picks. I agree with bruinnyandthejets…I don’t think Larsson and a first is enough. If Winnipeg is in the playoff hunt then I think a roster player will have to be included such as Tyler Ennis plus STL’s first and maybe a mid level prospect but if Winnipeg isn’t in the playoff hunt then I can see Ennis being replaced with a high end prospect such as Armia or Grigorenko. When Kane goes will be determined by Winnipegs playoff chances, if they are out of the running why not wait till the draft to trade him when teams will be able to juggle their cap space better.
How does this grab U.
ROR/2nd for Myers
Thats close, Id say because Myers is locked up and ROR is a headache waiting to happen the Avs may need to add a bit more than a second but its close.
Agree somewhat..guess ROR does need an extension. That said ROR would ne front n centre as top C in Buffalo. I think thats what he wants.
Shticky – I tried to be pretty realistic with these trades.
I really see Myers going to the Ducks before the trade deadline, the Wings right on d-day in a blockbuster deal or three team deal, or he’ll be traded in the off season. Mark Pysyk is a former 1st round pick by Buffalo, 23 years old, and has huge upside. Stafford would give the Av’s a veteran with some scoring and a 2nd round pick is pretty fair.
Torrey Mitchell is gone in Buffalo and if Chicago’s Center trade options dry up, Mitchell is a nice veteran presence for the playoffs on the cheap.
I really do think about 6+ players are gone off this Buffalo Roster.
What about Kaleta who is a RFA next year too? Will a team that doesn’t get a Chris Neil take a chance on him? And I’m not even trying to compare the two in the same hockey sense!!
Kalets has less than 0 trade value. Holland has stated over n iver picks n top prospects r not moving. No big deal for RHD is happening. U r prolly close on up to 6 players getting a new area code.
If you consider building from the draft up and project that your future top 3 centers are 2015 pick ( Strome?), Nylander and Gauthier, you are looking at 6 – 8 years for that core to reach maturity. Most of the current roster is irrelevant in that scenario. Reilly and perhaps Gardner and Kadri being the exceptions. If you can trade any of the current roster for future picks or prospects then why not, keeping in mind that all the deals don’t have to be made this year.
Could the Leafs reunite Bozak with Junior line mate Benn in Dallas? The Leafs could add in Franson to help Dallas D and get back a draft pick, Nichushkin and something else?
If that is a deal to work with im going for olekiak and either a first or a radek faska maybe. If we are going for prospects we need to focus on our terrible terrible defence. Faska is a former first rounder, a centre with good size. Toronto will have all the time in the world to be patient with the prospects. I like the Russian but I doubt they give him up in that deal so unless we go balls out and move Kessel and franson, I doubt it.
Good ideas though
? for Lyle or anybody in the know. Teams are interested in Phaneuf. Problem is he is on the injured reserve list. Can he be traded on or before the trade deadline even if he is still on the injured reserved list?
Kane:
1. last time jets were in playoffs was 2007
2. Winnipeg just got hockey team back recently
3. Winnipeg is out of wildcard spot but close
4. Kane is cannon-fodder firstly; a player secondly.
Winnipeg and Kane are done — 3 strikes your out
5. Winnipeg: If they make playoffs, Kane doesn’t get blamed; if they don’t, Kane gets blamed. Even more negativity and devalue.
Based on the above, if I was Chev he’d be gone ASAP for the best offer that gets Winnipeg in playoffs now for sure. And if they get in playoffs, fans/management probably wouldn’t complain even if it was a David Clarkson to do so, at this point. haha
If they get in playoffs in next 2 weeks, then they’ll wait until next year.
Tough call on Kane move him now for immediate help or wait and get a better return in the offseason. Edmonton should make a move for him as it will help the rebuild next season. Not sure what it would cost at this time.
If Kane doesn’t like Winnipeg I promise you he won’t like Edmonton
The Jets are better off waiting until the summer when teams have a better idea of their cap space/needs and draft standings. That’s when I speculate alot of deals will be done.
I suspect the Jets will trade Kane before the trade deadline only if they have a serious need up front and only to a team that is out of playoff contention – in other words, you seldom see teams in playoff runs trade roster players for projects like Kane. Otherwise, there is no reason to trade Kane before the deadline, why not hold out and maximize his value during the off season. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Winnipeg is hard pressed to find any takers for Kane. I think there have been enough head cases in the league that teams ought to know that only time is going to fix what is wrong with Kane… maturity.
anyone notice that the canucks are playing kassin
2 games2 goals
who else thinks there showcasing him