Get the latest on Curtis Glencross, Ryan O’Reilly, Jeff Petry, Nail Yakupov and more.
Glencross update.
Blackhawks interested in Curtis Glencross?
CALGARY SUN: Wes Gilbertson reports the reason Curtis Glencross could be dealt by the trade deadline is he and Flames management can’t reach an agreement on a new contract. Glencross is a UFA this summer and Gilbertson claims he seeks a big payday, but the dollars don’t work for the Flames. The winger is coming off a four-year, $10 million deal, which was considered a hometown discount.
NICHOLS ON HOCKEY: Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman believes the Chicago Blackhawks are interested in Glencross, who is interested in them. Friedman speculates the ‘Hawks could wait until the last minute leading up to the deadline to acquire the veteran winger, as that’ll free up more cap space to get the player they want.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Glencross has a full no-movement clause so he controls where he can be dealt. It’s interesting the Blackhawks are linked to him. Most of the reports I’ve read out of Chicago suggest their biggest need is adding an experienced third-pairing defenseman. If so, Glencross won’t address that need.
Latest Sabres rumors.
NICHOLS ON HOCKEY: TSN’s Bob McKenzie believes Buffalo Sabres GM Tim Murray will do all he can to acquire Colorado Avalanche forward Ryan O’Reilly. McKenzie would be surprised if that move occurs by the deadline, suggesting it’s more likely to be considered in the offseason.
NBC SPORTS: Mike Halford cites a reports from The Buffalo News’ Mike Harrington claiming there’s been no contract extension talks between the Sabres and goaltender Michal Neuvirth.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Unless Murray gets O’Reilly to agree to a contract extension with the Sabres before the trade, it will be a wasteful move. O’Reilly is eligible for UFA status in July 2016, coming off a two-year deal in which he earned $6 million annually. He could bolt for free agency if he decides Buffalo’s not for him. If O’Reilly won’t re-sign, Murray will be wasting assets on a player who’ll be gone in a year.
Oilers to trade Petry. Roy, Yakupov staying.
SPORTSNET: Mark Spector reports Oilers GM Craig MacTavish views checking-line forwards Matt Hendricks and Boyd Gordon important pieces of the roster going forward. MacTavish also suggests it’s very unlikely he’ll move center Derek Roy at the trade deadline, as he’s played well with young winger Nail Yakupov. It’s expected pending UFA blueliner Jeff Petry could be traded, as several teams (Pittsburgh, Montreal, Anaheim and Detroit) are keeping an eye on him. Though the Oilers tried again to re-sign Petry, Spector claims the blueliner is intent on testing the UFA market and will be traded, perhaps for a second-round pick and a prospect…Nick Kypreos doubts the Oilers will move Nail Yakupov at the trade deadline.
EDMONTON JOURNAL: Jonathan Willis also reports the Oilers are unlikely to trade pending UFA center Derek Roy and will try to re-sign him.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: I’m not surprised the Oilers hope to re-sign Roy, as he’s helped improve young Yakupov’s performance. The much-traveled Roy is on a one-year, $1 million deal and shouldn’t be an expensive re-signing. Barring a change of heart by Petry, I expect he’ll be playing elsewhere by March 2.
No deals yet for Senators.
OTTAWA CITIZEN: Wayne Scanlan reports Senators GM Bryan Murray is ready to deal but hasn’t received any calls yet. Murray is carrying eight defensemen and could move one of them. Pending UFA forward Erik Condra could also be dealt.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Jared Cowen and Patrick Wiercioch have been mentioned as possible blueline trade candidates. The Senators would also love to move winger Colin Greening, currently buried in the minors.
Lyle,
I asked this yesterday and assbackward gave me an answer which I believe means ROR can’t actually sign an extension with a team until the summer. So any team trading for him now would indeed be giving up assets without the reassurance of him sticking with them long term. So I’ll ask you again since from your comment it seems you feel he can sign one before the deadline with a team trading for him. Can ROR sign an extension before the summer? Or do they need to wait until a year or less remaining.
That’s correct, O’Reilly cannot re-sign until July 1. I’m basing my opinion on the Sabres pursuing him this summer, not at the deadline, as I don’t see him being traded then.
All that said, it wouldn’t be the first time a handshake agreement would be made, if they wanted (e.g. The Sabres say, “We’ll sign you for 5 x $7M as soon as July 1 rolls around. Are you in?”)
What type of return (realistic)— are the Av’s looking for O’Reilly?
Bogosian, a 1st, and a prospect/role player. Also, COL could sign him for eight years, per BUF’s terms, and then trade him to BUF. The caveat is that Patrick Roy values ROR’s play in all situations and doesn’t want to see him leave. We could very well see ROR re-sign in COL and push hard for a guy like Sekera in July
Peterman are you out of your freaking mind? O’Rielly is worth about a late first and a mid-level prospect. Murray isn’t stupid enough to get rid of our number one defenseman twice in less than a year. Especially for a overrated 2nd line center like O’Rielly. Plz put the laced Kool-Aid down before you come on this site.
Hey Paddy, Lyle and whom ever chooses to respond would it not be considered collusion if the Sabers and ROR shook hands on a future deal. Thus illegal and risk severe repercussions from the league.
There’s no collusion if the Avalanche agree to allow Murray to speak with O’Reilly’s agent.
Ah, I was thinking it could create an uneven playing field if some teams were given that permission and others were not. Thanks Lyle.
Again no one can talk until the summer. So any “talking” now would indeed be collusion. Imo anyway
Yeah, I’m not sure it would be legal. From my understanding, it still happens very frequently behind the scenes. (exhibit A: first few minutes of free agency day, how many players get signed? I’m pretty sure they have all been in [secretive] talks leading up to that date, and it hasn’t all been decided in 1-2 hours)
I hope $7 mill is just a joke of a number you brought up. I can’t see anyone giving ROR $7 mill a year, not even Toronto.
Something to remember….Tim Murray is very good friends with ROR agent. He happens yo also be Kane’s agent.
What buffalo likely trade. The other STL/NYI 1st and Pysyk/Mcabe and one of Compher/Karabacek/Cornel/. Another potential player in a deal is Ennis.
None of Risto/Zadorov/bogosian gets traded.
If they can’t get him a new contract they trade him for a playoff teams 1st and a prospect.
A comparable trade value yo look at is the Pominville trade.
Bufalo will not mortgage the future to get him. They can turn away and wait till he is a free agent.
Pat Morris is RORs agemt Craig Oster is Kanes…they are not the same person.
same agent
I believe it’s the same company not the same agent…
http://www.thehockeyagency.com/players-section/nhl
Edmonton is status quo… what a shock.
Trade rumours around the same players same time next year?
It’s ruff getting players for Edmonton. Any they trade for they need to be certain they will stay or have at least more than a couple years of contract left so they don’t waste assets like the Buffalo and ROR scenario being discussed.
It’s no secrete players last choice distintion is often Edmonton. Climate, media, taxes, poor win/loss record, etc. I believe this is the main reason Edmonton refuses to trade there top picks. They feel they need to draft them, show loyalty to them and hope to earn the loyalty in return. Until this team starts winning I think much of it will be status quo,
It’s quite amazing because they do have players historically loyal to them like Ryan Smyth. The place can’t be that bad.
It’s not taxes as Alberta is the best place for that according to a recent cbc story… Even now better than Florida.
Those polls indicate trends, but just because it’s a popular opinion doesn’t mean all hockey players have that opinion. Edmonton could still draw some talent in the free agent market, especially with their young core. Who the heck wants to go to Pittsburgh? Nobody… unless they have star players like Lemieux, Malkin, Crosby, etc. Lotta players would play for the north pole if McDavid was drafted there.
Good info Gb I thoughht all the Canadian teams had higher taxes than the American teams. Guess I can flip flop my opinion on that.
MJR I, I agree, yet I still think it posses a challenge for them but having said that I realise they are not alone with this challenge and other teams likely have other challenges to overcome when attracting players. Until they start winning attracting free agents will be difficult,
I was hoping when Karlsson had that 70pt season that he’d be a key piece to attract players to Ottawa.
Lyle, What are the chances Leafs getting their 2nd round pick back from LA for Polak?. I guess Polak’s salary is affordable for Kings and early 2nd round pick fits Leafs r-building plan.
Edmonton is not a bad city by any means, I lived there for 20 years and really enjoyed the city. It does actually have a lot going on, winters however are or at least we’re really bad. If climate change keeps giving them more winters like the last couple maybe that would help.
I have lived over 20 years in each of Toronto and Edmonton. I’d take an Edmonton winter over a southern Ontario one any day. The dry climate makes a big difference.
A major factor for players would be the travel schedule. Edmonton is pretty remote and the Oilers log way more miles each year than east coast teams.
Losing in a city where everybody knows who you are is not something that anybody would enjoy. Oilers deserve to be in a position to pay premiums until they create a better winning environment.
Oh I know all about wet and dry winters growing up in New Brunswick. Now living with Polar Bapears on the Hudson Bay. Wife from Southern Quebec. I been to Ottawa many a winter. Twin brother in Vancouver, a 6 degree temp in Vancouver is colder than a -10 degree temp here on the Hudson Bay. It just gets to -50 here. I think it was -49 Celsius today. Yet the Northern lights tonig are Beautiful. Home is what you make of it,
However when it comes to climates and such you can make a great home anywhere the choice comes down to if you had a million dollars being a pro athlete do you go to the great city of Edmonton, or do you go to a sunnier spot like Anaheim? If he option is there I don’t blame those who go to warmer climates.
I think mac t isn’t even close to being a good gm they need to bring in maybe the team of gretzky / messier and restore the pride of Edmonton
mac t is going to miss the boat if he does not address the goaltending problem he has and leadership needed …
lunchbox teams are extinct you can have maybe a fourth line of them but they still have to be able to skate score and drive the other team mad with forecheck
look at the isles line of martin cickas and clutterbug or capitals line Wilson beagle and who ever all teams need them but they cant be your second or third line
so oilers have Gaudic, Hendricks, Hamilton, Gordon, even Roy that’s enough maybe even too many
just sayin
Why would you want Gretzky there? He failed miserably as a coach already, why bring him in to be a GM? Not every hall of famer is suited to be a coach/gm. Look at Lemieux for example, he’s an owner. You don’t want to bring in someone with no experience what so ever. The Oilers should be targeting Ray Shero hard. A man that we have seen fleece quite a few teams in the trade market and has been rather successful at drafting players as well.
I personally am okay with what Mac T has done so far. The goalie issue will be solved in time, Mac T has at least added pieces that are solid role players and some younger guys up and coming. Bringing Todd Nelson on as interim coach was a great move. He’s gone to the conf. finals in the AHL 2 of the 4 full seasons in the AHL and has put in his time as an assistant coach and coming through the ranks. It also seems like he has a good feel for working with the younger kids as well as Yakupov’s play and Klefbom’s have really picked up since he has taken over.
To continue the goalie rant, that will solve itself. To acquire a #1 by trade would be extremely costly, so really he has to wait and I think when Tampa Bay makes Ben Bishop available (which should happen next off=season as he’ll be in the last year of his deal, then go for him then). Other options of course is Martin Jones who would be a real tough acquisition with all the interest in him league wide. Other options would be Anderson from OTT, maybe Niemi from SJS who they could potentially get via FA as well, or maybe try and acquire Pickard from COL who has been really good for the Avs in his 15 games that he has played
In Toronto and Edmonton all you hear is the goaltending issue.
Dubnyk was sent packing out of Edmonton last year because he was a sub-par goaltender and well we know where he is this year.
This is part of the development issues in Edmonton. A few short months with Sean Burke and you have a goalie playing in a Vezina like fashion.
Bernier’s numbers are better than Hillers in Calgary this year yet many Leaf fans are banging the drum for a new “Goaltender of the Future”. Bernier in fact is not that far below Rinne and Price.
Fast and Scrivens quite simply need a better goalie coach and a few defensemen that are able to do their job in front of them.
Bernier will likely have to be traded due to the retooling of the Leafs but that is more from a money aspect than a talent aspect.
In both Edmonton and Toronto a lack of a dynamic leader and poor development have stunted both organizations horribly. Deal with those issues and many of the troubles plaguing both clubs would go away.
A second round pick and a prospect seems like a lot to pay for a player who is insistent on testing the free agent market. I guess the Habs did it last year but you have to wonder if it is worth it for a handful of games.
Well after watching how pitiful the Sabres were last night against my rangers they better do something to up their game… Even with masa is and Kane that’s not going to cut it. Bogosian is a player I wish my rangers had. Rough and tough
*mcdavid and kane
I disagree. Sabres possible top 9 moving forward. McEchel, Reinhart, O’Reilly, Girgensons, Ennis, Moulson, Gionta,Foligno and Kane. Top 4 d includes Risto, Zads, Bogs and Gorges. That’s good enough from last to possible playoffs.
So with the RoR rumors swirling to Buffalo, and Colorado’s dire need to for a good LH shot dman. I think it would make sense to go along the lines of Gorges + Grigorenko + Late BUF 1st for O’Reilly.
Grigorenko is very up and down so far with the Sabres, feels like forever since he has been drafted. A fresh start for him with his JR Coach as the Head Coach of the Avs in Patty Roy as well as a good shutdown LH shot dman and the late 1st rounder that the Sabres have available
I’m an Avs fan so I would hope that they would target one of Ristolainen/Zadorov as a piece in the deal, but I know the chances of that are very slim to none, so I’m being realistic
Thoughts anyone?
Ryan O’Reilly is a solid/young player, but a career -15 doesn’t deem that type of return. How you’re a -15 on Buffalo I understand, but not on a good team like the Av’s…
1st round pick (our late pick), Cody Hodgson and Andrej Meszaros is more like it..
Nobody is interested in trading for Mezaros. The Avs need a bonafide, top-4, LH defender.
@Bart,
Not no sure the Avs have been a good team. Since ROR (09-10) has been there, they’ve made the playoffs twice. Buffalo has been there twice in the same time. I don’t exactly see Colorado as a powerhouse over the last 5 years. One good year doesn’t erase them being in the basement of the west for years. I’d say overall, they have been worse than Buffalo since 09-10.
@Bart
Yeah, the Avs are not exactly the big power house team that you’re thinking. Keep in mind, they made the playoffs RoR’s rookie year (in large part to Craig Anderson) and then the next year they finished 2nd last and picked up Landeskog and missed the playoffs the next 2 years and won the lottery and selected MacKinnon. Last year the were only as good as they were because of Varly stealing them games left and right.
Also, RoR does lead the league in take aways, a category that Pavel Datsyuk has basically laid claim to for the last 10 years, he is a very, very under appreciated two-way forward.
A 6 million dollar 45 point guy is under appreciated?
@Shticky
I’m sorry, I forgot that we’re going back to his sophomore year for the last time that he had under 55 pts (not counting lockout year where he had 20 pts in 29 games) Which was on pace to translate to another 55+ point season. I didn’t know we were taking his 19 and 20 year old seasons into account
Hilch he is on pace for around 15 goals and 45 points this year, last year 64 points and in 2011 55, 6 seasons 2 over 50 points, 1 single 20 goal season…good player but 6 mill? For a winger?
kessel makes 8million whats your point?
@ Jello
@ Jello
I’m not a Kessel, or a Leaf fan. But to compare Kessels salary and ROR in terms of production proves nothing you want it too lol.
Kessel has 5 seasons of over 30 goals and is slightly has career 0.78 ppg. Kessel is paid to put up points. And he does that pretty well, other shortcomings aside.
ROR is being paid 6M per because he won an award that combines good play and sportsmanship. It’s not really an award that warrants a big raise in my opinion. He has scored over 20 goals once and operates at a 0.53 ppg. Granted he has room to improve but he’s not this year.
A good comparison is Kyle Turris. They have similar stats but Turris was slower to develop so there are less comparable years unless we take out ROR’s middle seasons. Kyle and Ryan’s stats are similar in the first 2 nhl seasons they each played, and the 2 recent. Turris is 3.5/year, ROR is 6/year. I also don’t see all the fuss about ROR. He’s good, but not 6M good.
all im saying is they both aren’t worth what they are getting paid! lol
Compare the big 6 million dollar winger, some people have questioned Lucic this year 11 goals 21 points same as ROR but Lucic 329 points 540 games, ROR 220 points in 404 games. RoR is along way from being a 6 mill guy, and thats atleast what he is going to cost after next year on a longer term deal.
Tyler Bozak 355 games 220 points and one of the better faceoff guys in the league is a 4 million dollar player not saying Bozak is better I am saying you dont overpay a guy because of takeaways, faceoffs or not taking
penalties.
Featers offersheet wrecked RORs
value.
If you were Colorado, would you do that trade. Hodgson is a regular healthy scratch with 2 goal this year, Mezzaros isn’t a good player. I love the ‘trade my crap for your good player’ scenario fans like to play out.
@Shticky
So… You do know that he is playing in the middle right now? Also that he is only 24 years of age. First 2 rookie seasons at 18 and 19, a lockout shortened season, so in 3 of 4 seasons 50+ point, or on potential for that. One kind of off year where there has been constant trade speculation on a team that is struggling offensively altogether. Yeah sure he’s worth around 6 million. There are players making almost as much of him that bring far less value to a team on much worse term.
Your argument really isn’t that fact driven, or thought out, considering you say he’s got a bad +/- compared to a Buffalo player, when in reality those two teams have performed eerily similar since O’Reilly has been in the league. As well as taking the performance of a teenager that was considered to be a shut down center when he first came into the league and has really developed offensive abilities as he’s played more in this league. So what part of a potential top 2-way forward that looks like a 50+ points is not worth the money at that age?
Not me using plus minus and I gave am example of him compared to a winger (Lucic) and compared to a center (Bozak), I dont believe guys should br paid for intangibles or what the bring to a team, thats how teams get stuck with the Clarksons and Clowes of the world “iintangibles!”,and again his possession stats are decent but the rest of the teams corsi is so bad…anyway again I am not saying he is bad by any means just saying not worth 6 mill plus first round draft pick, and top prospects….someone may do it imo its a mistake.
Not to mention if ROR and Duchene are both worth 6 mill what does that make MacKinnon worth? 8+? Thats where I am starting if I am his agent, and there are 3 RFAs all making around 6 mill… ROR screws a teams cap struture up.
I was thinking gretzky and mess in the the role of what lowe and mac t have
gretzky did win with the olmypic teams and he passed the torch to stevie y
I like your pickyard or someone like biship scernio but it sure would help to have it your system
I like nelson as coach he seems to have the respect of the players
see I like the scernio of maybe fucale and a draft pik for petry as unless something happens to price hes a hab for at least 5 more yrs
to be fair… it really is not THAT difficult to pick Team Canada and the coaching staff usually have the majority of the say for who’s in and who’s out.
hilch I see your point but why if that’s so easy is gretzky is so sought after … hes part of the las vegas bid for a team ..Toronto was looking at him before they hired shanny
I would think hat was obvious. Gretzky is good for Marketing and thus dollars signs pop in people’s eyes when hey think of adding his name to their team.
No surprise to me they want him associate with a new franchise or that Toronto a team historically that looks for quick fixes and profit would be interested I him.
He would be there in an ownership capacity I would think. If he were a coach I would think it would be on an short-term basis
And he is so sough after because well, he’s the best player to ever play the game! For him to go to Las Vegas, it would mean they would have a face on their franchise, at least in the front office. Something to lure potential FA’s to go there apart from going to the city that never sleeps.
As for Toronto targeting him, they’ll do anything to try and fix that franchise…
If they put a team in Vegas next year, they should start looking for a relocation spot now.
They would probably look in to Oklahoma again, the Barrons did so well and I am sure there is still more of an underground hockey market there than Nevada.
they should move the leafs to vegas it will still be cheaper to fly to vegas and get tickets than what they pay at the acc and the leafs play like an expansion team?
if wasn’t for the leafs there would be no nhl
funniest comment ive heard on here john!! good one!
ror is very good at take aways but I would think his pt totals would be up or his puck posseion would be
Late 1st, Grigerenko, and pysyk or McCabe w conditional 2nd if buff makes the playoffs for ROR. Book it
Hope that ‘speculation’ was made with sarcasm because that is a horrible trade proposal… we will not see that trade happen. Book it
Dubnyk – you can’t blame the oilers with this one. He was developed slowly and right, and under he coaching in Edm he proved himself capable as a starter and won that job on merit after a strong season. He got there under the coaching that was available in Edm too so I don’t think that should factor in the equation. He fell completely on his face though last season from the get go. I’ve watched those games last October/November and it was a brutal display of goaltending. brutal – not brutal in a no help form the D, brutal as in poor decisions by dubnyk with pucks going in from everywhere. He wasn’t able to recover (and didn’t in any of his stops last year) but got himself back together this off season and has done very well for himself. Which is very impressive – should that qualify as a masterson nominee? Did they give up to quick on him, in hindsight, maybe, but he didn’t even look like a pro goalie in those games, yet alone a NHLer.
So yeah, it stings now, but I don’t think it’s fair to pin this on mgnt (they do have more than enough to be blamed for in almost all other areas). Dubnyk looked more likely to become the next Justin Pogge than he was to ever stick around in the NHL even as a backup, yet alone take over a starter role.
It’s no all that uncommon that goaltenders do better in a different system after a trade, at least temporarily. Smith, Mason, Bobrovsky etc. And who knows, In Edmonton or Arizona he more than likely wouldn’t be performing like he is today.
Perry & Yakupov to Pens for Sutter (signed through 2016)
y would Edmonton ever do that trade …….mac t would have to be on drugs to do that deal
here is what person said about fucale versus subban
At least Subban has hope. He proved it throughout his junior career. Unlike Fucale who is almost the worst goalie this year, after having McKinnon, Druion and Ehlers shield him for his 1st two years.
He new team, the Ramparts, after being traded there isn’t even playing him. They don’t trust him in goal.
I seem to remember him winning gold this yr with the jr. and I watched him in the glory yrs of mooseheads and he was very very good
but im curious to what you guys think which you would trade for first and why
I’m pretty conflicted, I have no idea knowing little of the two goalies at this point I would go for Subban just to see what he can do and to market his name, lol
subban is not a good goalie atleast fucale has won something no doubt fucale will be better than subban in the long run
Goofy senerio but what if Edmonton ends up with second pick (eichel) and coyotes end up with third (hanifin). Could anyone see a trade coyotes move up to get there franchise centre and Edmonton moves down to get a stud d man thy desperatly need plus something else from coyotes.
Not that goofy at all. I’m sure there are several teams that are trying to figure out how to do the same thing.
Very plausible. However I think the oilers will go with Eichel they do have some young D coming up and Defesive prospect may take too much time to develope for the oilers right now. The pressure is building in them to start winning now.
Glencross and Jones to Chicago for Bickell and Versteeg. Gives Chicago a little cap relief this summer when Glencross comes off the books. Could also buyout the last year of Jones’ contract for a little more. Calgary gets some quality playoff experience in the room without mortgaging the future.
Chicago could also trade Bickell/Versteeg to Buffalo for Stewart and Mitchell for a similar result.
Calgary could look at Jones, Baertschi and Diaz to Buffalo for Stewart, Hodgson and Strachan.
One more random Stewart trade possibility: Stewart Gorges and Matt Ellis to Nashville for Ryan Ellis, Stalberg and Nystom
Although it would be unfortunate to lose Glencross and what he has brought to the team over the years, it would be good to get something for him, instead of losing him to FA and getting nothing. As an added thought, I wonder if in the offseason, if LA buys out Mike Richards, Calgary signs him to a more logical deal, then trades for Kessel. Have Kessel and Richards on a line with Raymond, and have Monty, Johnny Hockey and Jiri Hudler, Bennett, Jooris, and Wolf. I think the Flames would be even tougher next season.
I could see that happening and what happening if the cotes puts domi in play in the pkg