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SPORTSNET: Elliotte Friedman believes other NHL clubs could be calling the Winnipeg Jets to find out what’s going on with Evander Kane (note: it’s since been revealed since Friedman’s report that Kane was scratched for violating the club’s dress code)…He wonders if the Buffalo Sabres could consider buying out disappointing center Cody Hodgson. As he’s under 26, such a buyout is at one-third the remaining value over twice the remaining tenure…Friedman doesn’t think Montreal Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin is happy with his blueline and wonders if he could have interest in Buffalo’s Tyler Myers…LA Kings goalie Martin Jones is attracting interest in the trade market but Friedman claims he’s not available…No contract talks yet between the Minnesota Wild and recently-acquired goalie Devan Dubnyk, who’s won six of eight with the Wild…The Arizona Coyotes could seek a couple of young physical defensemen…The Coyotes are getting the most calls about center Martin Hanzal but it’ll take a big offer to land him…A couple of teams suspect the Colorado Avalanche are a stealth candidate for Arizona center Antoine Vermette…Teams uncertain of playoff contention are loathe to part with their first-round pick in this year’s draft…There’s definitely interest in Toronto’s Dion Phaneuf from clubs who believe he can shine out of the Toronto media glare and without the pressure of being the top blueliner.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Kane’s situation will bear watching in the coming days. Has GM Kevin Cheveldayoff’s patience finally grown thin with Kane?…Wouldn’t surprise me if Hodgson gets bought out this summer considering it will be cheaper than if they wait for next year…Everyone would love to acquire Tyler Myers, but I don’t see teams paying a huge price right now to get him…If Dubnyk carries the Wild into the playoff you can bet the Wild will try to re-sign him, but they’ll have to figure out what to do with Darcy Kuemper and Niklas Backstrom…I doubt the Coyotes part with Hanzal, who could be part of their “reset”…I still think the Avs biggest need right now is a defenseman, not a rental forward…Sure, there’s interest in Phaneuf, but moving him probably won’t happen until this summer at the earliest, when there will be more interest from clubs with money to spend.
Latest from TSN’s Bob McKenzie.
NBC SPORTS: TSN’s Bob McKenzie believes the Boston Bruins are still in the market for an experienced scoring winger, preferably a rental player as they’ve got several key players to re-sign this summer…The New York Rangers are interested in re-signing Mats Zuccarello but have limited cap space this summer and several other notable players due for hefty raises…Offers are flooding in for Ottawa Senators winger Chris Neil. Though Neil has expressed his willingness to remain in Ottawa, McKenzie suggests keeping an eye on him as the trade deadline nears…His top trade deadline targets are Arizona’s Antoine Vermette and Zbynek Michalek, Carolina’s Andrej Sekera, and Toronto’s Cody Franson and Daniel Winnik…McKenzie believes we should keep an eye on the Anaheim Ducks and Nashville Predators as they could attempt to boost their lineups at the deadline.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: If the Sabres lower their asking price for Chris Stewart, he could end up in Boston at the deadline…I think Zuccarello could become a cap casualty for the Rangers…Neil’s situation is interesting, as one day it sounds like he doesn’t want to be dealt and the next day he might change his mind. Depending on the team, he could accept a deadline trade…I also expect the Ducks and Predators to be busy near the trade deadline. They’re two of the top teams in the Western Conference and could load up for a Cup run.
Rumblings from Pierre LeBrun and Craig Custance.
ESPN.COM: Pierre LeBrun notes the initial report claiming Ottawa Senators winger Chris Neil, when asked by management if he preferred a trade, wants to remain in Ottawa, but thinks Neil could be having a change of heart. LeBrun believes a Neil trade is still possible. He has a 15-team “no-trade” list which was submitted in October, but there is considerable interest in Neil. The Nashville Predators could be among the suitors. The Chicago Blackhawks could be another, though they lack cap space and would have to ship out a salaried player…The Predators have opened preliminary contract talks with pending UFA center Mike Fisher…They’re also believed to have interest in Toronto defenseman Cody Franson…The Maple Leafs have reached out to pending UFA center Mike Santorelli regarding a contract extension. If unable to re-sign him the Vancouver Canucks and New York Rangers could be among those with interest.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Blackhawks can’t afford to take on Neil as they need cap space for next season. If he were a UFA this summer it might be a different story…Expect Fisher to re-sign with the Preds. He’s been dynamite since returning in December from a ruptured Achilles tendon…Franson’s a goner, it’s just a question of where.
NICHOLS ON HOCKEY: ESPN’s Craig Custance believes “100 percent” that Buffalo Sabres defenseman Tyler Myers is available but it will take a substantial offer to land him. The LA Kings are believed to have some interest in Myers. Custance suggests a Myers trade might not happen until the NHL Draft in June…He feels the Arizona Coyotes should trade Keith Yandle now while his trade value is higher than it would be in the summer, when he’ll only be a rental player as he’ll have one year left on his contract…Custance believes the Kings tried to shed Mike Richards salary in order to clear cap space to add a defenseman…He feels Cody Franson to Detroit makes so much sense for the Red Wings.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Sure, Myers is available, if you’re willing to part with one or two good young players, a top prospect and your first-round pick…I can see the logic in Custance’s claim about Yandle, but I still think the Coyotes could wait until the summer to move him…Sure, Franson to Detroit makes sense, but the Wings don’t have a pressing need to make significant moves this season compared to last year at this time. And I’m not sure the Leafs want to trade Franson to a conference rival, giving the Wings his exclusive negotiating rights and a better chance of re-signing him.
That’s the kicker with Neil – the term left on his contract and although his $1.9 cap hit isn’t onerous, the teams likely to want him for the stretch run and the playoffs are also the teams up against the cap and who have key RFAs to sign in the off-season. But having said that, he’s more likely the one to go than Legwand and Phillips who each also have 1 more year to go at cap hits of $3 mil and $2.5 mil. They’re going nowhere.
In my opinion Neil would be the most desirable due to the way he plays the game. He is a perfect fit for any team needing a bit of nastiness in the playoffs. You can never have enough nastiness come playoff time when the Refs put away their whistles.
I agree Jeff, for teams needing jam in the playoff’s he’s the guy.
I would love to see the Sharks pick up Neil. While GM Wilson caught flack for getting Torres and Scott, the way Neil plays is perfect for playoff hockey, especially as I don’t see Raffi coming back any time soon. The Sharks just don’t have any consistency on the third and fourth lines, and a guy like Neil might bring that around.
Good morning Spec. With all due respect, any team that is in a rebuild shouldn’t be worried about trading within a conference. I’m sure if Detroit makes Toronto a solid offer for Franson, he’ll be gone. And if Toronto doesn’t take it, then it just shows how bad this management team really is. Infact the Leafs should only be looking at who has the best offer for all of their players, at this point even if Montreal and Ottawa are interested in some of their players, and they make a great offer, the Leafs should take it! Start the rebuild the right way, and look to the future because this team is definitely not built to win a cup.
Generally speaking, when Leafs fans speculate about trades involving their team it’s almost always the “make a great offer” factor that reduces the proposals to pie-in-the-sky status. Reasons why they are so bad alternate from management to scouting to coaching, but judging by what they think they can get back in return in many instances leaves one to believe that they think the collection of players are not at fault.
After being a healthy scratch against Vancouver Kane has started the final chapter in Winnipeg. It is quite likely Kane orchestrated the whole thing to get trade out of town since his role has been reduceD to that of a 3rd line checking role.
Before every Leaf and Oiler fan responds we should trade xxx for Kane think about the issues surrounding Kane. A team that could be very interested though is Montreal.
I know salary would be tough to sort out, but I would love to see Kane in Philly. A line of SImmonds on one side, and Kane on the other would be awesome!
Maybe move out the Schenn brothers for Kane.
Salary would work, and the Schenns would be coming home..almost as Brayden played for the Brandon Wheat Kings.
I think there could be a great fit for both sides.
Kane is a spoiled brat. This is the second year in a row he has misbehaved at this time of year because things are not going his way. It would be very dangerous for any rebuilding team to consider Evander. A team with strong veterans will be needed to mute Evander’s negative attributes.
If you can find a player/ coach Kane truly respects you will have a left winger you can build around. Kane is only 23 … he is going to get better and more consistent if you can find the right situation.
E Kane for J Petry. Oilers are going to lose Petry anyways. Might as well get something for him. That would keep Petry out of the US where he wants to go, as retribution for not signing for longer term last year.
The Jets can do way better than just Petry for Kane, never going to happen…
The Jets don’t need more defensemen, they need scoring.
One of THE glaring problems in Edmonton is their D – or lack thereof – so why do Oilers fans think they can get back quality – however flawed – for a D they have no use for? At best Petry might get a 3rd round pick and a quasi-prospect. Certainly not an everyday player still in his early 20s with Top 3 qualifications.
Kane is simply a young man who has much growing and humbling to do. This can be taught. It is not unique to Kane and winnipeg. Remember Perhaps it will result in a trade but these behavior problems can be dealt with. They don’t need to be simply tossed away for someone else to deal with.
Kane is meeting with doctors. For this to be in the media it likely means there is a potential trade in the works.
It would not surprise me to see Kane for Kessel… Trading of assets and issues.
Just had to put it out there.
Will not happen.
NOT LEAF BASHING, BUT…..
will not happen
Kane to Boston they will smartin him up for Ericsson and a pick.
So let me get this straight you think Boston would just have to give up the injury prone Ericsson and a pick for Kane??? Ericsson is one good hit away from being the next Marc Savard & Kane could be in the league for another 10 years or more and has all-star pedigree. I get that as a Boston fan you are inherently a little dim but keep dreaming.
Mike your comment is dim witted, 10yrs or more as an all-star. Who do you think Kane can fetch. I would trade Marchand for Kane straight up. The last two season Marchand has better number then Kane.
There was no need for Mike to put in the smarmy “dim” comment – but he was referring to the Ericsson proposal, he did NOT say Kane had the potential to be an all-star for the next 10 years (all-star pedigree over a 10-year-+ career is entirely different)and made no mention of Marchand. If Boston offered Marchand straight up for Kane Cheveldayoff would make that deal in a New York minute.
Mike I can see how one would think because of Kane’s upside that the trade Obe proposed is unbalanced. But look at all the factors invovled. Kane himself has been bit by the injury bug quite a few times in his career so far and is currently injured, possbily requiring surgery. He is also a locker room cancer, behavioral problem, and a project to say the least. Ericsson is proven professional, successful two way player, and repeated 20 plus goal scorer. While I wouldn’t be for that trade necessarily, I also wouldnt say it is a pipe dream either. And the insults arent necesary to prove a point.
I think that trade actually makes allot of sense, The B’s would need to make it a 1st this year most likely though. Erickson could fit onto that2nd line in WPG and provide some veteran stability to the team, while Kane would indeed be whipped into shape in Boston and the $1m cap hit the Bruins would take is palatable and the longer term means Boston can focus on other assets being resigned/replaced cheaper without having to look for another top 6 forward in a year or two.
Good call!!!
Because Boston really did a great job of smartin up Seguin
Will not happen.
NOT LEAF BASHING, BUT…..
will not happen
The biggest surprising move that I wouldnt be surprised by Phaneuf getting traded somehow, maybe for no return other than bad contracts that comes off the books in the next year or 2 and a 2nd or third round pick…just for the capspace. Phaneuf for Horcoff & Hemsky and a 2nd or 3rd kind of thing. Would not surprise me. The Leafs may get a better return in the summer, but it may be anidea to strip the team down well before then.
Schticky with all due respect Toronto is going to have to pay a team to take Phaneuf. Toronto’s cost will be a prospect or a pick and the quality will depend on how much salary TO keeps.
The Leafs are in the same situation with Phaneuf as LA is with Richards. Fortunately Phaneuf is still a line up player and it won’t cost more.
There are several teams that would like to have Phaneuf in their lineup, and the pot won’t need to be sweetened by adding a prospect or pick in with Phaneuf. The only issue is finding a team that has the cap space. Like what Schticky said – the Leafs will likely have to take back a contract or two that will expire in a year or two. To suggest that Phaneuf is in the same category as Richards is ignorant. Leafs fans love to bash Phaneuf, but Phaneuf is simply a victim of the unfortunate situation he finds himself in with Toronto. In a second-paring role without the C on his jersey in a less intense market than Toronto, Phaneuf can be very effective, and other teams know this.
It’s not just the Cap space that is the concern regarding Phaneufs contract. It is the number of years left with that Cap space. There are few teams willing to handcuff themselves with that contract. If the cap hit was for 1, 2 or maybe 3 years many more teams would be interested. He is only a year or 2 into this 49 million 7 year contract. I think that is the main obstacle. The term.
Term? Next year the stars are down Hemskys contract up Phaneuf so really its a diffference of 3 mill in year 1 after that its a 5 year term at 7 mill wjat do you want to bet that with in 2 years a good 3/4 d man is close to 6 mill (if not more) on a long term deal like 6 or 7 years and they have one signed for 5 years at 7 mill…its hardly a stretch. If the cap only goes up only 3 mill over the next 2 years you would be looking at around a 72 mill cap with a 7 mill hit or just 9.5 % of the cap and going down from there…in the long term Phaneufs deal gets easier not harder. Again look at so e other contract signed recently 3/4 d men are not cheap and are only getting more expensive. Think about the contracts Sekera Methot Franson will ne getting this year. Then think 2 years down the road…this os what I am getting at all along yes Phaneuf is overpaid but right this moment its maybe between 1 to 1.5 mill over paid max, once so e other guys start raisi g the bar more that ammount goes down, 2 uears ago do you thi k anyone was giving Orpik Niskanen or any pf the others I mentioned contracts anywhere near what they are making now?
First TML I said the Leafs are fortunate Dion is still a line up player.
The cost teams are talking about taking on Richards contract are 2 bad contracts going back for Richards, Toffoli/ Pearson and a draft pick.
So for the Leafs to get rid of a more expensive contract for a prospect and/or draft picks depending on what TO decides to keep as far as salary goes is reasonable. That contract is really bad to deal.
Clarkson’s is even worse.
People really have to start paying attention to money now and not just think about the players skill level.
Who would pay 7 mill a year for a second pairing dman?
Same team that just rid themselves 7-8 mill worth of 3rd and fourth liners that needs D. Russ you are delusional if you think Phaneuf is just lucky to be in the league. Obviously dont watch many Leaf games so just spare us the Phaneuf soap box speech.
Never said Phaneuf was a marginal player. What I am saying is he is paid way too much for his skill level.
Phaneuf cap hit: 7m
Doughty cap hit: 7m
Shea Weber Cap Hit: 7.85m
Ryan Suter Cap Hit: 7.38m
Players around Phaneuf’s skill level:
Hjalmersson 4m
Johnathan Ericsson 4.25M
Kyle Quincey 4.25M
Now why would you trade for Phaneuf when you could likely get the same caliber D-man for 4-4.5M?
Toronto should try and free themselves of Phaneuf’s entire salary if they can to sign Bernier and get a couple D men in trades or free agency.
Ultimately though like when he was in Calgary Phaneuf has priced himself out of future plans.
BTW I love Phaneuf’s physical game and if he would have worked harder on his defensive game when he was younger he may have been in that upper class but coulda woulda shoulda does nothing for the Leafs now.
Bottom line is the Leafs need to do whatever they can to free up that cash so they can go shopping.
Do the math on cap hits, what are the cap hiton Weber and Suter if you take the total value of their contracts and spread it over 7 years compared to the length of the contract they signed during the previous cba. I am not arguing Phaneuf is a overpaid Ive said it before, but experts like yourself who cant differentiate between 10 plus year contracts and 7 year deals or RFAs vs UFAs are not worth the effort.
Schticky this is 100% about the money.
The league, news, and players association are all screaming thow small the CAP increases is going to be and that it will cause HUGE issues. This is not a sellers market based on that. In a normal year Phaneuf would be moved easily but not this one.
If the Leafs are to move forward Phaneuf has to be dealt. To be dealt the Leafs are going to have to pay to move him because with the exception of 5-6 teams everybody will be tight to the cap.
The price of another team absorbing a contract will be steep.
If it was not steep both Richards and Phaneuf would have been moved by now.
Problem with a cap system is there is a finite amount of money in the league.
PS.
The cost is only going to get higher as the draft approaches. LA, CHI, and Bos have to clear about 6-7 Mil a piece to get the signings done they need to do to be competitive. (Why do you think Sharp, Lucic, and Dustin Brown get mentioned a lot?)
NYR, TB, Pit, Was, Mtl, StL, and SJ all would like to shed 2-4 M to sign RFA’s and free agents.
A number of these teams are also very worried about offer sheets this year in regards to RFA’s Galchenyuk, Toffoli, Hamilton, Kuznetsov, and many others could be plucked away for what some GM’s would think to be a deal.
Teams are therefore trying not to put themselves in a precarious situation because if they ride too close to the cap an elite prospect could be taken.
MacDonald Streit Markov Orpik Green Niskanen Nikitin all 5.5-6 mill cap hits Again yes 7 mill is an overpay for Phaneuf but he would be in the same ball park as most of these guys at least….you can spout off about the sky is falling for some capped out teams all you want but they put themselves there, contracts go up just like the cap will over time. Contracts are not going to suddenly start to roll back because the cap only goes up a mill, you are shortsighted, amd acting like the sky is falling Subban just signed a 9 mill per uear why not compare his cap hit to Weber how 8ver paid is he? How bout Toews to Sid, you cant just pick and choose comtracts to show a gross imballance and then say a few teams that are capped out are in trouble so no one is going to risk that type of contract. In my kind of imagined trade thing the Stars would be moving out more money that would play less than Phaneuf on any given night…the Stars have the cap space for Dion, No one is saying the Leafs are trading Phaneuf to the Hawks Kings or Bruins…give your head a shake.
I gave my head a shake. I still see that you got to take your head out of the clouds and look at reality.
Those that do have cap space are waiting to exploit those that do not for their own personal gain to make their team as good as it can be. (Got to love capitalism and its predictability.)
Trevling in Calgary, Murray in Ottawa, Don Maloney in Phoenix, and David Poile in Nashville are going have the largest advantage in years to fill in the gaps this summer by taking on bad contracts for juicy draft picks and prospects.
Now do you honestly think they are going to waste that opportunity?
The only hope you have is that the Preds have a major D injury in the next month or it is going to cost the Leafs more.
All teams that will be buying will be doing so with the best interest of their club in mind. They are going to make the teams short on money pay with prospects and draft picks for the use of the services rendered.
The other option of course is on June 15 when the Leafs can waive then buy out Phaneuf’s contract at 2/3 its value. That will give you 2-3 million more on average per season towards the cap hit.
Jeezus buy out Phaneuf a year after you signed your captain to an extension….ya thats a swell way to guarantee another ufa never comes to Toronto…think about what you are saying Russ. There are teams making inquiries about Phaneuf and you are suggesting instead of desling with one of them they should consider buying him out to save 33% of his caphit? WTF are you thinking they could hold 50% of his deal how many teams have interest in Phaneuf for 3.5 mill? That saves them even more than 1/3 of his deal and having a 4.75 cap hit for the next12 years. Ya I am the one with my head in the clouds, youre right.
He nevers said just for picks…READ:
Shticky said:
“haneuf getting traded somehow, maybe for no return other than bad contracts that comes off the books in the next year or 2 and a 2nd or third round pick…just for the capspace. Phaneuf for Horcoff & Hemsky and a 2nd or 3rd kind of thing.”
Clearly he states taking back not one, but two bad contracts.
Now there’s a deal that maked sense for both Toronto and Dallas. Playing in the anonymity of Dallas, no “C” and switching from a 3/4 pairing to games here and there as a 1/2 could be just the thing to rejuvenate Phaneuf, while the Leafs get a couple of contracts that will run out long before Phaneuf’s.
As patient as the Jets have been-I can not see them trading Jane at the deadline. I can see them maximizing their return at the draft. How about this one-Brayden Schenn plus the flyers #1 (probably 6-12th pick)
Kane is going to push the issue and Winnipeg will be pressured to do something by the deadline.
Cheveldayoff will move him to get rid of the drama in the dressing room so the team can concentrate on getting into the post season.
kane and 3rd and 5th to philly for the schenns and read
Wow…do you actually know anything to do with the Flyers? or do you just spout off what you have read?
The Flyers are screwed for the next 2-3 years due to the crappy , overly long contracts handed out by Homer.
They are glued to the cap ceiling for at least the next 2 years, unless they can shed at least 3 contracts.
The Flyers also have 4 blue chip defence prospects in the minors…Sanheim, Ghost, Morin and Hagg. All four are projected to be top 4 guys at least. Sanheim looks awesome in Calgary, and has all the tools, size, skating to be a true number one.
What the Flyers need is to rid themselves of some of the contracts they have…like Coburn, Grossmann, Lecavalier, Umberger, Read, possibly both Schenns, not adding to the cap hit, when the rest of the team is poorly built, and the pieces don’t fit for their current positions.
I would love to see Kane come to Philly, and feel he would fill a huge hole on the top 6. The Flyers are weak at forward. You hear all the time about the Flyers forward depth….where?
We have multiple European league “finds”…Bellamare, Raffl..etc.
Next to Voracek and Giroux, we have no true top line winger to play with them.
We have way too many centres..Giroux, Lecavalier, Schenn, Bellamare, Couturier, Laughton and not enough true wingers.
The whole team is poorly constructed.
I would love to see a Kane for the Schenns swap. Salary works..within $400000, and all three contracts are similar in end date.
Hextall is not trading his picks or prospects for quick fixes. This is a long term plan for the team, and stupid, rash decisions are not being made any more.
Maybe research some facts before spouting off.
Well said Gary! Give it to him!
These are the same types of fans who also chide Mason. Mason, who has done nothing but play like a #1 goalie for the 100 (yes 100!) games he’s played in orange and black.
I don’t think the Flyers current situation is as doom-and-gloom as it would appear. I think Coburn and possibly another d-man could be traded away in the next 3 weeks. More work to shed salary will continue this summer. And yes, the prized Flyer prospects are getting closer to arriving.
You also have to pleasantly suprised by the strong play of Schultz and Del Zotto. I expect both to be on the Flyers’ blueline next season. Could the top 6 consist of Schultz, Del Zotto, MacDonald, Schenn, Streit and Morin next October? I think so.
I have said this before-majority of the posters here claim all the Flyers besides G and Vorachek are garbage. On the Flyers Simmonds is a depth forward-on the leafs he is a top 3.
Great analysis.
I threw it out there before:
What about schenn bros for phaenuf or franson as the basis of a trade
you could add lecaviler, kadri, prospects, pick swap, draft picks, bad salaries…if needed
I think it helps both teams and is somewhat feasible. Plus bad teams trade with bad teams, as they don’t get full value with underachievers.
BTW It’s not like phaneuf sucks and schenns are elite and young…,just an idea
Not a chance that happens.
L Schenn has been in Toronto and was basically run out of town.
The Flyers would have no interest in Dion at that price, and full salary. Dion is ok, but just is not worth $7 million per year.I don’t buy into Shticky’s reasoning that in 2 years it will be an ok contract. It is too much for the flaws in his game. With the falling Canadian dollar, the cap may only go up if the players enforce the 5% raise. Contracts like Phaneuf’s could severely impact a teams ability to make moves if the dollar continues to fall. The Flyers are going to have to resign Voracek, as he signed a 4 year extension in 2012 during Phaneuf’s contract, and that would put 3 players earning over $21 million. Mason signed a new contract last year for 3 years, so he too will be up for a new contract That would be well over 25 million for 4 guys….no way that happens. It just won’t work, and that’s just dealing with the contract, not the player.
Philly will be in a bigger rebuild than Toronto. They have dmen in the minors that will be ready in a few years…and Dion will be in the way…both in salary and on the ice. Hextall has come out and said he will not trade young players/ prospects and picks, as he believes they are the building blocks for any team.
The only trades Philly is interested in is trading their own overpriced players. They are sellers, not buyers, and I believe they could get a better return from the other 28 teams in the league than saddling themselves with Phaneuf for the next 6 years.
Sabres can offer Jets two number ones as well as D.Stafford and T. Mitchell for Kane. The Jets may need to add a second as well as the rights to Bumistrov
Why would the Sabres do that? Two firsts for a guy who has topped 20 goals once, and has discipline issues?! I’d rather keep Stewart (who is essentially the same player minus the discipline/primadonna issues) and a little older.
Murray wants to move up with those two picks (NYI and St. L) but would rather have an established player who can play in the league right now. Stewart will not resign and will test free agency. The Sabres would rather have the youth and have these prospects mature together. The rebuild will take another 3-4 years and Stewart will be 30 years old.
Kings desperate for a trade. T. Myers, second in ’15 and J. Enroth to LA for N. Shore, V. Zykov, A. Kempe and M. Jones. Lombardi probably not comfortable with Jones and Enroth would be insurance for Quick with playoff run. Upon Pearson’s return Shore would be sent down and no one from the LA’s current roster would be traded except for Jones. If Enroth would not be resigned Berube would be the backup next year.
Can Kane fetch much more than Turris did?
Turris fetched a 2nd rd draft pick and David Rundblad who at the time was a pretty highly regarded 1st rd d prospect.
Turris is also a Centre. Is Kane?
The rumor mill has it that the Jets would be willing to accept a single top asset. Meaning first line or a darn good second line asset.
I think you would be looking at a Kessel, Eberle, Brayden Schenn type of player.
Winnipeg is looking for help now not prospects for the future for Kane.
Put the glue bottle down russ how is Brayden Schenn even in the same sentance as Eberle and Kessel?
Its simple Shticky.
Scenario 1: The Jets don’t mind throwing in a draft pick so they sweeten the pot a lot for Eberle and a little for Phil.
Scenario 2: The Jets gamble Schenn is a product of a bad environment, feel cheep and would rather a 2nd or a 3rd round pick come back their way in addition to Schenn.
To the Jets;
Clarkson
Kadri
Gardiner
To the Leafs;
Kane
Enstrom
Clitsome
No way in hell.
Kadri is the only good piece from Toronto, and the other 2 are salary dumps.
Salary dumps are not getting Kane.
I have to agree with Gary here, even as a Leaf fan I don’t see this happening.
Perhaps Gardiner + Winnik/Santorelli, and even that’s questionable…
Forgot to mention for Kane alone
That’s the best you think the Jets can do for a top 6 forward, who is young and signed for multiple years to an ok contract.
Think more of a player, pick and a prospect, or a couple of real full time players.
The 2 ufa’s mentioned, plus a guy paid 2x what he is worth will not cut it for Kane.
Honestly I dont see Kane ever being a Leaf, camt see how it would work…maybe a bigger deal where the Leafs gave up Kessel for Kane plus a little more bit thats about it, Kessel a later pick or prospect for Enstrom or Bogo and Kane somewhere in there, other than that just cant see it.
And I am not trying to over value Kessel, just I cant see with how wide the gap is in production that anything else really makes sense, yes Kane has potential but he could also be a huge gong show in TO.
Aww, come ON! The overpaid, long-term stiff Clarkson, the overpaid giveaway artist D Gardiner and motor-mouth knock-me-over-with-a-feather Kadri for Kane And Clitsome and Enstrom??? Holy crap.
Hey Lyle from my time watching hockey I have noted two main responses when it comes to trade rumours and player responses.
Either the Player is unhappy in their current situation and demand/ask for a trade or they always say they don’t want to be traded whether or not they are happy or not. Only late in their careers do they come out and say something like. “If it is best for the team I am willing to move on.”
As such Neil’s situation is no different and not surprising at all. The media can ask him all they want if he is willing to be traded. His response will always be no I am happy here. Such a response saves face with the current fan base. Behind closed doors he can indicate to Murray his willingness to be moved but that is kept quiet while the organization and PR department do their job to make the move as something beneficial to the club.
That is what is currently happening with Neil and Phillips. When ever they are asked if they are willingly to be moved I know the response will be no they are happy in Ottawa. I never believe for an instance they won’t be willing to move. They can be happy and move on. Only behind closed doors will they admit they prefer to be moved and even then it is likely not a preference but simply a willingness to have the opportunity to win a cup.
Totally agree!
There is always the behind the scenes talk between a veteran player and his organization about moving them, so they can have the chance to win the cup.
When Ryan Miller left last year, you knew he loved Buffalo and Buffalo had the money to keep him. Miller had tears in his eyes when he left, but I bet that was all left behind after his first Blues game. Of course he crapped out there, so that’s that!
Point is – Neil and Phillips deserve a shot at the cup again. Not a fan of Ottawa, but the way Neil plays – he deserves to play into the spring with a Stanley cup team… Or trade him to Buffalo and I’d put him on a line with Stewart and Kaleta! That would be a line!
While Tyler Myers and Chris Stewart are two names in play in Buffalo, I think many others are in play.
Cody Hodgson and Torrey Mitchell at Center. Why – Buffalo has Reinhart and Grigorenko coming up next year. Plus maybe a McDavid…. And get some VETERAN LEADERSHIP AT CENTER. See below – get Richards.
I don’t know the contract status/no trade clause, but I have no idea why we’d hold onto Gionta. I’d dump him and put take a chance on Mike Richards. I think his help at center is more valuable than Gionta’s. Also on right wing, I see Stafford going. I’ll go against everyone and say keep Stewart!
Benoit, Gorges, Meszaros, Webber all need to go. There is some value there for a club wanting a veteran for a playoff run and probably on the cheap. Tyler Myers chances of leaving are 50/50. Buffalo has Ruhwedel, McCabe, and Pysyk they have to make a call on soon (they played enough Amerks games to be in or out for Buffalo). If I was Buffalo I’d dump all that I’ve mentioned and get O’Reilly and bring back Brian Campbell.
Flames have a good core. Just need one more to play on the third line. Like Martin Gillian or Chris King or Chris Neel.