Latest on Shane Doan, Cam Talbot, and what it would take to trade the first-overall pick in this year’s NHL draft.
Could this season be Shane Doan’s last with the Coyotes?
Doan finds Coyotes season “kind of embarassing.”
NBC SPORTS: Mike Halford cites comments made by Arizona Coyotes captain Shane Doan to the blog Mayor’s Manor regarding his embarrassment and disappointment over how this season is turning out for the club. Halford noted Doan didn’t say if he wanted to be dealt in the offseason but he also didn’t rule out the possibility.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Doan is being coy about his future plans. I think he and Maloney will meet in the offseason to determine if he wants to remain part of the Coyotes plans or perhaps consider a move to a Cup contender.
Highlights from Jim Matheson’s latest “Short Shifts.”
EDMONTON JOURNAL: Jim Matheson reports it was expected the Detroit Red Wings might pursue and possibly sign Jeff Petry but consensus is they passed because rookie Alexey Marchenko can do the job for 15 percent of Petry’s possible salary next season. The Wings may have been shopping Jakub Kindl ($2.4 million per season) but the Oilers obviously weren’t interested in him…Matheson doubts the Oilers can pry Cam Talbot away from the NY Rangers by offering up their additional first-round pick in this year’s draft. He suggests Ottawa’s Robin Lehner could be a trade option for the Oilers if the Senators re-sign Andrew Hammond.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: I think there will be serious interest in Talbot this summer, though it remains to be seen if the Rangers will move him. It could come down to cap space for the Blueshirts. If the Senators re-sign Hammond this summer they’ll have to move a goalie and Lehner could be the odd man out.
What’s the possible asking price for this year’s first overall pick?
ESPN.COM: Craig Custance doubts whichever team lands the first overall pick in this year’s draft will be willing to trade it. Still, he muses over what kind of offer it might take to land it. Such an offer would have to include a young superstar. Another option is whoever has the number 2 pick could try to package it with some young talent for the first overall selection. Custance suggests the only real comparable to land that pick would be the return the Quebec Nordiques received in 1992 from the Philadelphia Flyers for Eric Lindros.
THE BUFFALO NEWS: John Vogl took to Twitter to report TVA Sports’ Louis Jean claimed Buffalo Sabres GM Tim Murray is willing to move his second first-round pick.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Whoever wins the lottery won’t be trading the pick. They won’t give up the opportunity to land a potential franchise player and superstar like Connor McDavid.
IF McDavid wasn’t generally perceived as a franchise player a la Crosby, Stamkos, Tavares and IF he wasn’t a C … then maybe whoever wins the lottery would consider a deal. But he’s both and so there’s no way any GM would have the gonads to deal that pick.
Wow…
Tyvm for that nugget
LOL
A $5,300,000 cap hit next season is a lot to pay for a guy who’ll be 39 when the season starts and whose “best before” date has long passed. Hard to see which cup contender – all of whom are smack up against the cap – would clear space for Doan.
Maybe not a cup contender exactly but a good young team that could be close to taking that next step and reaching the playoffs…once youre in ya never know. Panthers, Sabres, Oilers….teams that should be wrapping up their 10 year plans.
Doan was a 35 year old UFA in 2012 and was courted by a number of contenders but he chose to use their interest in him to leverage a 4 year contract from the Coyotes. File this under “you made your bed …”
Doan had his chance, he wanted to raise horses and took a bigger contract with more term then he should have from Arizona. I don’t see anyone shelling out assets for him unless Arizona holds a good chunk of salary.
Winnipeg should bring him back. Fitting for a guy who only played for the one franchise.
You all know fully well what would happen if Doan tried to get out of ‘Zona…. “Mantracker” would hunt him down like a mangy dawg! LOL!
Red Wings trade Anthony Mantha, Xavier Ouelet, 2 first rounders. for The #1 overall pick
In your dreams maybe.
LOL, What are you smokin’……..
Red Wings trade Anthony Mantha, Xavier Ouelet, 2 first rounders. for The #1 overall pick.
Also in the news , Oilers win Western Conference final to advance to face Maple Leafs in 2016 Stanley Cup Finals.
If I’m Ken Holland, I wouldn’t hesitate more than 5 seconds to make that trade if offered.
The only way that trade would get offered to the Red Wings is if the team holding #1 hires Mike Milbury as president and somehow that towns water supply gets contaminated with copious amounts of Ambien…
Heh pass it this way
LOL
First overalls dont get traded in the weakest of draft years, its almost a non story speculating about what it would take this year, none of the top 5 picks will be available I doubt.
With the seeming never ending ammount of quality goalies around and some of their stories, Talbot Jones Lehner Enroth Dubnyk Hammond Halak Bernier Markstrom…. I fail to see the point in locking goalies up to long term contracts. There is always some quality laying around somewhere and aquired relatively easy enough, and Niemmi is proof you dont need a Vezzna to win a cup. (It helps no question but…) Few guys are Price Renne Quick or Lundqvist.
Cause that never ending list have put up so many great numbers and been able to stick as a starter?? Geezuz enough with the dumb comments
Ya cause those goalies have put up such great numbers and been able to stick as the start?? Geezus enough with the dumb comments
They have all got better numbers than Mike Smith, hows Backstom or Lehtonen worked out? Pavlec really is earning that contract isnt he? IS Niemmi is fanstastic? Did I miss the memo? Who is playing in Vancouver Lack or Miller? Cam Ward has been a wonderful contract for the Canes aswell….
Some obvious examples that Bryzgalov and Dipietro…but of course jello is right.
….and another dumb comment out of shtickys mouth keep thinking the leafs coulda got Ritchie for franson straight up!! lmao
Don’t forget to add Nic Backstrom to the list of goalies available this summer when we buy him out, terrible contract and signed in desperation when our goalie situation went south last summer.
I say this quite honestly, Doan would be a good piece for the Oilers to look in to.
The leafs need doan more than the oilers do they have no leadership what so ever in that locker room
While Doan might consider authorizing a trade somewhere in the off season, it will NOT be either Edmonton or Toronto. Not at this stage of his career.
The Avs is another spot I could see him being an option…as I said just a young team that is on the edge of taking that next step…not the typical contender.
The Avs have Iginla to mentor the young players who IMO is better than Doan in every aspect of the game. The thing holding the Avs back is D and goaltending, not leadership.
Anaheim Boston
I disagree
Much is being made about those first two picks and rightly so. But there’s at least 2 or 3 very intriguing centers who’s name’s aren’t McDavid or Eichel, in this draft.
The value here is for a team picking 10-15th..to make a more reasonable package and get the 5-8th pick.
Now that’s something I could see happening leading up to the draft.
I agree…and with the amount of attention the centers are getting (and rightly so, because Marner and Strome are very good) the D that will be available between 5-10 are going to be very good aswell.
marner will be the bust of this years draft
Gotta agree…idk why but my gut says the same thing
If history has taught me anything its to trust your gut!
I think its way to early to be predicting busts, but Id say Strome is the more risky pick, Ive seen him a few times this year, and he dosent skate very well. The game I seen him when McDavid was hurt, and he was on the top line and when not playing second line mins, wasnt great….who knows, Marmer plays on a loaded line so maybe.
marner is a way riskier pick by far than strome
If the coyotes get #1 and sabres get #2, does Arizona swap picks with buffalo if the sabres give them next years 1st? Gives them Eichel plus an extra pick towards the Matthews draft.
That’s an intriguing thought. But in the end I doubt it very much. McDavid is far and away THE # 1 pick (unlike, say, the Hall-Seguin draft where they were regarded as 1/2 either way) and while I think Eichel is very good – from what I’ve been sable to see of him – he is a U.S. college player where they play maybe 2 games a week and against much weaker opposition than the top OHL teams where they play 80-odd games, often 3 nights in a row. That alone better prepares a top Major Junior pick for the rigors of the NHL. If Arizona wins the lottery bet on McDavid going there. Franchise players don’t come along all that often and he’s one for sure – not so certain that Eichel will be such a player.
NCAA is older n more mature players. CHL may be talented but NCAA is full bodied players. Disregarding so casually is a mistake. Kesler Gaudreau Bjugstad to name a few
Oh, I’m not “disregarding” Eichel and the U.S. college system – just that the overall competition for the top U.S. college teams is nowhere near as intense as it is in the OHL, Q, and WHL nor is it as physically demanding. As I said, that alone does prepare a Major Junior player much better for the grind that is the NHL.
George: You should really try watching some NCAA hockey…based on your characterization of it, it’s clear that you don’t. Canadian junior definitely has way more skill players, but the physicality isn’t even close. WHL maybe, but the Q is loaded with undersized players that would get tossed around in D1.
J, I didn’t even notice the physicality in most of the games I’ve watched. And the difference between the few good teams and mediocre teams is substantial. They may be older and physically mature but the speed and skill of Junior is superior. If they were on the same level, would there not be a higher percentage of college players playing in the NHL?
But there isn’t, and it’s because the majority of the best players go to the CHL therefore that league will be better for development.
If that’s not enough, this guy writes a pretty convincing article
http://hockeyfamilyadvisor.com/northern-junior-hockey-watch-chl-vs-ncaa-2/
Why would the Oilers “obviously” not be interested in Jakub Kindl?
They clearly have a tough time attracting NHL level d-men in the UFA market. And if you want to argue that, please give me another reason to justify why Nikitin and Fayne both have $3.5m or higher cap hits… Kindl would arguably be an upgrade over those two and they wouldn’t have to overpay.
Holland is shopping the lower contract of Kindl for a reason.
No advantage for the Oilers to get him.
I can make the same argument with the Leafs. 4m for Gardiner n 7m for Phaneuf n traded the D man i liked best Franson.
Kindl is not a Leaf.
7m for D vs 11m big diff.
4m for a liability like Gardiner
Gardiner has been better lately, has not had near as many give aways since Carlyle was fired. Imo Rielly and him have been pretty good. Dion not so much, Brewer Erixon Brennan terrible, McWilliam actually kind of impressed me, more than I figured he would anyway.
Oilers odds on favourite to pick either 1/2 of McEichel. Both will step right into the line-up next season
1 C RNH
2 C McEichel
3 C Draisaitl maybe or soon
Thats an impressive down the middle n will help to sign UFA D men. Problem is no Top D go on the market these days.
Nurse is seasoning but the draft is still needed to mine D.
Add to that Hall n Eberle n Yak
with a 4th line of chatacter vets with Boyd Gordon. Goal is really where MacT needs to fill.
Sorry Oil, if there’s one team who doesn’t deserve that pick it’s you guys. Enough whiffs on #1 overall. Don’t forget, Buffalo slipped from #1 to #2 last year, missing Eckblad. The hockey gods owe them this year.
Here’s what the Jets would have to give up to be comparable to the Lindros trade. Would probably have to include either Trouba or Morrissey in place of either Enstrom or Postma and perhaps Petan in place of Kosmachuk.
Scott Kosmachuk Chris Simon
Mark Scheifele Mike Ricci
Paul Postma Kerry Huffman
Ondrej Pavelec Ron Hextall
Nikolaj Ehlers Peter Forsberg
Tobias Enstrom Steve Duchesne
1st rd pick in 2016 1st rd 1993
1st rd pick in 2017 1st rd in 1994
Futures Futures
Retain some of Pav or Cash
Enstroms salary
As great as that no.1 pick would be, I am not sure Id give up Elhers Trouba Sheifele and 2 firsts…but I agree thats probably what the Jets would be looking at.