Would the Sedin Twins waive their no-movement clauses for the right opportunity? Should the Sharks keep shopping for a defenseman? Find out in your NHL rumor mill.
Would the Sedins agree to a trade?
Would the Sedins consider waiving their no-movement clauses?
NBC SPORTS: Jason Brough cites a reports in the Swedish newspaper Expressen asking Vancouver Canucks stars Daniel and Henrik Sedin if they would consider a trade if asked by management. The twins stated they have no intention of finishing their careers with another NHL team, but Brough notes they didn’t outright say they wouldn’t waive their no-movement clauses if the Canucks asked them to, particularly in the final season of their contracts in 2017-18. Brough speculates calls for a drastic rebuild in Vancouver will increase if the Canucks miss the playoffs next season.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Don’t expect the Canucks to ask the Sedins to waive their movement clauses this summer. I also doubt they’ll be approached about it during the season, even if the it appears the Canucks could miss the playoffs. Beyond next season, however, is another matter, especially if management decides to make a significant shakeup.
Moving both Sedins, however, won’t be easy, as they’re unlikely to accept any deal that splits them apart. Finding a club with the cap space to absorb both contracts (combined cap hit of $14 million) won’t be easy, especially if future cap ceiling increases are marginal.
Could the Sharks add a defenseman?
CSNBAYAREA.COM: Responding to reader e-mails regarding the San Jose Sharks blueline, Kevin Kurz suggests they would be wise to add an depth defenseman. However, he notes cap space could be an issue, as they’re currently about $1 million under the cap ceiling. Kurz feels they could get some additional cap space if injured forward Raffi Torres ($2 million) is unable to play, and if blueliner Mirco Mueller starts the season in the minors.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: If they do add an affordable depth blueliner, I’m assuming it’ll be via free agency. Options could include Andrej Meszaros, Jordan Leopold, Mike Weaver, John Erskine, Tim Gleason, David Schlemko and Anton Volchenkov.
Highly doubt the twins get traded. I believe their cap hit is around 12 million for the pair. It would be tough to move that money in a cap world.
In other news, I’m hearing big things in leaf land. Something is happening today 🙂
Any chance you can give details on the Leaf news???? or do we have a troll in our midst???
Wow. Lou Lamorello is the new GM of the leafs. That is awful.
Agreed with MikeyJ, this is hilariously bad news for Leafs fans
Lou is 72 – don’t think he will be bringing new things to Tronna. Take at look at his drafts the past 15 years – the genius only has Zajak and Parise to show for his first round prizes. heck, you could look back to 1996 for that matter.
Not sure how this will help the Leafs. I really thought they were angling for Stevie y and the hope he might bring Stamkos with him to Tronna next season.
I guess Cliff Fletcher said no.
Probably the news of Lamoriello as new GM.
Anyways to stay on topic, Mikeyj the Sedins cap hit is $14 million, which yes will be very hard to move.
Guess the hiring of Lou Lamoriello was the big news. Now how did you know about something that big on the QT?
Friends at MLSE said there was a frenzy of people this morning working on something. I guess Shanny felt the need to hire they guy who drafted him? So I’m assuming Lou is just a guy to sit in the chair while decisions are made through him. What a good little puppet he will be. I’m assuming that’s why no one took the job in the first place. The candidates new that they would not have control.
Canucks miss the playoffs this upcoming season and then try and move two 35 year olds with a combined $14 million in cap hit… Well, good luck with that.
Unfortunately, too many mistakes have been made in Vancouver and the Sedins and Canucks are going nowhere until those deals expire in two years. After that, the rebuild can start.
If they get it all right, it’s possible they could be contenders again early next decade.
leafs canucks cup final 2026 eh dan39!! lol
If the twins ever get traded, it will be likely as expiring contracts at the trade deadline when their cap hit will be as low at it can get.
Add Franson to list of D for SJ.
Only if he’s willing to accept less than $2 million, depending upon what happens with Torres and Mueller. That’s why I left him off the list. He’s likely too expensive for the Sharks.
Agreed. They’d have to send someone to minors to make space. $6.5M over two years seems fair.
Lou Lamoriello just named Leafs GM… not too thrilled about this. Sure he did well for the team *PRE*-cap. He couldn’t manage the cap though and his team just started sinking and still haven’t recovered.
*moleman voice* I was saying Looooo-urns.
….ahhh crap
Lou is the best thing Shanny has done since he arrived. Toronto will instantly become a defensive minded hard checking low scoring team which wins championships. It would have been a little smarter hiring Lou first and letting him decide if he wanted Babcock. As someone mentioned early this is either the dream team or a recipe for anarchy.
Lou and Babcock working together with Shanny overseeing things? Really? I don’t know about this setup at all but I guess we are all going to find out.
It’s got the potential of either brilliance or anarchy. Guess we shall see
I’d say the Sedin rumor is strange on many levels, other than the obvious cap issue. First of all, them saying they had no intention of finishing their careers for another NHL team, and then turning around and saying “they didn’t outright say they wouldn’t waive the nmc” seems like a bit of a stretch….and a guy desperate (Brough) to make a rumor where there isn’t one.
My 2nd thought is……”The right situation”. To me that would mean a contender for guys at this stage of their careers. Unless the right situation means, they want to be a part of a rebuild? I doubt that.
My final thought….. “a contender”…..What true “contender” would really feel the need to mess with TWO of their top 6 forwards in one deal? That doesn’t sound like a contender at all to me. It sounds more like a team that NEEDS two top 6 forwards to even be a “contender”.
Fire away folks.
If there is a team that has an amazing first line and cap space and a way to make the Sedins their second line, that team becomes a Stanley cup threat…….just don’t know what team that would be. Maybe Florida in a year?
The only thing teams can do with a possible expansion draft next year to free up money is leave players that have unfriendly contracts or high value contracts exposed to the draft and hope that one of the other teams pick them up. Not saying that Canucks do that with the twins and honestly would be foolish to do so without getting compensation in that move at all. But this is the golden opportunity for teams to rid themselves of bad contracts, ageing players, and especially those that have no movement clauses that don’t fit into team structure any longer. Like I said there is no compensation for losing the player that I know of, but sometimes freeing up the cap space and spot on the roster is compensation enough.
Yeah the Sharks need to add another defenseman now after losing Irwin. Franson & Ehrhoff are still out there.
I have to believe that the Sedins control their own destiny. There family have been raised and schooled in Vcr. Apprently their visits to Sweden are down to a minimum, see their parents/grandparents. Plus Daniel has just finished building a custom house. henrik said it gets harder and harder to leave Vcr in the summer, after the kids are out of school. I just can’t see it, maybe at the end of their contract to a SC bound team but I’d doubt they’d resign with that team. Exteremly family orientated form what I hear
I think NYR would be a good place/opportunity for the Sedins
I hope you’re joking…..14 million in cap space to take on the Sedins? Who is going back the other way? Mcdonagh, Staal, and Stepan?
Yea cause that’s what the Rangers need two more old men. I’m hoping they’ve learned their lesson signing old men like Msl and Boyle. And what is it with these two guys having to play on the same team? Ridiculous.
Dan39 is a troll!!!
The Canucks are better off than you think.. Lots of promising prospects and the Sedins are still at a point per game pace in their careers.
I know a retool is frowned upon across the league but anything is possible.. People always say there are no short cuts, until they find one!!!!!!!!!
Let’s just put it this way.. I feel better about the Canucks than I do about the leafs
so you are that confident in Ryan Miller and the Nucks’ defense? I am curious to see what you think of their back end.
You’d probably feel better about your johnson getting caught in the zipper than you do about the Leafs. Not exactly a great endorsement.
Sharks would be looking for a right handed offensive defenseman. Trade seems more likely at this point if the young players don’t step up but I could see Doug Wilson bringing in a vet as a camp invite or signing someone to a cheap contract for depth. Židlický is a name that interests me, someone who can bring offense.
Sedin’s are going nowhere. Too much money for any one team to absorb. And it’s pointless to take back bad contracts….they only have a couple of seasons left on their deal. As for how good the team will be? It’s my expectation that they will be fighting it out for that last playoff spot as the team begins it’s transition to younger players. I’m alright with that. I’d rather have Horvat, Virtanen, Shinkaruk and other kids playing games that are competitive and have meaning to them even if they wind up on the outside looking in. Miller is still a solid goalie (if he can stay healthy…big IF), and the d-corps is at least good enough to keep the team in the middle of the pack in goals against. I guess we’ll see how it all shakes out. Can’t wait for the season to start 🙂