It’s NHL Trade Deadline Day. Check out the latest noable trade rumors and speculations.
THE NHL TRADE DEADLINE IS 3 PM ET TODAY.
LIST OF POTENTIAL TRADE CANDIDATES.
Mikkel Boedker is expected to be among several players on the move before today’s 3 pm ET trade deadline.
NJ.com: presents a list of the top-25 players who could be on the trade block today. Among the notables are the usual suspects (Boston Bruins right wing Loui Eriksson, Columbus Blue Jackets left wing Scott Hartnell, Tampa Bay Lightning left wing Jonathan Drouin, Arizona Coyotes winger Mikkel Boedker, Vancouver Canucks defenseman Dan Hamhuis, Calgary Flames blueliner Kris Russell) as well as some names we haven’t heard much of in speculation leading up to today (Minnesota Wild defenseman Jonas Brodin, Pittsburgh Penguins winger Chris Kunitz, Vancouver Canucks winger Alex Burrows, New Jersey Devils defenseman Eric Gelinas, Buffalo Sabres left wing Marcus Foligno).
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Check out the full list at the link above. I doubt Kunitz and Burrows are dealt today as they’re expensive and past their prime.. Brodin (foot injury) recently returned to practice and could be back in action in a week’s time. There was some talk earlier this month speculating he could be trade bait for a scoring forward.
LATEST ON THE FLYERS AND MAPLE LEAFS.
CSNPHILLY.COM: Tim Riday lists forwards Sam Gagner, Matt Read and Ryan White, along with defensemen Mark Streit, Evgeny Medvedev, Nick Schultz and Radko Gudas as possible trade candidates for draft picks and futures. Longshots include R.J. Umberger, Andrew MacDonald, Brayden Schenn and Michal Neuvirth.
PHILLY.COM: Sam Carchidi reports Flyers GM Ron Hextall doesn’t want to trade draft picks or youth for a rental player. Carchidi speculates Matt Read, Mark Streit, and Nick Schultz “are probably expendable” if the right deal comes along, and doubts Hextall pursues Tampa Bay’s Jonathan Drouin or Arizona’s Mikkel Boedker unless he can get them cheaply
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Hextall claims he’s not deviating from rebuilding the Flyers, which means he won’t bring in a rental unless it’s for a very affordable price. I can’t see Streit being moved as I doubt there’s many takers for an aging blueliner with a year remaining on his contract worth over $5 million.
TORONTO SUN: Rob Longley speculates trade talks involving Maple Leafs winger P.A. Parenteau could go right down to the wire today. Parenteau also assured reporters the neck issues he suffered during Saturday’s game against the Montreal Canadiens won’t affect his ability to play after the deadline.
NBC SPORTS: Joey Alferi cited a reports by TSN’s Gary Lawless claiming the Leafs were working on a deal that would send Parenteau to the New York Islanders, but the Leafs asking price of a second-round pick is holding things up as the Isles don’t want to pay that price…yet.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: I expect Parenteau will get dealt today, and he could fetch a second-round pick from the Islanders or another playoff contender in need of affordable offensive depth.Considering the returns the Leafs got for their recent moves, a second rounder for Parenteau seems likely.
UPDATES ON DROUIN.
SPORTSNET: Jeff Simmons cites colleague Chris Johnston reporting last night the Tampa Bay Lightning are trying hard to trade Jonathan Drouin for a return that can help them now. He also feels the Leafs can get a second-round pick for P.A. Parenteau and believes the Florid Panthers aren’t done dealing in the aftermath of their three-player acquisitions over the weekend.
OTTAWA SUN: Bruce Garrioch reports chances are slim the Ottawa Senators acquire Jonathan Drouin, as the Lightning’s asking price is too high for Sens GM Bryan Murray. “It’s believed the initial ask was for defenceman Cody Ceci while the names of prospects Thomas Chabot or Colin White have been mentioned.” Garrioch also reports the Senators have a mild interest in Edmonton Oilers right wing Nail Yakupov, plus they’re believed shopping defenceman Patrick Wiercioch and winger Shane Prince”
SPECTOR’S NOTE: A Drouin trade is possible but not a certainty. The Lightning want something that helps them now and in the future. Players like Drouin are rarely available at the trade deadline and the Bolts can afford to wait until this summer for a better offer.
OTHER NOTABLE RUMORS AND SPECULATION.
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH: The Blue Jackets are still reportedly dangling left wing Scott Hartnell and defenseman Fedor Tyutin, but their contracts (“Hartnell carries a $4.75 million salary-cap hit, and he’s signed through 2018-19, Tyutin carries a $4.5 million hit, and he’s signed through 2017-18.”) could prove tough to move.
THE PROVINCE: It remains to be seen if the Vancouver Canucks will trade veteran defenseman Dan Hamhuis, who’s commanded interest from the Dallas Stars and Boston Bruins. Hamhuis’ preference is to remain with the Canucks, but he recently suggested the Stars would be a suitable destination.
CALGARY SUN: Recent trade chatter has linked Flames defenseman Kris Russell to the “Boston Bruins, Dallas Stars, Los Angeles Kings, Pittsburgh Penguins and others.” The asking price is reportedly two second-round draft picks.
THE BUFFALO NEWS: The Florida Panthers and Los Angeles Kings reportedly had interest in Sabres left wing Jamie McGinn, who might fetch a second- or third-round pick.
PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE: After acquiring defenseman Justin Schultz from Edmonton over the weekend, Penguins GM Jim Rutherford might not be done dealing. He apparently still has some salary-cap space remaining and a few assets he’s willing to move, though promising goalie Matt Murray isn’t among them.
THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS: Stars GM Jim Nill isn’t expected to make a big move at this year’s trade deadline. He could be interested in Vancouver’s Dan Hamhuis if the price is right, but it’s unlikely he’ll try to bring Boston’s Loui Eriksson back to Dallas.
MLIVE.COM: While Detroit Red Wings GM Ken Holland doesn’t appear poised to make a deal by today’s deadline, he’ll continue working the phones. If he makes a trade, it’ll be for a forward. It’s not expected the Lightning will deal Jonathan Drouin to the Wings, or the Bruins will ship Loui Eriksson to Detroit, as those clubs are jockeying for playoff position with the Winged Wheel. Columbus’ Scott Hartnell is the type of agitating forward the Wings could use, but they’re unlikely to take on the 33-year-old’s contract.
I said here a couple weeks ago that buyers would not be willing to offer up 1st rounders for rentals. So far, only 1 first rounder has been traded, and that being a low first rounder.
…and the one trade of a first round selection included a 30% swallow by Winnipeg of the salary / Cap hit. Even in a draft like this one (which plunges dramatacally aft pick 17 into what amounts to late 2nd and 3rd round developmental type youngsters with various chinks in their armor) teams view those late first rounders as good possibilities to draft future low end roster prospects who may not display high upside, but seem safe choices with a high possibility of eventual helping manage the Cap.
Honestly in a year when there might be a Cap retraction, teams aren’t over-paying, and are not letting impluse leave them with consequences in the next seasons. I am surprised Hudler yielded a second and more. But Florida is a teams who has gone the “hold our picks” route for some time and can now afford to deal a few….
You have to remember, so far there`s been nothing moved so far that`s worth a lottery pick or that type of return. I think the cap uncertainty for next year plays into it because you can`t spend your way out of problems like before. If the cap was going up 5 mill a year, you`d see GM`s more willing to gamble those higher picks.
There will be yet, other than Ladd, there hasnt been anyone dealt that’s worthy of a first-rounder. If Eriksson or Boedker go, you can be certain that a 1st will go the other way.
Is Carolina interested in moving Jordan Staal? Some rumors floating around on him last night. Good player with an albatross of a contract!
If you were an NHL GM, would you take on the contract of a player who’s not worth $6 million per season?
If they’d take Umberger, MacDonald and a 1st I would.
would you give Louie Eriksson $6 mil per
No.
The Jordan Staal trade rumor started being passed around when Luke DeCock suggested that the Hurricanes should trade Skinner and Jordan while they are at their peak value. If my memory serves me correct, Luke was the writer that rated the Hurricanes pre-season moves in the 2005/2006 season as D-.
What contract value do you place on one of the best defensive centers in the league that can also chip in with 20+ goals per season. Jordan plays against the top lines every game, is a key component of the PK, and has a +6 plus/minus rating that is not skewed by his line’s goal production. Jordan is also second in the league (58.3% vs Jonathan Toew’s 58.9%) in face off percentage going against every teams top centers.
In my opinion the Hurricanes have two veteran players that should not be traded, Jordan Staal and Justin Faulk. I also believe that Jordan will be the next Hurricanes captain (if Eric doesn’t return) and that Ron Francis is okay with Jordan’s contract going forward.
Both Jordan and his brother were grossly overpaid by Carolina. Rangers are happy to get Eric – maybe he do something that he hasn’t done lately and that’s play some inspired hockey. Hard to imagine a guy would not be motivated when you have been making the money he has been making. I wouldn’t touch either player. Rangers lost 2 high draft picks and a good prospect, like they could afford to lose more prospects.
“A good young prospect” …Didn’t you question if the Rangers had anything of value a week ago? Did you know his name before yesterday? I barely did.
I don’t know the guy NYR – some of the reporters in the field that I trust called him a good prospect. Good means he has a chance, nothing more.
If the Rangers were going to trade more future they needed to get a guy who we know would contribute, like Loui. Staal is an awful gamble to me, especially if the Rags have little chance of resigning him. Rangers will have to count a huge home town discount to get him back next season.
Second round picks are tossed around like candy on Draft Day every year. Rangers can recoup picks on Draft Day and if they deal with non-PO teams, the draft picks they get will be higher up in the draft order. That trade for Staal was a no-brainer and he is going to be a beast for the Rangers down the stretch and into the playoffs. He is good on the PP and also can play the PK. He knows what it takes to win a Cup and he’s a leader. He will be rejuvenated playing on a team that is loaded with talent and he does not have a lot of miles on his body due to the fact that he Candy Canes rarely make the playoffs.
And why would the Rangers have “little chance of resigning him”?? They are a premier, 1st class organization and his brother plays for them so he will get settled in very quickly. There’s a better chance he will sign at a bit of a discount there than anywhere else. The Rangers are going to trade a center before next season, possibly Stepan. Boyle is a goner and possibly NAsh gets traded. They will find the room to sign Staal if he does as well as I think he will do for the Rangers
NYR lost 2 very late 2nd round picks. 2 picks who’s chances of even getting a cup of coffee in the NHL are under 20%. They didn’t give up an A grade prospect but a soft B grade at best who also is unlikely to be an NHL regular.
I like the acquisition especially at this cost with Car eating 1/2 the cap hit. E.Staal will help. He doesn’t need to be a top 6 forward for NYR but a solid #3. This move may push Hayes to RW & that might be a good thing.
I don’t know that re-signing him is in their best interest. Staal was probably the best player left on the trade market.(Unless someone pops up that is a total surprise.) Ladd or Weise were better options, but also off the market. Personally, I don’t like the move. Not because of what they gave up, more because I don’t feel he is the guy they needed to put them over the top. Time will tell. Also need to see what else they do today before I come to any conclusion of how deep they will or won’t go.
Most people here keep talking about the Rangers window closing this year or next. Personally, I don’t agree. They have plenty of youth on this team and have guys that could bring back a good return. But if their window IS closing, why would giving up 2nd rounders and a guy that was drafted in last years 3rd round be a bad thing? Are those players making any difference anytime soon? Why not go for it now, and worry about guys who are going to help in 4-5 years when the window actually closes?
To trade Stepan and replace him with Staal is a mistake.
NYR won’t be resigning E. Staal unless he’s taking a contract at or near 4 mil on no more than 5 years. Not happening. This is a rental.
NYR is a contender for at least 3 more years with this group if not longer. They cupboard isn’t bare; they have 3 very good prospects coming, 2 forwards & a D & the core of this team with the exception of Lundqvist is quite young & a bunch of kids are playing now. Goalies can easily play into their mid to late 30’s very effectively.
NYR has some money to spend next season if Yandle can’t be reatained.
My criticism of the Rangers’ trade for Staal is two-fold-
1) NYR are very shallow in prospects – they have now lost three more prospect positions. 2nd rounders do make it to the NHL, when the right people are drafting
2) Staal himself – $9M has been paid to a player that has under performed for some time. I hope he is a beast in NY, but it will take some work to restart his engine. Vinny seemed to have the same issues when he went to Philly, had to leave the Flyers and go to LA to restart his engines, but not as a top 6 forward.
Resigning Staal – you will need him to take a 50% pay cut to get him to stay in New York long term. Good luck with those negotiations.
less than 30% of second rd picks play regularly in the nhl
How often do 2nd round draft picks go straight to the NHL? Or even make it there in 2-3 years full time? Sure. NY isn’t as deep as Edmonton, etc. But they are also contenders. NY has a lot of youth in their NHL lineup. Stepan 25, Kreider 24, Miller 22, Fast 24, Hayes 23, McIlrath 23, Lindberg 24. Do these guys need to be replaced anytime soon?
They have plenty of assets to recoup draft picks if they choose that route. Nash, Klein, Zuccarello, Brassard Stepan, Mcdonagh.
Also, I’m not sure NY brought in Staal to be a top 6 forward. They have him penciled in on the 3rd line for tonight’s game with Hayes and Lindberg. Their top 2 lines have played well, and When Nash comes back, I can’t see Staal being anything other than a 3rd line guy that gets time on the 2nd pp/pk units.
NYR – if it works, great. I stated my issues with the trade aside from Staal’s recent performance. The Rangers have one of the shallowest farm systems in the league.
Which would you prefer, A contending team or a team filled with prospects sitting at the bottom of the standings year after year.
Look at the teams ranked the deepest.1-8. Aside from Boston,
Arizona
Winnipeg
Buffalo
Toronto
Tampa
Edmonton
NYI’s
How many playoff appearances combined? How many series wins combined? Now before anyone starts going crazy that I included Tampa on this list, Yes. They are contenders now. But it’s been a LONG ugly road to where they are today. Ditto NYI’s. They also needed trades / Fa’s to get them there . Stralman, Boychuk, Carle, Callahan, Boyle, Coburn, Garrison, Leddy etc.
Any team trying to strictly build a contender through the draft only. Well, I wish them a lot of luck.
NYR’s prospects are almost all playing in the NHL.
Lindberg 23 signed for 1 more year. Miller 23 RFA, Fast 23 1 more, Hayes 24 RFA, Kreider 24 RFA, McIlrath 23 RFA.
The remaining core at forward are essentially just in their prime. Zuccarrello 27 3 more, Brassard 27 3, Stepan 25 5 & Nash 27 2.
D is pretty young as well. Staal 28 5 more, Girardi 31 4 more, Klein 30 2, McIlrath 23 RFA.
This is a young hockey team & the prospect cupboard is far from bare.
NYR4LIFE, not build through the draft? Wouldn’t you agree that the Rangers turned the corner when they stopped chasing expensive free agents and started developing their own players. Specifically in the 2004 draft when they made 13 selections, including 6 in the first 2 rounds, drafting Callahan and Dubinsky?
Personally, I think the Ranger made a great deal for Staal. They got perhaps the best player available at the deadline for not much more than San Jose gave up for Polak and Spaling. Lol.
Lol… still laughing.
NYR has 7F, 4D & 1G signed next season at 53.5 mil. They have 5 RFA’s; only 4 are probably retained, Jansen is probably allowed to walk, that will all be getting raises but the only 1’s getting what you might call a significant raise are Kreider & Miller but both will be reasonable short term deals as neither has shown enough yet to sign long term. 2 or 3 year deals. Hayes & McIlrath have very little leverage but will get some form of raises.
NYR has 6 UFA’s. 1 maybe 2 get resigned. Moore & Stalberg both cheap or they will simply be replaced with similiar players.
NYR will have the cash to sign Yandle if so inclined. If not there will be some money to spend on a UFA or 2.
I’d agree to that 100%. But they went from developing no players at all. Using nothing but Fa’s and trading ALL of their draft picks in prospects. But that is hardly the case today. Staal, Stepan, Lundqvist, Fast, Miller, Kreider, Girardi (undrafted fa),McilRath, Zuccarello (undrafted fa), and before them Callahan, Anisimov, Dubinsky, Hagelin, etc.
They don’t resemble the Messier, Holik, Fleury , Lindros etc teams of the 90’s-04.
When NYR resigns their RFA’s; Hayes, Kredier, Miller, 2 of their UFA’s, Moore & Stalberg they will have 12 forwards signed & 4 D. When they sign McIlrath 5 D & Skjei will be in the NHL next year getting a sheltered minutes. Who cares who the spare forward will be.
NYR only needs to add 2 Dman, a #5 & 6/7 spare plus a back up goalie. The top 4 is set & McIrath can easily play as the #6.
This will essentially be the same team that has more playoff appearances in the last 3 years than any other team in the NHL including Chicago. The joys of playing in the EAST.
This is a young power house roster that has 3 to 5 more years easy to be a cup contender. Why anyone thinks the window has closed or is closed makes no sense. Their young & all those young players are going to be getting significantly better over the next 2 to 3 years.
Lundqvist easily has 3 to 5 more years left in him. All you need do is look at Luongo. I have no concerns on Lunqvist’s abilities. He hasn’t shown the slightest signs of slowing down.
Sorry missed McDonaugh at 26 3 more seasons.
If you have 0 2nd round picks what are the chances of 2nd round picks playing in the NHL? Again its not jist the Staal deal its the accumulation thats the problem they habe now given up 2 firsts 2 or 3 seconds and sent away 2 3rds away in 3 years and have a total of 11 picks over the next 2 years and all but 1 of them is 3rd round or later…I knpw NYR likes to point out Leafs traded Seguin for Kessel but its not the case which os kinda funny they did exactly what tje ramgers are doing they trade 2 first roi d picks amd got 1 of them back…The Rangers gave all that up 2 1sts 3 2nds 2 prospects (2 3rds) for 3 guys who better days are behind them and likely wont be there after July 1st….great if they win a cup, if they don’t it will take sometime to rebuild from that.
@Shticky,
Toronto has had a long list of fails, not just the Kessel deal. Regardless of how many picks they’ve had, Toronto has been a perennial non playoff team. And dysfunctional at best. NY has been a playoff team every year but one in the cap era.
If NY were to all of the sudden go into rebuild mode….Why could they not recoup some picks / prospect? Mcdonagh, Staal, Stepan, Brassard, Miller, Zuccs, Klein, etc have no value? I forgot, They have no value because they play for NY.
Most of the teamns with deep prospect pools are positioning themselves for a better future – potentially. Tank and rebuild.
All in all, a nice conversation about Staal, draft picks and prospects in general. I have like the Rangers since the late 60’s – I hope this deal works out for them.
It would be a great deal, if the Rangers can get him to be the young Eric Staal again.
Bruins getting smoked again by a team that has a better record than them is telling….this is what happens when there isn’t a top 4 DMan on the team….also signing Eriksson to a new contract is a mistake for them, they offered him in the area of 4/24, I believe he’ll be 31 before next season starts, try trading him if a deal can’t be done then let him walk.
Smoked is a bit of a stretch. 4-1 isn’t smoked. Boston out shot them by 3 giving up 2 power play goals & a penalty shot goal. Rask was OK but a quality start by any means. Boston looked tired after playing 4 games in 7 days. Help is coming. Sweeney will be spending his cap space. TB is a better team than Boston & with out help Boston can’t beat TB in a 7 game series unless Rask is brilliant.
Sorry. Not a quality start by any means.
Hearing Wings like Kadri? Not sure why, they need big winger, not 2nd Center. Also hear Brendan Smith is in play.
I heard that Boston was reporting out Eriksson was a Red Wing as of yesterday at noon for Smith, Teemu Pulkkinen, and a pick (not specified what pick), which would be a heck of a better fit than Kadri. Someone should tell Kenny “NO!” to Kadri.
Dear Ken,
We need a power forward that plays more then 2 games a year and can skate. Mantha isn’t ready, find someone who is.
Sincerely,
Every Wings fan since Franzen went down.
How about Drouin for Komorov ? Matt Carle has a NTC but if he waives it Drouin and Carle for Komorov and Hunwick. Add the pick they just got 60th overall……I dont like Drouin but you need to take a crack at him based on his talent.
I like it Yankee, but I think you’d have to add in a 1st on top of Komo and Hunwick. Komo and Hunwick you could say might be worth 2 x 2nds and Drouin McKenzie suggested would go at number 4 if he were thrown back in the draft this year – I think that’s a bit rich, but whatever the case you’re still talking about a high end prospect issues notwithstanding.
the way bobby mac is talking it will take a lot more than that to get drouin
I wouldn`t, I think Komorovs leadership is worth more to Toronto than Drouin and the problems he`d be bringing. You can`t trade everybody and not everybody is a good fit on your team. I`d pass on that one.
I agree Yogi, the Leafs have a lot of small, skilled forwards. They also have the same on the backend. They have more pressing needs like a 1C and top pair D or top 4 right-side D, preferably big and two way players.
the leafs need to bundle up some of these picks for young players they actually know what they are getting in that aren’t 4-5 yrs away like picks in rds 2-7 they are kinda following the oilers rebuild and we all know how that has gone
They’re trying to take advantage of Hunter’s deep knowledge of prospects right now – that fades as the crop of youngsters he has scouted from when they were in their early teens gets drafted – among other things.
But yeah, they have to be looking more at prospects and getting higher picks rather than quantity in the next couple years. With 28 picks in the next three years and more coming today, you gotta figure they’ll look to do something along the lines of what you’re suggesting.
I’d sell high on Komorov. Great cap hit and he’d be a nice addition to any contending teams 3rd line.
Agreed Yankee.
Toronto will package picks to move up in the draft.
I’m afraid I’ve lost track; does Toronto own the entire second round yet?
Those picks are spread out, Mark. This is the Leafs 2016 picks:
1st
1st (PIT)
2nd
2nd (WAS)
3rd
3rd (PIT)
4th
4th (COL)
5th
6th
6th (STL)
7th
Is PA worth the Isles 2016 2nd? I can see Lou wanting some 2017 picks…
Yeah, I think PA gets their 2nd or equivalent. I say equivalent because the Leafs can be flexible here – they don’t really need the pick this year, they can take a salary back, they could swap back a late round pick, etc. But it sounds like a standoff right now.
Tanking has its rewards
Not to nit pick, but the Leafs 5th round pick went to Washington in the Winnik trade.
Anaheim`s 5th went to wash, not Toronto`s
Dear Mr. Yzerman.
Please make Drouin rot in hell. To start, please hold off moving him till the off season at the earliest, if at all.
I really want to see what Drouin & Walsh decide to do if he’s not moved by 3:00 PM today. he’s 2 games from this years contract counting as a full season played & I would love to see you apply to port his ELC to next season gaining the year this year of his contract back.
Thanks in advance.
Striker
Ps. Your 1 of my 3 favorite players of all time. Ha-ha!
I hope they do, Striker – he and his agent deserve it and the Lightning can afford to do it.
I think Yzerman is better served to wait till the draft. All teams will be in a position to bid come the summer. Trading him today limits the options but if the right deal comes along TB is very close to another cup appearance & if the trade resolves today’s needs & helps in the future as well so be it. Good bye & good riddance.
yzerman will be dumb not to move drouin right now and get something for the playoffs after yzerman botching the situation as much as he has and maybe losing stammer if they don’t have a long run in the playoffs he will be answering a lot of questions
Bigbear.
I disagree. Yzerman gets a better return to wait.
I agree.
striker what would you want a marginally better return or a better chance at a cup? you just went on saying how the rangers are going for it and giving away picks and prospects well the lighting are in the same boat why not get some help for the cup? quit talking out of both sides of your mouth
Well, you appear to have gotten your wish Striker. Turns out maintaining his credibility with players is worth more than whatever help a Drouin trade would have provided for the playoff run. Good on Stevie Y!
Bigbear.
Not talking out of both sides of my mouth. I even said if the return justified moving him now then do so. Obviously it didn’t or Yzerman would have. He’s doing what he thinks is right for his team.
NYR got Staal cheap. Drouin isn’t coming cheap & apparently the deals being offered simply weren’t acceptable. It’s got nothing to do with me.
but you are striker you think the rangers can give up draft picks and prospects to go for a cup run and tb has just as much chance of a cup as the rangers and with the thought that stamkos might not be back don’t you think it was kinda dumb of yzerman not to go all in for a cup run? I guarantee there was offers that would have helped tb this yr and yzerman is being greedy or being pig headed cause drouin didn’t agree wit his thought
Amen – do not take anything less for him than real market value.
Geez a lot of paper shuffling going on in Toronto right now. Calling up 5 players at this time, all Babcock can say is we`ll have 20 players here for tonites game. In the same breath, if Nyland and friends aren`t on the Marlies roster at 3 P.M. today, they aren`t eligible to play in the playoffs for the Marlies.
No, they’ll be loaned back – they’re all going to be eligible for the playoffs.
TSN thinks Toronto will just drag their feet and not officially file the paperwork till after 3 P.M. Loaning the players doesn`t count apparently.
I’m a little confused here. Sounds interesting – can anyone elaborate/educate on the loaning and playoff eligibility here? Much appreciated
They are all on the Marloes playoff roster,except Carrick who came in the Winnik trade, the 4 call up rule tho is going to probably be tough for the rest 8f the way
NYR can afford to move picks now, all of them if so inclined as they are doing, as their current NHL roster doesn’t need anymore prospects than they already have either on the roster or in the system. This roster other than a few minor depth players needs nothing for about 5 years.
There will be some UFA additions along the way & maybe some young 1’s like the Hayes signing. Several more players will be coming out of college using this odd loop hole to sign where ever they wish. Vesey is coming out soon & can either sign with Nashville who drafted him or wait until August 1st & sign where ever he wants. He’s considered to be 1 of the best players not currently playing in the NHL. Rimors are he will sign with Toronto who recently hired his dad & brother. Brilliant move by Toronto & the lure for Jim will be very strong to Toronto.
But 8f it takes all these prospects time to develop as you insistantly point out what happens when they do need em, and if you think the Rangers wimdow is open for another 5 years with this roster that at 1 point looked lile it was bottoming out earlier in thos season…well
5 years easy.
There is you & that dam snap shot again. All teams & players have bad stretches & usually you can find a fairly solid reason for them. The season is 82 games long. What happens along the way really doesn’t matter, what matters is what happens when the dust settles.
NYR has 14 players locked in as NYR property with the exception of Nash & Klein; 2 years for a very long time & all 14 of them are young. Girardi; 31; Klein; 30 & Lunqvist 33. the rest are essentially kids.
Shticky. 4 to 5 years for most to get to the NHL; in or around 22. 4 to 5 more years to show who they really are; 25 26, & then at least 6 solid years procuding at or above their best years to date. The superstars hang around even longer.
The average NHL player gets less than 350 games; doesn’t even qualify for his full NHL pension, by pure #’s as the riff raff hang around very briefly pulling down that average substantially. This is a league of 1st & 2nd rounders with the odd player that was found later or was never drafted. the 80/20 will works here very well to.
I can assure you I don’t really care what you believe. I’ll take my assumptions to the bank. I support everything NYR has done in the last 3 years at the cost they paid. No NHL team has had more playoff game appearnaces than NYR in that time & StLouis, Yandle & now E. Staal are worth every penny paid. That gate playoff gate revenue is over well over 50 million!
Unless I’m wrong the idea is to win the cup & to have any hope to do so you need to be willing to pay the price to get there. NYR has in spades & they are very close. Unfortunately only 1 team can win but it’s a 2 month grind & nothing like it in sports.
What good is it having great prospects & picks if you never win? Isn’t the idea to win?
As a NY Jet fan I get that train of thought. When the playoffs are usually not happening, and the Superbowl seems more like a distant dream, I get excited about the draft and prospects too. It’s our own little Superbowl!
When there’s not much to get excited about, every little thing is exciting. I personally can’t wait to see some of the Jets amazing prospects go on to other teams, win championships and get excited for the next round of amazing draft picks.
Bodiker to col
The more I look at it, expect a whole bunch of buy-outs by the Leafs this summer and next. Say they bought out Laich, Michalek, Greening and Cowen (if he’s not traded) this June then waited 12 months and bought out Lupul’s final year next June the cap impact would be:
2016-17: (12.667)
2017-18: 1.983
2018-19: 1.250
Looks pretty appealing to me!
They can’t buy out Greening. Nor could Ottawa simply because, when they gave him his current contract they missed the buyout option by a measly $50,000!
Greening has been pretty good imo. Id keep him so far buy out Cowan, and if by chance you bury Greening think of it as 950 k + the bonus of Cowans buy out as the savings. If theworst case Scenario is a mill or so on the books for an experienced (bigger bodied) nhl guy its not really an issue for a year. So far Greening has been a very good depth addition. 3 points in 9 games on a t3am that doesnt score much playing around 13 minutes a game.
Re: Greening – Ottawa Citizen: “With their final arbitration case done, the Senators did have a 48-hour window to conduct a salary buyout, but the buyout most often discussed publicly – that of forward Colin Greening – is not available to Ottawa as Greening’s average salary is below the new benchmark of $2,985,625 as set out in the CBA. AGM Pierre Dorion said on TSN1200 Tuesday Greening’s contract falls about $10,000 short. The final two years of Greening’s deal produce an AAV of $2.975M.”
The final year of his contract is $3.2. If the benchmark rises less than $214,375 he can be bought out.
George, I think Greening may qualify this year because the final year of his contract is $3.2 million. I could be wrong. Don’t have time to look it up right now. They’ve now announced Cowen will be bought out. He had the most upside of the bunch. I’m convinced Michalek and Laich are gonzo too.
That would free up space for this coming July 1st to be a bidder in the Stamkos sweepstakes or once again sign quality UFAs to 1 and 2 year contracts for the purposes of moving them next March.
This is the natural extension of what they’ve be doing. Using $$ to accelerate the rebuild.
CO, they will have tons of space even after signing Stamkos. However, Mirtle waso n the radio today saying for what it’s worth, the Leafs don’t seem that hot on him and he doesn’t seem that hot on going to a rebuilding team.
Dano, I don’t see Stamkos signing in Toronto either. But if he hits to the open market I expect them to make him an offer. You don’t often get an opportunity to acquire a superstar player without giving up an asset. Not often as in never. Any team with the budget and cap space would be crazy not make an offer.
Brandon Pirri to Anaheim for a 6th rd, wherein the world was Toronto on this one. Wow
Surprising, I figured he’d go for a lot more.
Toronto needs scoring, they have a ton of picks, are they saying their picks are worth more than Pirri. He`s only 24, had an injure this year and has scored 20+ goals In the NHL. Lou dropped the ball on this one.
He’s also streaky as hell.
A lot of goal scorers are hot and cold. He`s young, he can score and the price was great. I don`t think Mark Hunter will even come close to finding a player as good after the 2nd rd this spring. Lou missed this one
Pirri is a UFA in the off season. Making less than the league average with 5 years experience. So that limited his value as he will test the market this summer in hopes of getting some type of payday.
No, he’s a RFA with arbitration rights.
Disregard. NHLnumbers.com had him as a UFA in Florida but has corrected to Anaheim.
Geez striker yoir numbers and info is wrong ? And you posted it with out researching first??? Lol
Bob Murray is brilliant. Did exactly what I said he would do. He buys a good depth player for nothing. Pirri for Anaheim’s 6th! That’s essentailly a 7th & there are only 7 rounds. Unbelievable that’s free. Where were the other teams?
Anaheim isn’t altering the mix until the off season. Pirri when healthy will play & he can score & to get him for nothing is just weird.
Easily the best deal of this deadline so far. I’m thinking we get a flurry right at/after the deadline, though.
pretty much at the end here now – time for those last minute deals to come in. Was PA not traded?? Pretty crazy that the leafs didn’t make him a healthy scratch saturday
No Parenteau trade.
So how does it work then Lyle. With the trading window closed at 3, are there deals still in the works? since some get reported as late as 5 pm
Deadline is 3 pm. It takes time for the late trades to be reported once trade calls are approved by the league.
Thanks Lyle
Cheers!
@ Taz ya propbably the boggest bungle so far, I am starting to womder if they do t try and resign Boyes to another cheap deal and well Grabners stone hands surprised nobody he wasnt moved I suppose, but all in all cant complain too much. Phaneuf Winnik Polak Spaling Reimer Mathias is a pretty high number of guys to move over the past couple weeks. Its too bad a few more didnt go but probably another bigger ticket item or 2 to go over the offseason.
parenteaus past wouldn’t have helped in trading him bought out by mtl and given away by the avs maybe lou just didn’t want to give him up for a 5th or 6th rd pick
Good for Garth to not give in to Lou. I think Lou got greedy with his asking price for Parenteau.
Glad the Bruins did something but have to be honest disappointed. Based on what Boedker moved for which to me was virtually nothing obviously trading didn’t justify moving him. I sure hope they can get him resigned. Stempniak & Liles help but was hoping for more.
I think Calgary may have garnered the best return for a single player moving Russell. I really like that deal long term for Calgary.
What the hell happened in Vancouver? Can we fire Benning yet? On a positive note after over 20 years as a Canucks season ticket holder I’m going to save my almost 12K & give up my 2 Canucks season tickets. What a Gong show. Asset management has been brutal since Benning arrived. Enough is enough.
Nill way overpaid for Russell. As for Vancouver most people agree they were losers today.
nill didn’t overpay for russel he will help dallas a lot and wouldn’t be surprised if he resigns and wont be a rental
Treliving has made some quality trades thus far. He got good value for Hudler and Russell this year and Glencross at last year’s deadline. He got Dougie Hamilton for much less than everyone thought possible. And the Shinkarek trade could haunt Vancouver for many years. He sells big at the trade deadline and buys big at the draft. Good moves.
To me Treliving is starting to look real good at the job he is doing getting value for older pieces and adding good younger ones. I like what the Flames are doing.