The latest on Steven Stamkos, Milan Lucic, Loui Eriksson, Kevin Shattenkirk & more in your post-NHL draft rumor roundup.
Post-NHL Draft rumors and speculation.
The Steven Stamkos free-agent sweepstakes is about to begin.
OTTAWA SUN: Bruce Garrioch reports it seems all but certain Steven Stamkos has played his final game with the Tampa Bay Lightning. While there’s talk the Lightning are offering an eight-year deal worth $8.5 million per season, Stamkos is aware he could get more on the open market. The Buffalo Sabres, Detroit Red Wings and Toronto Maple Leafs could be among the suitors.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Barring a last-minute deal, Stamkos is likely a goner. That could change if he doesn’t receive any suitable offers, but the Sabres, Wings and Leafs will definitely ante up to get him. As I’ve said in recent days, he’ll have to decide on accepting less money to stick with a Cup contender or chase the big bucks and put his championship dreams on hold for a while.
It looks like Boston Bruins winger Loui Eriksson will also hit the free-agent market. His camp seeks a six-year deal but the Bruins are only offering four.
The Edmonton Oilers have shown interest in Minnesota Wild defenseman Jonas Brodin. Garrioch believes Oilers center Ryan Nugent-Hopkins would be a good fit with the Wild.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: While a Brodin for Nugent-Hopkins seems like a good fit, the former’s struggles this season suggest he’s not ready for top-pairing minutes. If so, the Oilers should look elsewhere to address their blueline needs.
The Sabres are believed to have made a push to acquire Anaheim Ducks defenseman Cam Fowler, who could be on the move at some point this summer. The Bruins and Montreal Canadien also need blueliners. The asking price for Fowler is a first-round pick and a prospect. The Ducks need to free up salary-cap space to pursue a rugged winger.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Fowler trade talk died down over the weekend, but that doesn’t mean it’s over. Things could heat up again later this week. Have to wonder if the Oilers are getting into the bidding there.
There remains plenty of interest in St. Louis Blues defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk. Eligible next summer for UFA status, there’s talk he’ll seek a seven-year deal worth around $7 million per season.
SPORTSNET: Damien Cox believes the biggest moves are yet to come following the NHL draft. He reminds us last year’s Phil Kessel trade didn’t take place until July 1. He thinks there’s too much trade smoke regarding Canadiens defenseman P.K. Subban for it not to be at least possible he could move.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Bergevin keeps saying he’s not shopping Subban but he can’t stop rival GMs from making inquiries. Even if he’s listening to offers, the asking price will be enormous, much more than many GMs are willing to pay.
Talk of Oilers center Ryan Nugent-Hopkins going to the Wild seems to have some substance.
TORONTO SUN: Steve Simmons reports winger Joffrey Lupul hasn’t heard anything from the Leaf regarding his future with the club. Simmons believes the Leafs don’t want him and will try to find a creative way to bury his contract.
With the Leafs and Calgary Flames having addressed their goaltending needs, there’s no obvious destination for San Jose Sharks pending UFA goalie James Reimer.
EDMONTON JOURNAL: Jim Matheson reports Buffalo Sabres GM Tim Murray said he’s going after “the big fish” in free agency, referring to Stamkos. The Leafs and Red Wings could also pursue him.
Los Angeles Kings pending UFA left wing Milan Lucic will also be a big catch. The Oilers and Vancouver Canucks could come calling.
Latest on the Lightning, Bruins,Stars, Wild and Penguins.
TAMPA BAY TIMES: Joe Smith reports there’s no shortage of teams with interest in signing Lightning star Steven Stamkos. The Sabres plan to make a big push, the Red Wings could offer up seven years at $10 million annually and his hometown Leafs could offer both contract and lucrative endorsement opportunities.
CSNNE.COM: Joe Haggerty reports Bruins GM Don Sweeney isn’t ruling out making a pitch for Stamkos or welcoming back Milan Lucic via free agency.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: I doubt the Bruins can win a bidding war for Stamkos. Could Lucic be open to a return to Boston? Bruins fans would welcome him back with open arms. However, he will be expensive, perhaps over $7 million per season.
DALLAS MORNING NEWS: Mike Heika reports trying to move Kari Lehtonen or Antti Niemi could be difficult for the Dallas Stars to do this summer, but could get easier later next season. If defensemen like Brian Campbell or Dan Hamhuis become available via free agency, the Stars could jump on one of them.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: On Friday night, there was chatter at the NHL draft claiming the Stars were talking with the Lightning about a possible deal for goalie Ben Bishop. However, the sticking point was the Bolts had to take on Lehtonen or Niemi in return. Nothing further was heard on this, as the Bolts probably don’t want to be saddled with either guy. Campbell and Hamhuis should be available if the Stars want to pursue one or both. On Saturday, the Canucks told Hamhuis to test the market.
STARTRIBUNE.COM: Michael Russo reports the Minnesota Wild had trade talks with the Oilers regarding Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. “The Oilers appear to want right-shot Matt Dumba and other pieces, including next year’s second-rounder. The problem is the Wild no longer owns that pick,” writes Russo. “It’s also believed the Wild has talked to the Rangers about center Derek Stepan and the Arizona Coyotes about veteran center Martin Hanzal and prospect Christian Dvorak.” GM Chuck Fletcher is also gauging the upcoming UFA market.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Perhaps the Wild might revisit those trade talks if they fail to address their roster needs via free agency.
CBS SPORTS: Adam Gretz report Pittsburgh Penguins GM Jim Rutherford once again insisted he’s not trading Evgeni Malkin. He also claims goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury will start the season with the Penguins.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Fleury might start the season with the Penguin but he might not finish it with them. As for Malkin, give it a rest, folks! He wasn’t traded in 2008 (the infamous “Malkin to the Kings” headline). He wasn’t traded last summer amid unsubstantiated speculation over his “unhappiness” in Pittsburgh. He’s certainly not be traded now after the Penguins won the Stanley Cup.
Pitt and Dallas still makes a ton of sense. Niemi with a small amount of salary held and a good forward or d prospect for maf. Helps both teams
I agree MAF would be terrific there and with that offense….don’t want any part of Niemi coming back to Pittsburgh though. I was thinking MAF and Derrick Pouliot to Dallas for 4th liner Valerie Nichushskin.
I can’t wait to see how the goalie market plays out now leading up to the expansion draft. TB & Pit are now in tight spots with their goalies. Going to fun watching this play out over the next year.
Actually the Bruins could win the bidding war for Stamkos, they have about $22 million in cap space and still might buyout/trade Seidenberg. If I could be Sweeney/Neely I would try to get Stamkos and then trade Krejci for a top 2 D-man. If they gave Stamkos say $11 million it’s only costing them $3.75 million a season cause Krejci makes $7.25 million. I know that it’s only a dream.
Krejci has a nmc, would have to waive it; also I think teams might want to see him in action, after recovering from hip surgery.
Dead on. The Bruins don’t need the cap headache that Stamkos’s contract brings to almost any team. The Bruins with Bergeron, Krejci & Spooner are set at C for the next 5 years.
He’s ending up in Buffalo!!
I agree Krejci who is slowing down can move to RW.
Would rather trade him.
I would take Lucic back over Eriksson but prefer to go after a RW like Okposo or Broewer.
Bruins do have a good amount of cap space.
The Bruins are a mess, unfortunately, and it’s not getting better with their current management. I think the McAvoy pick was solid – safer than Chychrun – but the Frederic pick was strange to me. I can’t see Stamkos going there. Ditto Detroit.
I see Stamkos staying in Tampa most likely or going to Toronto – he won’t go to Buffalo. Nobody from Toronto goes to Buffalo by choice. And I like western NY and the people of Buffalo, but I’m sorry, it’s just not a destination. Winnipeg and Edmonton have the same issue. Vesey isn’t going there either folks.
Lol there’s no way in hell he goes to Boston.
Arizona helped out Detroit big time at the draft. The 20th and 53rd on there own should get you the 16th pick, I can’t believe Holland got them to take on Datsyuk’s contract as well. Holland actually had to go past his allotted time to think about this trade haha
I used to think it was between the Leafs and Lightning for Stamkos, now with Detroit in the mix I’m not so sure.
Holland vrs 27 year old GM….. I was amazed they moved that contract for almost nothing after all the has to include xyz prospect talk.
If Holland lands Stamkos, or another high end FA like Lucic, he’ll look like a genius. But there’s no guarantee that’ll happen. As much as that trade helped Detroit now, In my eyes they kinda blew it when they picked Cholowski. They passed on Chychrun to make the trade, who’s a much better defenceman imo. Detroit has very little talent waiting in the wings (pun intended), they need to restock.
Holland came out of this looking like a genius. Getting Datsyuk’s 7.5 million off the books & getting Cholowski, Hronek & dumping Datsyuk’s contract essentially for Chychrun is an incredible deal.
Wasn’t exactly a coup.. Ari takes his cap hit for just one season and don’t have to re-up any of their young stars yet(Stone and Murphy aren’t going to be cripplingly expensive). There is no risk here at all for Ari and helps their cap situation with relation to the floor.
Excellent move for Detroit, but they didn’t take a young GM to the cleaners or anything.
Seriously? Arizona just drafted Chychrun. That guy will look awfully nice on their top pairing in a few years. Thhe first pick was Keller was it not!? I think the 27 year old GM did a fine job. He did t care how he helped another team. He managed to improve his team tremendously his summer.
Kenny Holland is an arrogant dinosaur. I couldn’t believe he made that move with Datsyuk’s contract. It was necessary to allow PHX to get the better pick and I’m surprised Holland could swallow his pride to allow it to happen. The question is, with all this free’d up money can he land a free agent, or are they being steered away because the Wings are no longer considered a desirable destination due to over loyalty to past expired veterans and the rumored “swedish mafia”.
I love my Wings, if Holland pulls the Stamkos move off and lands a top 4 D-man, I will eat my words . I would love to eat my words…
Take care everyone.
Like I said Jeff, I like the pick Arizona made, they had one heck of a draft. I just can’t believe Holland only had to move back 4 spots AND he got their second rounder to clear up that much dead cap space. It wasn’t market value considering what other teams had to give up, teravainen to get rid of Bickel for example.
By the book the AZ GM gave up too much.
The included 2nd was enough to trade up. The other option was 20 fir Datsyuk and 16 would have been enough.
I would have played hard ball with detroit to take Datsyuk off their hands.
If you guys are correct are you assuming no other team was in the bidding that perhaps another team offered exactly what you state and that Arizona decided to offer more to insure they could get Chychrun a D man they needed.
I think arizona really wanted that chychukyn and holland knew that, so he paid the price to get the player he really wanted which at one point last year he was suppose to compete with matthews for number 1 pick, so id say getting him in 16th was a good grab, he did give up a lot for it but in a few years he might look like the genius, datsyuk’s contract is just for 1 year which helps them get to the salary cap floor and can play their young guys instead of having to sign guys for a lot of money
He needed to reach the cap floor, and its only one year. he knows they are not contending for the cup next year. He did just fine. Smart kid.
I fully agree & wrote the same thing yesterday. Holland fleeced Chayka. The price Arizona paid to move up 4 spots, 16 for 20 & 53 was higher than any other team paid to move up never mind Datsyuk’s cap hit. Getting Chychrun was awesome. I assumed they would have taken him at 7 so coming away with him & Keller was nice but shouldn’t have been so costly but at the end of the day who really cares. Arizona has the room to eat the cap hit & being in different conferences I guess Chayka didn’t care he was doing Holland a huge favor getting him out of cap hell for essentially nothing.
striker and dan…it’s not that chayka was fleeced…it’s a disgrace that this is to circumvent the salary cap floor…now the ‘yotes are on the hook to pay out about $46.5 million in ACTUAL salary,while reaching the cap floor of $54 million…so the $7.5 of datsyuk’s salary goes into the owners fat pockets instead of on the ice…if i were a ‘yotes fan,i’d be unhappy over this joke…all the teams that want to spend to get better get screwed by the salary cap,and these clowns in the desert couldn’t care less…thanks bettman…you wonder why you get booed every time you go to the podium
Agreed! I’m so glad that they have closed the Redden, Kovy loop holes while creating other ways for Gms to pillage the system!!!
mick7.
I’m confused. I don’t get what your implying?
By the time Arizona ices it’s 23 man roster their cap hit not counting Datsyuk & Pronger’s cap hits will be well above 54 million floor.
Arizona has Doan’s 1 year contract coming. That will be around 3.5 to 4 mil; being over 35 it’s probably bonus laden meaning if bonus’s are earned they can be exceeded should Arizona be so inclined, Reider, Stone, C. Murphy, Dahlbeck, Tinordi & Connauton are all RFAs. That will add another 7.5 to 9 mil in cap hit. Strome & Dvorak will hit the cap at 5.5 combined on their ELC’s & Arizona will still need to add 3 players via UFA signing, trade, or promotion.
That’s 17 million. That’s 62+ million with Datsyuk & Pronger on the books & 3 more players to add to get to 23 players. By the time those other 3 players are added Arizona will be above the floor of 54 with out accounting for Datysuk or Pronger’s contracts comfortably.
striker…i see you point,but my point is as a fan,the ‘yotes,even if they splurged,would be paying 7.5 below the max cap,,,that’s two good players worth ofsalary or one difference maker….anyway,the league doesn’t need another team in the desert(different topic)…in any event,it was a way to save$$$$
I like the move by both teams. Dont forget the Yotes dumped 1 mil in Joe Vitale
Lol why can’t you believe it? It was an awesome trade for Arizona. You know how much cap room the Yotes actually have left to play with? Also Datsyuk’s contract has one year left on it. So it’s not like they took Pronger on again.
Them taking Datsyuk and getting Chychrun was a steal on the Yotes part.
hope the Pens can move MAF and get more Cap Space! get a descent return, nothing over the top and sign Justin Schultz & Lovejoy walk.
What many miss is a Malkin trade won’t happen before a sale of the team. It’s status quo in Penguins land until any sale is complete.
The whole sale of the team thing has all but disappeared…..not a Malkin fan would love to trade him and get a nice return and make the team better.
Malkin to Minnesota for C – Charlie Coyle and D-man Matthew Scandella or D-man Jared Surpgeon..
Wow, that’s a garbage return for a superstar center. Wouldn’t take any of those three. Must be a fake Pittsburgh fan.
If Zac isn’t the first name on players coming out of Minnesota then talks should be dead right there.
Lets see, a #2 Dman in Spurgeon, a #3 in Scandella & Coyle who will be a 30 goal 65 to 70 point player by the end of the 2017-18 season. None of these 3 players are fully developed & combined only make 3 million more per season than Malkin. All are a year & a 1/2 away from being fully NHL developed.
No you wouldn’t want to make that deal but you need not worry, neither does Minnesota.
Striker i think the trade was either spurgeon or scandella not both, if both plus coyle id make the trade, or 1 plus coyle and 1-2 picks then i’d make the trade.. Get a center and 1-2 defenseman would make em contenders for years to come!
Yes it was Spurgeon OR Scandella and Charlie Coyle…. Charlie coyle who is a 20 goal scorer NOW can be a 30 goal scorer slots in to the third line center with Rust and Kunitz.. Spurgeon or Scandella steps in to the top 4. fits Sullivans fast puck speed moving system….MAKES mATTA A 5TH DEFENSEMAN…and if its Spurgeon and COlye we save a million and get younger…if its Coyle and Scndella we save $2 million and get younger.
mALKIN WILL NOT AND ACTUALLY IS NOT AGING WELL
RYAN c…mALKIN WILL NOT AGE WELL.. cHARLIE cOYLE WILL SCORE 25 TO 30 GOALS (ABOUT WHAT MALKIN SCORES) AND EITHER sCANDELLA OR sPURGEON WILL MAKE THE pENS TOP 4 CLOSE TO TOPS IN THE LEAGUE…THAT’S NOT GARBAGE…. WE GET BETTER, YOUNGER, FASTER AND CHEAPER.
YOU REALLY IN A COUPLE YEARS WANT A 32 YEAR OLD MALKIN BROKEN DOWN MAKING $9.5 MILLION A YEAR SCORING 18 GOALS A SEASON NOT FAR AWAY FROM THAT. I DON’T
We have a lot of fans in Pittsburgh that know nothing.
As for the Stamkos sweepstakes my gut feeling is he will decide to remain in the US, with BUF & DET as the frontrunners. If his ultimate motive is going for the biggest bucks, it will be BUF. If he chooses to go with a contender in the end it will be DET.
TOR cannot afford to after Stamkos at all costs. They have to project 3 years down the road – Marner, Matthews (franchise player bucks) & Nylander will be looking for bigger bucks (in the $5 – $7 M range), plus they still need to land that big top stud D man, who will also command big bucks. If TOR signs Stamkos ($10 M +) they will be in cap hell in 3 years time.
Have to agree with your take on Stamkos. Buffalo and Detroit seem like the two most logical leaning points for him. If I’m Toronto, I don’t even get involved. Not at $10 million plus. Stick with the plan.
*landing points*….
Agree somewhat, I think the Leafs will and should make an offer but at a home town discount and sell him on the team and endorsement opportunities.It’s worth a shot if Leafs can get him at 8.5-9.5 range. The cap will go up and the Cdn $ should improve somewhat. He is too big of a piece not to and he may have dreams of being a leaf.
Buffalo is in the exact same boat as Toronto, they can’t afford to give him that kind of money at max term. They have as many or more youth to sign in the foreseeable future. The endorsements that Stamkos could garner in Toronto would eclipse anywhere else in the league. He’s not going to end up on legends row playing for Buffalo or Detroit. They are also two teams every Maple Leafs fan hates growing up. The taxes in NY vs ONT are negligible, and the value of the US dollar is higher in Canada. There is only one city in the league that has Stamkos’ family and friends in it… These reasons make me believe Toronto is at least his front runner right now, whether or not they can sign him is a different beast, but from the way management in Toronto talks, they’re going to go after him and hard.
I both agree and disagree. If this is purely about money, hey makes more as a Leaf than anywhere else. Endorsement deals will be worth many millions more in Toronto than anywhere else. If this is about ego and achieving max contract dollars, then we do not need it. A max dollar deal would kill the team in the long run. Particularly when there is some question about Steven’s ability as a 1st line center.
Toronto has lots of space to fit in Stamkos! With So many contracts coming off the books next year they are in great shape. Problem is that people look at there cap space right now on different sites and say “oh they can’t afford him” but there cap hit right now includes 5.3 million Nathan Horton how will go on LTIR and come off the cap once season starts. They will still have 10-15 million next year to spend as well!!!
I think Buffalo’s chances of making the playoffs next season are far better than Detroit’s. Buffalo just picked up a #3 Dman in Kulikov for free, they have a ton of money still to spend & Murray will spend a bunch of it. At least 2 more UFA’s or trades are copming.
If it’s going to be all about the money, Stamkos earns more signing in TB not counting endorsements. Again 8.5 mil in Florida is over 11 mil in Buffalo or Detroit when tax’s factor in. More so in Toronto or any Canadian city especially Montreal. Even with 3 million in potential endorsements available in Toronto the financial impact for Stamkos to take the 8.5 offered in TB is nominally less even if Toronto pays him 10 in salary & in TB he has a chance for at least the next 3 to 5 seasons of winning a cup.
That said I want TB to just move on. Even at 8.5 Stamkos’s contract is brutal for TB. Kucherov is their best player today & Hedman needs 8 mil for the next 8 years. No player is more important to TB than Hedman.
Mg not sure if that was a shot at me or the other guy…. I love Malkin but if we were to trade him now is the time… He is in his prime at 29 in a few years with that salary we wont be able to pay people to take him…just saying…… Minnesota is a good fit they have some good young talent….and at some point you have to evaluate the cost of keeping a player to long///look messier was traded, Gretzky, Hull, Jagr, kurri, Brad Park, Phil Esposito, Bobby Orr.
Just saying cool with keeping malkin no problem…just tossing out some ideas..in minnesota he is the man, we get young talent, a deeper roster, save money.. so criticize if you want with your blank statement at least i made one MG whatever that is a tv doppler 5000 ?
As reported on the NHL network yesterday & we have discussed here numerous times. 8.5 mil in Florida is slightly more than 11 mil per in any other US market & even more than that if he chooses a Canadian based team.
Many other factors, Florida’s gun laws, his family and friends in Tor, even the US election could be a factor. He may have a desire to play for Babcock on Leafs and Cda there have been rumours of a disconnect with Cooper. It will be interesting.
What do Floridas gun laws have to do with anything? He can’t buy one here.
He pays Canadian taxes regardless as he’s a Canadian citizen, and hockey players pay a jock tax that requires them to pay taxes on the games they play in each respective state. Canadian dollar is around .80 to the USD, for every 5 million he makes 1 million. He still pays Canadian taxes, regardless of where he plays.
If Stamkos plays and retires as a Maple Leaf, he will earn millions per year long after his hockey playing days are over. Not so in Buffalo or Detroit. Its not just the money. Its not just playing on an original six team. Its not playing close to home. Its playing at home. For the team you grew up cheering for, not for its hated rivals (which Tampa was not). Stamkos signs with the Leafs, no doubt in my mind. Holland and Furnace Face will have to just deal with it.
The difference is not very big. I don’t know where you get your figures from but the league is in a span between 39% and 53% approximately.
So, as an example. If calculated for @8.5M, you would pay $1.2M more tax per year annually in Toronto than in Florida. So an equivalent salary in Toronto would be more like $10M. That is not a big difference and may or might not have impact on Stamkos.
Also, there are ways to defer 35% (from memory) of your income in pension funds that are to be paid out after an active career. Also, by maximizing the bonuses in a contract, you could pay less tax, since tax on bonuses and pay are completely different tariffs.
I don’t perceive Brodin to have suffered in the slightest. His role as more of a defensive Dman has manifested it self over the course of his young career. Early as a rookie even into his sophomore season he has seen any & all PP time completely evaporate taking on more & more defensive responsibilities.
Last season he played on the 2nd pairing with Scandella logging just nominally less TOI/GP than his partner playing 20:25 per game on average seeing 0:06 seconds per game of PP time. In the playoffs with games more meaningfull he played as the # playing over a minute per game leading Minnesota’s D in SH TOI/GP by a substantial margin. In 2014-15 Brodin averaged 0:57 PP TOI/GP in 2013-14 1:25 PP TOI/GP. Early in his career he played with Suter but coaching changes altered the pairings. Spurgeon moved up to play with Suter & Brodin dropped down to play with Scandella.
Brodin is turning 23 in July having played 263 NHL regular season games already in his young career just stepping in as a top 4D right off the bat is impressive. No harder position to learn to play in the NHL & he’s transitioned seemlessly. He is easily a future #2 Dman. Ironically the best comparison I can give you of his abilities would be to Hamonic.
If Edmonton can secure Brodin at the cost of RNH they had better hurry up before someone else cuts their grass. The unfortunate part is he’s a leftie & Edm could sure use a rightie.
Window will close on RNH and Brodin. Backes or Stepan baby!
I don’t want Lucic back & I’m a life long Bruins fan, there were only 6 NHL teams when I was growing up & Boston was a stones throw from New Brunswick. Lets get Marchand extended & try to sign a player like Brouwer. Comes cheaper & doesn’t have Lucic’s I’m holy there now attitude not to mention cap hit will be almost 2 million less & term at least 2 years shorter.
Having lost out on Goligoski & Yandle I just hope Boston gets Vesey otherwise & say continue the rebuild & promote Vatrano to a top 9 forward role & let C. Miller & Morrow play more, excepting their mistakes as the learn & develop. It would be nice to know if C. Miller is a protector come the expansion draft & only 1 way to find out & that’s play him.
I would take Lucic back missing his physical play but agree we don’t need him. Have Marchand,Belesky,Vatrano,Ferraro and possibly Vesey on left wing. Agree on Brouwer he looked great in the playoffs.
I would sign a veteran defenseman on a year or two contract.
No on Stamkos his cap hit will hurt too much.
I don’t want Stamkos if it cost more than 9 million otherwise the Leafs will be in cap hell this year. Next year there is about 20 million dropping out of the payroll so there will be space for deals due to the expansion draft. In three or four years when the cap goes up this contract will look good but by then Nylander and that group will need big deals.
Actually it would work out goid fir Toronto. Stamkos signs for 7, matthews is under 7 yrs team control thus lower salary then when Stamkos is done matthews get a high 8 yr contract. ?
Marner also falls in the same boat UFA years hit when Stamkos contract ends.
Thar is why with buffali I would have preferred ROR extension to go 9nly 6 yrs and Ennis and Moulson contracts go 4 yrs instead of 5 ending in 2018.
Matthews’ wouldn’t be under the 7 year term, because they’ll use up his rookie year in his first year and will burn off 2 years of the 7 year term.
Holland pulled off a gooder! Thank God! And I actually really like this kid he drafted. Chychrun might (probably) turn out pretty good, but why did the top ranked D-Man in the draft fall to the 5th drafted D-Man? I trust the Wings scouts.
As for Stamkos? I hope we get him. I just hope it’s for no more than $10 mill.
As for the Oil…why aren’t they bugging Nashville for Weber? You can’t tell me that Edmonton doesn’t have enough to offer! And the Preds would still have Josi and the rest of their steller D group.
Nashville can’t trade Weber due to recapture rules. They trade him now and he places for edmonton snd retires with 1 yr left…holy cap hell nashville will be in with a one year recapture penslty of around $20 or more.
Sane reason Hossa will never get traded.
Good catch Dan! My bad!
No where near that significant see the recapture costs for Kovalchuk & Richards but as so much of his contract was paid at the front the difference between cap hit & the final years depending upon when & if he should retire isn’t that significant. I will strive to find the recapture penalties.
It matters not, as Weber isn’t moving any time soon, nor do I necessarily believe he ever will be but 10 years is way to long a time to say never. Will he play to 40? Few NHL Dman have.
The recapture rule on Weber is one of confusion for me. I have seen all types of numbers tossed around. I cant see him being trade now as the Preds have already paid him a huge amount.
The worst recapture contract according to most is Luongo. Signed til he’s 43. Ouch !
I suspect that we’ll have a Stamkos decision by Wednesday. Teams will be pressuring him to let them know if they need to move a player and clear some salary and he’ll likely want to see Tamapa get something back through a trade rather than a straight UFA signing.
Why would he weaken his destination team with a sign and trade? He doesn’t owe the Lightning anything, especially Cooper who played him out of position, wasted him on the PK, and pared his minutes.
Reimer will land on his feet, but he may have yet another battle for a #1 job. I’m not sure that San Jose will want to pay him starter money to be #2, but there are teams that like him enough to sign him.
IF Stamkos has retained his Canadian citizenship and Canadian heath care he is also paying Canadian taxes on top of the state tax in Florida and the US federal tax. It is a lot closer than most people realize.I think it will depend on where he really wants to play as it will be about money.
“retained his Canadian citizenship and Canadian health care”
He hasn’t lost it, he has a house in Toronto and comes home each year. It’s better for him in the long run, to sign in Toronto. He’ll end up losing his American Visa and then only have to deal with the Canadian citizenship requirements. If he’s wanting more money, he’ll make more signing with the Leafs, in terms on contract dollars and signing bonuses.
As a Bruins fan I think I would pass on Looch 7 million a year can be spent elsewhere plus he is only going to get slower. The Bruins have to many over paid pylons they can’t get rid of
As I stated I don’t want Stamkos if it costs more than 9 million. TO’s selling point is Babcock, a complete first class operation, many endorsement opportunities, and a whole bunch of potential talent that is showing itself. It will take two years to be competitive in the play-offs and three years to become a top team. No guarantee of a cup but look how familiar this rebuild is compared to Tampa?
Detroit, Buffalo and maybe NYI all have good selling points also. There is still a chance he listens to everyone and decides Tampa is still the best option.
$8.5M in Florida = $10M in Toronto because of tax differences. You can’t get Stamkos to sign for $9M in Toronto – he’d rather sign $8.5M contract in Tampa.
(There are additional ways to advance tax plan in Canada to pay less tax in the end…)
Re Lupul
CArolina still needs to hit the cap floor. Francis wont take a Lupul without a sweetener.Lupul and Bracco for NYRs second next year. Or Lupul, Bracco and Bibeau ( slides in as # 2 goalie prospect ) for NYRs 2nd and Wesley.
Lou is going to do something with Lupul.
wings still grid of howards $ need size leadeship and a top dman id look at jets for relief and troumba sign ladd or lucic and dont spend more than 10m for stamkos give jets jurco #2 and smith
HERE IS WHY STAMKOS MAKES SENSE FOR LEAFS
1. THEY HAVE LOTS OF $
2. POTENTIAL LINEUP (OF FIRST ROUNDERS)
REILLY – MATTHEWS/STAMKOS/REIMSDYK
GARDINER – NYLANDER/KADRI/MARNER
RYCHAEL/GAUTHIER/KAPANEN
BERNIER
would arizona look like a team if pronger & datzuk cae out of retirement
Stomkas is leaving because of treatment by his GM & coach.Canucks will get Lucic
Wild will be busy as hell this week….. Watch! Trade and FA pickup coming. Herbie’s hometown team will make him proud.
This is coming from a long time Bruins fan (28 years. Lucic is worth nothing more then 4.5 million at best. He is a 20 goal scorer and that is it. Beleskey is a good comparsion now, beleskey played less minutes got less power play time and was up and down the line up all season long unlike Lucic who played with Kopitar all year long, and yet Beleskeys stats are very comparable. Stamkos being greedy is a reason why I wouldn’t want him on my team same as Lucic now. Stamkos has a real chance to win a cup in Tampa Bay but greed will prevail for this guy. He also isn’t what he use to be ever since he got his leg broke against the bruins a few years back. Look what Chicago is having to do, they are having to shed contracts of key players because they have a couple guys eating up way to much cap space. Bruins already went through this if a player can’t take a discount then let him go some place that has a lot of cap space because those teams usually have cap space because they suck and aren’t winning.