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KREIDER
Could the New York Rangers trade Chris Kreider?
NEW YORK POST: Larry Brooks speculates New Jersey Devils right wing Kyle Palmieri’s new contract (five years, $4.65 million annually) could be seen as a comparable for Chris Kreider’s contract talks with the New York Rangers. Earlier this week, Kreider filed for salary arbitration. If neither side accepts that as a comparable, Brooks speculates they could accept a one-year deal and reassess, or the winger becomes a trade candidate. Brooks believes Kreider’s power, speed and potential could make him highly coveted around the league.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Rangers could shop Kreider, but I doubt they’ll go to that extreme. I can see them agreeing to a two-year deal worth between $3.5 – $4 million annually and then revisiting talks in a year’s time.
RED WINGS
THE DETROIT NEWS: Gregg Krupa reports Red Wings GM Ken Holland admits his search for a top-three defenseman could stretch into training camp this fall. He could draw upon his depth in forwards as trade bait. Potential trade targets could include St. Louis’ Kevin Shattenkirk and Anaheim’s Cam Fowler. The asking price for either was “astronomic” before free agency. “So far, the Wings have been unwilling to part with some of the young prospects they have been assembling for several seasons, or NHL regulars like Gustav Nyquist or Tomas Tatar.”
SPECTOR’S NOTE: If the Wings want Shattenkirk or Fowler, they’ll have to part with a good young prospect and a young forward not named Dylan Larkin. It also wouldn’t surprise me if Holland is monitoring Tyson Barrie’s status with the Colorado Avalanche.
CANDIDATES FOR THE VESEY SWEEPSTAKES
CBS SPORTS: Chris Peters evaluates the teams that could pursue 2016 Hobey Baker Award winner Jimmy Vesey via free agency on August 15. The Buffalo Sabres acquired his rights earlier this year from the Nashville Predators. While Vesey indicates he intends to test the UFA market, the Sabres still hope to re-sign him. The Boston Bruins (his hometown team) and Toronto Maple Leafs (father is a scout with the Leafs, while his brother is a Leafs prospect) are also considered front-runners for his services. The New York Rangers, New York Islanders, Philadelphia Flyers, Chicago Blackhawks, St. Louis Blues and New Jersey Devils could also get into the bidding.
I suspect that Jimmy Vesey spurned Nashville because Barrie Trotz is no longer coach of the club thus Washington Capitals is the dark horse team for him to sign with and reunite with Trotz!
Frankly he totally fits the current regime “now” and “future” makeup of the team structure!!
Washington will compete for the cup this season.. From a Leafs fan and my opinion only.?
It looks as though Vesey wants to use the once in a lifetime opportunity to play for his hometown/favorite team growing up, the Bruins. They have roster spots open, and he stated that he’d like to play in the north east.
Ummm I’m pretty sure Toronto is also north east
Ummm – but not as FAR north-east as Boston! They don’t come any further north-east in the NHL than Boston. Hell, both Ottawa and Montreal are more north-east than Toronto.
Although I’m pretty sure he didn’t say “as far north east as possible” leaving his answer vague and open to speculation. Besides, for the most part players only seem to want to go “home” when their best years are behind them.
I don’t get or understand the Trotz reference? Reunite? Trotz system in Nashville was to play defense 1st & stifle the other teams scoring chances which also stifles your own. Laviolette’s system is far more open & driven to generate offense, not quite the run & gun system of say a Dallas but far more aggressive.
In Washington Trotz has brought a much sounder system to the Capitals but you can’t put a leash on the best goal scorer in the world. I don’t see Vesey even considering Washington, whether they have the Trotz or not!
With all rhe rumors and such going around, especially before the 1st of july with UFA status. I was wondering about the CBA and 7 or 8 year rule.
As a hypothetical; could you sign Stamkos to a 1 year deal and then the 2nd of july sign a 8 year extension? Or would that be prohibited?
I’m swedish, hope you understand anyway! 🙂
No problem. To answer your question, no, Stamkos could not sign a one-year deal and then follow up the day after by signing a seven-year deal. For teams to re-sign a pending UFA to an eight-year deal, they must do so before 5 PM ET on June 30. After that, they can only re-sign him to a seven-year deal at most.
Yeah, that’s what I dont get. After he signs the one year deal, he is now a pending UFA for the next season with that team. Then he should be able to sign a new deal that starts the following season. Maybe it’s claused as circumventing or something similar.
Anyway, thank you! 🙂
It would indeed be cap circumvention. The CBA prohibits such moves. After re-signing a one-year deal, they cannot re-sign him until after Jan. 1.
They are pretty tough when it comes to cap circumvention. They seemed to have shut down all avenues to prevent it happening.
I just hope Pronger doesn’t hit my new favorite Nj devil….. Savard!
I kid, I kid… Well not really.
Lyle’s nailed it. Once you sign a contract you have to wait until the following January to extend. Adoe you could achieve your scenario but would have to wait until after Jan 1st. A hypothetical scenario but unlikely it would ever happen as players want security. Injuries happen & signing short term deals seriously impacts your earning potential down the road if you suffered a serious injury. Insurance would help off set a career ending injury but not 1 that reduces your abilities or skills to negotiate a new contract. No better security than a guaranteed 8 year deal & a significant reason why contracts are signed for much larger terms today. Well that & it allows teams to cheat the cap front end loading.
Sorry if a 1 year deal. If longer then the summer before the last year expires.
Thank you both!
But it is allowed to sign a one year deal and then give him an extension 8 year deal it’s like any other player if they are in their final year you could sign them to an extension during anytime in the season. At the end of the day 1 year or 8 year it doesn’t matter if the player wants to stay with you’re team regardless he will just make a deal of 8 years and sign again after wards
Lyle, in regards to the red wings are they protecting themselves from the expansion draft by signing all these forwards so they can force AA and Mantha to the AHL? Or would they not need to be protected regardless of where they play next year. Still anticipating a trade for a Dman which is much needed.
Nielsen was signed to replace Datsyuk. Vanek was signed to a one-year deal to bolster their offensive depth. Mantha and AA cannot be protected by burying them in the minors because they’ve bothalready played two pro seasons. Be it at the AHL or NHL level, it counts.
Apparently they are using the rule for years of experience already set out in the CBA. So a year of pro experience is any 10 game NHL season, and any 10 game AHL season after a players 20th birthday. So players who come out of junior to finish a year in he AHL don’t burn a year.
That means you won’t need to protect any teenaged players essentially. That is why the Leafs wouldn’t have to protect Nylander despite the fact that this will be the 3rd season he gets 10+ pro games.
Seems to me if Vesey wanted to win now he would’ve just signed with Nashville. It’s Toronto or Boston imo.
Had Vesey signed in Nashville would he have helped get them by Chicago? I’m surprised he didn’t sign so he could play in the Stanley Cup playoffs. Some NHL players never get the chance & his was there for the taking. Not to mention Nashville is a very good team & getting better. They are very close to being a cup contender.
I think you just answered your own question. Nashville has an excellent chance at competing for the next 4-5 years.
I think he would have helped; although hockey is truly a team sport but 1 lucky bounce can seriously alter momentum, just curious as to what others think.
Face it, the attraction of Vessey is SOLELY related to the fact he’s a UFA so all it will cost any team to have a look and see if he’s NHL material is money – and the minimum entry level deal at that. He was a 3rd round pick, and if you go through all 3rd round picks for the past 10 years, there’s less than 5% that actually made the NHL and became serviecable NHLers let alone stars.
By far the best would be Brad Marchand (2006), Vincent Trochek (2011), Shayne Gostisbehere (2012), Matt Murray (2012), Colton Parayko (2012), Frederik Andersen (2012) and Anthony Duclair (2013).
Others include Zach Smith (2008), Adam Henrique (2008), Tyson Barrie (2009), Reilly Smith (2009) and Cody Eakin (2009).
I might have missed a couple, but you get the picture. Mind you, some team COULD get lucky by signing him along the lines of Gostisbehere, Parayko and Murray who NO ONE saw emerging the way they did. It’s a real crap-shoot.
& his skill set. I agree with you George the odds are against him but today we have the luxury of seeing a 23 year old player that has had 4 years of solid development. Were not talking about a raw 17 or 18 year old rookie who we have very little reference point for.
Vesey will be a top 6 NHL player & he will be right out of the gate. Whoever signs him will have to promise him & his agent that opportunity. Could he fail. certainly but he will be given every opportunity.
Scouting has improved significantly over the years. This isn’t the same small rookie drafted 4 years ago. Where he was drafted now isn’t relevant. Players fall through the cracks all the time. Dan Boyle was never drafted he’ll end up in the Hockey hall of fame eventually. Datsyuk, Zetterberg etc.
I have no idea what Vesey’s top end is but based on all accounts from people that are very good at this he’s a 20 goal 50 point winger as soon as next year baring injury.
Did you have the same opinion of Gaudreau coming out of College? I do very well in my pools as I some how pick & select these kids. At some point it’s more than luck though. depends on the type ofpool your in though. Mine are all points driven, no real time stats.
Sigh. Isn’t that exactly what I said above?
All good George. Sometimes hard to get the proper meaning from text.
While I do think the biggest attraction about Vesey is that he is the potential to add a free prospect, I think he is valued at more than the 3rd used to draft him. He is much further along in his development, and I think the probability of him becoming a decent NHL player is much higher than that of a random 3rd. His upside isn’t that of a top 10 pick, but if he turns into a player with value similar to DeKeyser, Bozak, or Krug then he is a big add that costs nothing, likely gets added to the roster immediately, and doesn’t need to be protected in the expansion draft. Even if he turns into Hayes, Shultz, and Reilly, it’s still like adding a young, cheap serviceable NHL asset for free.
Jimmy knows where he’s going today, he knew where he was going last month and he knew where he was going to go when he opted out of Nashville. It’s just a matter of waiting until that day in August when he can officially sign with either Boston(I hope) or Toronto(where I live)….as long as it’s not the habs, eat a s*&$ sandwich Montreal!
I have to ask, why when Drouin or Lindros are mentioned people lose their minds, but Vesey seems above such criticism?
Good point. All along I have said he’s a 50/50 chance of being a bust. The pressure is really going to be on him wherever he signs.
Maybe people see it the same way and dont care about this story any more. Or they all are so in love with him, they are blinded by how he has behaved.
Sure he has earned the right to do whatever he wants but if he screwed Nashville over by backing out of a deal then there are big issues.
Maybe because no one cares about Nashville ? Good question Nyr4life.
I think Lindros could’ve mitigated some of the criticism if he wasn’t such an A-hole in real life. There I said it haha
I always loved Lindros. By far one of my favorite players. And no. Not the shell of Lindros that came to NY. The Philly Lindros that could just dominate games.
In all honesty, I think Carl and Bonnie Lindros were the true A-holes. And Eric was more of the victim.
His parents weren’t there when he called Elvis Stojko a homosexual for being a figure skater, and they also weren’t there to pick him up when Stojko knocked him on his rear. He’s probably grown up a lot since his playing days, but he was a first class A hole by many accounts from people who met him.
My sentiments exactly Durtmchurtt! A week or so back when it was announced he was again a candidate for election to the HofF, I made the point that he lacks some of the attributed that make a hall of famer. Much like Ty Cobb who, aside from his on-field talents, was a first class a-hole and a flaming racist too boot. He should NOT be in the baseball hall of fame nor should Lindros be in the hockey HofF. It’s about more – or SHOULD be – than just stats.
Exactly, Dirt. I would actually be OK with Lindros having a place in the Hall of Fame but it should be in the bathroom, his likeness at the bottom of a toilet bowl so we could all crap in his mouth.
Bobby Hull is in the hall right?
Another example. Domestic violence in his history.
George O – How do you call Ty Cobb a racist, when everyone was a racist back then. He was just another guy in his era…
Vesey is playing with in the rules his rights under the CBA.
Neither Lindros or Drouin played by the rules. They tried to make thier own. Lindros won his battle, Drouin lost, but will win regardless as TB is a serious cup contender for years & he will be an integral part of that.
Is there a difference between spurning the team that drafted you, knowing you’d never play there when you did draft him or pulling the plug 2 years later? At least Lindros helped Quebec in that process more than hurt them. Vesey is a lost asset, that yields Nashville zero return.
I think Yankee hit the nail on the head . People are so in love with him, they make excuses. I can’t wait until he finally signs. I’ll bet anything for the losing fans he’ll be the biggest “prima donna” on the planet since Drouin.
It’s far simpler for me. Vesey hasn’t done anything he isn’t entitled to under the terms of the CBA. He’s playing by the rules. Now rules are stupid & I see the NHL working to alter them as it relates to players that choose the college route in the next CBA. The way it’s written favors the player significantly. Not sure what the best solution is.
Lindros could have withheld his services from Quebec for 2 years & reentered the draft & been drafted again by someone else. Those were the rules. He didn’t he withheld services from the team that owned his rights. Quebec choose to trade him but that decision by Lindros tainted him for me for ever, as has Drouin’s situation. Both were young & hopefully Drouin will learn from the experience & be better for it. Lindros’s persona never really changed for me, premadona that felt he was bigger than the game. Never liked, him still don’t but I do accept he was the most dominant player in his prime years in the NHL & certainly deserved to be included into the hall of fame regardless of my personal opinions of him.
I don’t like the fact Vesey has chosen this option but I don’t begrudge him for having done so. It’s his choice & allowable under the CBA. Nashville did get something for him. Murray in Buffalo was kind enough to give him a 3rd round pick, 76th overall in the 2016 entry draft.
I think we agree to disagree & I respect your right to your own opinion, we just don’t agree.
I wouldn’t be putting Drouin and Lindros in the same sentence or the same situation. Drouin played for the team who drafted him and wanted to play in Tampa, he felt the team wasn’t giving him the opportunity to play and requested a trade; we all know what happen from there. Lindros told Quebec not to draft him, and refused to put on the jersey when drafted, and demanded a trade for me Lindros was much more about entitlement and wasn’t playing in Quebec. Lindros snubbed the team and Drouin wanted to play.
A lot of good comments already.
Frankly, I think a big reason is that most fans don’t really care and/or haven’t really heard much of him. I know a lot of the guys I talk hockey with don’t even have him on the radar – his situation just never comes up. The kids got potential granted (he could also flame out too), but isn’t likely a generational talent like Lindros was and Drouin could be.
No not in the same league as a Lindros or Drouin, selected in the 3rd round 66th overall. In our fantasy leagues which are very deep, 20 team leagues, 24 man rosters, 12 man prospect rosters he’s been sitting on numerous prospects lists for years.
He’s now far more developed having played College for 4 years developing into a solid future top 6 LW. When people like MacKenzie, Button etc. & people & sities that rate prospects for a living classify him as 1 of the best players not playing in the NHL that usually means success is coming. Being older he will step in & develop faster than an 18 year old kid. He’s not Johnny Gaudreau but nor is Johnny Gaudreau him. Vesey has good size & is a solid 2 way player with skill.
He will step straight into the NHL in a scoring role & finish in the top 5 for rookie scoring next season. I have him at 15 to 20 goals & 45 to 50 points.
Hmm, Lindros was and is an idiot. Just my opinion but not sure if he ever won anything other than a gold medal in the Olympics in Salt Lake once they benched him. He had two brutal give aways that led to goals against Sweden in the only game that team lost and almost never saw the ice again. That’s a big part of why they won gold.
He was supposed to be a stud in the world juniors and Canada got smoked. He was a “star” in Philly but they never won anything. Lindros was always just good enough to be put on the ice in pressure situations where he choked. The epitome of a me first player.
Just loved watching him play, regardless.
The Legion of doom line was one of my all time favorite lines in hockey.
If that guy could have just learned to keep that goofy head up he would have been even better. TY Scott Stevens and Kasparaitis!!
I also don’t think you can put Philly or Canada on any one players back Lots of good or great players never won anything. Then you had some that fell into winning. Ray Bourque?
Although Kreider & Palmieri have similar career #’s, Palmieri’s 30 goals & 57 points last season are 9 more goals & 11 more points than Kreider had in his best season to date, 2014-15 & Palmieri until last season has never been given the same opportunity as Kreider to date. They have numerous similarities but aren’t true comparables for the purposes of salary. I’m with Lyle, bridge deal at 3.5 to 4. We need to see if Kreider’s brain will ever match his skills.
is it me or are there more all the tools and no toolbox players out there then there used to be ?
Not sure what that means? In a bit of a fog today. The growth of hockey in the US is staggering & the talent pool for the NHL is growing exponentially.
Brooks also went on to mention how much better Kreiders playoff numbers are than Palmieri’s.
I loved this guy since day one. He stepped right into his 1st game in the playoffs and looked like he belonged there.
He has a lot to learn. He needs to learn how to play both ends, and when NOT to take a bad penalty. Ultimately, as Brooks pointed out, he has a higher ceiling than Palmieri.
I see him settling at 4.-4.50 and revisiting this again next year.
For me it’s all math, almost all the time. Just the way my brain works being a chemical engineer. My world is black & white. I hate grey, I accept it exists but don’t like it & struggle to quantify what can’t be.
Kreider is a monster, 6’3″ 230 lbs. These monster players take longer to develop in most cases, I assume it takes time to grow into that massive frame. Similar to the lines of Dman in games played & seasons. Kredier still needs 2 more years to show what he will truly be in the NHL. 25 to 30 goals next season, 50 to 55 points, then the season following similar goal totals but he will start flirting with 70 points.
If his brain ever catches up.
The NHL has to close the loophole that allows college kids to become free agents. College is 4 years, it costs them nothing to hang out. Teams should own a player’s rights for a year after their junior or college careers end.
Starting with Blake Wheeler and going down the line, it makes no sense that a team can spend a pick (#5 overall) and get nothing.
That said…does Jimmy Vesey’s father have any qualifications to be an NHL scout? If not, I think his destination is obvious.
I agree & think it should actually be 2 years.
If a player selected in the 1st round doesn’t sign, teams are given a compensatory 2nd round pick determined by the NHL. Arizona for example received the 53rd pick in this years draft, later moved to Detroit for not signing Bleackley a 1st round pick of Colorado later sent to Arizona in the Boedker trade.
Players drafted later returns nothing.
No one forces teams to draft college players. If they do, one of the risks they take is the Vesey scenario. No big deal; draft players from junior or European leagues.
Vesey will sign with Boston, Buffalo ain’t got a chance neither do the leafs!
Leafs just dealt Bernier to Anaheim. Nothing about salary being withheld, so that’s a lot for a back-up. Leafs get a conditional 2nd round pick.
http://www.tsn.ca/maple-leafs-trade-bernier-to-ducks-for-pick-1.523469
That’s weird. I have to assume Toronto with held salary will be curious to get the specifics. Anaheim needed a solid goalie to share the load with Gibson. I had hoped Murray would give Enroth a shot.
Nice job George.
Why would they need to hold? Bonus is paid the Ducks are only on the hook for a couple mill and cap room for them isn’t an issue soo….
Agreed George, too much for a back up. Leafs rid more salary and get a pick out of it. Not bad.
They weren’t going to win with Bernier or Reimer as their stopper, so looks like Lou did it again. The man continues to amaze me, getting things done that few – if any – other GMs can accomplish.
Anaheim kind of needs a 1B guy. We can argue whether that is Bernier or not but makes sense to me. Gibson is young & has had difficulty staying healthy. Anaheim is a serious cup contender & if Gibson can’t carry the load due to injures someone has to be in place that can help carry the load. Murray has used the 2 goalie system much to the chagrin of poolies for years. I assume Toronto ate a significant portion of the cap hit. Lou isn’t forth coming with info but we will have the specific’s soon enough.
Bobby Mac you started your holidays to early, get back in the game.
Cost them 2 million for the conditional pick (bonus paid July 1st) ..
Is Cowen bought out yet? or is he still injured? If not, I wonder if the Leafs can trade him to a team in cap hell. Cowen’s buy out this year is actually a credit on the cap, so any team gets 650K in free cap space, so to speak. It does hurt next year of course where the cap hit is 750K. Crazy idea but can’t be too far fetched right?
Tazi.
Cowen is apparently injured so not elligable to be bought out. The buy out window has since closed. There is a 2nd opportunity available to any team that has a contract settled in arbitration. That opens a 48 hour window for that respective team. Should Toronto get that opportunity Cowen would need to be healthy.
There is a rumor circulating that his situation may end up in front of a mediator but who knows.
Leafs will hold 2 mil in salary.
They didn’t hold anything. The Ducks have the full cap hit but only pay just I’ve 2 mill in salary as the Leafs paid his bonus July 1st that’s not holding salary
Bernier flipped to Anaheim for a conditional
Sorry, I just don’t see Vesey going to Toronto…yeah Dad and brother have ties to the Leafs but whose to say his brother won’t pull the same thing and go UFA. Dad is a scout and would be on the road most of the time anyway. Boston yeah but only because of being his hometown. He is going to be a cheap signing so almost all teams will be able to fit him in and if his first requirement is about winning the cup then Buffalo, Boston and Toronto have no shot. He did say Buffalo was on his short list, also I read he prefers to stay in the northeast so I think Pitt may have the best shot.
Betting on a team to repeat – if a Cup is his ultimate goal – might be dicey. Doesn’t happen often and I don’t see the Pens as anything close to a long-term powerhouse.
I agree George. Chicago winning 3 in 6 years is shocking but their roster is still taking advantage of loop holes that have long since been closed now & the punishment for such may be just around the corner should Hossa retire early. 37 with 5 years to go on that deal. His & Keith’s contracts allowed Chicago to spend well in access of the cap in real dollars but not cap hit.
Why the NHL created this convoluted salary cap structure is stupid. Just charge the team the cap hit in real dollars. It would have eliminated all these shenanigans that are happening with contracts. Players making 14 million today & a million at the end.
People complain here constantly about say a Lucic for 7 years at 6 mil per. It’s only 7 years in length to get the cap hit down in the near term 3 to 4 years but the long term ramification is Lucic will hit the cap at the back end for to much & most likely not be worth it then.
Unfortunately this is the system & it’s not changing at this point, we just have to accept it. At least the NHL was kind enough to limit it to 7 or 8 years. Still way to long as far as I’m concerned. Who can run their business this way. Considering the cost of liability & injury insurance it’s not sound.
Well that maybe true but they will be more at the top of the standings next year instead of coming up from out of wild card contention…. I feel they will be in the top three next year hopefully when the playoffs start..
but if they were to win again which is…possible that woul be 3 cups in 8 years ?
Striker you blame the NHL as if it was their choice. Do you not think the NHL would of done much more if not for their negotiating partner the nhlpa.
I agree. Chicago is a serious cup contender still. Getting Campbell so cheap will really help. He may be old but still playing very well & just solidifies Chicago’s top 4.
Bernier is AHL material at best.
I could actually see him having a solid season. Perfect setting in ANH to prove he’s got something left
Omg hockey buzz has spurted the rumour Ceci to Edmonton for RNH. Claimed he is researching it. I think he gets his research from reading our conversations.
Hahah
RNH to play WHERE in Ottawa?? He’s certainly not better than Turris, and standing beside Zibanejad he would look more like the stick he is. I seriously doubt he’d be more effective than Pageau. AND he costs $6 mil per. Idiotic rumour.
Hockey buzz is absolutely the worst site for rumors on the planet. George, don’t think for one second these hacks put any thought of team fit or need into that hot garbage.
Not to worry George. Can’t see Ceci being moved. Can never say never but makes no sense.
eklund is eklund, RNH is a small non impact 2C why would ottowa even want RNH when Turris is better and Zbinajad is just as good as RNH and bigger and more importantly better defensively
their better off using the cap space to resign Hoffman, RNH doesnt help the sens as much as losing ceci hurts them
Well I agree RNH doesn’t fit on Ottawa with the current roster but I completely disagree with your guys assessment of him. To me RNH is much the same in caliber as Turris. Both are ideally 2nd line centres that can play 1rst line roll but never to the level of the top players.
I also don’t think Ceci is as good as you guys make him out to be. He is in my opinion a mid pairing offensive Defensmen. Which is fine cause he slots in behind Karlsson nicely.
Yet if Ottawa moved Ceci for RNH a fit could be made but would require another trade such as:
What if Ottawa then sent Zabinejad, Lazar and a draft pick to Anaheim for Fowler.?
Would that be fair for Fowler.
Ottawa would then have two solid centres with first line petential, Kelly and Pageua after them and Karlssonm Methot, Fowler and Paneif as their Top 4 D,
Now I have no idea if the trade sits Anaheim think they don’t need centres and a LW so it prolly doesn’t fit.
But yes I agree the move isn’t likely to happen and is a rumour likely made up by Eklund due to the contract discussions stalling between the Sens and Ceci.
RNH makes $6M he will never be a first line center and he is not as defensively able as Turris either . when Turris makes $3.5M and RNH makes $6M, one is valuable and the other is not….
RNH is wayyyyy overpaid for what he does, Turris is extremely valuable and he also plays game in game out, something we cant say about RNH
one guy has lived off his draft position and never put up 60 points…..the other has
The day I equate a players skill level to the money he makes is the day I stop watching hockey. I can evaluate talent all on my own and my opinion of how skilled a player is, is not dictated by the money he makes.
Then please don’t ever become a GM of any team I follow.
With any luck Vesey may pan out to be as good as Kyle Connors, USA College player of the year, who got snookered out of the Hobey Baker.
lyle hit the nail on the head….detroit fans think that Tatar or nyquist can bring back fowler or shattenkirk, but inconsistent forwards dont return top 3 defenders…..
even Holland knows that Tatar and nyquist cannot be counted on being relied upon as players to carry the load offensively. the signing of Nielsen and Vanek indicate the desire to spread out the scoring.
with the advanced age of the defense and only dekeyser in his prime, it will take quite a bit to acquire a top 3
Mark Scheifele signs for 8 years at $6.125 per. Good deal for Scheifele in the beginning, better deal for Scheifele, better deal for the Jets in the end. Glad no one wants to play in Winnipeg. Perrault yesterday, Scheifele today….Trouba tomorrow?
That’s a fantastic deal, better than MacKinnons who I really liked as well
Agree completely. Hope he can stay healthy.
Leafs paid Bernier a two million dollar bonus on July 1 so his cap hit is still 4 million but he is only owed 2 million in salary. Anaheim is not a cap team so they got a back up for 2 million. Bernier will play like he did at the end of the year and get a contract in free agency or he will crash and burn and have to head to Europe?
If Vesey did not want some city other than Buffalo or Nashville he would have signed.
First everyone says red wings are indeed watching all three.
Second my advice to vesey? Go play where you think you’ll be paired with someone who compliments your skills right now and a coach who you can communicate with you. I see Toronto and Boston as favorites for those reasons. Despite the connections to same.
Jimmy to Philadelphia, fingers crossed. Vessey, G and JV sounds awesome.
Does Brooks speculate he will be yelled at again this comming season