Updates on the Lightning and Oilers – September 3, 2016

by | Sep 3, 2016 | Rumors | 31 comments

Tampa Bay Lightning goalie Ben Bishop believes he was close to being dealt to the Calgary Flames.

Tampa Bay Lightning goalie Ben Bishop believes he was close to being dealt to the Calgary Flames.

 Ben Bishop was nearly dealt to the Calgary Flames, plus speculation on Mike Richards getting a training camp invite from the Edmonton Oilers.

THE TAMPA TRIBUNE: Joe Smith reports Lightning goaltender Ben Bishop believed he was close to being dealt to the Calgary Flames during the NHL Draft in June. At one point, his camp was in the process of working out a potential contract with the Flames. However, Calgary management opted instead to acquire Brian Elliott from the St. Louis Blues.

Bishop is in the final season of his current contract with a $5.95 million cap hit and a no-movement clause. He’s eligible next summer for unrestricted free agency.

GM Steve Yzerman has acknowledged he’ll have to eventually reach a decision regarding his goaltending before the June expansion draft. Bishop understands trade rumors could persist throughout this season, but said he’ll keep his focus on winning games for the Lightning this season. 

SPORTSNET: Among his “10 bold predictions for the 2016-17 NHL season,” Eric Engels believes the Lightning’s need to free up salary cap space to re-sign key players Nikita Kucherov, Tyler Johnson and Ondrej Palat means this season will be Bishop’s last with the Bolts. Engels believes promising Andrei Vasilevskiy is ready to take over the starter’s job with a veteran goalie backing him up. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Bishop’s apparent willingness to talk contract with the Flames indicates they could become among his potential destinations if things don’t work out with Elliott. No word on the Lightning’s possible asking price, but I’m guessing it was high enough to push the Flames toward Elliott.

A Bishop trade is certainly possible by the Feb. 28 trade deadline, but not a certainty. His no-movement clause limits potential destinations, as does his nearly $6 million cap hit. His UFA status next summer is also a significant stumbling block.

Teams interested in Bishop will want assurances he’ll re-sign with them. Otherwise, it makes little sense to waste valuable assets on a rental goalie who could depart via free agency on July 1. Of course, much will also depend upon how desperate a playoff contender becomes to bolster their goaltending by the trade deadline. 

EDMONTON JOURNAL: David Staples offers up his take on recent local speculation suggesting the Edmonton Oilers could extend a professional tryout offer to veteran center Mike Richards. While noting Richards’ weak scoring, Staples suggests the center’s puck sense and competitiveness could interest Oilers GM Peter Chiarelli. 

630 CHED (VIA TODAY’S SLAPSHOT): Chiarelli said he’d had some discussion earlier this summer about shoring up the right side of his defense. He could pick up those talks again but feels he’s pretty much done making moves for the foreseeable future. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Bringing in Richards on a training camp tryout would be an inexpensive, low-risk option for the Oilers to fill their fourth-line center role. 

 







31 Comments

  1. So – no undue pressure on Elliott in Calgary this year!

    • As a Blues fan, I can tell you….you have nothing to worry about with Elliott. He has always seemed to rise to the occasion when needed. However, he can be overworked, so a good backup to spell him will help.

      • Agreed Elliot will do great in the flames environment. The Flames rediculously horrible goaltending trio of last year left him more than enough room for improvement. He’s walking into a really good situation.

  2. Bishop is exempt from requiring a protection slot because his contract expires at the end of the season.

    I can’t believe these reporters are not required to fact check. Joe smith should think before he writes.

    • Wrong. His contract doesn’t expire until the end of June. The expansion draft selections are June 20. Bishop’s contract remains in effect during that period, as does his movement clause. As per NHL.com: “All players who have currently effective and continuing “No Movement” clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club’s applicable protection limits).”

      • Don’t all players with NMC/NTC have to be protected? Even if Bushop didn’t have a NTC or something, I doubt Vegas would waste a pick on a player who could and probably will go to UFA if they are slated to become one that summer.

      • I will work to find the article but I believe that the NHL said that any players who will become UFA’s on July 1st of 2017 will be deemed such for the expansion draft.

      • That link was dated June 11, before the NHL released its rules for the expansion draft on June 22. As per NHL.com, “All players who have currently effective and continuing “No Movement” clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club’s applicable protection limits).” I don’t see anything there specifically indicating players whose NMCs expire at the end of the season (which is midnight on June 30) are exempt from having to be protected.

      • Ron.

        Only NMC’s not NTC’s. Players with NTC’s can be exposed.

      • We’ll see but that’s what I believe will happen. Protecting players that will be UFA’s shortly following the expansion draft wouldn’t make sense. You maybe right, time will tell.

      • There are all kinds of oddities that aren’t fully clarified in the NHL.com release you quote about the rules.

        The cut off dates for example that make a player like Mantha have to be protected, even though he’s only in the 2nd year of his ELC. The differ from the cutoff dates for determining contract status. Only Lawyers can think this crap up.

        It’s all very confusing. The NHL could be far more forthcoming with a whole range of issues that they choose to keep us in the dark on as they think we don’t care, not the least of which is proper salary disclosure when announcing a player has been signed.

      • I think that the word “continuing” means just that. In other words, beyond July 1st., and into the following season.

      • Lyle you’re not correct. However even if you were it wouldn’t matter anyway the lightning could buyout Bishops contract on June 18. Since all monies had been paid the buyout would cost nothing and since there is no time left on the contract and no cap savings involved, there would be no cap penalty the following season.

        This is the reason the nhl officially announced that players with expiring NMCs do not have to be protected.

        Look it’s all really easy, the nhl is utilizing the waiver clause in the CBA in order to conduct an expansion draft without having to reopen the CBA which would require a full vote.

        I already explained this to you months ago when you claimed Fleury’s partial no trade excempted him from requiring a protection slot.

      • I didn’t make any “claim” regarding Fleury. I posted what was reported by Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman and Chris Johnston on the matter. It subsequently turned out they were wrong, but it was months before that was clarified by the league.

        When I cite something, I post a reference to support it. That’s why I linked to the NHL’s site regarding NMCs in the expansion draft. Again, here’s what it states: “All players who have currently effective and continuing “No Movement” clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club’s applicable protection limits).”

        Now, if you’ve got recent information that says otherwise, please share it with us. If not, I’m going by the info provided by the league. And until we see something different, there’s nothing in the rules released by the league that suggests otherwise. FYI, the expiration date of a player’s contract is midnight on June 30. That means Bishop’s NMC remains in effect during the expansion draft, unless he agrees to waive it.

        I also haven’t seen or heard anything that indicates a player on an expiring contract can be bought out in its final month. I didn’t see anything about that in the CBA. If you have a link or an example, I’d appreciate it if you can share that with us.

  3. No more pressure than a Stanley Cup final I’m sure.

    • With a far better team in front of him.

  4. It’s nice to hear Bishop is willing to sign with another Canadian club.

  5. So Vegas won’t select Bishop June 20 when he becomes an UFA July 1 …I thought (hoping) Calgary was in the mix for Bishop but probably too expensive. Short term deals in their net currently. Good managing allowing Gilles, UFA, and trade possibilities during and beyond this season.

    • Gillies and Parsons who made team Canada look like a joke at the summer showcase. Parsons stoned everyone.

  6. Baring trades TB is 1 team currently facing losing a very good player as opposed to just a good player or worse. As currently constructed accounting for players with NMC’s, should they not be open to waiving said NMC’s, TB looks to be protecting 7F, 3D & 1 G.

    Stamkos; NMC, Callahan, NMC, Filppula; NMC, Kucherov, Johnson, Palat & Drouin at forward, baring trade.

    Hedman, Stralman & Koekkoek at D, baring trade.

    Vasilevskiy in net.

    That means they are currently exposing Killorn, Namestnikov, Garrison, & Coburn. I assume if that is in fact what they expose that Killorn would be the player selected.

    With the loss of Bishop in trade or allowed to walk as a UFA & Killorn’s salary of 4.45, TB won’t have a cap crunch issue next summer. The math will easily work to sign Palat, Johnson & Drouin.

    The issue is how are they getting Kucherov & Nesterov in under the cap this season with only $6,272,499 in cap space?

    I assume Yzerman will trade out of both these issues somehow, so as to get Kucherov signed & get out of having to expose this quality of player come the expansion draft. People have been talking on the NHLnetwork about Yzerman committing to Killorn; I like Killorn as a player just not at 4.45 for 7 years, being a mistake. That wasn’t the real issue, the issue was committing to Coburn so early at 3.7 for 3 years. Those monies should have been used now to sign Kucherov & if not enough money left for Coburn to stay, allowed to walk & a less expense #5 D found.

    • Coburn is a 3-4 D man on any team for the most part. 3.7 is not all that expensive. There’s a ton of D men 3-6 that are not worth what they’re getting.

      • Sustr has logged more TOI/GP than Coburn in both the last 2 seasons although it’s very close. Regardless Coburn’s contract has put Yzerman in a tough spot be him a 4 or 5 guy. I like Coburn but I perceive him as a luxury not an essential ingredient.

  7. With McDavid, RNH, Draisaitl, Letestu & Lander all natural centers why would they entertain signing Richards? Doesn’t make sense to me.

    Edmonton’s forward group appears set to me & if anything, they have 1 forward to many now with only McDavid & Draisaitl waiver exempt on the current 13 forward capfriendly roster which doesn’t include Puljujarvi! I believe Puljujarvi makes Edm’s roster this season. Edm could carry 14 forwards once Ference is put on LTIR & only carry 7 D until other injuries hit.

    • Mike Richards gave up the moment he was traded to LA so it is kind baffling why they would take a look at this useless player unless they’re just playing mind games with the rest of the team.

  8. Draisaitl would start on the wing which is Cerelli’s style. Lander can’t produce and is not in the long term plans.

  9. This is more of a question than a comment. How long does a team hold the rights of a restricted free agent player? Can a player sit out for a period of time and become a UFA?

    • I think being a Sens fan and living through the Yasmin saga if a player sits out the contract basically pauses unless both sides agree to something else by renegotiating it. So the player does not get paid while sitting out and once he decides to return to the game he has no choice but to report to the team he is signed with and continue the contract where it left off.

      • Lol it auto corrected Yashin to yasmin

  10. I think trades this season will be few and far between. Lots of teams are going to lose a very good player for nothing. If the Oilers were to trade say Nurse for Trouba then they would lose a top forward to the draft.
    Only teams like Arizona and New Jersey , Boston, possibly Carolina will be able to trade for very good players. Teams already know who they are protecting next June. Adding a very good player will only muddy the waters. Expect the Oilers to look to trade Eberle to get down to the number they need to keep their elite players. Draft picks will be the currency for top players this season.

    • Draisaitl is not expansion draft exempt. He played (unnecessarily) in his rookie season and next year will be his third in the league. The only important players that are exempt for Edmonton are Mcdavid, Nurse and Pulujaarvi.