NHL Rumor Mill – February 13, 2017

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Could the Boston Bruins pursue Colorado Avalanche left wing Gabriel Landeskog before the trade deadline?

Latest on the Avalanche, Bruins, Ducks, Jets and Penguins in your NHL rumor mill. 

THE DENVER POST/THE BOSTON GLOBE:  The Post’s Terri Frei and the Globe’s Fluto Shinzawa report Colorado Avalanche general manager Joe Sakic is scouting in Boston as the March 1 trade deadline approaches. Sakic was spotted on Sunday during the Bruins’ 4-0 win over the Montreal Canadiens chatting with Bruins GM Don Sweeney in the press box at TD Garden.

Sakic will also be watching today’s Beanpot Final between Boston University and Harvard, which features four Bruins prospects. One of them is BU defenseman Charlie McAvoy. Frei also notes Sakic will be joining his club through swings later this week in Buffalo and Carolina to face the Sabres and Hurricanes. The latter has several notable young defensemen who could be of interest to Sakic, as he reportedly wants to bolster his blueline. 

Shinzawa observes notable Avs forwards Matt Duchene and Gabriel Landeskog could be available. Both are under contract beyond this season and Sweeney prefers long-term help for his club. Shinzawa believes landing such players could cost the Bruins a young player, a draft pick and a prospect. He doubts players “such as Ryan Spooner, Frank Vatrano, Peter Cehlarik, and Colin Miller” will tempt Sakic, but young defenseman Brandon Carlo could be a trade target for the Avs GM. Given the Bruins need for left wing depth, Shinzawa speculates they might take a run at Landeskog. 

ORANGE COUNTRY REGISTER: Eric Stephens reports the Anaheim Ducks depth in good young defensemen should make GM Bob Murray a popular man as the March 1 trade deadline approaches. Cam Fowler remains coveted (he was linked to Buffalo and Detroit) but he’s essential to the Ducks’ hopes for a long playoff run. Stephens observes the Ducks need more scoring punch and points out Colorado Avalanche GM Joe Sakic attended a recent Ducks game against the Florida Panthers. He suggests Gabriel Landeskog would provide an immediate boost at left wing. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: It’s no surprise that Sakic’s scouting trips are generating interest. The Avs were linked to the Bruins in the rumor mill for months. Something could be percolating between these two clubs. A blockbuster move at the trade deadline seems unlikely, but we cannot dismiss the possibility.

If Sakic moves Landeskog or Duchene, I suspect he’d prefer shipping them to an Eastern club. However, that doesn’t mean he won’t listen if the Ducks were to make a tempting offer.

I believe the Hurricanes could be a better trade partner for the Av. They have depth in good young blueliners, a need for a scoring forward and the cap space to take on an expensive long-term contract. Of course, that depends upon what Hurricanes GM Ron Francis wants to do.

The Sabres, meanwhile, are also in the market for a top-four defenseman. I don’t see a fit there with the Avs. 

WINNIPEG SUN:Ken Wiebe reports goaltender Connor Hellebuyck remains an important part of the Winnipeg Jets’ future, but wonders if they’ll either add an established starting goalie, acquire one who can split the duties with Hellebuyck, or bring in a seasoned backup via the trade deadline or  free agency. Wiebe lists Tampa Bay’s Ben Bishop, Ottawa’s Mike Condon, Philadelphia’s Michal Neuvirth, Chicago’s Scott Darling, Los Angeles’ Peter Budaj or Calgary’s Brian Elliott as possible free-agent options.  

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Bishop will cost a lot of money (perhaps $7 million annually) as a free agent and he does have an injury history, but he’s also a former Vezina Trophy finalist who backstopped the Lightning to the 2015 Stanley Cup Final. If the Jets are willing to pay and if Bishop is willing to come to Winnipeg, he could be their best bet.

I expect Condon will be re-signed by the Senators. Neuvirth’s had some injury and consistency issues in his career. Darling or Budaj could be a solid pickup for the Jets. Elliott’s really struggled this season in Calgary and his stock has plummeted.  

TRIBLIVE.COM: Jonathan Bombulie reports the Pittsburgh Penguins could add some blueline depth by the trade deadline. While a significant splash by Penguins GM Jim Rutherford seems unlikely, Bombulie reminds us Rutherford “sent Simon Despres to Anaheim for Ben Lovejoy and Robert Bortuzzo to St. Louis for Ian Cole” near the 2015 deadline and last year “picked up Trevor Daley from Chicago for Rob Scuderi and Justin Schultz from Edmonton for a third-round pick.”

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I doubt Rutherford swings a big trade before the deadline, but I can see him making a depth move or two. 

 









102 Comments

  1. If Sakic is willing to cut loose Landeskog and or Duchene, maybe he strips it right down to the bones and would be willing to move Barrie, in which case there would be a top 4 target for the Sabres?

    • Good point. There would defiantly be interest in Barrie. I know I’ll take slack for this, but if I’m Phoenix and someone offered the moon for OEL I’d have to listen.

      I personally view OEL in top 5 or 6 in the league and with 2 seasons left at 5.5 I bet 25 teams would inquire.

      I doubt Phoenix can afford his next contract and the return would be huge.

      • Really what’s another pick in a mediocre draft doing for the Sabres? If they were willing to package up their first (which would give the Avs likely to early 1sts) along with a D prospect like Guhle and a young centre… I think there could be a trade in there that helps both.

      • Twin, not sure why the Yotes would even consider moving OEL. It’s not like they are going to have cap issues any time soon. They are as well or better positioned to afford him than any other team in the league. They have a number of young prospects, OEL looks like a core piece you build around.

  2. Canadiens are sellers this year, or they should be. Since Therrien will stay as their coach, there is no chance to make play offs

    • Definitely going to be closer than it should be considering the winning streak at the start of the year again. After last years collapse and the way things are going again this year… I agree MT needs to go.

      • I’m not sure why they don’t call up Claude Julien and kick therien to the curb. Nothing would burn the bruins worse than to have to face their old coach hovering over their long time rivals bench.

      • Since they already tried a retread with Therrien, might we see a return of Julien?

      • Dylan, that makes for good conversation, and as a Bruins fan who respects CJ, that would hurt.
        Bruins need to give permission for teams to talk to CJ, think they would during this season?
        That would be an interesting conversation to listen in on.

      • Let Muller take the wheel as an interm seems to be working in some other places and he actually has NHL head coaching experience.

      • Yes, hard to win by putting your top center as the 3rd center and getting 14-16 mins per game while guys that should be bottom 6 are playing top 6

      • Dylan and others,

        The likelihood that Julien coaches for the Canadiens this season even if they fire Therrien is slim to almost none. The Bruins would never allow it.

        Claude Julien is still under contract for the Bruins. He’s essentially been “relieved of coaching duties” call if firing but regardless he’s still being paid by Boston this season and next. Bruins would need to grant permission for Julien to have discussions with Montreal let alone become their next coach. The likelihood that occurs between Neely and Sweeney allowing Julien to speak with and/or become the next coach for Montreal at this point in the season, same division, playoff race… there’s more of a chance Oilers are trading McDavid today!

        Bruins will not risk the chance Montreal catches fire under Julien and somehow foils the Bruins current run or run into the playoffs. After the last 3 games and the way the team has responded… management is likely ecstatic at the moment. They’re not letting their recently fired coach go to the Canadiens right now.

        No the offseason… different story. Ownerships (Jacobs) will want the money off the books if they decide to interview other candidates and keep that option open. They won’t bring in another new coach (outside of Cassidy) and pay him while paying Julien. They’re more likely to give permission in offseason.

      • Now* offseason … autocorrect lol

    • Montreal will make the playoffs but they won’t make it past the first round. They cannot beat whoever takes that first wild card spot; Washington (will finish first), Pittsburgh, NYR, or Columbus (most likely one of the two latter). This year’s 2-3 first round matchup out of the Atlantic could very well be the beneficiary of a beleaguered Metropolitan champion! If I was Dorion I would be looking to do something in Ottawa. Could be a weird year! Might as well go all in.

      • Dorion still has night-sweats over the Zibanejad-Brassard deal. He won’t make ANY deal where he has to give up something that might come back to haunt him.

  3. Colorado should move both Duchene and Landeskog. Take good young D in return along with picks and prospects. Keep Barrie and build from the back end. Hopefully they get Patrick in the draft and build around him and Mckinnon up front. With all their young back end depth Boston should be in the conversation….Duchene to Boston and Landeskog to Anaheim

    • Colorado may find it more difficult to unload forwards for the price they want. Edmonton could prove an example of that.

      • Agree with regards to Landeskog Steven.
        Duchene carry’s significant value as IMO he is a top 2 center on any team other than Pittsburg. Not easy to find those. The Bruins have enough centers, they don’t have room for Duchene without moving another one.
        If I am Boston I am not including Carlo or McAvoy in a deal for Landeskog, as suggested above.
        Not that Landeskog isn’t a good player, he is, but the Bruins have enough high paid forwards and when you look past this year they will have more as Pastrnak is due a big raise. The future needs on the Blueline outweigh the benefits of Landeskog. Keep the 2 best D prospects you have to address that.

      • if they trade for duchene, its almost obvious that they trade krejci for shattenkirk.

      • Not sure how obvious that is Matt. Didn’t St Louis just shed expensive over 30 players this past off season?
        Krecji makes over $7M.

      • Ray Bark,

        Blues didn’t shed Backes though. They tried to extend once before with a 3-year $5.5m offer. It was also widely reported that they were in negotiations until July 1st but wouldn’t go as far as Bruins did. I’m not sure that’s considered shedding as much as it’s decided to cut ties because the term and annual was too much.

        Not sure if there were other 30 + year olds that they shed though.

      • Just Ott

  4. If one team gets a bounce from a coaching change, like Doug Weight & the Isles, with last year’s Pittsburgh swap fresh in GM’s minds, coaching could be a high risk profession right about now. I often think it’s the GM position that should be upgraded on many clubs….but that seems harder to do.

  5. Personally I’m not ruling the penguins out of making a significant trade anymore. I’ve read at verious times this season the penguins being in on too many key trade rumored players to not have something in the works. Hearing that they where inquiring about Hamilton, Shattenkirk, Landeskog, and recently Duchene I tend to lean on Rutherford being up to something. Now I know mostly it’s Rutherford just checking in and seeing what the costs are, but the recent inquiry on Duchene has me seriously considering the penguins are going to make some kind of splash to push them a little farther, especially seeing the weakness recently with offensive quality dropping drastically when 3 or more forwards are injured. In recent articles I’ve read there was a discussion among analysis suggesting Pouliot and Fleury and probably the first round pick to the Avs for Duchene. Though I don’t believe for one second that will land Duchene, I do wonder with a couple of changes if a trade between the Penguins and Avs could be made.

    First off, let’s change the player from the Avs. I truly believe Colorado holds Duchene in higher regards then Landeskog. That being said let’s say Landeskog to the penguins. As for who, I do believe Pouliot and Fleury and the first round pick would be interesting in that trade, but I don’t believe Fleury is needed by the Avs and with no chance of making a playoff run this year is pointless for them. So let’s replace Wilson or Sundqvist in place. Also there would be a need of some salary moved.

    So basically I would have to ask does this look like a workable trade?

    Avs get: Pouliot, Scott Wilson or Sundqvist, Kunitz, and first round pick.

    Pens get: Landeskog and fifth round pick.

    • Other than just taking salary…. why does Colorado take on Kunitz?

      • Just that. Salary. Otherwise couldn’t get Landeskog under the cap this year. Plus Kunitz is on his last year so Avs would just have to ride with his cap hit just for the rest of this year.

      • Sorry, that’s just not cutting it. They’d have zero problems getting a much better package than your putting out there …. Without taking on a Kunitz in the process.

      • Like taking on Kunitz til the season is over is such a problem. Honestly I threw it out there as a beginning point. Not like I’m not willing to hear a counter offer. Personally if I was the gm I’d offer Maatta as the starting point, especially if they waited to season end.

      • It’s not a problem, but other than helping Pittsburgh out, It isn’t exactly a bargain either. The package without Kunitz is not a good offer at all. And I asked the same question to another pens fan yesterday. Why does Pittsburgh need a 6 million dollar 3rd line center… 24 million tied up in 3 centers? And roughly 50 million tied up on 7 players? That sounds like a recipe for a cap disaster.

      • I’m talking about Landeskog instead of Duchene. Landeskog is a LW. Honestly I see no reason to trade for Duchene at 6 million when Landeskog at 5.5 million and LW fills a better need.

      • There is a 500k difference between Duchene and Landeskog. That’s not a difference at all. Still the return would have to be better than what you’re suggesting.

    • Why would Colorado want Kunitz? He’s well on the downward part of his curve and is less than average when not playing alongside Crosby. And Colorado has NO Crosby. The Others mentioned have proven nothing at the NHL level and so amount to no more than [prospects. As for Pitt’s first round pick, that’s at least a 25 to 30 pick in an already mediocre draft.

      • Kunitz would be moved just for the salary. It’s a expiring contract so Colorado isn’t losing or gaining. Penguins would need the salary just to fit Landeskog in. Sundqvist is a solid center with a lot of potential to his game. Wilson is a speedy winger with a scoring touch that needs more playing time. Pouliot is the top d-man prospect in the penguins system that the Avs want. Honestly these aren’t garbage prospects they would be getting but I’m willing to hear counter offers.

        Honestly if I was the penguins I would offer Maatta as the top trade chip for either one if they waited til the end of the season.

      • I dont get the Duchene to Penguins talk at all. He plays C and can also fill in on RW. I would say the Pens have those positions locked up with Crosby, malkin, Kessel and Hornquist.
        In addition, Sheary has proven he belongs in the top 6 long term as well and can play either wing.
        The penguins also have to resign key components like Bonino, Rust etc next year.

        I just don’t see it. Even if Col take fleury back, there is no real spot for him there that I can think of

      • you’re starting to sound like a member of Leafsnation Ryan – with the over-evaluation.

    • Ha-ha! Sure 2 suspect prospects, both drafted almost 5 years; 2012, ago, neither of which might have NHL futures, a borderline NHL player in Wilson & a 1st round pick that will be outside the top 20 in a weak draft year.

      If Pouliot & Sundqvist don’t make the NHL soon they may never. Neither will be protected in Expansion.

      Pittsburgh’s keepers in expansion I assume are Crosby, Malkin, Kessel, Hornqvist, Letang, Maatta, Schultz, Dumoulin & Murray. Where does Landeskog fit?

      Good luck with that & here eat Kunitz’s remaining contract for us as well Joe. Thank you for helping us out.

      • Striker,

        Hit the nail on the head… Nobody is going to be helping out Pittsburgh and why should they? The Penguins also have one of the WORST farm systems in terms of overall talent and depth in the entire NHL and that’s not opinion it’s a fact. I haven’t found a single ranking in the last 6-8 months from anyone respectable where Pittsburgh is ranked in even the top 20 in NHL. Everyone has them at 25+… not good. Teams with big name players that might move are going to want good young NHL roster players, 1st rd picks, and top prospects (package of).

        I don’t see it happening. Same can be said for the Blackhawks for that matter.

      • FTR, Wilson is a fine NHL player. Was a top scorer in the AHL when he was recalled and could play 3rd line on most teams right now.

        And Sundqvist is developing quite nicely (though I’m not as high on him as some Pens fans) and will be the 4th line center next year to replace Cullen and possibly the 3rd line center depending on what happens with Bonino.

        Bad mouth Pouliot all you want. I hated that pick from the second it left Shero’s lips. And I’ve seen absolutely nothing from him to make me think otherwise.

        But yeah, that offer makes no sense for anyone.

        I’d be incredibly surprised if the Pens expose Rust or Hagelin. Especially to protect Maatta. The Pens will need his cap space to keep Schultz.

        I suspect they’ll deal Maatta to a team like NJ or Col that don’t even have 3 D men worth protecting after the season ends. And it wouldn’t shock me if they did it at the deadline if they can get the right Dman back in the deal.

      • Chad they said that about pens farm system before sheary/rust/dumo made the jump… so yeah… it is an opinion, not fact.

      • chrisms,

        It’s based on prospects in the farm, overall talent, projected talent, and compared to the rest of the league/teams and where there systems stand. That’s how they come up with these ranks.

        It is a fact that when you compare what there is to compare at this moment against other teams in the league that the Penguins farm system is towards the bottom of the league.

        Not sure you can say it’s opinion when the people ranking these are basing it off statistics, feedback from people that watch the games, etc. That’s there job to analyze.

        Opinion would be stating that you disagree with their rankings because of…. and insert some follow up. I’m not saying that the fact is they’re 25th and they can’t be 20th in the league, or 23rd, or 28th… or whatever but the ranks that are out by multiple outlets have them in the bottom grouping of the league.

        A lot of websites that analyze prospects and teams have Bruins anywhere from 13th to 5th… do I think that it’s a fact the Bruins are in the better half of the league… yes that’s a fact. Opinion is I think they’re closer to top 10 than being top 5 and 13th might not be giving them enough credit. That’s an opinion.

      • Col 3 keepers at D in Expansion are Jojhnson, Barrie & Zadarov. NJ’s Greene, Severson & Lovejoy. Yes both D’s are awful as is Dallas’s & several others.

        Maatta won’t be moved. He’s a 22 year old Dman with 217 NHL games of regular season experience.

        1 minute Pouliot’s an integral part of acquiring Duchene now he’s fodder. Scott Wilson is Pittsburgh’s 13th forward. He can’t make their top 3 lines with out significant injuries. There may be the odd team where he could make their roster but 3rd liner. I think not. Scoring in the AHL is great, in the AHL. Tons of players who could score in the A & never make the NHL.

      • I’m a Penguins fan first off, but agree here please take are garbage and give us one of your top 2 players and to sweeten are garbage offer here is a late first round pick

      • A hundred points in the AHL and a cup of coffee gets you a cup of coffee.

        Derrick Pouliot has little value, my guess 2-3rd pick…

        Pens might be better keeping him incase they lose Daley or Schultz

    • Cant trade maatta unless a d comes backin this or another trade. and the offer above absolutle would not cut it. 1st rounder, sprong, hagelin for money and some value. much more fair.

      • I can see putting Sprong in place of Wilson or Sundqvist. But Hagelin is to vital to the current system. Tough to figure out how to make cap space though.

  6. As a Bruin fan I could careless where Julien coach,s I only care how Boston is playing and watching the game last night I have to say Not Bad.

    • Obe,

      My brother and I were there last night. I risked the drive from Manchester, NH down into Boston during the Nor’Easter… my brother lives in Boston.

      Let me just say that the showing last night at the Garden was more than impressive considering the conditions. Place was quite packed and the loudest I’ve heard it in a long time!

      The CAREY chants were almost deafening and the Bruins generally looked like they were enjoying the game and playing up to their strengths.

      The big differences I’ve seen thus far in this team besides the visible lineup changes has been the following…

      – Stylistic changes to the offense
      – Emphasis on the D getting into the play
      – More north and south passing out of the D zone and through the neutral zone
      – PP looks and players on it

      Overall and I know it’s only been 3 games but it’s been impressive. I’m tempering expectations a bit because a lot of the time a coach firing initiates a spark and jump in the team BUT we also can’t ignore some of the glaring differences that this team has shown us over the course of 3 games. A lot of little things being done differently for those that watch the Bruins and follow as much as I do. I’ve been known to rewatch entire games just to analyze what I saw. I’ve seen changes. This bye week though could hurt.

  7. At this point if the Jets surface as a team on the rumour mill it should not be as a buyer. Even if they get Bishop he cannot help them until next year as long as Maurice is on the bench. This guy has to be fired! Such a disappointment this season for the roster he was given.

    • Really. They have played better than I thought they would considering all the injuries & Trouba’s hold out.

      The future for Winnipeg is very bright but this team is dressing a ton of youth at key positions. That isn’t generally a recipe for success, they need to mature a little more. Winnipeg will still be in tough to make the playoffs next season.

      To hard to project next season this far out with expansion looming but Ehlers, Laine, Armia, Morrissey, Lowry, Copp, Dano & Petan all need more time to become better NHL players. That’s a ton of youth.

    • The elephant in the room this year has been the poor play of big Buff. He’s been a total disappointment. When Noel left he had Buff on a forward line. When Maurice arrived he put him back on the blue line and he delivered. Maurice may need to use a threat to wake the big guy up!

      Goaltending has been less than sub-par and for any hope in 2017-18 they need to address the net first.

  8. The Pens absolutely need a #7 D man. They might even need a #6.

    But, they are missing 3 of their fastest players right now (Sheary, Rust, Hagelin) and it shows. I think they need a speedy depth forward.

    Lucky for them, such a player exists, is very affordable and should be available at the deadline…

    Victor Stalberg of Rutherford’s old Hurricanes.

    They don’t need Duchene or Landeskog. Just add Stalberg as injury insurance.

    Ron Hainsey might be a good fit as that #6 or #7 defenseman as well.

    Not sure what the Canes might want for one or both of those players, but it’s likely to be reasonable.

  9. I saw a rumour that COL was looking to package Landeskog and Duchene together for a better return. If MTL is looking to hit a home run, why not make the homerun pitch:

    To COL: Alex Galchenyuk, Nathan Beaulieu, Mikhail Sergachev, Noah Juulsen, Josiah Didier, Zach Fucale, Dave Desharnais, 1st 2017, 1st 2018

    To MTL: Matt Duchene, Gabriel Landeskog, Francois Beauchemin

    Your top six would become:

    Pacioretty, Duchene, Radulov
    Landeskog, Danault, Gallagher

    Bottom Six:

    Lehkonen, Plekanec, Shaw
    Byron, McCarron, Mitchell

    Defense:

    Emelin, Weber
    Beauchemin, Petry
    Markov, Nesterov

    Price
    Montoya

    • That’s 16 million bucks in salary moving from the Avs and around 7.5-8 leaving the Habs….I don’t see how the Habs are taking on nearly 8 or 9 million in salary

      • LOL. Boy, some people just don’t do the math, do they?

      • Sure, why not? Make fun of me boys. I’m just the same fan boy as everybody else, but why not make fun of me? Whatever makes the ole Sherwood between your legs feel bigger.

        But if it is math you want, then it is math you will get. MTL currently has 2.367 MIL in cap space available to them. That number may increase slightly by the time the trade deadline rolls around. By march first their will be roughly 40 days of the 180 days of a players cap hit left. Anything done at the deadline will be counted at a pro-rated cap hit for those 40 days. So busting out the trusty calculator, here’s what MTL would be on the hook for from those 3 players:

        Matt Duchene= $1,333,333
        Gabriel Landeskog= $1,222,222
        Francois Beauchemin= $1,000,000

        GRAND TOTAL= $3,555,555

        Now here’s the math on the 3 main roster players going the other way:

        Dave Desharnais= $777,777
        Alex Galchenyuk= $622,222
        Nathan Beaulieu= $222,222

        Grand total: $1,622,221

        If you add the 1,622,221 you’re sending the other way to COL to the 2,367,000 you already have in cap space your total is now: $3,989,221.

        Although my calculations may be slightly off, there should be no reason why these 3 acquisitions won’t fit comfortably under the cap. If you’re that nervous about the move, you could probably convince COL to withhold a mil or 2. Not bad for a guy who didn’t do the math, eh sunshine 😉

      • I’m not making fun of anyone just pointing out the difference in contracts I’ve made mistakes here before, happens to all of us.

      • That was more pointed towards George. But the math was for both of you Studilicious hockey geeks lol.

      • But since you seem to think you got it all figured out what happens next year with that 16 mill on top of 49 mill takes the Habs up to 66 mil with 17 signed and no replacements for Markov or Nesterov (your 5/6 D) Radulov Flynn Anderghetto and Beaulieu gone ? I..It’s still way too much money and I can’t see why if the Avs were to package them together they would hold $ on top of it.

      • If this move happens, then you’really most likely leaving Plekanec exposed in the off season. Vegas will most likely add him in the expansion draft as it gives them a defensively responsible centre with an albeit declining offensive upside. It also gives them a trade chip at the deadline to add futures to rebuild with. So there’s the 6-million to cover Duchene. You can not bother to resign Markov and that covers Landeskog. No longer being on the hook for Beaulieu, desharnais and Galchenyuk frees up the space to keep Beauchemin, Radulov and possibly Nesterov.

      • But then that’s more subtraction that you are not accounting for when filling roster spots…I suppose anything is possible but it it just seems like a real stretch that DD Galchenyuk Pleks Markov Beaulieu Flynn Andwrghetto and possibly Nesterov all have to come off a roster (8 guys) are replaced by 3 for the same price in order to resign Radulov it just doesn’t seem to add up lol

      • So I did a bit of number crunching on the matter and just based on the people you’d have under contract after the trade, you’d have 58-mil commited to 16 players (Including Duchene, Landeskog, weber and Price). If you were forced to hang on to Plekanec for one more year, that would bring you up to a total cap hit of 64-mil. that would leave you with 9 mil to fill 7 roster spots. If Vegas takes Plekanec off your hands, it leaves you with 15 mil to work with. Still in pretty good shape cap wise. Mind you I have yeat to resign Radulov in my alternate habs world, but if you move out Plekanec, thenb you can resign Radulov.

      • But that’s the thing, (honestly this is kinda fun talk not trying to rip on ya or anything) I think Radulov is likely close at least 6 if not more next year so even if Pleks move it leaves around 8-9 mill for 7 guys and no wiggle room and those 7 would include your bottom pair D a 3rd line centre walking and that’s not even getting into how thin at C it looks with only Danault Duchene Mitchell and McCarron is that really even an NHL line up at centre? Or how bad a bottom 3 D is gonna be if Beauchemin is your 4 and 2 guys named Joe making a mill or under each are your 5-6 D and you can’t afford a 7 I still just can’t see it but…

  10. A lot of rumblings this morning regarding Sweeney and Sakic last night. According to most Sakic was seen with Sweeney for the entire 2nd intermission and appeared to be in deep discussions. Another reporter mentioned that when Sakic had left the box, which was outside of theirs (reporter/journalist) box that they overheard Sakic mentioning how impressed they were with the kid and his play.

    Now… could be a bunch of smoke, media driven, and the general rumor mill ramping up before the deadline. Most likely is but it’s certainly fun to speculate and get excited. Might not read much into it but nonetheless it’s notable when the GM travels to a game and is also staying today to watch the Beanpot.

    A lot of buzz around Bruins land seems to be centered on Landeskog being in play to Boston, Carlo going the other way… but some Bruins journalist that I find to be more respectable than others feel is Carlo does go that the Bruins take a hard run at adding Shattenkirk before deadline and resigning before July 1st.

    Bruins appear to be very high on McAvoy, Lindgren, and Lauzon as far as the pipeline goes. McAvoy very likely to be on roster opening day next season.

    I know Colorado fans are feeling Sakic is watching Beanpot for McAvoy and likely he will but there are more than just McAvoy in those games today. Also, keep in mind McAvoy is assumed by many as already being NHL ready… Landeskog for McAvoy would not be a thing. Bruins would set their mark much higher than that…

    • Mcavoy would not get landeskog on his own it would have to be macvoy plus

      • I wouldn’t trade McAvoy for Landeskog even up, let alone in a package.

        He’s going to be a really good one. He’ll probably be on their top power play this April.

      • BBB,

        Bruins would not trade for Landeskog alone if it meant McAvoy + going the other way. There would be more value than just Landeskog coming back to the bruins. Package for a package.

        I still don’t even see Bruins entertaining any trade discussions surrounding McAvoy… Carlo is more likely.

      • Chad teams know what landeskog can do in the NHL, prospects especially d prospects playing in university are still a gamble

      • BBB,

        Bruins value McAvoy much more than just a college gamble at this point. Highly doubt he gets moved for Landeskog even if it were a 1 for 1 trade. Upside is far too high with McAvoy and his level of talent to move him for anything but a home run. Most say he’s NHL ready now and would’ve been on this team this season if it weren’t for him already being committed back to NCAA. His body is already that of an NHL defenseman and will continue filling out. Was also one of the more impressive defenseman that played in the recent WJC.

        Hobey Baker nominee as well and will gain quite a few votes. Could end up being a finalist. Bruins have something special in McAvoy and their defense needs the most work. Landeskog for McAvoy straight up wouldn’t happen.

      • Well they’re not going to hit a homer with macovoy still to early

    • Chad, do these journalists say who we are giving up for Shattenkirk?
      Yes that would be going for it if they got both. At least they are getting off the fence.
      Personally I don’t like giving up a D Man like Carlo for a winger. Then overpay for Shattenkirk, which is almost a given considering he can be a UFA in a few months. Doubt a discount is coming.
      Can you say cap issues again?
      McAvoy and Carlo are our 2 best young players, period. Followed by Zboril.
      Lauzon, not sure why you are so high on him. Might not even be the best defenceman on his junior team. Does he a have a chance to be an NHL regular? Sure he does. 50/50. He is a risk reward kind of player so it will be a while for him. He works hard, competitive guy. Don’t over rate his stats, he has been playing in the Q for very very good team.

      • I’m much higher on Lauzon than Zboril. Zboril has a lot of character issues and is a turnover machine. Has plenty of time to develop and turns things around but Lauzon’s game is much more complete at this point in each of their careers.

        I also base a lot of Lauzon’s play from what I saw during the WJC. A lot of high end talent playing and it’s a good judge of where players are at IMO.

      • Ray Bark,

        Also, it didn’t say just that if the Bruins were prepared to move Carlo this season for top 6 help/scoring that they must have a plan in place to replace Carlo on the defensive side of things and that it’d be a Top 4. Shattenkirk was who they identified as the guy.

      • Ya, I get that. Shattenkirk is a good player, but I doubt he takes a discount to play in Boston. WIth Landy and Shattenkirk added to the payroll, plus a big raise for Pastrnak coming, they will have a cap problem.
        Part of the reason, at least I thought, for building through the draft is having young players on controllable and less expensive contracts.
        That is part of what makes Carlo so attractive; he is on an ELC and has no leverage on his next one. And is already playing over 20 minutes a night. That is Gold in the flat cap era.
        Zboril is having a great year for Saint John and also played well in the WJC. For a way worse team mind you. Zboril is a big guy, great shot, and great mobility in all 4 directions (scouting report). The guy is physical can defend as well. Better physical gifts than Lauzon, but that doesn’t mean he will be a better player. Only time will tell on that one.
        These trade deadline deals are exciting for this year know doubt, it will change that team significantly for the better.
        Not sure about the future though….. so you better win if you do it.
        Ballsy moves if they happen.

      • Ray Bark,

        Zboril is having a good year based on his production. He’s a turnover machine and a huge liability for that team. However, it’s still too early to judge whether he’ll be a good pick or not. I’m just not completely sold… could go either way with him.

      • Chad too early just like all young dmen

  11. If I was the Jets GM this is how I would clear house
    Pavelic to Edm for a 2nd rnd pick
    Perrault and Edm 2nd rnd pick to Was for Vrana
    Stafford and Jets 2nd rnd pick to Ana for Theodore
    Enstrom and Dano to Pit for Fleury and Pouliot

    Restock the cupboard with some young def and be in a better place for the expansion draft by trading Enstrom (If we will waive his NTC to go to a contender)

    • Those might work in NHL 16, but not one would happen in the real world.

      They might get a 5th for Pavelec. Ducks and Caps aren’t trading their top prospects.

      And with all due respect to the people in Manitoba, Winnipeg is the reason NTC’s exist. Veronique Fleury isn’t waiving Marc’s to go there.

      If I was the Jets GM, this is how I would clear house…

      Fire Paul Maurice. Hire a coach who can get them to play a bit less like a pickup roller hockey team.

      Which means hiring a coach who can get through to Byfuglien.

      • The sheer talent in Winnipeg is stunning.
        Scheiefele, Laine, Ehlers, Wheeler, Buff, Trouba, Myers, Little are all very good to elite players
        Their 4th line is stafford, Perrault and Petan – all these guys are top 9 forwards on almost all other nhl teams
        How they don’t make any playoff noise is pretty crazy.

      • As someone who has lived through Winnipeg winters I can understand your sentiment on the NTC.
        If you fire Maurice, who do you bring in? Key thing needed in Winnipeg is a coach who can handle and develop the young talent. As good a job Julien did in Boston that really wasn’t his strength. As far as Buff the locker room and management love him so he is a coach killer no matter who comes in.

      • Trent,

        He’s been known to do quite well with youth as long as they have a high level of talent. I think where Julien struggled was with the players who needed more time to develop, non 2-way style rookies, etc. His issue was also with mistakes as he was more apt to bench a rookie if they made a bad pass or turnover.

        I heard it put the other day very well after the Bruins won against Vancouver and Pastrnak scored the goal in final few minutes. If that had been Julien coaching that goal never happens. Reason being, Pastrnak turned over the puck earlier in the game, which resulted in a goal for the Canucks. Julien would’ve lost him mind and shortened Pastrnak’s shifts the remainder of the game. No way Julien gives Pastrnak a shift in final 2-3 minutes of that game. Instead, a guy like Cassidy gives Pastrnak a shift towards of end of game and he scores game winner.

      • I’d bring in a Ken Hitchcock type and maybe even Hitch himself.

        If Therrien were to get fired, I’d hire him in a minute if I were the Jets. His taskmaster act gets old, but it really builds up a culture and structure before it does. The Pens don’t win the 2009 Cup without MT laying the ground work.

        I think Julien or Gallant would be an upgrade over Maurice, as well.

        I think they have so much talent they could play a tight checking, structured counter punching style instead of the pond hockey approach they use now and still score plenty of goals.

      • Chad, that take on CJ is not based in reality. CJ was there for 10 years. So the young players he has developed at the NHL level are; Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, Kreicji, Krug (was one dimensional), Carlo, Boychuk, McQuaid. I am sure there are more that have been trade or I just can’t think of.
        The Bruins have been in the business of winning, he taught many of them how to do that and had exceptional success.
        If you are a player who won’t play the right way, or can’t, you don’t play. He gives you more chances and it is up to the player.
        Same as Babcock, Hitchcock, Scotty Bowman, etc. All the great coaches have the same philosophy.
        When he came to the Bruins they were brutal. How did they do after that?

      • Ray Bark,

        I mentioned that he has had success with young players… did you miss that?

        Also, it has been widely known that young players do have difficulty in his system and his patience is rather short when it comes to mistakes. Not all of those players jumped onto the Bruins and suddenly Julien was their saving grace and showed them the light. A lot of them possessed a lot of skill/talent. He showed them how to have a more complete game but there have been plenty times in many of those players careers under Julien where he’s benched, put on the 9th level, or stopped giving shifts to for an entire game because of a mistake. Mistakes happen and a lot of the time that’s how players grow.

        He was a great coach for this team. Brough the city a Cup. The talent level that the team had at the time was great as well. We can’t forget that either.

  12. Honestly if I was the penguins GM I would say to the Avs. Hold onto Landeskog til the offseason. Call me the day after the expansion draft and I’ll trade you Maatta, Sheary, and Sprong for Landeskog and a middle draft pick.

    Right now though it’s hard to trade Maatta and Sheary is currently on the disabled list. Would be extremely hard for another team to best that deal.

    • I just don’t see why the Penguins need Landeskog. Especially by giving up a cost controlled asset in sheary.

      Sure they have Letang coming off the books but have to resign (or replace) Bonino, maybe cullen, Archibald,dumolin, schultz, Daley and sheary

      The year after they have to sign Cole, Hornquist, Rust, Kuhnackl

      I might even be missing some here.

      • Let an isn’t coming off the books. Dumolin is a RFA and will be resigned. Schutz I agree with resigning and would expect it to be around a Maatta deal. We will lose Daley. Cullen will retire. Bonino could resign if at 3 million a year or less. If you use sheary in trade who cares about resigning. Archibald is a minor leaguer and will be signed as one.

        Not even going to touch the following year as things happen threw out the season and don’t know how much will change and how trades will go that season.

        If you haven’t noticed you have to damn the future to win now and we are currently in the best years of Malkin and Crosby. Landeskog contract keeps control of him for the bulk of those years. I’ll take him at a 5.6 million a year hit for that run.

    • OMG no.

      I’d rather have Sheary over Landeskog outright, definitely not giving up a potential all star talent like Sprong, too.

      Conor Sheary is the best fit on his wing that Crosby has ever had in his entire career. They think the game the same way.

      • Lol sprong and all star talent shouldn’t be used in the same sentence! 3rd liner maybe second

      • MG, You don’t know your NHL talent as well as you think. plus Sprong iisn’t going to be a all-star in Pittsburgh. Maybe on a rebuilding team.

  13. Chad. It’s an opinion by the rankers about depth… it could be a fact that they ranked the players low. But nobody knows how players will develop… it’s an opinion.

    • Chrisms,

      Agree to disagree with this one. How you view the ranks is an opinion. The information they use to analyze and rank the teams is based on facts such as statistics. You’re correct that nobody knows for certain how players will develop but by that notion every teams farm system is the same and all prospects are considered equal as have no idea whether a 5th rd pick will be the next Crosby or a 1st rd top 10 will be the next Seth Griffith…

      • Chad, Google “appeal to authority”.

        An opinion doesn’t become a fact because of a job title.

        And a lot of those lists are made by bloggers. Not scouts.

        TO Chrims point, the Pens system was deemed to be barren last year, too.

        Then it produced 4 key pieces of a Stanley Cup contender, including a Cup winning goalie and a top line winger. It would have been 5 had Wilson not gotten hurt.

        And this year, it’s produced Jake Guentzel, who looks to be a future top 6 forward.

        And Daniel Sprong might be better than any of them.

        So, I hope our system is equally empty this year. And for years to come.

      • MG,

        The information they use to rank those prospects and subsequently the organizations pool are based on tangible evidence. They’re not pulling names out of a hat and saying, good, bad… top 6, top 4, bottom 9, backup goaltender. They base it off performances, stats, and use a lot of different information to formulate projections. The statistics and information that’s in front of them are facts. That’s what the player has either done or not done in the games they’ve played and levels they’re playing at.

        If they rank a team various spots between 20th-30th overall… hard to argue that their organization is 10th overall whether you’d like to think that or not. Now, if some players that you didn’t expect product and become great players well then that’s unaccounted for but you can’t account for that to happen. Otherwise, most prospects in a teams farm system would be held to a standard that they’re the next Brad Marchand, or Patrice Bergeron and shouldn’t be moved because they’re valued to highly.

        That’s just not how it works. Prospects are assigned value with the information that’s available. If they become something better than it’s great for the organization.

      • No, seriously…

        Google “Appeal to Authority Fallacy”.

      • MG,

        I know what the appeal to authority notion is. I don’t read everything that’s written on hockey players and automatically believe it. If I see multiple reports or analysis written across the board on a subject and the MAJORITY seem to identify the same thing then I base my judgement around that. Do I always agree no but that would be my opinion. They know a lot better than I do who the prospects are, where they’re at, and projections. I’d side more often than not if the MAJORITY feel the same way.

        Also, I’m not saying any of those prospects won’t turn out great or the ones that don’t have high expectations won’t become top line players. Nobody knows that but what is known is how they’ve played to this point and the numbers and feedback from coaches that allow for projections and these rankings to occur.

        I also do a fair amount of my own research especially with prospects because I enjoy that aspect of hockey almost equally as much as watching NHL games.

      • Chad, I’m just specifically addressing your repeated use of the word “fact” to describe their analysis.

        That they use statistics and other things to form their opinions (and thus rankings) does not make them facts.

        If they were facts, all of the different evaluators’ rankings would be exactly the same.

        They are opinions. If you want to argue their opinions are more informed than the average fan, you’d have a solid argument. At no point will their opinions (or rankings), no matter how well informed, be facts.

        That’s all.

    • Chrisms,

      Like I mentioned below with MG… I’m not stating that any prospects won’t turn out to be all stars and hall of farmers and that some scrub taken in the 5th won’t be next McDavid. You’re right nobody knows how a player develops. Those ranks are based off of what is known in the present and how they calculate a trend/projection.

      If there are multiple rankings that are quite similar… maybe they’re onto something. They know these things better than I do as I have a day job that doesn’t include ranking prospects and team farm systems…

  14. Hags is a good piece but I’ll take landy or dusch over him in a second. Getting either will take a vital piece going back.

  15. Can’t trade maatta unless another top 4 d man comes back

    • Can easily trade Maatta and not need a top 4 d-man in return.

  16. Why would Fowler be the Dman the Ducks keep? They’ve got Vaataanen & Lindholm signed long term, (plus Theodore who will be ready at some point) and it was vaatanen on the point for their PP1. Honestly I’m surprised Fowler is there & doing this this year.

    Fowler’s only signed thru mext season. Vaataanen would slide nicely right back on their PP1 and they wouldn’t miss a beat.

  17. We all need to remember Colorado has a very good chance in drafting Nolan Patrick so trading one of there young forwards for a D man is probably a good thing.