NHL Rumor Mill – February 3, 2017

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The Colorado Avalanche still want a hefty return for center Matt Duchene.

Another list of trade candidates plus the latest on the Avalanche, Blues & Canadian teams in your NHL rumor mill.

SPORTSNET: St. Louis Blues defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk, Colorado Avalanche forwards Matt Duchene, Gabriel Landeskog and Jarome Iginla and Detroit Red Wings left wing Thomas Vanek top Mike Johnston’s list of this year’s top 20 players who could be moved by the March 1 trade deadline. Arizona Coyotes forwards Martin Hanzal and Radim Vrbata, Tampa Bay Lightning center Valtteri Filppula, Pittsburgh Penguins goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury and Coyotes blueliner Michael Stone round out the top 10.

Dallas Stars winger Patrick Sharp, Anaheim Ducks defenseman Cam Fowler, Winnipeg Jets goalie Michael Hutchinson, Lightning netminder Ben Bishop, Coyotes right wing Shane Doan, Wings goalie Petr Mrazek, New York Islanders defenseman Dennis Seidenberg, Blues center Patrik Berglund, Wings forward Tomas Jurco and Isles forward Ryan Strome fill out the list from 11 through 20.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Most of the usual suspects are here. Of these, Shattenkirk, Iginla, Vanek, Hanzal, Vrbata, Fleury, Stone, Sharp, Bishop,Seidenberg, Berglund and Jurco could move. The Avs reportedly see too much for Duchene ($6 million annual salary-cap hit) and Landeskog ($5.5 million per season), whose contracts are difficult to move in-season. Filppula ($5 million cap hit through 2017-18), modified no-trade clause) is also tough to move. I don’t see much of a market for Hutchinson, who’s struggled this season. Doan might accept a trade, but there’s no certainty he will. The Isles could remain patient with Strome and see how he performs over the remainder of this season. 

TORONTO SUN: Mike Zeisberger and several of his PostMedia colleagues examined the trade possibilities for Canada’s seven NHL teams. The Montreal Canadiens, Ottawa Senators and Edmonton Oilers are considered buyers, as are the Calgary Flames if they remain in the wild-card chase. The Toronto Maple Leafs could be buyers or sellers, the Winnipeg Jets are mostly sellers and the Vancouver Canucks are expected to stand pat.

The Canadiens are in the market for depth at center and have been lined to Arizona’s Martin Hanzal and Colorado’s Matt Duchene. Defenseman Nathan Beaulieu is listed among their potential trade chips. The Senators could look for more forward depth and reportedly kicked tires on Hanzal, Duchene and Gabriel Landeskog. They could dangle goalie Andrew Hammond and forwards Curtis Lazar and Nick Paul.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: If the Coyotes seek a more reasonable return for Hanzal besides a top prospect and a first-round pick, the Habs or Sens might consider it. Same goes for the hefty price tag the Avs set on Duchene. More on that below. 

The Leafs want to win but not at the expense of mortgaging the future. They’ve been linked to St. Louis Blues defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk. Forwards James van Riemsdyk and William Nylander have popped up in trade rumors. If the Jets go into sell mode, they could shed players on expiring contracts like Ondrej Pavelec and Drew Stafford.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I can see the Leafs passing on Shattenkirk and looking for more affordable blueline options near the trade deadline. I don’t believe they’ll part with van Riemsdyk and Nylander. If the Jets don’t gain ground in the standings by March 1, the purge of pending UFAs will begin. 

The Flames need help in goal and a second-pairing defenseman to skate with T.J. Brodie. They’ve also been linked to Hanzal. Trade chips could include Deryk Engelland, Dennis Wideman and maybe Brian Elliott. The Oilers need a third-line center and a quality backup for starting goalie Cam Talbot. As for the Canucks, if they make a move at all it’ll be a straightforward hockey trade (player for player).

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I expect the Oilers will be busy near this year’s deadline as buyers. They’re a playoff club and Chiarelli has a history of swinging deals near the trade deadline. The Flames could go either way, buyers or sellers. I also believe the Canucks will stand pat. 

TSN:  Bob McKenzie reports there’s no firm offer on the table for Colorado Avalanche center Matt Duchene. It’s believed the Avs seek three or four high-end pieces in return for Duchene. If it’s three, they seek a young (20-to-24 years old), established high-end player along with a first-round pick and a top prospect. If a young player isn’t available, the price goes up for those four pieces.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Those high prices are why I don’t see Duchene being moved before the March 1 trade deadline. Such moves are rare during the season.

Darren Dreger speculates the Montreal Canadiens could have interest in Duchene or Arizona Coyotes center Martin Hanzal. They like the 6-foot-6 Hanzal to fill that second-line center role, allowing them to move Alex Galchenyuk to the wing. Pierre LeBrun reports 10 teams are interested in Hanzal, who’s a pending free agent,  and the Coyotes are narrowing that list down.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Hanzal has size and two-way skills but he’s not a high scorer and has a long injury history. Buyer beware. 

LeBrun also reports several teams, including the Boston Bruins and New York Rangers, have called the St. Louis Blues about defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk. All the calls so far are in picking up Shattenkirk as a rental player, rather than a sign-and-trade that could cost up to $7 million per season. Dreger said the reality is most teams have him ranked as a second-pairing defenseman.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Shattenkirk is a good puck-moving defenseman, but as Dreger points out, teams are leery of overpaying long term for a second-pairing blueliner. I’ll be very surprised if a sign-and-trade scenario involving Shattenkirk takes place before the March 1 deadline. 

McKenzie reports the Avalanche are also flush with potential rental players such as Rene Bourque and John Mitchell.

Dreger reports teams are calling the Ottawa Senators about young forward Curtis Lazar, who’s still on his entry-level contract. The Sens are listening but they don’t want to give up on Lazar just yet.

FANRAG SPORTS NETWORK: Chris Nichols cites LeBrun telling Montreal’s TSN 690 that the Buffalo Sabres could be well-positioned to benefit from the Shattenkirk sweepstakes. He suggests the Sabres could try to peddle pending UFA blueliner Dmitry Kulikov on deadline day to one of the clubs that fail to land Shattenkirk. 

Nichols also cites Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman telling Edmonton’s 630 CHED that there are teams that could be willing to use their first-round picks in this year’s draft, perhaps even some with picks among the top-10 in the draft, as trade bait to land Shattenkirk. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The 2017 NHL draft reportedly isn’t as deep as recent ones, which might explain why some teams could dangle their first-round picks. I think the Sabres could find some interest in Kulikov. He’s recently returned from a back injury, so those clubs might want to watch his performance throughout this month to ensure he’s fully recovered. 

 








88 Comments

  1. Lyle – you need to fix the title. wrong date

    • Done, thanks! Need another coffee! 😉

  2. In fact, Dreger claimed the price on Lazar would be “extremely high”…

    I would just point out that there are currently 4 goalies in the NHL with more points than Lazar and a further 20 goalies with an equal number of points.

    Lazar’s AHL production is also non-existant. This is not a pro hockey player.

    • I feel like it’s more of a “potential” thing with lazar. He’s still a prospect and could turn the corner eventually. With that being said, Edmonton didn’t get much for yakupov or pjaarvi when the dumped them.

    • Dan39 lazar has just been ” unlucky” lol

    • By high they probably mean a second

  3. Doubt Cam Fowler will be among the ones getting dealt as Anaheim is trying for a cup themselves. Only teams out of it will be sellers.

    • Gary….I agree i live in Los Angeles (born and raised in Pittsburgh) i see Cam Fowler all the time and it amazing me that he was available for so long. Now like you said doubt he is traded why would you move a 24 year old all start who can skate like the wind, play the power play and is an excellent passer…these guys are hard to get…… now they want to keep him….a duh. Watching Burns, Doughty and Fowler on defense in the all star game amazing

    • I really don’t think Anaheim will move anyone of their d-men until the offseason and before the expansion draft.

      • Maybe a younger one if it landed them a proven forward to get them over the top, but I think most the current group likely stays even beyond expansion, they could just buyout Bieksa

  4. Beaulieu, Juhlsen, and this year’s first for Duchene. If that is not enough move on….Lazar should be worth a second round pick and unless that is high why bother…Hanzal is good if and when in the line up. You can not count on him. Conceivably you could land him and he misses the play-offs

    • I’m not sure Beaulieu has proven enough to be qualifying as à the top 4D man they are looking for.
      Sakic should hold off till the off season and try to pull a one for one trade the same way Nashville and Columbus did.
      Anaheim will need to unload a Dean before expansion and are always looking for scoring on the wing. The duch plays LW also. Match made in heaven?

    • There is no way MTL takes that big of a hit on their defensive depth chart to acquire. MTL has one of the deepest blue lines in the league. They got Nesterov to add to it, not to further subtract from it.

      • Their is no way, I meant, MTL moves Beaulieu for Duchene; having just added Nesterov. Their are better and more affordable rental options in Thomas Vanek and Brian Boyle.

      • Not a chance vanek comes back to montreal

  5. Interesting on TSN Overdrive yesterday both Button and Ferraro think that Nyllander will be dealt within the next 12 months for a Dman. Considering what the oilers gave up for Larson, its going to take a decent piece to get a top 3 D man back

    • No, it isn’t Scott. Nobody is ever going to be as desperate as the Oilers were and consequently nobody is ever going to overpay that badly again.

      -How much did Stralman cost in a trade? Nothing
      -How much did Petry cost in a trade? Nothing
      -How about Chara, Suter?
      -How much did Schultz cost? Very little
      -How about Byfulglein, Leddy?

      This idea that you can’t get top four Dman or that they are going to cost a fortune is nonsense. it simply isn’t backed up by the history – Oilers aside.

      • There is too much Nyllander talk not to be some truth. I agree with the two on Overdrive. Nyllander will be traded within the year

      • Scott, there has never been any rumour ever reported about Nylander being traded. No discussion reported ever by any journalist of the Leafs talking to other teams about trading Nylander. None.

        The speculation about possibilities is just that.

      • Stralman,chara,suter different time, byfulglein,leddy were because of the cap and petry, Shultz were ufa and rfa that looked terrible! Not great examples and nylander won’t cut it for a top 3

      • Doesn’t change the fact that the price on those Dmen matches what Dan mentioned.
        You talk as if those aren’t the realities of today’s game.
        The cap is very real and these casualties will happen. With the expansion draft upcoming there is an even greater opportunity to land certain players.

        This is why relationships are created, its the way the entire business and sales world operates. Thats exactly what Lou has with 29 other clubs.

        This is just another bad response by you where you simply refuse to see any possibility or be open to any opinion but you own.

      • Also I would go back and see what the experts said about the Petry deal, it was hammered as a terrible trade for the Oilers because it was just that. Petry was a developing defenseman who played hard and did everything. Still does that today, he shoots, hits, blocks and has all the peripherals. The oilers straight up made a terrible trade but that doesn’t support your case so you choose to lie instead. “LOL”

      • If you want a young blue liner that’s flush with potential the way nylander is then look at Anaheim. They have a glut. And they are facing expansion trouble looking at the back end. Basically any team needing D should be looking at Anaheim before the expansion draft. Of course only one will get the goods. Who shall it be?

      • Brokenhip, yeah, McKenzie last night suggested ANH as others have as a trading partner for the Leafs and I think he specified that Montour from the AHL affiliate could be the man. I really like the Josh Manson kid – big, defensive, RHD – perfect.

      • Taz petry told the oilers he wasn’t resigning what are they supposed keep and let him walk!? Dman are at a very high value right now and gms that have ones to move know this it’s pretty simple! Try listening to other ppl opinions and dont talk yourself into thinking you’re always right

      • I dont recall Petry saying this to the Oilers, maybe I’m wrong. It was bad asset management by the Oilers when they invested in Ference and Nikitin the previous year.
        This was the same year where the Leafs got a 1st and Leipsic for Franson and Santorelli.
        This was straight up bad management and a steal of a trade.
        Even if we look at your opinion, Petry became available and the Habs snapped him up for a great price, why couldn’t that happen to other clubs, Leafs included?

        I know what you are saying the fact is that you are using weak excuses. Trades happen for a few reasons, Cap, bad management and team composition are a huge part of that. You can’t just brush them off because it doesn’t support your argument.

      • That’s the problem tho taz the leafs aren’t gonna want a rental or older dman the will want someone to grow with like larsson and they will have to overpay to get that young cap controlled dmen are the hottest commodity in the NHL and nylander isn’t gonna get one of those

      • Petry was 27 Leddy was an RFA 22 Hamilton 22 and an RFA Schultz was RFA 25 Gudbranson 25 all of these guys are A top 4 guys B fairly young and C were dealt for pretty much just draft picks and or prospects and D none of these guys cost a player like Taylor Hall. It happens believe it or not that sometimes good D get traded.

      • Again young cap controlled players are the hottest commodity with so few around( available) they will be expensive for a few more yrs!

      • Again Larsson is 24 makes 4.1 mill and not very much different than any of those other guys. Any RFA is cost controlled. It doesn’t mean they cost Hall
        Hamilton is 22 (younger) salary is 5.7 only a little more expensive (he is also a much more productive D) and just cost just draft picks. If Larsson cost Chiarelli Hall why didn’t Hamilton cost the Flames one of their best players or even a roster player? If Hall cost Larsson how bad of a trade did Chiarelli make when he gave away Hamilton for nothing but picks?

      • Everyone in the league knew the issues between Hamilton and the bruins. As far as production larsson has been much more valuable to Edmonton than hall for nj or Hamilton for Calgary

      • And everyone knows how desperate the leafs are/will be for dmen with the cupboards on dmen coming up

      • Bare*

      • Larsson is more important than Hamilton how? They both play close to 20 minutes a night Hamilton on the top pair with Gio in Calgary and has 32 points Larsson plays close to the same and has 12 points by what do you judge who is more important? It’s your opinion that’s fine but I think some Calgary fans would get a laugh at the suggestion that Larsson is more important than their top point producing D who is 3rd on the team in points.
        I’m not trying to convince you bbb I’m just saying there is always some reason a guy gets traded who’s to say the Leafs don’t make a similar deal? Or tha another team isn’t desperate for a young cheaper forward that’s expansion exempt and have too many D to protect? There is always a reason. it doesn’t mean that’s the market because Hall was traded for Larsson. Lots of D are traded that play around 18-20 mins a night and it doesn’t involve a player like Hall.

      • An only number guy like yourself wouldn’t understand how valuable Larson is to the oilers, nylander is still unproven and a bit of an enigma a leaf fan can’t deny that nylander wouldn’t get a Larson is all I’m saying

      • And oiler fans would laugh at the suggestion that Hamilton is more important than Larson

      • Just sounds like you either don’t know what you’re talking about or are just saying things to argue, either way I guess there is no real point in continuing.

      • Ya no point in arguing you really don’t know what you’re talking about

    • And Nylander especially is not being dealt. We’ve been over this many times before. Nylander is one of the finest young forwards in the game.

      His basic stats speak for themselves: 0.65 ppg ranks T-3rd in his draft class with Pastrnak, behind only Elhers and Draisatl. In the 2015 and 2016 draft classes, only McDavid, Marner, Eichel and Matthews have been more productive.

      The advanced stats and context are more encouraging, however, suggesting that Nylander has actually been unlucky in his point totals and his production has suffered playing a shutdown role with very high, near-league leading quality of competition.

      You’re probably also unaware that he’s being developed with an eye to eventually playing Center. He played Center as pro in Sweden and in the AHL, of course, but if you’ve watched him in the NHL you’ve seen his ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone and make clean zone entries – he rarely ever dumps the puck in – and of course he quarterbacks one of the PP units and is fantastic distributing the puck.

      • ” unlucky” so funny seeing that in a comparison of a player lol

      • To get a top pairing d-man you are going to have to give up a top forward talent. How else do you think the Leaves will improve their defence?

      • agreed, the Leafs will have to part with Nylander to get a high talent, high ceiling defenseman. You gotta pay to play.

        The Leafs aren’t improving their D in a short period of time without moving Nylander, Marner or JvR+

        Leipsic, kapanen and picks aren’t landing an established top 4 defenseman

      • It was great not having any kids around here for a few days Dan. Looks like he’s back along with his constant “lol” after every comment!

      • good post Taz… if leafs want a true d with top pairing potential it would take a marner or nylander. JVr could fetch a middle pairing guy with a similar contract… a 1st and a top prospect could get a good d prospect but no guarantees with a prospect.

      • Consensus on this thread is yes he will be traded. Which matched with a lot of analysts say. I have no doubt within 12 months Nyllander is playing somewhere else. And reality is it may take Nyllander + a little more to get a top 3 D.

      • Agreed Kev, Taz, Chrisms – if it’s an established, top pair guy, that is going to cost well beyond what I’m talking about.

        However, look at the Dougie Hamilton trade.

        Dougie Hamilton for a 15th overall plus two 2nds.

        If the Leafs overpay relative to that, you’d have something like

        Leafs 1st (currently #16 but probably headed to #10-15) plus a good roster player/top prospect outside the top three depending on what the other team needed, plus a 2nd.

        If we’re sellers at the deadline (I think likely) then maybe we have another late 1st to add to the package instead of the 2nd.

        Mid 1st + late 1st + top prospect outside top three for young, RHD.

        If it’s a team that needs a scoring winger and has cap, JVR plus prospect.

        How’s that?

      • I’m with you Dan. The Leafs could get lucky like calgary did or they could definitely get a good defenseman for JvR or JvR+.
        They should be looking at making this move.
        I’m more concerned about the 2018-19 roster than I am about this one. They have a great opportunity to lay the foundation and shouldn’t get greedy by going all in for the playoffs. I doubt they will go for the raycroft/kessel type deals now

      • Dan. Not an established top 2. I would say a young top 4 with top 2 potential is about nylander value

      • Dan how can u say nylander won’t be traded everybody can be trade please get realistic

      • Realism and dan don’t mix

    • Button was kinda all over the place in that segment and at times didn’t make sense but yes I kinda could see his train of thought and agree that it could be that Nylander gets dealt. The thing that really helps me think that, is what Babcock said about Nylander is more suited to be a centre his natural position and I don’t think he gets that opportunity in Toronto. I can’t see him playing as a 3 and Mathews Kadri will likely be 1/2 for some time.
      As far as Hall for Larsson stuff…Chiarellii dealt Thornton for Sturm and Wayne Premeau and Seguin for Eriksson and I don’t believe the market for no1 centres became flaming packages of garbage, so let’s not keep bringing up this Larsson for Hall thing as normal, maybe Chiarelli traded a good young player away again because he didn’t think he was a fit…it wouldn’t be the first time.

      • True Dat!!! Hopefully for Oiler Fans PC has changed his ways.

      • Shticky, the difference in ice time between Babcock’s top three lines is currently next to nil. Only the 4th line is dramatically lower in ice time.

        Babcock himself has made this point numerous times.

        If you want to use the traditional description, Nylander would be a future 2C (secondary scoring line C) and the 3C is Kadri (shutdown line C).

        Kadri at a $4.5 cap hit is fine in that role.

      • Anyway you want to cut the cake Dan it’s the same difference if you have 2 centres capable of playing that many minutes as Kadri and Mathews to go along with a guy like Gauthier who has looked very good defensively and they could still potentially resign Bozak, on top of really only have 3 NHL calibre D I could see a pretty good reason to move Nylander if you had to. It may be a lot easier and cheaper to find a 2/3 centre or scoring winger (especially with the likes of Bracco Liepsic Kapanen johanson…) than it would be to find a decent top 4 D. You’re kinda acting like a lil kid who parents are threatening to take his toys away. Not saying for sure they trade Nylander but I could see why they would and totally wouldn’t be surprised to see a team or a deal like the Ducks maybe swap a good young D for a good young forward.

      • True about Chiarelli Schticky, he isn’t shy about moving young talent because of “fit”. He wasn’t the GM when Thornton was traded. It was Mike O’Connell. Although it created the room to go after Chara. Not sure if that was O’Connell’s goal though as he was gone by then.
        The Bruins are brutal that way, is there another team who has traded away as much premier talent in the last 12 years?
        They lost the Sequin and Hamilton trades as well.
        How would the B’s look today if they had those 2?

      • I am completely on board for trading Nylander for a top 4 with top 2 potential. I believe the Leafs would have done this if the option was available. I don’t think it is but it might be come the offseason.
        JvR to Anaheim makes sense and Nylander makes more sense for Minnesota in my opinion.

      • Thx for calling me childish, Shticky – that really adds to the debate.

        I don’t see Bozak being re-signed after this current deal; think he’ll be traded as Nylander develops.

        Hyman – Matthews – Marner
        Shoshnikov – Nylander – Kapanen
        Leipsic – Kadri – Brown

        Leaving out 4th line centered by Gauthier plus any other prospects, pieces that may come in. JVR, Komarov, Martin traded.

      • That’s all I’m really getting at Ray is that it seems everyone is quick to jump on the “Larsson cost Hall” train with out really looking at the deal. Chiarelli has done this kind of thing more than once before, it doesn’t really reflect a market as much as it says something about the guy who is doing the trades if you go thru his history. Sure Hall was traded for Larsson 29 other GMs also knew that Lucic was likely already an Oiler and Chia now has 12-14 million dollars invested in LW Which would not make dealing one easy and the icing on the cake is Chia was still able to shave some money off the cap by getting a good cheap D. There are a tone of factors that all play a part in this deal and make it much more than it looks. Just because Hall for Larsson doesn’t mean that every team in the league from now to eternity is giving up a return like Hall for a a fring top pairing more suited for a second pairing D. It’s rediculous to keep saying it. The Oilers went on a different direction and Hall was the odd man out so Chia sent him out the door for what he could. Same as Seguin Kessel Hamilton he didn’t really fit.

      • That is 100% correct Schticky. It has been well documented in Edmonton that PC was quietly talking to plenty of teams about the “big 3”, Hall, RNH and Eberle to get the D he desperately needed.
        He was making a move no matter what, which likely didn’t help as every GM knew it.
        He also wanted a serious culture change, and it needed to become McDavid’s team. Not that Hall wasn’t a good team guy, all reports say he was.
        Like you said, he no longer “fit” into the strategy.
        Gotta give PC credit for 1 thing, he has a giant set and believes in what he is doing.

    • Careful scott… When I was in grade school in Pittsburgh there was a kid in class who stabbed a pencil into another kids knee because he told him that jagr was going to be traded… day by day Danny seems like he could be heading in that direction with Nylander. watch yourself 😉

      • Hah, yeah, I’m dug in on this and I’ll be right or wrong – we’ll see. If I’m wrong though, we’re getting a hell of a Dman back.

      • For what it’s worth, I’m with you Dan. It’s true that “anyone can be traded”, it would be a mistake to move Nylander in the early stages of such a promising career. I think they will have other options to improve the defense corps, especially with so much cap space this summer.

  6. I would like Shattenkirk in Boston but not as a rental. I also wouldn’t give up any top prospects. Better to try and sign in the offseason.
    Boston is still outside the playoffs with all the games in hand.
    Better to stay the course let the young guys develop keep the draft picks.

    • Agree Dave, Shattenkirk does not make Boston a playoff team. They have two puck moving dman in C.Miller and Krug. To give up assets at this point for a rental and still not make the playoffs…Kind of sounds like 2016 all over again. Desperation! They need more scoring from other then the one line.

      • Lebrun reported last night that the Bruins have been discussing acquiring him as a rental. I agree with you guys that it doesn’t seem to make sense, but it has been reported.

    • Dave…Kevin Shattenkirk is not worth $7 million a year…which is what it will cost to sign himlong term….but if you want to pay him that be my guest…

      • Imo, Shatts is in the $4.5-5.5 mark. He is a 2nd pairing guy. Dont get me wrong hes big and can carry the puck no doubt but is not elite. I just know someone will over pay as they usually do at the tdl….quite possibly Buffalo.

  7. Brian Boyle to Edmonton make sense?

    Again how could Garth Snow not be doing everything in his power to get a forward from the Avs for JT.

    • Good point but I don’t see it happening. What can the Islanders offer for Landeskog or Duchene?

      • Islanders can offer young players making much less than Duchene and picks.

        Why in the world would JT resign with the players surrounding him?
        All the top Islander picks of the past decade look to be 2nd liners AT THE BEST.

      • The Isles actually have a decent group of D men. Not spectacular but the group behind Hamonic, Leddy, and Boychuck includes De Haan, Hickey, Mayfield, Pelach, and Pullock. Now the Avs may not want any of those guys but the first four are still young and have shown themselves to be at least serviceable. The Isles also have prospects like Ho Sang, Barzal, Bouvilier, and Dal Cole along with picks. I doubt they’d move Barzal but I suspect there is a package of players and picks they could put together that would be reasonable in a deal for Duchene.

  8. Andrew Hammond has no value. He is an American league goaltender

  9. Hanzal is slow and wouldnt be a great fit in the east. Watch some of his game tape when the Yotes play some of the speedier Eastern conference teams.

  10. Is there a market for Chara, yes he has a nmc but might he waive it for another opportunity. He be a good addition to a playoff contender as a second pairing and killing penalty, keeping his work load around 20 mins. Some B fans wouldn’t like it, but I’m all about asset management. He’s also a -10 in his last 8 games and makes several poor decisions as of late do to playing against the other teams top lines. Move him if the deal is there. Maybe Chara just need to change the design on his sweater but keep the same colors, although that team has no cap space.

    • Caper….I think the Bruins have played better as of late and Chara has been decent…scoring a bit more! This team is a mystery they have the talent Pasternak, Marchand, Bergevin, Backes, Beleskey, Krejci…..I would hold on to him. if nothing else he teaches the young Carlo how to play in the NHL…

      • Right no all I think he teaching Carlo is bad habits. Also he’s putting Carlo under a lot of pressure because he can’t handle the speed and skill set of number one lines and forces Carlo into covering up or receiving the puck under pressure. Really its a moot point on my part, because management is under pressure by ownership to get into the playoff; therefore Chara isn’t going anywhere but some bad trades might be coming just in hopes of making the playoff and keeping their jobs.

      • Agree 100% BnG. Bruins will hang on to him to mentor the young lads coming up.

  11. On and off the ice!

    • Caper, I think the opposite is true, Carlo is hurting Chara’s stats. Not a big deal in my mind as that is totally expected when you throw a 19 yr old over the boards against the NHL’s best every night. The last few games I have watched have been off the glass and out from Carlo. I get it when in doubt, safety first, but he is becoming a little gun shy. Again, not surprising given his age and experience.
      It is a symptom of not having a good overall blue line. Does Boston even have a true top pairing guy? Chara is the closest. Krug is their to drive offense, not defend the leagues best.
      The results are what you would expect with a 39 year old and a 19 year old logging that volume of difficult minutes. Not an ideal situation for young Carlo, but he seems like he isn’t letting it get to him.

      • And, Rask is struggling and has been for a month. Likely due to what you said yesterday, logging to many minutes.
        Another roster issue.

      • Watch tomorrow and see how often Toronto dumps the puck into Chara corner. For me to much is put into having him teach. Not interested in occupying a roster spot and cap space for a teacher. Bring him back after next season for that.

      • I agree totally I generally hate the mentor angle when people talk about players. In particular when it comes to guys who play 20-25 mins a night lol cant he be a teacher playing maybe 15 minutes a night instead? It’s a silly arguement. I agree for Chara if he is playing 23 minutes a night chances are the blueline isn’t that good and he is out there for more reasons than to teach and mentor.

      • Caper, I don’t disagree that the Bruins should move aging assets for prospects & picks. I have been getting on that soapbox since last season.
        I think Chara is their best D-Man though, and I think we disagree on that.
        Having said that, he is not a top pairing guy on a contending team.
        Tough one with Chara as he earned his NMC, and it is his right to stay if he wants. I have no idea if he would accept a trade. If he asks for one, you accommodate.
        I am OK with keeping him as that is how you treat a guy like him.
        Krecji is who I target to move if that is where they decide to go in the off season. When there were rumors last summer about him, he said he would accept it if asked. His comment was something like, if they don’t want you there is no point in staying.

      • Anyway you look at it the bruins biggest problem is defense, a bunch of decent two way forwards solid(overplayed) goalie in rask points to the defense.. krejci is the guy that should be moved but with the injury history and cap hit the return might not be great

      • Agree BBB on the return. You are basically dumping salary. Still a good not great player, bad contract.
        It frees up valuable space to add elsewhere, and they have a log jam at center.
        Or, you use that space to take on dead contracts to acquire young assets included for taking the bad contract.
        Either way, the space is gold and we are jammed at center.

  12. Would Arizona do a Hanzal and Stone to BOS for Krug and Krejci?? Boston lets those guys go…frees up cap space to wheel and dal with strapped teams like TB this offseason …..Arizona gets Krug and eats Krejci salary and cap hit but still gets center who when healthy can still play very well….

    thoughts?

  13. Proposals:
    Duchene for Beaulieu,1st 2017,N Juulsen and Desharnais (willing to add but that would be my 1st offer)

    Boyle (75% retain) for D L Rose and 2nd 2018

    Plekanec (willing to add but wild want a 3rd center) for scandella