Sunday NHL Rumor Roundup – February 26, 2017

by | Feb 26, 2017 | Rumors | 122 comments

Are the LA Kings looking into acquiring Vancouver Canucks goalie Ryan Miller?

Latest on Kevin Shattenkirk, Ryan Miller, Matt Duchene, Marian Gaborik, Justin Faulk and more in your Sunday NHL rumor roundup.

SPORTSNET: Nick Kypreos reports he’s hearing the Los Angeles Kings have interest in Vancouver Canucks goalie Ryan Miller and Tampa Bay Lightning goalie Ben Bishop as a rental backup for the recently returned Jonathan Quick. Peter Budaj held the fort for the Kings in Quick’s absence.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: This doesn’t make any sense. Budaj played very well in Quick’s absence (27 wins, seven shutouts, 2.12 GAA, .917 SP). Those numbers are better than Bishop’s or Miller’s stats.  While I know those two are bigger names, I think Budaj’s proven himself as a reliable backup for Quick. Besides, they have a more pressing need to bolster their offense, not to waste time chasing a goalie.  

Elliotte Friedman noted Kings winger Marian Gaborik was a healthy scratch in yesterday’s game against the Anaheim Ducks. While he has four years left on his contract, the Kings are trying to see if they can move him.

Good luck moving the declining, oft-injured Gaborik at the trade deadline. Maybe the Kings will have better luck dumping that contract ($4.875 million annually through 2020-21) this summer upon a club looking to reach the salary-cap floor in exchange for a draft pick and a prospect. 

Speaking of Miller, Friedman reports the Canucks starter, as well as winger Jannik Hansen, submitted their lists of preferred trade destinations. As for Alex Burrows, who could have a few teams with interest in him. His list of destinations could be less than the other two. The Canucks could approach him if they’ve got a good offer and see if he’ll approve it.

With the March 1 trade deadline approaching, Friedman said the Colorado Avalanche are telling teams they aren’t dropping their asking prices for Matt Duchene and Gabriel Landeskog. They’re looking for three or four pieces, including a young defenseman or goaltender (depending on the age), and are willing to wait for the offseason to get what they want.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Hope you all enjoyed the Duchene and Landeskog trade rumors this season. Looks like they’ll be carrying on into this summer. 

Kypreos said some are viewing St. Louis Blues defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk’s rejecting a trade to the Tampa Bay Lightning (which included a seven-year, $42-million contact offer) as his way of picking a preferred destination, rather than money being the priority. Friedman jokingly suggested it could be the New York Rangers.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Certainly seems like Shattenkirk wants to test the market this summer. It’s widely assumed the Rangers could be his preferred destination. If a deal can be worked out with the Rangers, perhaps they’ll take him on at the trade deadline. 

Kypreos said the Toronto Maple Leafs have some interest in Detroit Red Wings forward Riley Sheahan. who’s struggling this year. The Leafs could be looking to pick up the 25-year-old at a discount but Kypreos feels it could cost the Leafs a first rounder if they want him.  Friedman also noted Wings defenseman Brendan Smith had come up in trade talk but the Wings are trying to re-sign him and he doubts he’ll be dealt.

NEW YORK POST: Larry Brooks reports New York Rangers forward and leading scorer J.T. Miller is garnering lots of interest as the trade deadline nears, but the Blueshirts have no interest in moving him. Brooks also feels the Rangers have no realistic shot at Kevin Shattenkirk unless the asking price significantly drops. The Rangers need a right-handed shot on the right side of their blueline. While they’ve been connected to Detroit’s Brendan Smith, he’s a left-handed shot.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I still wouldn’t rule out Shattenkirk to the Rangers at the deadline. He’d address their need for a right-shooting mobile blueliner. The New Rochelle native could be keen to join them. But as Brooks notes, the asking price has to come down first. No way the Rangers part with Miller, who’s blossoming into a reliable scorer. 

Brooks also wonders if the Rangers might deal defenseman Kevin Klein, a recent healthy scratch, for a forward. They could keep Klein in order to expose him in the expansion draft. While the Rangers have gone big at recent trade deadlines, Brooks anticipates they could be low key this year. 

Brooks claims Boston, Toronto and Edmonton are among the most ardent Shattenkirk suitors. He also believes Tampa Bay Lightning center Brian Boyle could be a good fit with Minnesota or Edmonton and suggests Buffalo Sabres winger Brian Gionta could be an interesting option for the New York Islanders. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Recent reports out of those three cities suggest the Bruins, Leafs and Oilers could at best make minor moves. While I don’t doubt the Leafs could be interested, I don’t see them paying a big price for a rental player. 

EDMONTON SUN: Jim Matheson recently reported he wouldn’t be surprised to see the Pittsburgh Penguins add another defenseman before the trade deadline. Last week, the Pens acquired Ron Hainsey from the Carolina Hurricanes.

Speaking of the Hurricanes, Matheson cites scouts claiming defenseman Justin Faulk is in play and notes the Canes need a center. He also expects them to dump forwards Jay McClement and Viktor Stalberg by the deadline. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Faulk’s only 24, is a right-handed shot and carries a reasonable contract ($4.83 million annually through 2019-20). While he missed some time to injury earlier this season, he still should attract lots of interest. He’s also on pace for over 35 points, which would mark the fourth consecutive season he’s netted over 30. If he’s in play, perhaps the Hurricanes wait until this summer to move him in hopes of finding a suitable return. 

Matheson can see the Buffalo Sabres moving defenseman Dmitry Kulikov, provided they pick up half of his $4.2 million cap hit. 

Prior to the Chicago Blackhawks acquiring Tomas Jurco from the Detroit Red Wings, Matheson said the prevailing view had the Hawks trying to bring back Patrick Sharp from the Dallas Stars. However, he doesn’t rule out the Florida Panthers chasing Sharp. 

Given Ben Bishop’s improvement play of late, Matheson doubts the Lightning will move him at the deadline. 

OTTAWA SUN: Bruce Garrioch reports the Washington Capitals and Pittsburgh Penguins are believed to have held talks with the Blues regarding Shattenkirk, who’s now being shopped as a rental player. The Blues apparently want a first-round pick and a prospect as part of the return. It’s expected Shattenkirk will signed with the New York Rangers as a free agent in July.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Shattenkirk to the Caps or Pens? Reports out of Washington claim the Caps aren’t expected to be major players at the deadline.  Pens GM Jim Rutherford has a history of making big moves, and could be in the market for another defenseman. However, I don’t think he’ll pay big for a rental. 

The Buffalo Sabres are willing to move defensemen Dmitry Kulikov and Cody Franson.

Five or six clubs, including the Montreal Canadiens, Nashville Predators, Minnesota Wild, San Jose Sharks and Ottawa Senators, are apparently after Arizona Coyotes center Martin Hanzal, The Coyotes are said to be seeking a first-round pick, a prospect and another piece in return.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Garrioch also reported the Sens are linked to “Dallas forwards Patrick Sharp and Jiri Hudler along with Detroit’s Thomas Vanek, Winnipeg’s Drew Stafford”  and also mentioned New Jersey’s P.A. Parenteau. While he believes Sharp or Hudler might make the most sense given their playoff experience, I think Vanek could be a better option as he has better stats this season. Garrioch also noted young Senators forward Curtis Lazar has come up in the rumor mill but he’s not generating much interest because of his lack of offense.

As for that asking price for Hanzal, I’ll be shocked if the Coyotes find someone willing to pay that price. He’s not worth that much. 

There’s talk the Dallas Stars could trade defenseman Johnny Oduya back to the Chicago Blackhawks or perhaps to the Canadiens.

The Tampa Bay Lightning could move center Brian Boyle, with the Columbus Blue Jackets a possible suitor. While goaltender Ben Bishop has frequently surfaced in trade chatter, there’s a growing belief the Lightning could retain him as interested clubs could be unwilling to meet the Bolts’ asking price for a player they can sign via free agency in five months.

The Colorado Avalanche aren’t finding many suitors for the 39-year-old Jarome Iginla, who is willing to waive his no-trade clause for a playoff contender.

The Arizona Coyotes won’t trade captain Shane Doan unless he asks to be dealt. There’s a belief in league circle he might and Garrioch thinks the San Jose Sharks could be interested.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: We’ve heard Doan’s name pop up before and nothing ever came of that speculation. Maybe this year will be different but I’ll believe it when I see it. 

 









122 Comments

  1. I think Boyle would be a nice add for the oilers , not a fan of shattenkirk on rental bases for either the oilers or leafs .

    • I think he fits the Blackhawks too. It would give them a heavy player, who can move into the dot and play up and down in the lineup.
      If the find space he wants to sign a million dollar deal and return to Tampa next year.
      (There is going to be more than discard there so it might be the case.) no ones going to over Paul Gaustedr like first rounders, but that Lightning back line might see one of the three Hawk farm defenders as guys who will fit nice later on when they discard both Coburn &a Garrison. I only see Koekoek in the immediate future in their Syracuse farm.

  2. I guess the question the Rangers would be asking themselves is “by acquiring Shattenkirk now and giving up assets does it significantly increase are chances of winning the cup this year?” if not then just wait until the offseason and sign him then. That’s if they want him at all.

    • caper,

      It has also been reported even in recent days that Shattenkirk would like to go to the Rangers or Bruins. Bruins are on that list as well. Sweeney could make a run at signing in FA, which would put pressure on the Rangers. Giving up the assets now would likely give them a better chance at signing before FA hits.

      I’d be more concerned with how they expect to swing a trade and sign the player longterm, without moving any key piece(s) off the team to do so. They aren’t exactly in the best position cap wise and they have some key players coming up for contracts, albeit, RFA’s but still that doesn’t mean they take pennies on the dollar either. I’ve heard a lot of speculation that the Rangers could simply move Nash if that’s the case because he only has a year left on his contract. I’m not sure thats a “simple” move for them to make either.

      They’ll need to plan wisely because as it has been reported Shattenkirk is looking for 7 years. Are the Rangers in a position to be contenders that long? How many of their younger talented guys will be needing big contracts very soon as well… seems like this is a recipe for a cap disaster.

      I’ll second that for the Bruins as well. I’d love Shattenkirk but the money and term would scare the hell out of me. Those are the types of contracts that kill a club down the road.

      • The Rangers have a solid top 9 for the forseeable
        future even without Nash or Grabner.
        Kreider Stepan Zuc
        Zib Buch Vesey/Nash
        Miller Hayes Grabner

        There is no reason to believe they will not be even better in 2018

        Again AV has a bad track record with one dimensional blueliners.

    • I wouldn’t use “some key players” really it’s Zbad. I seriously doubt Pirri is a priority or Clendening. Fast isn’t going to break the bank. Ditto Puempel.
      Lindberg is probably on his way out. Ny should just go after a rh d-man that’s not going to cost tons of money or assets. Nash coming off the books next year is perfect timing for Miller who will be be up for rfa the same year. NYs cap situation is not as bad as people make it out to be.

      • I agree. NYR’s contracts are very well structured to roll from 1 asset to another eventually buying out Girardi & or Staal as their contracts reduce in term if required. Or paying a team to take the contract off their hands. Girardi’s declines to 5 then 4 in each of the final 2 seasons. Stall’s 6, 5 & 4.2 over the final 3 of his.

        Like all contending teams they will be forced to make a few hard choices along the way but nothing earth shattering.

        This is a great young hockey team. Only 4 players on this team are remotely old. Nash; 32 with 1 year remaining on his contract, Girardi; 32; Klein; 32 with 1 year remaining & Lundqvist; 34, but stud goalies have shown they can play at a very high level to almost 40. 38 kind of being the tipping point.

  3. Add Faulk to the list of D the Leafs should be looking in to this summer.

    • I don’t see why the leafs should be interested in Faulk? They need defensive dmen and Faulk isn’t that he’s just like Reilly, I think Reilly has been on the ice for 6 of the last 8 goals against for the leafs! Not good

      • Weber was on the ice for both goals against last night and 6 of the last 7 goals against for the Habs.

      • He’s certainly been struggling Shticky as has Montreal. I was really hoping Toronto would win last night. I didn’t get to see any games last night unfortunately.

        I would love to see Montreal miss the playoffs. Being a Bruins fan on the wrong end of to many Montreal miracles I hate few teams more. Ha-ha! I also had them to just miss before the season started.

      • Leafs mustp have lost to the Habs last night shticky is trolling everything about the Habs

      • I have to agree with bigbear. Reilly is not good in his own end. He is not progressing aswell as(cant believe im saying this) but Gardiner. His decisions have cost a few goals to say the least. He is not terrible but man does he remind me of last years Gardiner.

      • Im not sure anyone is mistaking Rielly for Pronger, he is (great skating transitional D for moving the puck away from the D zone) what he is. Zaitsev has been a very nice complimentary piece playing along side of him in the D zone. Still Riley is young relatively cheap of course has room for improvement from but let’s face it they all, even much more expensive older guys like Weber make mistakes.

      • FD of course you agree with bbb Reilly is terrible in his own end definitely not a top pairing defense man

      • Lol

    • Yeah good luck prying out Justin Faulk out of Carolina, Lou would’ve to give up one of either Nylander or Marner to get Faulk and i don’t see that happening.

      • Ya I realize the price for a player like that would be very steep but given his age and contract a guy like Faulk may be one of the few (if he was in fact available) D men out there that suit the need (RH top 4) age, and contract status that would make that steep price worth while and well worth considering at least.

      • I just don’t see Carolina moving Faulk nor do the rumors make any sense to me. I’ll believe when I see it. If I could find a line to bet on such, I would take the bet he doesn’t move.

        3 more years at 4.8 & change. A solid offense goal scoring Dman & the only Dman they need to protect currently for expansion. Carolina wishes there was a different formula available other for expansion other than 7, 3 & 1 or 8 & 1.

        I’m assuming Carolina is going to bring in at least 1 Dman & 1G to improve their 7, 3 & 1 keepers for the expansion draft. Hanafin, Slavin & Pesce are all expansion draft exempt.

        I want to see Carolina add Trouba & MAF before the expansion draft.

      • Leafs wont be doing that, dont worry.

      • How bout faulk and Duchene moved in a deal.

        It seems carolina needs a centre. Colorado wants a D.

  4. I think the sources whispering in the ear of Nick Kypreos are, in fact, Miller and Bishop.

    • Kypreoss was in top form last night with that and the idea that Sheehan was some how worth the Leafs first round pick for a 4th line centre.

      • The term “hockey insider” is a little too loosely thrown around these days for my liking. Unless it’s McKenzie or Lebrun, treat these “reports” with the skepticism they deserve.

      • Agreed Bowman. There are several others but many are no better informed than you or I. Kyproes just isn’t 1 of them.

      • Without the speach coach Kipper would make ‘take me out to the ball game’ sung by Ozzy a run for his money!

  5. Anyone like these thoughts?

    1. Shatty to Toronto for JVR OR
    2. Shatty to Rangers for Nash (NY maintains half of salary)

    also picks/prospects TBD

    • I don’t think that makes a great deal of sense , I don’t think replacing Nash with shatty puts them over the top by any means , and if it’s believed he wants to sign with NYR in the summer , more sense to wait . As for Toronto , that would be wasting what could be a nice return for JVR on shatty who would not come close to pushing Toronto over the top and be gone in the summer

      • From Rangers perspective–helps them with a sticky contract to free up $s for long-term signing

        From Torontos perspective–keeps young core and prospects in tact

        For Blues–gives some veteran help for playoff run

      • If you want JVR, try talking Parayko not Shattenkirk

      • Craig,

        I’m not sure the Rangers can even swing Shattenkirk and his contract if they retain Nash or any other player who has a big $$$ contract. the Rangers have key players to resign in the offseason, all RFA, but still… those players are going to get increases from their current contracts. The Rangers are already close to cap with about $2.3m in space. That $2.3m will likely be used up in resigning some of their RFA players. Depending on how the expansion draft works out they may end up losing a player with some term/$$$ that might help.

        Shattenkirk is reportedly looking for $7m per and 7 years. That’s a lot of coin. The team also has players in a few seasons that will be due for some sizable increases as well. They’ll need to move out money to make that work well long term IMO.

        I do agree though that moving out Nash might not make as much sense when you lose his production. He’s currently 4th on the team in goals this season. He’s on pace for approx. 25 goals this year. I’m not entirely sure the team is in the position they currently are if not for Nash and his production.

      • Mark , Chad ,

        I don’t think they have to retain Nash beyond this season , but I do think they need him down the stretch . Makes sense from a blues perspective , but the rangers I think would be better served to wait on shatty, if they choose to sign him at that contract I think it will be a mistake bug yes other moves will have to be made , $$ out . The leafs can’t waste an asset like JVR if it doesn’t improve the future outlook IMO

      • If he is so set on NYR or BOS can he really squeeze 7×7 out of a well documented 2 team market ? If the reports are accurate .

      • Yogi.

        StL isn’t giving up Parayko for JvR. A stud in the making & a monster of a man. The additional compensation would be extreme but moot as he’s part of their top 3 moving forward following expansion.

        StL doesn’t need JvR. He’ll cost just as much as Shattenkirk to resign in 1 year & is a pretty 1 dimensional semi streaky player. Schwartz, Steen & Fabbri have the left side locked up in StL currently. Steen can play C & I assume Fabbri will in the future.

        Jaskin can play either side, Buchenvich could play LW or C, & Blais is coming at LW. StL has a solid prospect core. If they need anything it may be a C as Stastny has 1 year left to UFA status & Lehtera isn’t the player he was assumed to be.

        The rumour I had heard wasn’t Bishop moving to StL but Johnson which made sense to me. StL needs a C or Fabbri moves across as soon as Stastny’s lost. Schwartz was also tried at C. Steen seems the most logical as may be required.

      • Jvr for parayko?? Is yogi really kipper? You can tell yogi only listens to Toronto media and knows nothing about other teams that is a ridiculous offer kipper

      • Chad, you keep saying “key players”. Zbad and….? You think Clendening and Pirri are up for big deals? They must be the best healthy scratches out there!

      • Chad.

        NYR has almost 10 mil in cap space next season with zero increase. Your quoting this years cap space # yet using it to address next season?

      • Striker and Nyr4life,

        Some of the upcoming RFA on the Ranger’s roster are key players. Players that have fit in well with the system. You’re correct, the biggest names is Zbad but if they plan to sign all of those RFA’s then some of them are due for a slight bump.

        Also, Striker, it’s closer to about $13m in space BUT if they currently only have about $2.3 this season… and some of Zbad will eat that up, and sign a few of those RFA’s, maybe not all but a few get a slight bump… you eat at almost what’s left. Add in Shattenkirk’s contract, which will be between $6-7m per longterm, 6-7 years.

        There are still going to be spots that need to filled on the team. Does adding a player like Shattenkirk handcuff the team?

        Like I mentioned above, I’ll say the same for the Bruins as well. Adding a player around $7m per, long term, can hurt most teams, maybe not in the first season or 2 but down the road it can.

      • Who? Clendening, Pirri and Puempel? Lol…. The total a season of healthy scratches between them…. Zbad…. And only Zbad!

    • Is Shattenkirk really worth that much? He may be good on the power play but 5 on 5 he’s average at best.
      If I’m in St. Louis I’d jump for either deal.

      • Did I miss something Striker. When did Buchnevich get traded to the blues

    • Yeah and why would Lou give up JVR for a rental in Shattenkirk when it’s obvious that his heart is playing for the Rangers. It’s not like the Leafs are going to win it all this year any ways. Doesn’t make much sense here.

    • I’d be perfectly content holding Nash, his 7.8 per hit for one more year and skipping on Shattenkirk all together. I’ve said this before about Nash, he isn’t a 7.8 per player, but he also isn’t a 3.9 per player either. Zero chance they hold 1/2 his hit. Zero.

      • I agree. Nash may be moved by NYR eventually. Potentially following the expansion draft but if they are required to with hold salary he won’t be going any where until next seasons trade deadline if even then. NYR is a cup contender & Nash scores & is a big part of their success.

  6. I`d love to know who Nick`s source is. A 1st rd pick for Riley Sheahan, who is he kidding. I wouldn`t give a 3rd for him. Toronto doesn`t need any more spare wingers, got plenty, need right handed defenceman not named Shattenkirk (not worth the trade nor his contract after). I think Friedman makes things up and writes them on the bathroom walls for Kypreos so he`d have something to say during the segment

    • Kipper is a leaf fan that and crazy proposals go hand in hand ?

      • Habs won so of course Biggie gonna troll everyone who mentions the word Leafs today. Get ready for him, a whole lot of exclamation points and misspelled 3 letter words.

      • Ya I figured this much, misspelled 3 letter words? I think we know who Kypreos`s source is now. Seems Nick has problems with 3 letter words too.

      • It’s funny you 2 would follow every word of kipper if the trade was good for the leafs you’re like blue and white sheep

  7. Green may be an option for a team looking for a R Dman. 1 yr left at 6m. If I were Wings, I’d take a prospect and a 2nd. He’s still dangerous at the point. D could be better but not as lackluster as I thought it would be when he came to DET.

    • At this point Green should be gone for a song never mind the dance, just to get the 6 mill off the books. Det`s rebuild starts now.

      • Here comes yogi trolling every team other than the leafs get a life yogi

      • Just about same ppg as Shatterkirk and numbers on par with those of S Weber. Plus minus not pretty but his D partners haven’t helped much. Great zone entry on pp and quick shot.

    • Dmart I`m not talking about his stats, it`s the 6 mill cap hit that won`t get you anything now. Unloading his salary is probably the best thing for Detroit. Having that cap space is showing to be the most valuable tool a team could have, next to a 1st rd pick for rebuilding. Just look at Fla, Tor and Carolina, picks and cap space. Det already has a good development system in place, so Det`s already part ways there

  8. We all know leafs are in desperate need of some defence help, and more importantly , a defensive d man, not offensive d man… that’s why I don’t like the idea of paying big money and term for a player like shattenkirk . What do you guys think are the best options for leafs , focusing on staying with the plan , and improving the D? What assets are expendable ? I think the best move by Lou this deadline is staying put , and evaluating options this offseason. I expect a small move or two that do not cost much, unless a deal that is too good to come true comes up.
    Trading nylander also baffles me. This guy would be the talk of the city any other year if it wasn’t for Matthews and marner. They obviously need to sit down and see if he fits their long term plan ( economically speaking ), but his value continues to rise in my opinion .

    • Numerous teams have to many Dman pre expansion draft following the playoffs. Great targets for Toronto would be Manson; Anh, Savard; Columbus, Brodin; Min, De Haan; NYI, Trouba; Win. There are a few other options from other teams as well as a few others from those teams already mentioned above.

      The cost for almost any will be extreme but some significantly cheaper than others. Moving JvR is logical but he won’t appeal to everyone due to his contract status. If Toronto wants 1 stud it will cost them a younger asset & picks.

      • Let’s say a mansoon or a Trouba .. what type of picks / prospects are you looking at to entice Ana or Winnipeg . Keeping in mind the offer has to hold up to the countless other teams looking for a young growing stud ?

      • Is Reilly still untouchable ? Opinion?

    • Marner for Erickson straight up. Band loved big E. bahaha.

  9. It’s important to remember how often Nick Kypreos has been hit in the head in his life.

    None of what he says ever makes sense, but this is particularly bad. Budaj was good enough to carry them through the season but now that Quick is back, he’s not fit to open the bench door. They need Ryan Miller for that.

    Regarding Shattenkirk to the Pens…
    probably not likely but I wouldn’t rule it out.

    Maatta and Daley were not exactly Pronger and MacInnis out there together lately. Both of them project to return right before the regular season ends. The idea of starting the playoffs with a rusty third D pairing that was iffy when healthy sounds like the biggest current risk to their playoff chances.

    Hainsey and Shattenkirk. You could do a lot worse for a third pairing. At that point, Maatta and Daley would become the depth defenseman. That’s a pretty talented press box.

    The first round pick is easy. It will hopefully be #31 in a weak draft. But, I’m not sure what the Pens have prospect wise to include. I wouldn’t move Sprong or Jarry for a rental.

    • If & when all Dman are healthy in Pittsburgh Cole will be the 1st Dman sent to the press box. Dailey will play as a regular & baring injury won’t sit at all. Maatta’s position isn’t secure but Dumoulin is far more likely to sit over Maatta. If all are healthy their will be some form of rotation for these 3 Dman in Pittsburgh. Maatta, Dumuolin & Cole.

      Getting through the 2 month grind of a run to the cup with your 6 regular Dman is slim to non existent. Especially with a Player like Letang that is 1 solid hit away from seeing his career ended with what would be his 7th or 8th concussion.

      Letang may have trouble recognizing himself in a mirror in 15 years.

      • Cole? No. He’s on the second pairing.

        Dumoulin? No. He’s on the top pairing.

        Dumoulin had a rough patch when he had to play on the right side. But he’s rock solid. So is Cole.

        Maatta and Daley had played their way down to third pairing ice time and if Hainsey plays as well as he did last night, he’s going to keep one of them in a suit.

      • MG.

        We’ll know soon enough. Come playoff time baring further injuries we will get to see what Sullivan’s plans are at D.

        Schultz & Maatta were both lost in the game played Feb 15th. Dailey shortly there after.

        You may be right, I may be right, we could both be wrong. Time will tell.

      • I was surprised yesterday when Dan Rosen tweeted that Hainsey was in the top pairing with Dumoulin and if Pittsburghs D was healthy Hainsey would be a scratch.

      • I think that some observers are too high on Maatta and too low on Cole. Just subjectively, Maatta’s cancerous thyroid. the treatment of his condition, and the reported surgical removal of part of that organ seem to have drained his energy and slowed his game somewhat. His injuries seem to have made him a bit timid. At the same time, while teams are successfully using a shoot-and-crash-the-net strategy to attack the smallish Penguins, Cole is one of the few Penguins with the strength and disposition to meet force witsh force. Moreover, he is plus-23, second of the team,blocks shots as well ans any teamate, and has seen increased playing time with his coach’s increased confidence in him. He played a team high 23:37 last night.

    • Cole has been one of the most steady d men in pburgh. Daley has been bad and maatta streaky. Dumo ain’t had the greatest year either. Hainsey Daley most likely to sit.

      • Cole has been so good that I’m starting to wonder if they might only protect 4 forwards and risk losing Hagelin and Hornquist over him.

      • Well Dailey’s TOI/GP is higher than Cole’s & Dumoulin’s. Nominal but Dailey sat 2nd to Letang until injured? Cole & Dumoulin log more even strength ice time but Dailey more special teams icetime & Maatta, Cole & Dailey are top 3 in SH TOI/GP. The variance negligible we are talking seconds per game difference.

      • Dumoulin won’t be sitting unless his play drops off considerably. He’s Letangs partner on the top pairing and after some sophomore slump stuff and missing a ton of time with the broken jaw he’s finally trending upward again. He’s been physical and engaged the last few games. Cole and Shultz have been together all year and play well together. Maatta and Daley have been the common pairing that barely treads water and Maattas possession metrics are significantly better away from Daley. I also see them picking up another dman by Wednesday so depending on who that is will determine who sits. But the answer is that it should be Daley but it will likely be Maatta who sits. Could also be Hainsy.

      • Daley makes every player around him worse. He had a decent playoffs last year but he now looks like the player you trade a scuderi for.

      • CHRISMS AGREED COLE has been terrific.. but the Penguins aren’t losing Hornqvist he is too important..his physicality, ability to drive the net create space for Sid and get the ugly goals…

        Hornqvist, Eric fehr, Chris kunitz and now dman Ron Hainsey are the penguins physical presence..which will be needed in the playoffs

      • Chrisms the penguins didn’t bring Ron hainsey in to sit…if any sits it will be Oli Matta or TrevorDaley who may not make it back at all….

        Ron Hainsey is a terrific shot blocker, penalty killer, skates well, makes good outlet passes and gives the Penguins size for the playoffs

      • Hainsey was brought in cause half the top 6 was is hurt. And to be the 7th d man… essentially Schultz role last year

    • MG AGREED I WOULD MOVE DANIEL SPRONG OSCAR SUNDQVIST OR MAYBE EVEN TRISTAN jARRY FOR MATT DUCHENSE NOT SHATTENKIRK WHO IS A SECOND D PAIRING…

      IF SHATTENKIRK THINKS HE ID GETTING $7 MILLION PER FOR 7 SEASONS HE IS DREAMING….. ILL TAKE HIM AS A RENTAL FOR THE PENGUINS IF THE PRICE ISN’T RIDICULOUS.

      • Chrisms..have you seen daley play this year and Matta was brutal in the playoffs this year hainsey wont be sitting count on that Daley may not even be back…so

  10. Sheahan I believe is a former first round pick. Good third line type player only. Those usually don’t garner a first. B.Smith and a Sheahan package would be more attractive…..I have never heard anything so stupid as the LA Kings looking for Bishop and Miller to back up Quick. Wow. He went down in the first period of the first game of the year and I think they managed quite well and now they need a back up ??

    • B. Smith and Sheahan would be more attractive for what, not a first I hope. If you think Sheahan is a good 3 rd line player, Yikes

  11. I’m gonna toss out a random trade idea that will never happen, but…

    I don’t really like the idea of the Pens chasing Duchene or Shattenkirk. It reminds me of when the Red Wings loaded up in 1999 with Chelios and Ulf and a forward I can’t remember for their threepeat run and lost.

    But, you could fill both of those needs in a less dramatic and possibly more effective way…

    Offer Olli Maatta to Ray Shero and the Devils for Ben Lovejoy and Mike Cammalleri with 50% cap hit retained on both, which equals less than $3.5 M for BOTH players.

    Lovejoy is obviously a fit for the Pens and Cammalleri is such a dangerous little sniper, he would be a great fit with our centers.

    Olli becomes the number one D man on the Devils, which shows how far they are from contending.

    • Never going to happen. Maatta is a solid penalty killer, he has a great future as a solid 2 way Dman having just turned 22 in August yet already has 219 regular season games under his belt. Just a kid on a great long term contract at just over 4 mil per year with 5 more years to go. Teams don’t trade this type of asset unless confronted with no choice. Pittsburgh locked him up long term at great money for a reason.

      You want to ship him out for an injury prone Cammalleri & Ben Lovejoy? Ha-ha!!!!!!

      • Striker you do realize you just called the other two injury prone while taking about maata who is also very injury prone ?

      • Letang Dumoulin Schultz. Those are the keepers. If they protect 4, I (and I suspect they) would keep Cole over Olli. Cole has become a great 2nd pair Dman and a great partner for Schultz.

        And Lovejoy was MUCH more important to the Cup run last year than Maatta, who was sheltered and/or a borderline liability when he did play.

        Maatta is odd in that his ceiling is very high but his floor is very low. And either way, he’s a poor fit for the system.

      • Actually I only called Cammy injury prone not Lovejoy. Yes Maatta has been early in his career but he is only 4 years in. Cammy has been injured & regardless he’s not going any where. Cammy has been injured 8 years in a row.

        You don’t move solid young developing Dman on great contracts for diminishing forwards injury prone or not. You could eliminate the injury reference if you wish as this trade is never happening.

      • How about “Day-To-Day” Letang? If there was no such thing as an injury list they’d have to invent one for him.

      • no way the pens leave maatta unprotected. signed as he is with his ceiling. I like cole but he is what he is… a bottom pairing guy who does his role well. one year left at 2.1 mil means he is expendable. if he goes to vegas they could resign him in one year. and the whole system thing is way overblown. the pens go through coaches like changing their underwear.. systems and coaches change quickly… player talent has staying power. I would bet Olli is hear much longer than Sully… and Sullys system. hell the system will have to change in a few years whe cros/malk lose a step.

    • Terrible trade for pens. Pens got lovejoy 2.0 in hainsey. Pens don’t need an aging out camnilerri for another year blocking young players like spong jg

      • I wouldn’t make that trade for exactly that reason. Don’t need Cammalleri. I’m a big Sprong fan. I think he’ll be Geno’s winger for years.

        But they don’t need Duchene either, so…just tossing this out as alternative food for thought.

    • Yuck. I hated every second of Lovejoy and Cammy is waaaaaay over the hill. Maatta has had a lot of injury issues but I’m not ready to throw him away for this pile of garbage.

      • i would take Matt Duchense to the Penguins in a heartbeat and if that means giving up Oli Matta, prospect Sprong and a number # 1 pick so be it…(look to get something good you need to give up something good) Crosby Malkin Duchense Cullen done the middle hell yes….

      • unless another top 4 d man comes back pens cant afford to lose maatta. they have no replacement in the system and top 4 d men are too expensive to sign in ufa. I’d only move maatta as a piece in a Trouba, sign and trade shat, hamonic, faulk etc etc type deal.

    • Nope to that trade dont want camilleri or Lovejoy…

  12. You couldn’t get Sheahan AND Smith for a first only. If from a top ten team it will be like a second rounder. Any deal would have to be bigger in terms of pieces.

    • A first from a bottom ten club would be an over payment for those two. Spare parts…..

    • A 28 yr. old left handed bottom pairing defenceman and a 25 yr. old soft 4th liner who can`t score playing on a team that is in serious need of a major rebuild isn`t going to get you a 1st from any team in the NHL. If you can get a pair of 3rd rounders for them, I say grab and run. Eaves may of gotten a conditional 2nd but he`s at least having a good year

  13. And of course the bottom 10 teams not interested

  14. can Stepan from NYR and Faulk from ‘Canes be the centerpieces around a trade to meet both teams needs?

    or to balance out cap does NYR offer Staal as part of their package to STl for Shatts

    • Canes would get a hell of a better player than stepan and staal is a pylon. so no and no

      • Chrism, your bias towards Rangers players is obvious. Staal is no Weber, Doughty.. But pylon? Cmon man! Overpaid, yes.. But pylon? Stepan? You obviously live in the black and gold world. ” Hagelin is a superstar”, “Letang was a 3rd round pick” Bozak, Kreji, Rnh, and Dave Bolland are all better than Stepan” cmon man!

      • Who said hags was a star? Half those centers you listed are better. I fail to see the point

      • You just fail! You can’t see value through blinders.

      • Seeing a how you seem to take shots at ny players personally I think calling out someone for having blinders or certain color glasses is a bit of the pot calling the kettle black…. and gold

      • Lol… Hagelin “superstar” love for Letang….. Dave Bolland…. Bolland! You’ve shot out your hockey knowledge! Seriously…. Dave Bolland!!!!! Lmao

    • Why do you hate crosby…..? jealousy is a nasty disease..

  15. If I am the Islanders, either go big or don’t do anything. They have waited for years with a ton of prospects and young players to develop. To go after a Brian Gionta or 3rd line winger isn’t propelling them into the playoffs nor advancing. It is time to make a franchise altering move. One that helps now and over the next couple of years. One that shows Tavares that they mean business and one that helps them get their own building. Duchene is that player. Would slot nicely into #2 center role. If that means the Isles need to part with Hamonic, Dal Colle and a #1 or possible Pulock instead of Hamonic, then do it. The Isles are wasting time with Pulock in minors. Use him or trade him.

  16. Conspiracy Theory—SOMEONE planted the “Shattenkirk to Penguins” seed yesterday just to get the Rangers attention and force their hand!?! Can’t fool me!

  17. The oilers and kings should trade.
    Gaborik, Nolan, king and budaj. For:
    Khaira, Oesterle, Hendricks, pouliot and fayne.

  18. Chrisms-

    Oli matta is 22 yes and he is a solid dman….. but not a perfect fit for Mike Sullivan’s speed up tempo system…he had been playing really well until he got hurt again…

    You use him to get Matt Duchense with out a second thought..penguins have Dumolin, Schultz, Letang, Cole, and Hainsey Rudewhechy too

    in the off season there are alot of ufa d-man available Cody Fransen and Dimtri Kulikov to name a few.. to add to the team

    what a nightmare match up crosby malkin Duchense Cullen all 4 can fly and create pick your poison..plenty of d to survive.

    • Enough already!

      Your not getting Duchene for Maatta, the kid is waaayyyyy to injury prone. There would be much better deals for Sakic to take elsewhere for a D-man.

      • ***Slow clap*** and people complain about Leaf fans! Pittsburgh fans have lost their minds on player value!

    • His value has taken a hit so no luck for dusch… and flush your repeat hopes down the toilet if you think Chad is a top 6 d man

  19. Looks like a couple of folks here either weren’t aware of the rule that I won’t tolerate trolling or insults in the comments section, forgot about it or just didn’t care. I’ve deleted the offending posts. I’m sure you’re all mature enough to have a discussion or debate without belittling each other.

  20. How is Shattenkirk for MAF++ not up for debate?
    STL will be a tougher out with MAF vs Jake Allen.

    • Maf isn’t fetching a Shattenkirk! Maf would be lucky to fetch a Scuderi!

      • Totally agree fleury will be close to a dump the pens will lose on this either way

      • I still think STL is better with MAF than Allen.

        I did put a ‘++’ in the deal. And with the knowledge Shattenkirk is not signing an extension with Pittsburgh. STL is not going to lose Shattenkirk for nothing.
        Boston and NYR can wait until the summer to get in their bidding war which will not cost any roster players or top prospects

      • Nyr4life..look in the mirror..rangers fans are as pompous as any except Philadelphia fans….

      • DON’T NEED, DONT WANT, FORGET KEVIN SHATTENKIRK…MAF IS GOING NOWHERE WE NEED HIM FOR ANOTHER CUP RUN DEAL WITH IT IN THE OFF SEASON

      • How is calling out ridiculous trade scenarios pompous? You certainly don’t see me here proposing Tanner Glass and Raanta for Duchene and Landeskog! Lol

  21. Guess kipper isn’t as stupid as people make out. The ship to Los Angeles.

  22. Bishop to kings. I guess kipper is more connected than most people think

  23. I guess it`s crow for supper tonite. Nick was right about one thing L.A. is worried about Quick`s health.

    • Feel bad for Peter Budaji who played his heart out and kept the kings with in striking distance of a wild card spot….and they dump him….they acquire Bishop who is almost as fragile as Quick…they need goal scoring dumb move by the Kings and i live in Los Angeles

  24. Hanzal to Minny for picks