NHL Rumor Mill – February 16, 2018

by | Feb 16, 2018 | Rumors | 121 comments

A review of The Athletic’s list of Western Conference buyers and sellers at the trade deadline in your NHL rumor mill.

THE ATHLETIC: Pierre LeBrun examined the Western Conference buyers and sellers leading up to the NHL’s Feb. 26 trade deadline. First, the Central Division:

LeBrun considers the Nashville Predators to be buyers. General manager David Poile already made a notable trade earlier this season (Kyle Turris) and former captain Mike Fisher has come out of retirement to rejoin the roster. However, Poile might not be done dealing as they’re “all-in” this season.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Poile won’t make a reckless move, but I agree that he’ll be aggressive in the trade market in search of a scoring forward. The Preds came close to winning the Stanley Cup last season and want to go all the way this year. 

Winnipeg Jets GM Kevin Cheveldayoff is calling around looking for a forward and a defenseman. LeBrun believes Cheveldayoff inquired about Ottawa center Derick Brassard. He also wonders if Columbus defenseman Jack Johnson might be a fit with the Jets.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: TSN’s Darren Dreger believes the Jets are among the clubs interested in Edmonton Oilers winger Patrick Maroon. They won’t part with a first-round pick but they have the depth in young assets to tempt the Oilers. The Sens’ reported asking price for Brassard (first-round pick, top prospect, third asset) should send Cheveldayoff looking for other options. They’ve also been linked to the Rangers’ Rick Nash but I don’t see the Jets GM overpaying for him. Maybe he seeks more affordable players like Nash’s teammate Michael Grabner.

St. Louis Blues GM Doug Armstrong would prefer a hockey trade to add a forward rather than giving up assets for a rental player. LeBrun wonders if Armstrong could have interest in Ottawa’s Mike Hoffman or Montreal’s Max Pacioretty.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Landing Hoffman or Pacioretty will be expensive. Armstrong might be forced to consider an affordable rental addition and look ahead to this summer to land a long-term asset. 

The Dallas Stars have been suggested as a destination for New York Rangers winger Rick Nash, but LeBrun doesn’t believed GM Jim Nill has a big desire to pursue an expensive rental. He could prefer adding a forward for a moderate price. The health of defenseman Marc Methot will also be a factor in the Stars’ trade-deadline plans.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The ties to Nash were based on Stars bench boss Ken Hitchcock having coached the winger when they were with the Columbus Blue Jackets. I don’t doubt Hitchcock and Nash think highly of each other but Nill doesn’t seem like he’s keen to go after the veteran winger. 

LeBrun also suspects the Minnesota Wild would prefer a player-for-player deal. It’s doubtful GM Chuck Fletcher will part with his first-round pick after doing so last year in the Martin Hanzal deal. He also lacks a second-round pick but has three third-round selections.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Losing defenseman Jonas Brodin for a month to a broken hand could have Fletcher eyeing the market for an affordable depth defenseman. There’s also rumblings he might ship center Matt Cullen back to Pittsburgh. Much will depend upon his club’s performance in the days leading up to the deadline. 

Where the Colorado Avalanche are in the standings by the deadline could determine if they’re buyers or sellers. If there’s a deal for a top-nine forward to be had, they might consider it.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: GM Joe Sakic garnered a measure of respect for his three-way trade earlier in the season that sent Matt Duchene to Ottawa. His club is exceeding expectations this season, which could tempt him to look for an affordable forward. 

The Chicago Blackhawks could be sellers, though they don’t have any obvious parts to sell off. They’ll be careful with their future assets.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I’ve seen some unhappy Blackhawks fans calling upon GM Stan Bowman to dump the expensive contracts of veteran defensemen Brent Seabrook and Duncan Keith. Both have obviously declined this season, but they’re also still the best blueliners the Blackhawks have. Besides, their lengthy deals are difficult to move. Factor in their respective full no-movement clauses and they’re not going anywhere. Maybe they’ll try to shop pending free agent forward Patrick Sharp if he’s willing to waive his no-trade clause. 

Don’t expect the Vegas Golden Knights to shop pending free agents, such as James Neal, at the trade deadline. (Photo via NHL Images)

In the Pacific Division, LeBrun believes it’s yet to be determined if the expansion Vegas Golden Knights will be buyers or sellers. Though there’s a risk of losing forwards James Neal and David Perron to free agency in July, it’s one they’re willing to take. GM George McPhee could  be content to keep the current roster intact. He could also be reluctant to part with draft picks for a rental player.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Considering how well the Golden Knights are playing, standing pat might be the best option for McPhee. Why tinker with a good thing? They weren’t expected to reach the playoffs, let alone dominate the Western Conference. Probably best to leave them be and see what they can do in the postseason. 

LeBrun also think the San Jose Sharks aren’t eager to chase any high-end rental players. GM Doug Wilson could make a move for a moderate forward but will ensure he leaves sufficient cap space to use this summer to boost his roster.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Sharks are transitioning with young players and Wilson wants to save his cap space to make a big splash either in this summer’s trade market or via free agency. I don’t expect any major moves on his part right now. 

The Calgary Flames lack first- and second-round picks in this year’s draft, leading LeBrun to suggest prospect goaltender Jon Gillies as a trade chip for the right price. He also feels winger Mike Hoffman would be a great fit in Calgary but not at the high price the Senators have set for him.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: That could explain why the Flames are being linked to the Rangers’ Michael Grabner. 

Having acquired a veteran defenseman in Dion Phaneuf, the Los Angeles Kings could be in the market for a “mid-level skilled/scoring winger.”

SPECTOR’S NOTE:  I don’t think Blake’s done dealing. There was talk earlier this season that he could move a blueliner like Jake Muzzin or Alec Martinez for a scoring forward. With Phaneuf on the blueline, maybe he’ll consider moving Muzzin or Martinez for a scorer. Then again, he could be content to wait for sidelined forward Jeff Carter to return to the lineup by month’s end. 

Anaheim Ducks GM Bob Murray could need a little more time to determine if he’ll be a buyer or seller. His club could use more speed at forward and LeBrun suggests New York Rangers winger Michael Grabner as an option. However, it might not make sense to add a rental player if they’re uncertain of reaching the playoffs.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: As of today, the Ducks sit just one point out of a wild-card berth. If they can push into a postseason spot in a week’s time, Murray could be tempted to become a buyer. 

The Edmonton Oilers are shopping forwards Mark Letestu and Patrick Maroon. LeBrun considers Letestu a goner for sure but Maroon’s status has yet to be determined. GM Peter Chiarelli will have to weight the value of the best trade offer against re-signing Maroon and at what price.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: If the Oilers move Maroon, LeBrun believes they’d prefer to get a top prospect, someone who’s closer to reaching the NHL and having an impact on their roster. However, the door remains open for the two sides to reach an agreement on a new contract.

LeBrun’s colleague Darren Dreger believes Chiarelli also hopes to add a winger who can skate with Connor McDavid, a defenseman to help their transition game and a goaltender who can push starter Cam Talbot. Obviously, he won’t be able to address all those needs at the deadline, but maybe he can find a solution to one of them.  

Vancouver Canucks forward Thomas Vanek is “up for grabs”, while a decision has to be made over whether to re-sign or trade defenseman Erik Gudbranson.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Vanek’s been linked to the Jets and Boston Bruins. I’ll be surprised if he’s still a Canuck on deadline day. If the Canucks haven’t reached an agreement with Gudbranson on a new contract in a week’s time, I expect he’ll hit the trade block. 

The Arizona Coyotes aren’t shopping winger Max Domi, but LeBrun believes they’re willing to listen to a serious offer that makes sense. Same goes for everyone on the Coyotes except untouchables Oliver Ekman-Larsson and rookie Clayton Keller.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I don’t think the Yotes are going to get a serious offer for Domi that makes sense right now. Interested clubs are hoping to buy low because he’s struggled this season. Best to hang onto Domi, re-sign him to a two-year bridge contract and give him time to regain his form. I also believe the Coyotes want to re-sign pending UFA goalie Antti Raanta. However, if he’s keen to test the market they could shop him by the deadline. 

 








121 Comments

  1. With LA now having over $3m in cap space now I wonder if they may be interested in NYR Nash with 50% retained. HE sure would look good next to Kopitar OR Carter (once he returns)

    If Dallas won’t pay high prices for Nash then perhaps they like Grabner? Grabner (50% retained)/Smith/Pavelec for Lehtonen? Or Substitute in Staal for Smith as Staal is certainly more of Hitchcock type defender.

    If WPG needs a defenseman to fill in the gap then NYR can offer them Holden since their right side is stocked. Holden/Desharnais for a prospect type deal.

    • I still hate the idea of trading Staal or Smith while diminishing the value of a Grabner or Nash.

      Staal and Smith won’t be hard to work around for 3 more years. Keep Smith buried in the Ahl. It shaves around 900k of the cap, keep Staal as a 3rd pairing guy and ride it out. They will not create cap havoc if NY intends to rebuild.

      The only way I hold a dime on Grabner is if the return is way above and beyond. His cap hit at the deadline is nothing (roughly 400k) . I’m not doing anyone any favors by handing of Grabner for 200k.

      • Also, I don’t see any team with hopes of contending taking on Staal or Smith. Bottom dwellers make deals for these type of contracts, never contending teams.

      • I agree, the money held back isn’t even the issue, but you aren’t allowed to hold back money on any more than 3 contracts, at a time, so why waste one on Grabner now?

        If this team is really in a re-build mode, staying flexible in what deals you can offer is a big part of that. While holding back money on Grabner is only for the end of the season, they have already said they would do so on Nash’s Deal. That means at most they could hold back salary on one more deal until after July 1st, and considering they may have other assets where holding back salary could provide more value, and assets they may want to move at the draft, it’s not worth it to hold back on Grabner considering almost no team interested in him needs you to hold salary to get max value.

    • Idk why anyone would take on Nash. IMO he gets to much press & is overrated. A team has to be desparate going after him.

      • You obviously don’t watch much Ranger games?

        Maybe there’s a reason he’s the most talked about potential trade candidate on Tsn, ESPN, NHL etc. or maybe you know more than the rest of the world?

      • Dilly Dilly Nyr4Life. Nash has been model team player. Does everything you ask for. He is on track to score over 20 goals this year as well. 20 goal players across the NHL are touted by broadcasters. They also end up making $4.5m plus….so I think an expiring contract for a model teammate in Nash is ideal.

        Definitely not overrated. Bobby Ryan has 7g 13a and is minus 2 at $7.25m. Nash has 17g 10a minus 6 at 7.8. Nash plays #1 PP and on the PK and on the #1 line with Mika and Zucc. I do not understand why Nash gets so much trash talk and there a ton of guys WORSE than him making less money and some making comparable money.

      • I agree, vastly over paid and hugely overhyped. Product of the New York media. If the Rangers were as good as MSG thinks they wouldnt be sinking like the Titanic. Gorton, Sathwr and Vigneault all have to go. Their the architecs of this disaster. Does anyone want the 3 Amigos running a rebuild? Theyve wasted Lundqvists entire career by overinflating the quality of the team in front of him. Rangers are brutal. Nash is trash.

      • Ron Jill,
        So overrated by the Ny media while he played in Ohio? Makes perfect sense?

        And what a disaster NY has been over the past 6-7 years! A presidents trophy, 3 trips to the eastern conference finals and a Stanley cup trip! God that’s awful! Going back even further…. 1 missed playoffs since 05! By one point!!!!! Brutal! Terrible! What a bunch of Hype! Move over Winnipeg, Edmonton!!!! We got this tanking , losing thing down!

      • LOL spot on NYR. Couldn’t have said it better myself

    • The hardest deal to make is the Pacioretty deal…
      IMO… he is the best overall player in the pool of available players for age, stats and contract as well as he is not high maitanence …low key leader.

      ..but what makes this deal so hard is that Bergevin wants a top 2 Center as the main piece in this deal ….which unfortunately is the most coveted position in the league right now, not many decent players are available to play in a top 1-2 position in Montreal and be a quazi Franchise center while every team is looking to bolster down the middle for a run….hence the crazy asking price on Brassard….If I am Bergevin he may look to take a lesser player down the middle but ask for more quality in the deal in another position.

      Maybe a deal Patches for R N H and a piece could be beneficial to the Habs and Oilers ..Mc David would have a quality winger who can finish on his line…Radulov and Patches were a high quality tandem last year when Patches had a true Center.

      • I get the RNH for Patches talk as it addresses needs for both teams. But I think RNH is being way undervalued in these posts.
        Kal El I don’t understand why EDM would need to add? I would suggest it should be the other way around where MTL adds.
        You mentioned that a top 2 center is the most coveted position right now. Definitely fewer of those than scoring wingers available.
        RNH is 25 and signed to a reasonable cap hit for 3 more years.
        Patches has 1 year left and will try and hit the jackpot as a UFA after that.
        Like Rishaug has said on 1260 and Twin also said below, try RNH on the wing for the rest of the season instead of trading him for one.
        Why not, he has great skill and can skate. Also free’s him from the D responsibility that has impacted his offence.

      • RayBark…perhaps the thought process is RNH is a #2C and not good enough to be a #1C (although on MTL he would be their #1C) while Ptches is a legitimate #1 LW who over the past 4 years has had 30 goal plus campaigns while playing with #3 centers. That may be why people suggest EDM would have to add some form of added value. Not a slight to RNH but more of knowing what Patches really is worth and what will come of him playing with McDavid. I said it yesterday; with McD Patches would be a 40 goal scorer.

      • IHC, I agree MCD would add to Patches goal #’s. Also agree that RNH is a 2C, and a good 2C. He would a soft 1C, of course depends on his wingers. My issue is the same as yesterday, the term of their current deals makes RNH more valuable.
        Good debate though on player value. A Solid 2C vs a solid 1LW. Which is worth more?
        Pretty much a saw off in my mind so default to the term.

      • RAYBARK….if you trade Sekera away for some NHL wingers that can play 2nd line duty I will offer you Kreider and Staal for RNH =)

      • RAYBARK…. OTT has a seedy Gaborik lol…..perhaps Sekera for him
        He is probably the only guy available that can keep up with the speed of MCDavid. Besides Grabner.
        Than we can do that Kreider/Staal deal for RNH & pick

      • Stop it

      • @Nyr4life
        Yawn Dull just doesn’t get it…never has..never will. Rangers have been a force in recent years no doubt. I wish them well going forward.

      • I appreciate that the NYR aren’t trying to wring another playoff push out of this core and accepting the reality of what they are sooner than most organizations do.
        Gorton is and will be a good GM.
        He doesn’t get nearly enough credit for his short stint as the Bruins interim GM.
        2006 draft – Kessell, Lucic, Marchand.
        2006 Off season – Signed Chara, traded Raycroft for Rask.
        Not bad for a few months work!

      • Ray Bark,
        I couldn’t agree more. They’ve pushed in all the chips a few times and fell short. Nothing to hang their heads about.
        I’m actually more excited for a rebuild than I would be for a short playoff run.

        They’re in a good position to cash in their assets and build from scratch . Last time they tore it down they made the playoffs the following year which in retrospect was a terrible thing.

        Here’s to starting over, and recognizing they aren’t good enough!

      • But Gortons off season moves last year give me a bit of concern.

      • Jim Matheson is reporting that NYR and Bruins have discussed McDonagh. NYR insisting on Debrusk or no deal.
        As a B’s fan, not sure how I feel about that.
        McDonagh is an upgrade to any D core in the league but the B’s give up the fewest goals in the league already.
        McDonagh is a great player, but that is a lot to give up for 1 year of him.

      • Ya NYRforlife, I don’t get the buying out of Girardi. Also not a huge Shattenkirk fan, but at least the term of the deal wasn’t stupid.
        It is hard to tell which moves are done because of direction from ownership or team presidents regarding whether or not they want to push for the playoffs or not.
        I know Dorion gets slagged, but I would bet some $$ he is being told to save some cash however he can, so off he goes.

      • Pacioretty is not the best player on the market. Try 4th best.

        1. Hoffman
        2. Kane
        3. McDonagh
        4. Pacioretty

        Also Pacioretty is no “quiet leader.” He’s an awful leader and it shows in Montreal.

      • So Kane, a winger with zero playoff experience, and Hoffman are worth more than Mcdonagh? Lmao!
        Yo may want to reevaluate what the actual market has dictated over the last few years!

        Kane does not = more than Mcdonagh! Nor does Hoffman!.

        Do the research!

    • Heh I’d do that deal to get rid of let one in for Dallas :). I’d probably take Staal over Smith in that though :). Figure Dallas wanted to get rid of Niemi/Lehtonen so that would help get rid of him for good. Bishop is the starting goalie there, they got options who will be UFAs at worse to upgrade over Lehtonen anyways. Grabner would give them some scoring depth past their top 3-5 forwards etc.

  2. Less the prices come down on players kane, nash, hoffman ect the oil may get a late first for maroon.

    I been saying all along a late first or a late second and a descent prospect.

    Time will tell i think they should grab a late first, Use it to fill a hole. I think they need to try rnh on mcds wing

    • I think a 2nd & a prospect is a very good possibility.

      I wonder how much it would take Edm just to get him extended. He’s a solid complement to McDavid not ideal but he has played well when deployed as McDavid’s LW.

      • Striker, that is what the Oil are trying to figure out cost to keep and return if you trade.
        I think their preference is to trade and Maroon wants to get paid. As you say not ideal.
        The problem PC has is he has no good young LW in the system and will have to trade for one or overpay for one. So rock and a hard place as they have multiple holes to fill and a sub par prospect pool to fill these holes or as assets to trade.

    • There currently is prices but cost isn’t determined till someone buys. Phaneuf and shoskinov don’t look good for the sellers market

      • I think Shoshnikov moved at market value. May not even be an NHL player.

        I don’t know what to make of the Phaneuf trade makes no sense to me for Ott, great deal for LA. They get a solid 2nd pairing Dman who has a tendency to over commit but can log solid minutes for nothing & Ott ate 25% of his salary & cap hit.

        I assume the prices paid at this trade deadline will be like all others post 2012-13 lock out.

      • with your statements about how you value mid to late picks that says something about your scouting of shoskinov if you think he is work less than a tiny chance the player drafted with that pick could become an nhl player.

      • Striker: The Phaneuf trade saved Ottawa $5.5M in real dollars over the next 3 years and, if last night was any indication, Gaborik still has something left in the tank and played really well with Duchene and Hoffman. If Hoffman is traded (which makes no sense IMO), than all bets are off. Shore is also an improvement over Thompson at roughly half the cost and no commitment going into next year. Dorion has made some bad moves, but this isn’t one of them.

  3. pending UFA’s ( Nash, Maroon , Kane ) will be moved for picks and prospects. Players with term and hefty salaries, not likely. Many teams looking to fill gaps have limited cap space. Like Nyr4life said , not many contenders looking to take on other teams gaffs.

  4. Shoskinov for a 4th? Hoarding young players is a solid way to maximize value for sure.

    • I cannot BELIEVE a #4 pick is all the Leafs got for Soshnikov! What a rip-off! I am SURE this is just a numbers game and the Leafs needed to free up a roster spot for an upcoming move that will land a body in exchange for picks and/or non-roster players, but STILL, STL won that deal HANDS DOWN!!!

      • Not a rip off he is not a good player it’s just leaf fans over valuing their players like usual … simple the only good players on the leafs is Nylander , Matthews , Marner besides that everyone else is not worth much but those three players makes this team a contender

    • Soshnikov had a clause in his contract which allowed him to return to the KHL if he wasn’t in the NHL after a specified number of games. I’ll be interested to see what happens with him in LA. He showed flashes of promise but was injured (legitimately) at times.

  5. I know what i know about Nash & not media educated on him. Idc how popular a player is nor the press he gets either. When its all said & done the NYR will not get what they want & toning down their ridiculous ask price is inevitable. I’ve watched Nash since his draft day & he was a force at one time but hardly that now. I cannot help it if some ppl get their panties in a knot about my opinion. Grabner is a much better example of who teams would target & rightfully so. Nash is a cap dump disguised in what he did not what he can do still.

    • You remind me of a guy that reads stats and not a guy watching.
      Generally speaking I’d say the asking price is beyond ridiculous for most guys on the block. Kane, Nash, Brassard on and on we go.
      That’s the name of the game isn’t it? If all these players were on the block for 4th round draft picks, it wouldn’t leave much room for negotiation would it?

      “A 4th rounder, how about a 2nd and a solid prospect ?”

      Yeah, I can’t see it happening, can you?

      • As for Nash’s value, I guess we’ll see in the next week or so what it is. I’ve gone back and forth here for the last 2 weeks with people. I’ve seen here “tops a 2nd” , “a bag of pucks”…. my opinion? A 1st and an okay prospect or just a solid prospect.

        If I’m wrong, I’ll eat crow all day. But if I’m right, I have a feeling the excuse train will be in full force as to why he got that kind of return.

    • Nighthawk, it is unlikely any team selling gets what they are currently asking for. They are simply worth what somebody will pay, of course they start high.
      It isn’t a cash dump and the NYR can afford to even eat some of the salary if it improves the return. It is simply getting assets in return for a player they are not going to extend.

  6. first time poster…long time reader

    Hearing:

    Karlsson staying in Ottawa

    Tavares leaving Islanders

    Bozak’s asking price is a first round pick

    Jvr is staying with leafs

    Saad being shopped

    Sharp wants to be moved and several teams are interested

    Tyson Barrie is going to move….Toronto on top of list..unsure yet what other players involved

    • I can’t see JVR staying with Toronto and not because of JVR. I don’t believe JVR is a Babcock type player as he is almost always last in minutes played within the top 9.

      I get he can score but he is such a liability in his own end.

      I don’t see the Leafs dealing Bozak – even for a first as the first will be late.

      Barrie would be a nice add – depends on the price of course and other teams may bid more then the Leafs may.

      Regarding Leaf rumors you posted, I would never assume anything on Leaf rumors as Lou has gone on record many times that no one discusses trade outside the private offices. If a rumor is leaked, he will assume it was from the other side and has often said any leaked trade discussion he will kill the deal.

    • If I was Taveras I would sign in Florida with the Panthers for 8 years at 10 mill. The lack of income tax in Florida compared to other places means most of that 10 mill stays in my pocket. Imagine if the Panthers got Taveras and won the draft lottery? Ekblad and Dahlen would be a killer pairing and Taveras and Barkov would be an absolute force.

      • While it is true that Florida does not have income tax, it also does not have nearly the hockey market of some other teams. A player of JT’s stature can easily surpass the cost of state income tax with endorsements in a robust hockey market.

      • Talking about endorsements in the NHL comes up a lot. You need to take a look at the guys like Ovechkin and Crosby make. Then put it into perspective. Tavares endorsement deals would probably not even equate to 2 million per. This isn’t the NBA.

      • Okay, and 2 million per would easily surpass state income tax in even the highest taxed states. Assuming a $12M per year contract, he would pay about $1.6M in California (which is insane), just under $370K in Pennsylvania…and varying amounts in between in other states.

        I realize not all players can get these kind of endorsements, but JT is, in my opinion, one of the handful who can.

      • Stamkos, one of the highest endorsement earners makes 1.5 in Florida. Patrick Kane makes 1 per.
        I threw out 2 million but I don’t see Tavares earning that much.

        The difference between making 10 million per in Florida vs Ny 39% vs 46% for a total difference of nearly 900k per year!

        Then factor in the difference of the cost of living between the two? Gigantic!

  7. “A first, a top prospect and a third piece.”

    This is said to be the asking price for many RENTAL players at this year’s trade deadline.

    A first, a top prospect (Kasperi Kapanen) and a third piece (Scott Harrington) is what it cost for the Pens to get 6 years of Kessel with Toronto holding money.

    Call me crazy, but I can’t see anyone paying that for two months of any of the names bandied about.

    Maybe I’ve watched too much of the baseball offseason where teams have finally gotten smart in terms of valuing draft picks and young players over aging veterans and I’m giving their NHL counterparts too much credit, but I think a second and a mid tier prospect will be the going rate.

    The guys with one year left like Pacioretty and Brassard should fetch bigger packages.

  8. In my opinion,it is a really strong draft class and when we look back in five years, it is going to skew those usual stats, or how a selection at say slot 25 has a so & so % chance of playing 100 NHL games…I think it is going to produce an unusual number of good players into the second round. (Here is my seven round mock, just don’t flame me for Nando Eggenberger, I like him a lot: https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2018/
    I just don’t see teams as willing to to let go of the first rounders as they have in past years, unless their GM sees an urgency that Kane or Nash is going to actually be dominant piece of the roster that makes the road to the Cup THAT much easier. Like mist here, I just don’t see it.
    Sure second rounders, even under 20 drafted prospects, but not so sure all that many 2018 first rounders are changing hands.

    • Bill, 8 of your top 12 are D.
      In your opinion, is that a sign of the GM’s finally placing the correct value of D in the draft or just an unusual number high end D this year?

    • I’ve posted similar comments, not specific to this year. I’ve suggested it will be more and more difficult for teams to part with first rounders, even late first rounders as the pool of talent available seems to be getting stronger and stronger every year. I have predicted no first rounders will be dealt this year. We’ll see.

  9. Generally speaking, I think people need to learn to the difference between overrated and over paid.
    Who exactly is overrating Nash? Anyone out there saying he’s the greatest player on earth? Anyone hear chants of MVP coming out of the garden stands? No.
    When people continue to say these things, you have to wonder if the only place this guy is overrated is in their mind?

    Hmmmmm.

    I’ll wait to hear from my favorite Buffalo fan talking about how every Ranger is terrible and overrated.

    O’Reilly 7 career playoff points 7.5 per, Okposo 15 career playoff points 6per, Kane 0 playoff points 5.250 per, Eichel 0 playoff points next year 10 per……

    But I want to hear more about Nash please! Lmao!

    • Dilly Dilly!

      I disagree where i would retain salary on Grabner or Nash to be able to include Staal or Smith and lessen what we take back. Freed cash on the back end allows them to potential not be forced into trading MacTruck. That has always been my motivation in proposed trades to remove cash on the backend to be able to keep Mac. I rather have a top 4 D that is Mac/Skjei/Shatts and someone than a Skjei/Shatts/Staal/Smith .

      I honestly think Mac will be traded in the offseason and not the deadline. Gorts may wait to see what other teams can do when they have more cap space. Kreider should be on the way out too I would imagine.

    • Mcdonagh just listed and sold his Tribecca pad all within the last 2 1/2 weeks. He’s also been mia with a mysterious upper body injury.

      Unless he’s looking for a nice new split ranch in Westchester county to nurse his mysterious injury…. I smell a trade. That would be one hell of a coincidence, wouldn’t it?

      • Scarey coincidence. I did not know he just sold his place. I did believe he was not “injured” but being hold off so he will not risk losing value.

        Did he buy a new home in Tampa next to Girardi?? lol If Gorts never signed Smith he would not have to trade Mac =( Hank and he are the only Rangers I wanted to rebuild around.

        Note to Ranger players….do not take the C from Mac. Drury had it and well you know what happened. Callahan had it and you know what happened……Mac had it and well you know what is about to happen LOL

      • It sure would NYR. Things that make you go Hmmm.
        Tampa, WPG and Boston all have the type of assets NY would be looking for.
        Hope it isn’t my B’s, no slight on Mcdonagh as I would just prefer they stay the course.

      • I’ve heard that Mac has a fractured hand.

        Not sure what the timetable is for his recovery and therefore how it impacts trade talks.

    • generally you are right new York but in a cap league overrated and overpaid are linked together. a certain percentage of your cap is tied up in player A and he doesn’t perform up to the percentage of that cap that fans want to see then his perceived “rating” goes down.

      of course much of that goes away by the deadline with expiring contracts and pro rated salary. not to mention possibilities of money held.

      I’d love nash on the pens… but would have zero desire to pay what he’s worth

      • Generally speaking I see what you’re saying. Sometimes players are just flat out paid too much from the get go. Or you have players like Drury and Gomez who were handed outrageous deals that they were never going to live up to in the first place. Giving a player more money won’t make him better. GMs tend to do this when they’re trying to fill a hole, or the player was well underpaid going into a contract year.

        But overall, to me they are two entirely different things. Overrating a player is like me saying Mcdonagh should be a Norris candidate, knowing that there are many candidates in front of him who are much better. Or saying Zibanejad is as good or better than Crosby. Salary aside.

        A great place to get a chuckle is looking at money vs. point productivity on Nhlnumbers. You’ll come across some shocking discoveries about great players, and mediocre players. And it’s a fun way to break down bang for your buck.

    • NYR players are heated, not of much of Toronto players are hated but a similar phenomenon. Kessel was a cancer and a horrible player when he was in Toronto in many peoples minds, you don’t hear that much anymore. Phaneuf was a huge mistake, incredibly overrated and a terrible leader and player in Toronto, now regarded as a strong second pair defenceman and a steal for the Kings. I think rangers players or looked at the same way except not as bad. When I don’t get is Grabner. He has been a discount player since he played in Toronto and doesn’t seem able to catch on anywhere and makes less than market value. He is a good player, it is weird how there are some players like him who are trade it all the time and on short term contracts all the time for less than they should be making. Saying that New York should hold money on his contract for a trade is ridiculous, compared to what players make he is paid almost nothing. As for the trade Toronto made yesterday that is fair value for a player who has played three games this year. I think management in Toronto liked him, wanted to give him a fresh start and recognized his actual value. They cleared a roster spot and were able to give a young player a shot where he wasn’t a fit in Toronto. I have no problem with that trade. Since this is a long post anyway I will get into Rick Nash. Like you said nobody is saying he is the best player ever, he is a very strong player who can put up decent points and is responsible on defense. He is likely paid more than he’s worth but that is what happens when you sign someone as a free agent. It is hard to find any free agent who in retrospect was not overpaid. Remember when teams were lining up outside Brad Richard’s agents office to sign him on July 1? Nash Will help whatever team he ends up on for a playoff run. Points are not the only measurement of a player, a good two way forward is incredibly valuable in the playoffs.

      • You must have played for the leafs with all of your insider info. Kessel was and still is great at what he does,put up points while being a defensive liability. His pros have always outweighed his cons. Your calling him a cancer is ignorant and the type of mundane verbiage that is unfortunately all to commonplace on these forums. A little more thought and originality would be greatly appreciated. Have a grand day. Perchy

      • kessel wasn’t a cancer and a horrible player at all—he was on a crappy line with blozak–blozak couldn’t do anything—and was a giant defensive liability–kessel was scoring 30 goals a year—where was everyone else doing that on toronto—

      • Perchy, read TB’s post again. I think he was saying the opposite of what you are trashing him for.

      • I thought I was being fairly clear, I am a Toronto fan and always defended Kessel. Exactly like you said, great offencive upside and that is his role. He is a player you need when you have an established team, not someone a rebuilding team build around so he wasn’t a fit in Toronto at the time that he was there. I don’t think he was a cancer in the room, everything you hear the players all liked him, he is just someone who is media shy but obviously has a good sense of humor, just look at the cup full of hot dogs. My point was that I think rangers players get hated on like Toronto players do, though I think Toronto players are more hated. My point was that people park like players in Toronto our garbage and then all of a sudden like them when they are on other teams. Just like there were people on here who argued that Toronto made the wrong pick and Winnipeg got the better player, like they should have turned down Matthews for a winger. The point I was trying to make, I didn’t realize it was not clear was that Rick Nash is not a bad player and would not be slagged on as much if he didn’t play for the Rangers, and that rangers players are hated sort of like Toronto players are.

      • Let’s just say right now Kessel has never been happier playing hockey. He’s playing with guys who are on his talent level. If the team wins and he scores he gets credit and praise. If the team loses Sid takes the brunt of and criticism and the ire of the fans. He gets to joke around and has his new bff Ryan Reaves to prevent another John Scott incident. Oh yeah and 2 rings and very possibly a third on the way. Life is grand in Kessel land.

      • Perchy I did read my original post again and I’m not sure what you are attacking me about? I think it was pretty clear that I was not saying anything bad about those players, I was talking about what others had said and how they were wrong. I’m not sure where you get off talking to me like that, maybe you should read things twice before you do that and if you aren’t understanding a comment maybe going right to attack mode is not the best move.

      • I never really understood the mentality of dismissing a players value or skill simply because you don’t like them or the team they play for ?

        Personally, I never particularly cared for Gretzky , not a huge Fan of Crosby, and despise Tiger Woods. But I don’t go around acting like they suck either.

      • NYR I never understood that either. Toronto gets it a lot from many people though, not sure if you are a Yankees fan but if you are than you’ve seen it in baseball as well.

        I live in Hamilton which is basically right between Toronto and Buffalo so I used to go to many Toronto games in Buffalo, I can tell you that Buffalo fans have no love for any Toronto players… even some buffalo players like Josh Georges don’t like Toronto, he made the right move not agreeing to go to Toronto and picking Buffalo instead.

      • I was born in the Bronx. You didn’t have another option other than being a Yankee fan in my world! Lol

      • My apologies, you are correct that I misinterpreted and I take ownership for that. I just cringe when the term cancer is used as a description of a player as it is a very strong term that in my opinion has no place in describing an athlete.The English language has so many other options. In Kessel’s case the fact that he is a survivor should dissuade people from using that term. Sorry for the rant, however it hits close to home for me. Sincerely Perchy and I appreciate your polite rebuttal. I shall not comment further on the form. Cheers

      • Perchy, thank you sir. It always bugs me when people referred to him as a cancer as well, or anybody as a cancer. I think we have all been touched by cancer, Kessel definitely has been. Also people commenting on his appearance, saying that he eats too many hotdogs and is out of breath. Apparently the medication he will be on for the rest of his life from the cancer makes him look a bit puffy. I know many conditions like that are treated with prednisone which makes you retain water and look like that, I don’t know if that is what he is on but he is on medication for sure. If he was out of shape and overweight he would not have the speed that he does. I would like to see the people below commenting on his supposedly being out of shape defend him on a breakaway. If I remember right while he was on Toronto he was top five in the league for scoring for that entire time. I don’t think an overweight and out of breath guy who ate hotdogs every day would be able to accomplish that. We’ve all seen him break down the side boards and pop and rest shot top corner, and nobody here commenting on him would be able to stop that.

    • ROR is far far the better player out of he and Nash. Can’t believe you’re even comparing the two. ROR’s $7+ mill is justified. Nash’s $$$ is no longer justified. Nash is probably the most overrated player on the trade block. Maybe even the NHL.

      You’re talking about playoff points which is hilarious. Nash blows in the playoffs.

      Kane hasn’t been to the playoffs so you might wanna mention 0 playoff games before you mention 0 playoff points. 0 points for Eichel in 0 playoff games to buddy.

      You’re just mention something without mentioning the entire piece that needs to be in the conversation. Which is normal thing with Laughs fans and Rags fans. Just another way you’re just a homer.

      No sense, no sense at all.

      • So I guess Kane and Eichel blow? Because he hasn’t even made it to the playoffs? Okposo and and O’Reilly haven’t showed up many times either? I guess because they tsuck too? Oddly both went from perennial basement dwellers, to a perennial basement dweller? Maybe it’s them? All of that amazing talent, all that money yet they can’t even get into the playoffs? They truly suck!

        Lmao!

        Raise your hand if you see that changing anytime soon? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

        They’ll lose Kanes salary, Gain eichels 10 per and still be a bottom dweller!

      • And homers don’t go on a full season tirade about their team not being good enough, about a need for rebuild.

        Homers defend their perennial bottom dwelling team like it was some kind of Dynasty. And make excuses as to why their underachieving, overpaid players can’t quite get to the playoffs.

        They hold tight to a top 5 pick and they promise of “next year we’ll get em”

        Usually while crapping on teams/ players that actually play spring hockey,

        Matt, Jes!? Hmmmmm

  10. Two minutes after the NHL announced the trade Toronto made ( Nikita Soshkinov to STL for fourth round pick) a series of calls were apparently made to Lou.

    An anonymous source has claimed offer for Bozak for the rights to a Phil Esposito hockey stick was lowered to his cousin Sal’s hockey stick. Sal was the regional road hockey leading scorer in Goulais Bay, Ontario in 73-74.

    • not even worth that

    • Are you the Hab lover Frank or the other one?

  11. Paul Maurice was asked what he misses about Adam Lowry; Maurice reply his physical play we don’t have any other wingers that play that style of out, he brings a different element to the game. With that said it makes sense the Jets are looking at Patrick Maroon.

    • I think Maroon is a good fit with Winnipeg’s style of play. I think Winnipeg makes the Cup final this year.

  12. OEL is a free agent after next season. Do you really think he’ll want to hang around the mess in Az? The Yotes management has to be realistic and see what they can get for him at this deadline, as the return will get worse the longer they wait

    • want Staal & Smith & a 1st round pick for OEL & Schenn? NYR will even throw in Desharnais and their plane tickets. LOL

    • Yotes are posturing & playing it close to the vest. Its rare teams do otherwise so they can keep interest high & drive up the price.
      We all know on the open OEL would have every team knocking on his door. Many of those teams would pony up the money. So my Q is how much would he fetch as a UFA? I’ll guess $8m per.

      • I’d say 8 would be fair for OEL. Look at Letang’s contract and would assume it could be similar.

  13. Kessel was known in Toronto for eating hot dogs albeit all beef wringers before and after games. When he was expected to stop cherry picking and actually take his man and come back to be more responsibly defensively that used up more of his calories and he was always gasping for breath.

    As a Toronto fan I say good riddance to him and the human pylon phaneuf who was a defensive disaster and showed poor leadership when as captain allied team to not lift sticks to salute crowd after victories.

    One couldn’t stay out of the kitchen and one coukdnt stand the heat in the kitchen.

    • Really? The important thing is that he didn’t raise his stick to the fans? That was a controversy made up by a negative Toronto media. Who cares, it isn’t even something they had been doing that long, I care whether the team is getting better and winning, not if they waved at me with their sticks.

    • “As a Toronto fan I say good riddance to him…”

      As a Pittsburgh fan I say thanks to your fans and media for running this guy out of town.

      We haven’t lost a playoff series yet since you did.

      Oh, and this year he’s been the MVP of a team that includes Crosby and Malkin.

      Thanks.

      • Yes, I can’t think of a better fit for him than his situation in Pittsburgh. I liked him when he was in Toronto and I am very happy that he found a fit like that and has been so successful. And you don’t read all the hate comments about him anymore.

    • I like Kessel. He was destined to be the whipping boy in Toronto. Having skilled wingers is great, but to think they are the center of building a successful team is beyond dumb.

      There are a few exceptions, Ovechkin, oh wait… well Jagr… oh wait… Then there was Kovalchuk… oh wait, but we always have Nash in Columbus , ummmmm , how about… never mind! It just doesn’t work!

      • Exactly, it’s a piece you need to finish building a contender, not a starting point. He was never going to be successful in Toronto until they got a first Line Center, like Matthews. The timing was bad and his personality wasn’t suited to being the main focus in a city like Toronto.

  14. It’s beyond humorous – how about ridiculous? – to constantly read the Bozak stuff. Ask Phil Kessel about him. Ask Mike Babcock about him. Bozak has played for two sets of Leaf management and coaches. He hasn’t been traded and he hasn’t been scratched. He’s in the lineup game in and game out. He’s a solid NHL player.End of story.

    • BC Fan, I have no issue with what Bozak brings for the dollars we pay him. He was a 60 point guy last year and yes his offense is down this year but can still reach 40 points which for a third line center is fine. He has a strong 200 foot game and yes he isn’t a star and isn’t paid like one. We make him available and I think the return could be quite good – we need him for our playoff push – Go Leafs Go!

      • “We”????

        LOL!

      • What’s wrong with we?

    • I haven’t looked at it recently but as of a couple of weeks ago he was in the league for defensive zone face-off wins. If you don’t think that is important you are crazy.

      • Sorry, it dropped part of my post, Bozak was fifth in the league for defencive zone face off winning percentage.

      • Hudon, I’ll say “we’ when referring to my Leafs any damm time I want.

  15. Kings wont make the playoffs w/ Martinez playing right D where he sucks… NOr will they make it playing 4-5 left shot D-men. If Blake don’t trade Forbort they probably will miss the playoffs the next 2-3 years. LaDue is vastly better than Forbort, even Folin is who least has 7 career goals in about the same number of games… While Forbort has no offense, maybe like 4 goals in his career… Forbort can’t hold the puck in the offensive zone, he can’t clear the defensive zone, nor does he have a shot that can even find the net w/ any velocity.

    Muzzin is their best left shot D-man so moving him would hurt badly. Martinez is older/injury prone who isn’t producing on the right side where he don’t belong. I’m not sure what the Kings will do but I know they are not making playoffs w/ the current roster intact. Maybe they make another bad trade for Kane. They could do a trade for Grabner depending on what he would cost. Though they more likely to do a small deal like picking up Vrbata who is likely to retire.

    Grubaur or so on Capitals might be the best affordable goalie who might become a number 1 on market… Though not sure Islanders will trade for him or any other team. He will be RFA at end of this year… So some team getting him can probably at worse give him a bridge deal making 2-3M for 2-3 years to get a shot to try. Islanders have a fair amt of offense much like his current team. So maybe he would give them a try, since Halak might leave after this season. Then he would only have to beat out Greiss who is making like 3.33M. Saw the Islanders prospect in 3rd period of Russia game. He looked like he would fit in fine in NYI letting up a goal w/ less than a minute to play on limited shots :).

    Even somebody like Maroon from Oilers wouldn’t shock me to see traded to Kings. He has some physical edge to his game which I think they like. Besides they know him pretty well from his time on Ducks. Vegas can try to flip Garrison or some other players :). Them claiming CArpenter off waivers looked like its worked out well for them. I bet the Sharks wish they sent somebody useless on waivers like Ward or another older faded player instead of him.

    Right now I think Sharks/Ducks will edge out Flames/Kings for top 3 spots in Pacific. MOst likely all the teams in wild card will be from Central though its not set in stone. Chicago I would say is basically out of the playoffs… I wish Kings traded for a right shot D-man like SEabrook over Dion though :). Carter shouldn’t even come back for this lost season if Kings are out by 5-10 points by time he is ready. Would be funny if Senators flipped Gaborik to some team in the West for a better deal after Kings flopped on it :).

    • Daoloth would you want Nash & Smith & 4th rd pick for Martinez & Vilardi?

      • Hahaha!

      • No maybe if they took Forbort over Martinez while leaving along Vilardi who will probably be injured anyways :). Kings can’t go forward until they get rid of the 1st round bust they took over Tarasenko. Instead they keep trying to force a square peg into a round hole wondering why it don’t work. Forbot has no offense, just to break even he has to play perfect every single game. Since there is no way he will score to compensate for his lack of offense or mistakes in defensive zone…

        In contrast the guy they lost to Vegas McNabb who they protected Forbort over him along with LEwis and Shore… Well he tied up a game recently on a goal when VEgas was trailing… HE also is good at blocking shots, can play a rough physical game… While Forbort is so soft he wouldn’t even break an egg when he hits somebody in the rare cases they consider his 2 hand touch contact a legit scored hit :). I never liked Smith, maybe Nash I’d roll the dice on if anybody… Though I think Grabner fits the Kings better since he was what they lack speed along w/ ENG ability :). He could slot in the 3rd line while playing PK as a threat to score there too :).

    • so you want nash and smith for forbort? with nothing else added? or are ya ok with Nash/Smith for Forbort/Vilardi?

      bc i’d do vilardi and forbort for nash and smith ten out of ten times at this point in the Rangers rebuild.

      • Heh I’d do Forbort for Nash/Smith just to be rid of Forbort :). Though would rather have Grabner since Kings need speed badly they are hardcore slow… Also he can score ENGs while playing limited minutes on 3rd line or even PK. If want a prospect can have the rainbow warrior SJW kid w/ two moms Dolan or whatever his name is :). Vilardi might pan out in a few years if he can shake his injury issues. He has better size too like 6’3 while that other prospect is like 5’11 who never pan out for LAK.

        I think it would be ironic/awkward for Martinez if he ended up on Rangers… Sure the fans didn’t forget the OT SCF goal he scored against them as a LD where he belongs not a RD :). Kings have to pay Forbort like 2.5 starting next season so rather ditch him now ;). Funny PHT talks how great the Kings are when they were in first… NOw they got an article about how lacking in talent or other things they are ;).

      • Vilardi is untouchable.

      • Doaloth, you need to relax man. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Forborts’ game. He is being paid like a third pairing d man and playing like one too.

        Points mean absolutely nothing to Forborts game, he is a stay-at-home d man, so quit bring up his points or lack there of. As for Ladue he is a defensive liability out there and can’t be trusted, YET!

        And no Seabrook can just stay away, I don’t want him and his contract anywhere near the Kings. Personally I thought they did well with the Gaborik trade, I thought he was untradable.

        I do agree with you on Muzzin though, he is by far the Kings best LD.

      • CK stay at home D-man have not worth in todays NHL. Much like Ralph vs. Norton the Chef of the Future vs. the Chef of the past :). Maybe 5-10 years ago a stay at home no offense D-man would be useful not its not. I can break down the numbers, though you need a certain amt of goals from your D to compete… AS forwards are not scoring 80 goals anymore with 30-40 more realistic… You need to generate enough offense from the right side of the defense along w/ the left side.

        Forbort sucks he has played the top pair minutes D most the year… Every game LaDue has played where he didn’t w/ the Kings having 3/3 Right shot/left shot D-men they have won 100%… Forbort is soft, he don’t hit hard, he don’t clear the crease… Forbort is slow, he can’t make it to touch up on an icing… Forbort can’t clear the defensive zone or keep the puck in the offensive zone… Kings keep pairing Martinez on the right side where he is awful… Even the PHT site had advanced stats of him playing w/ Dion on the right side… They were awful like a combined -21…

        Kings lost a better more productive player in McNabb for keeping Forbort w/ a better contract/cap hit that Vegas game him. Next year Forbort will be making 2.5M while Folin is at like 800K or 600K whatever some minimal contract… GRavel is at 650K I’d rather have him as a 6th or 7th D-man even from left side than Forbort not to mention Fantenberg.

        You can’t win in todays NHL if you are giving 4 career goals in like 160 NHL games. There is almost no chance of Forbort generating offense so just to break even he has to play 100% perfect without mistakes. I’m relaxed rooting for Kings to miss playoffs until they start playing 3-3 Right shot/Left Shot D-men. AT very least they wont win anything or even make post season having Forbort in the lineup… That saves me hundreds to thousands of Kings gear I don’t have to buy for them not winning Cup or even Division :).

        I got Vegas who will lost in 1st or 2nd round or WCF by having only 1 legit right shot D-man… Miller a former King who they stupidly traded to Boston losing Martin Jones who should have kept over Quick if anything… Jones just led a hopeless Sharks team to SCF while Quick was on the IR recently :).

        Every Kings game I watch I focus on how bad Forbort is… On my birthday he had missed the game w/ an injury causing the Kings to easily win :). Even besides Forbort they were playing Gravel over LaDue to have 4-5 left shot D-men. LaDue is a better player now than Forbort will ever be or even Gravel. Keeping him out of lineup over trash isn’t helping them improve. Kings same team who lost 4th overall or so Hickey on waivers to Islanders for Robyn Regehr who is like an older version of Forbort. Scuderi is another guy who maybe back in 2012 had use but was clearly dated when he came back.

        Stay at Home D-man are worthless in todays NHL. Maybe as a 7th D-man or if somebody is hurt they can fill in a few games otherwise they are a liability… If you can’t even score 5-10 goals its useless… Even to generate like 30-40 points instead of 10 or 20 makes a huge difference. Kings can’t score from lack of their defense being able to help generate offense making the forwards have to backcheck or play more passive defensive to cover for them.

        Teams easily scheme against Kings when Martinez is on right side… He can’t play the puck costing them 1-3 seconds… He tries to take it on the backhand to keep in offensive zone making it easy to stop any passing or flow… In defensive zone he gives up his back playing the puck very awkward which is likely to lead to injuries from getting hit etc. Not to mention he is blocking a lot of shots increasing the chances he gets hurt. If Kings had Tarasenko instead of Forbort they would be going for their 3rd or 4th Cup at worse :).

  16. Bozak and JVR are the fingernail twins of hockey avoiding any contact, are poor defensively and despite numbers they don’t carry the team.

    • Frank , if my memory serves me correct from reading previous posts you are a Habs fan …I guess with nothing positive to talk about in Mtl so you have to dump on other teams?

  17. Ferry,

    I am the Leafs fan. There is another Frank who is a Habs fan. I know ver little about the Montreal Canadiens so I never contact them.

  18. I hope Georgie is good. Georgie!!! If youre there knock three times!

  19. 💯!!!!! 🎉✉️🎉🎊🎉

  20. Just a thought but if the Lightning were to make a move they might want to consider somebody like Keith or Seabrook. Chicago will probably make a bunch of moves if not now then in the offseason. Kane would definitely be a good fit for them, too! They need another winger. They’d definitely have to give up at least one 1st & a player. They’d probably have to send somebody like Johnson or Killorn over. Wouldnt be surprised if Kane & Toews want out soon. Lightning could use another defenseman & another winger. They could also use a goalie behind Vasilevskiy, too! Budaj sucks & their other backup is inconsistent. They could use a reliable backup.

    • if they need another winger …which i am not sure they do…but for arguments sake perhaps a prospect and Callahan to AZ for Domi. Frees up cap $$ and they can always use Domi as a chip to push for Karlsson in OTT… ??? I do not see Keith or Seabrook as a good fit at all. Overpriced for what TB really needs. Karlssson brings more to the table at this point and he may take a $10 per instead of more to play with Hedman and a Stanley Cup contender.

      • Hahahaha! Have you seen Callahans stats this year? He makes Smith almost seem like a guy worth trading for! Lmao!
        I’m a Ranger fan all day, a lightning fan because I’m here.

        Nobody, and I mean nobody is taking calllahans deal!

    • Perhaps a Callahan, Sustr and a top prospect to AZ for Domi & Hjalmarsson.

      Callahan helps them stay above the floor next season and allows AZ not to have to resign zac rinaldo and brad richardson. He would reunite with Stepan. Sustr is a dman to replace Hjalmarsson and cost $2m less than him. AZ then gets a top prospect back for Domi

      TB gets the defenseman you say they need, with stanley cup experience. They also get a young winger you say they need.

      • Yeah Hjalmarsson wouldn’t be a bad fit for them either & yeah Callahan might be on his way out sometime soon, too! There were talks of them considering Karlsson, too! Especially when he’s good friends with Hedman, too! The Lightning are one of the teams Mcdonagh is rumored to be going to maybe.

    • Well the last contract Seabrock got broke the bank w/ like 6.8M cap hit… So to move him Chicago is going to have to pull a Dion taking like 25% of his salary would be my guess… He signed the new deal for 8 years, maybe the final season or seasons are fair to buyout but still kinda costly. He just needs to get back to the 14 goals, 49 point type season instead of barely anemic offense etc ;).

      Short of trading him for Dustin Brown I don’t know who or how they will move Seabrock without retaining salary at very least :).

  21. YO YO YO! Lightning just signed Roman Hamrlik & Cory Cross.

    • a good depth signing would be Chris Gratton…he can pull a Mike Fisher.

  22. Where is the Leaf news !

    Other than Stanley cup finalists