NHL Rumor Mill – June 27, 2018

by | Jun 27, 2018 | Rumors | 121 comments

Updates on John Tavares, Paul Stastny, Jack Johnson and more in your NHL rumor mill.

THE TAVARES WATCH

NEWSDAY: Andrew Gross reports the San Jose Sharks and Boston Bruins made their pitches yesterday to New York Islanders center and pending free agent John Tavares at his agent’s office in Los Angeles. The Islanders and Toronto Maple Leafs made their presentations to Tavares on Monday and the Tampa Bay Lightning and Dallas Stars will meet with him today. It’s possible other teams could also get an opportunity to talk to him. Tavares is slated to become an unrestricted free agent at noon ET on July 1.

THE ATHLETIC: Joe Smith lists the ways the Lightning could squeeze Tavares under their salary-cap ceiling if he agrees to sign with them. Trading Tyler Johnson or the recently re-signed J.T. Miller or buying out or trading Ryan Callahan next summer are three of his proposed options.

WINNIPEG SUN: Ken Wiebe reports Tavares’ decision could affect the Jets’ plans to re-sign center Paul Stastny. The two sides have mutual interest in working toward a new contract, but the Jets have several notable restricted free agents (including Connor Hellebuyck and Jacob Trouba) to re-sign. As a result, they might be unable to afford Stastny if teams that lose out in the bidding for Tavares look toward the Jets center as an alternative.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Lightning general manager Steve Yzerman has acknowledged he’ll have to make some adjustments if his bid for Tavares proves successful. Someone will have to be moved in a cost-cutting deal.

As for the Jets and Stastny, I believe it was Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman who suggested they could free up cap space if they can find a taker for backup goaltender Steve Mason and his $4.1-million cap hit. Easier said than done, perhaps, but it could be possible. There are several clubs seeking goaltending depth this summer, including the Islanders. that have the cap room to take on Mason’s contract. 

The Montreal Canadiens are believed among several clubs with interest in Winnipeg Jets center Paul Stastny (Photo via NHL Images)

CANADIENS NEWS

TSN: The Montreal Canadiens are among several teams reportedly with interest in Jets center Paul Stastny.

JOURNAL DE MONTREAL: cites a report by TSN’s Bob McKenzie suggesting we shouldn’t be surprised if Tomas Plekanec returns to the Habs this summer. The Canadiens traded Plekanec at the trade deadline to the Toronto Maple Leafs.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Given the Canadiens’ need for depth at center it’s not surprising they’re among the suitors for Stastny and considering bringing back Plekanec. Forget about them becoming a late suitor for John Tavares, as he’s already informed them he’s not interested in coming to Montreal. 

PENGUINS INTERESTED IN JOHNSON

PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE: Jason Mackey reports a source claiming there’s mutual interest between the Penguins and Columbus Blue Jackets pending UFA defenseman Jack Johnson. Penguins captain Sidney Crosby has apparently been lobbying for his club to pursue his old friend. GM Jim Rutherford has acknowledged his intention to make at least one move to give himself more salary-cap flexibility.

THE ATHLETIC: Josh Yohe notes the Penguins’ re-signing of Bryan Rust yesterday to a four-year, $14-million contract leaves them with just over $4 million in salary-cap space. He expects Rutherford will likely re-sign center Riley Sheahan and defenseman Jamie Oleksiak. He also wants to add another forward and defenseman.

Yohe lists winger Conor Sheary ($3 million annually), defenseman Matt Hunwick ($2.25 million), winger Carl Hagelin ($4 million) and center Derick Brassard ($5 million cap hit, $3.5 million in actual salary) as potential trade candidates. He considers trading winger Phil Kessel or defenseman Kris Letang “quite unlikely to happen at this time”, as Rutherford “pointedly shot down such ideas during his sit-down with reporters in his office on Monday.”

SPECTOR’S NOTE: If Rutherford intends to sign Johnson he’ll definitely have to dump some salary. Of those trade candidates, Brassard would likely attract the most interest. There’s a market for quality centers and interest in Brassard could increase once Tavares and Stastny are off the UFA market. Sheary’s youth and Hagelin’s speed could make them enticing trade options. 

**UPDATE** The Pittsburgh Penguins traded Conor Sheary and Matt Hunwick to the Buffalo Sabres for a conditional fourth-round pick in 2019. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: That move clears over $5.2 million from the Penguins salary-cap payroll, giving them over $69 million invested in 17 players. Looks like Rutherford is setting up to make a significant acquisition soon. 

CANUCKS UPDATE

THE PROVINCE: Ben Kuzma reports the Vancouver Canucks have reached out to the agent of Boston Bruins pending free-agent center Riley Nash, who believes the Canucks could be poised for a turnaround in their fortunes in the near future.

SPORTSNET’s Rick Dhaliwal reports the Canucks are among four-five teams with interest in Los Angeles Kings UFA winger Tobias Rieder.

LATEST ON LEHNER AND MAROON

THE ATHLETIC: Craig Custance reports Buffalo Sabres UFA goaltender Robin Lehner made an in-person visit to Detroit yesterday to meet with Red Wings management and coaches. The Wings are seeking to fill their backup goaltender position, which could be an appealing destination as starter Jimmy Howard is oft-injured and entering the final season of his contract. The Wings have also spoken with former Wings forwards Valtteri Filppula and Thomas Vanek.

 

 

 








121 Comments

  1. If yesterdays Sportsnet story on a trade of ROR to Montreal at the draft is true then the asking price was a first and 2 lesser picks. It was said ROR to Montreal, Pacioretty to NYI and pick 11 or 12 to the Sabres plus 2 lesser picks. Lou called it off when the draft fell the way it did. It becomes apparent that Botterill wants to rid the Sabres of ROR, is it the contract or the player or both because he is willing to accept no immediate help on the worst team in the NHL just to get rid of him.

    • Sabres picking up Conor Sheary is pretty nice.

      And do not kid yourself – O’Reilly will not come cheap.

      • Connor Sheary will be a nice add for Buffalo’s second third line with speed..he did score 18 goals last year…we finally got rid of Hunwich! While jack johnson is n’t awful we cleared $5.25 million in cap space for him and to resign Sheahan..mmmhhh 3 YEARS WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN 5 !

      • Johnson was a healthy scratch in Columbus, he isn’t worth 3 million

      • oh, Jack Johnson is worth more then 3 million.

        how about you just worry about your Bruins. That might be all you know about hockey.

  2. Preminger, although a long shot… do not count Rangers out of the Tavares sweeps. Only team that has cap space, good young core, future HOF goalie, great prospect pool for long term success… no superstar player to play second fiddle to and available position of captain!!!!

    • Preminger???? Friggin auto correct! Remember

    • What about Montreal when they trade Pacioretty? Prospect pools are pretty subjective, but Montreal by just about every account I read had one of the better drafts this year, and have playmaking type wingers to play with a goal scoring Tavares, and future HOF goalie and #1D.

      For the record I don’t think Montreal has any shot what so ever of getting Tavares, just illustrating that it can be relatively easy to imagine any team that has some prospects and talent is made better by adding Tavares if they need a #1 center.

      Personally I think it’s really between 3 teams, with maybe Tampa as a Darkhorse contender. I think the Islanders have a massive inside track, while Toronto and San Jose are trying to make it interesting.

      I don’t think the idea of potentially having to compete for the tag of #1 Center is a concern what so ever in Tavares mind, as long as it’s because the team is good as is, and he is what puts them over the top.

      It’s an interesting story, but the worst think right now is that it feels like the whole hockey world is waiting on a decision from JT before other dominos fall.
      I really hope if he is going back to the Island, they he signs an extension before July 1.

      I just think there is less that a .1% chance he goes to any team that didn’t get an initial interview. That’s not trying to play favourites, but I would have guessed it was like a 85% chance he was going to stay with the Islanders, and everyone else is fighting for those last few points. If he invited 4 other teams to interview, I would give them a pretty big edge over teams that have to hope to get to pitch by phone, so I just don’t see much chance of that happening.

      • Agree. I think it’s 50%isles/ 25% SJ or Leafs. I laugh though at the people who guess who’s closest to cup. 3 out of 4 teams in this years conf finals weren’t in playoffs season before. Obviously adding Tavares makes any team better, so it’s hard enough winning the cup let alone trying to speculate who os

      • I think best bet to win a cup isn’t the team that should be best for a particular year, but a team that looks set up to be amoung top 10 teams for the longest span.

        Pittsburgh won 3 cups, but the 1st was nearly a decade away from the 2nd. Washington didn’t win by only now figuring out how to play, they kept adding to their experience and stayed competitive for a decade and finally having the experience pay off at the same time that some breaks went their way.

        Personally, if I had to guess, I would put the Leafs ahead of teams like San Jose, as they seem to just be entering their window of competitiveness, and only really have one awful contract, and several good ones. They may not be the favourite for next year, but I feel like they have the most years that they are in the conversation left.

        Tampa and Boston are close in that way too, they were better last year, and neither team is driven solely by older players, but no other team is offering success driven by as many 25 and younger players as Toronto’s is.

      • Tavares wants to win sooner than later. I’m sure the Islanders are going to improve next season and should only get better; especially with Lumarello and Trotz now on board. NYI have an excellent core of young players, but I think the Leafs also have young core players complemented with a more in-deeper farm system and I would argue a well balanced and focused management team from bottom to top. Toronto Maple Leafs are in a win mod now, and if John Tavares signs with the Maple Leafs, he should be tasting the fruits of his efforts a couple, few times over.
        From a biased, but passionate Leafs fan and everything ice Hockey:)
        Go Leafs!

    • All the talk of how loyal etc bla bla Tavares is makes me believe that is why he would not even consider the Rangers

    • Tavares wants to go to winning team not a rebuilding team. A good young core? Half the players have not played in the nhl yet to even judge them, could be a handful of busts. Jimmy Vesey did not turn out good so far. You thought he would of based on his first month two seasons ago. Lundqvist is done, has a had horrible last two seasons, even before the rangers got bad he was losing it.

      • Winning team? Like Vegas? One hit wonder with a goalie 1 year younger than Hank and a roster of misfits that all need contracts. Toronto? What have they won? Which winning team are you talking about? Isles? Team missed playoffs with Tavares! SJ has 3 Stars all over 30. Rangers “unproven” players under 30… Kreider, Zibenajad, Buchnevich, Vesey, Hayes, Zucharello, Fast, Spooner, Namestikov, Shattenkirk, Skjei, Smith

      • Vesey has 2 years of NHL experience, still at least 1 year away from fully breaking through.

        Has yet to play above a 3rd line role consistently. You can’t judge 80% of forwards until they have at least 200 NHL regular seasons under their belt. Nor is development linear. There are peaks & valleys for a whole range of reasons.

    • It’s time to let it go. Tavares camp hasn’t met with NY, called NY and there is no interest there at all. Gorton said today he’s interested in being a 3rd party involved in a salary dump from Toronto, Dallas , Tampa etc. That’s as close to Tavares as NY is getting….. let it go. If you say it everyday…. it’s not changing reality!

      It’s funny. As much as I hate Brooks , he was spot on with people thinking the Rebuild would be over in 3 months….

  3. If the Pens traded all those assets to get Brassard just to trade him away for cap space to sign Jack Johnson then the fan base is going to have a meltdown. JJ has always been very overrated but now he’s just a bottom pairing dman with fleeting skills that, no matter what his contract ends up being, is going to feel overpaid. Yes they will make a trade, they have too many wingers signed, but I’m still betting on Haglen being the guy, maybe Sheary.

    • Jack Johnson was a healthy scratch for Columbus late in the year and for the entire playoffs. Considering his financial situation I would imagine he goes to the highest bidder. He is a #6/7 D at this point in his career. I have no idea why the Penguins would even be remotely interested in him even if we clear the sheary and hunwick (god awful player) contracts

      • To GMJR—— please Noooooooo

        JJ will become the next TWSNBN

        He is looking at a lot of money to make up fro losses from his Parents. He is, as Fialon has pointed out— 6D/7D at best.

        this is not a move they should make. They need to get rid of TWSNBN, but if you are replacing him with JJ (at more I might add) then it is a worse situation.

        There are so many more options out there

      • Hunwick

    • You give the average fan too much credit deee. Many will look at brassard failing to fit in well (even though it was mostly due to injury) and they will look at Jj due to his name Crosby friend etc and be ok with it.

      • Chrisms

        “No soup for you” for mentioning that name

      • ITS OFFICIAL… JACK JOHNSON IS A PENGUIN..LOOK ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN HUNWICH ANS A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE COME TO PITTSBURGH AND GOT BETTER HE CAN PLAY WITH MATTA IN THE BOTTOM PAIRING….PENGUINS DEFENSE AND DEPTH LAST YEAR WAS AWFUL THIS IS A SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED SOMEONE ELSE AND 3 YEARS INSTEAD OF 5 BUT WE WILL SEE. I DON’T THINK RUTHERFORD IS DONE…

      • Are you serious right now? Jack f’ing Johnson on a 5 year deal no matter what the cap hit is the beginning of the end. This is Scuderi all over again except Id rather have Scuderi back. Johnson lost his job to Scott Harrington, we had him once and threw him in on the Kessel deal. Last year I had a meltdown when he signed Niemi and everyone said oh he’s just a backup. I said well he still is going to get starts and he’s going to get destroyed. Well this is 2000 times worse than that. We could have buried Hunwick in the AHL and kept Sheary and his .6 ppg. Paying Johnson 3-4 million means if he’s healthy he’s going to play no matter how bad he is. Can we trade Ruthetford for Botterill? That’s a trade I’d like to make before he screws everything up. Rant over he did re-sigh Sheahan for 2.1 but for only one year.

    • Given their current roster makeup and cap situation, Conor Sheary is as expendable as any player could be.

      I still think he’d be a great fit on Eichel’s LW.

      I’d give him to the Sabres for a prospect they don’t plan on signing or a 7th or futures (if those still exist) if they take Hunwick. Their blue line is bad enough that he would play in their top 6.

      • MG— now you are talkin’

        That’s a trade that would benefit both teams

        Pens free up $5.25 and rid a brutal entity from their Press box

        Buff gets winger useful to team and penalty of acquiring TWSNBN (don’t say it Chrisms!!!!)— might get mid round instead of 7th back

        GMJR — please consider— however please do not consider if you are using all freed up Cap to acquire Jack Johnson— many more D Fish in the sea that are much better and come much cheaper

      • “@DarrenDreger

        Pending trade call Sheary and Hunwick to the Buffalo Sabres for a pick.”

      • wow MG… your fingers to gmjrs ears

      • your fingers to gmjr’s ears mg… congrats.

      • pengy gonna have to clean up his computer screen when he hears this.

        looks like a 4th that turns into a third conditionally. And people said the pens would have to pay teams to take sheary.

      • The cost to dump Hunwick was Sheary, that is kind of steep but it was it is. So the Penguins have about 10 mill in cap space suddenly and only have Sheahan(2.5) and JO(2.5) to sign. I hope that doesn’t mean Jack Johnson(4) and Kunitz(1) or something else that’s stupid. I hope it means more like DeMelo(2.5), or Petrovic(2.5), and Duclair(2), Reider(1) that makes sense.

      • then jmjr dodged a bullet. if JJ comes at a reasonable price bring him in… bring in Kunitz who dramatically outplayed Kuni2 last year. solid solid moves.

      • Wrong! Kunitz and Johnson are terrible choices and should not be considered at all. If they have a time machine and can bring 2012 Kunitz then sure but this 40 year old version is not going to work out. And if he starts pouting for not being on Crosby’s line like he did in 16-17 then it really doesn’t work. Let’s bring back Dupuis while we are at it. Living in the past has no future.

      • Me and Mr Wilson are definitely BFF’s. always agree on everything.

        kuni2 8 points last year while not playing a meaningful role. Kunitz almost 30 points… its not even debatable. JJ at a 1 year show me deal for 2-3 mil would be an ok reclamation project for me.

        youth isn’t always better. I know its the hip thing to do to join the ADHD brand new toy bandwagon but come on.

      • Dee..calm down yes neimi sucked so did hunwich…but look at the players that come to Pittsburgh and improve..schultz sheahan olisiak..kassel went to 92 points…his term is ok and can easily be dealt at the deadline of he sours.give goncharoff time to work him in..pens d ducked last year..

    • Sheary was traded before you post was made!

  4. Tavares is, I think, the darkest of dark horses to come to Tampa, as Yzerman would have to do a major restructuring to accommodate him. That said, if it would make the team better, SY would probably undertake the challenge. People suggest the friendship with Stamkos and the low taxes and the great owner as reasons Tampa is in the mix at at all. I’d suggest another: In Tampa Florida a star hockey player can have a pretty normal family life away from the rink. The demands on a player’s time are a fraction of what an aggressive northern market demands. One newspaper with respectful and honest beat writers, and a relatively non-intrusive broadcast media…and you can play golf or go fishing or to a restaurant without being hounded.

    • I for one would like to see a Canadian superstar player who embraces the chance of winning a cup in their hometown and all the challenges and opportunities it provides. As for the arguments not to, ie. taxes, perpetual sunshine, fans who do not recognize you without a helmet etc. to me are all wimp outs. When you are making that kind of coin, how much do you really need above everyone else in the league to live a very comfortable lifestyle? You can fly to the sun whenever you like when you are not playing. You grew up in Canada, it did not kill you, maybe it made you stronger? Why not be near family if you say family is really important to you? Did you think becoming a superstar would make you invisible? Be a man, embrace it all! Dont be like Steve Stamkos who cannot handle the pressure, or Rick Nash and Brad whats his nuts who went for big shiny New York only to win as many cups as the Leafs since 1994. Come home Tavares and change history.

      • You tell em Murph!!

      • No one has mentioned the endorsement opportunities JT wouldd have in TO verses other locations. Yes he could do some in SJ but TO will have many more I would think. Great points above Murph

      • Yeah who wouldn’t choose to be bothered and stared at every time they left their house and followed by tabloid photographers all day while being blamed on the front page of every sports publication and news source every time you lose a game when you could live bother free in a place it doesn’t snow and just focus on hockey? He should play there for fans like you that will turn on him the moment he goes through any kind of slump just because he was born there? He’s spent a third of his life( all of his adult life) away from Canada.

      • Dee,

        A lot of pro athletes, coaches, executives and media personalities live in Toronto. I used to live in Toronto, near Geddy Lee of Rush, and now live in Oakville where there are many current and former pro Athletes. I see John Shannon at Starbucks every morning and sometimes chat with him. I have seen Asst Coach Jim Hiller at the Rink, and Brian Papineau around town. I know him but personally as our sons played hockey together, but people leave these folks alone, and are very respectful. If they have somewhere to go, they keep walking, sometimes they will chat. There is mutual respect. They are not walking down Yonge St. 16 hours a day fighting off fanatics. They go on with their lives, and I think Tavares can handle it, he seems pretty mature to me. While fans like me would love to see him play here…he would not be coming to play for me or any fan, he would be playing for himself, and his family. I would not get to spend a day with the cup if it is won, I do not get the 88 million or so that is being thrown at him, and I did not earn any of it. Please give him more credit than that. As for the media they do not chase them atound outside of the rink in their private time, and quite frankly some of the media are more recognizable and out and about than he would ever be. Sorry, that element is way overblown.

      • And Tavares also has a home here and comes back to train here every summer. He must hate it or else has a very good disguise…..

      • Well said Murph!
        Luv it.

      • I think JT will sign with Boston.
        Of the 6 teams he has narrowed it down to he has the best chance to win a cup in Boston

  5. Tampa moving salary IF JT coming to town would not be JT Miller. The series VS Washington showed the teams lack of size upfront.

  6. Depending on where Tavares lands, said team will likely have to make either immediate or near term roster moves to fit him in long term (expect Islanders and maybe San Jose).

    Some good players maybe be available to make room… Kadri / Nylander in Tor, Johnson in TB, Kreji in Bos… as a few potential examples. If I am Montreal this maybe a way to pick up a center.

  7. Personally, as a Shark Fan, I would lie to see ROR or somebody else come to the Sharks rather than to compromise all the possible cap space that Tavares is likely to take long term. Ya, it might cost next year’s first round pick, but that’s always a crap shoot anyways with SJ finishing well every year. Hagelin might be a good consideration as well. Just keep up the plan for speed, scoring and toughness!

    • I don’t think SJ has a first rounder next year as they re-signed Evandro Kane.

    • Why wouldn’t you want Tavares at an extra 3M and save a draft pick? RoR is really really good but JT is Elite!
      Plus it’ll take more than just one pick to land RoR

  8. What do you all think Boston offered Tavares? They undoubtedly would have to move Krejci and Backes but do you think they would have to move others?

    • Bob,

      I think all 5 offers (and of course a match by NYI) would be relatively close (all within $0.5M) and in the $11M range per.

      Outside chance that Toronto does the 1 year max contract offer— but I don’t see it being offered and don’t see it accepted.

    • They have 13 million in space so technically they don’t have to move anyone. But need space to sign backup goalie and Kuraly. Also a forward or two. They can keep krejci if they move Backes or Krug.
      I don’t think Boston will offer huge money they will push for the win here talk. So if he wants to get paid he won’t be coming to Boston

    • That would only weaken Boston up the middle. Cannot see how that would be attractive for JT.

      • Boston could do it, but the key would be to move Krecji at $7.25. So not that big a jump.
        On the fence whether I want them to do it.
        As of right now he is a top 5 C in the league. In 4 years will he even be top 10?
        If the B’s don’t sign him, or another top C, their window to win is 2 years.
        With him extend that by a few. They have a deep prospect pool on D, and decent on the wing. At C they don’t have much other than for 3C.
        Usually 1 or 2c need to be drafted.

  9. Re: TB freeing up space— first move must be Callahan. Cap $5.8M actual $4.7M.

    IMO buyout too much in Cap… save $3.9 in Cap this year and next but hit with Cap hit of $1.9 in years 3 and 4

    If they can trade with 25% take back… they save $4.3M in Cap room this year and next and he’s off the books after that. Recieving team gets him for Actual of just over $3.5M (cap of $4.35). There has to be takers at that offer.

    IMO Cap space way more an issue with TB than actual dollars spent

    If anybody can pull this off it will be Stevie Y

    As Richard mentioned above– TB has the pull of great community, weather, and way less media intrusion

    Add to that the massive take home increase over places like T.O. (about $11M extra take home over term of contract) and a higher likliehood of SC… I think if JT does move– TB good shot

    However, my gut says still more likely that he stays NYI— he has been very loyal

  10. If Tampa loses on JT do they go after JVR?
    Top 9
    Stamkos Kucherov JVR
    Point Gourde Miller
    Cirelli Palat Johnson/Killorn

    You get the feeling with JT Stamkos could move to wing…

    • You’d probably see Point moving to the wing. That kid is a beast and can play anywhere.

  11. I think Tavares will go, and Plekanec won’t return, for the same reason. While it makes sense for both guys to go back to their teams (NYI/Mon), human nature generally dictates that once a person makes up their mind that trying something new is acceptable, that quickly shifts to “trying something new is exciting”.

    Of course, this doesn’t happen 100% of the time (see: Stamkos, Steven & others), but I think it happens more frequently than not. Every year pending UFAs are traded and rumoured to go back to their previous team; it almost never happens.

    Predictions:
    – Tavares to Leafs
    – Plekanec to a contending team on a $1M deal as a 3/4C (don’t know if Dallas/Florida/St Louis need a 4C, but a team like that)

    • Important side note: I say JT to the Leafs, but I am definitely *not* a Leafs fan! No bias there. 🙂

  12. I don’t think he wants to return to NY. If he wants to win probably looking elsewhere. Tampa or Boston would be the top teams if he went there.
    San Jose is looking good for lifestyle,tax relief and weather.
    Toronto is his home town.
    I’m thinking he’s going to Toronto or San Jose with Tampa and Boston close.

    • How does tax relief figure into San Jose? Lol

      • Compared to Canada, California is Florida when it comes to taxes?

        I don’t know that there is a legal way to do this, but…if possible…the NHL should structure contracts so that every player is paid out of the league office in NY (or other central location). Perhaps every player could be employed directly by the league and “assigned” to their respective teams.

        This would eliminate the tax advantages and disadvantages that some teams have and make every team’s cap space worth the same amount of money.

      • Dave and dpf

        Cal (SJ) taxes not that much better than T.O./Montreal

        Best take home is : both Florida teams, VGK, Nsh, Dallas (all 5 would net Tavares about $11M more take home on a 7 year $10.5M contract)

        This will not be his deciding factor but if he’s down to 2 teams with all else in his decision bag equal (whatever that may be— chance to win cup, city/fans, location for his new bride/him and family [if planning] etc etc etc.

        Does anybody know whether Toronto is his Fiances home town? Or is she from New York area??

        If she is also a Toronto raised individual— that will add to JTs decision bucket in favour of Leafs.

        I’m not trying to flog the $’s here… but if JT feels the community, fans, ability to win, oppressiveness of local media etc. is all the same… then the potential extra $11M has to weigh in.

        I’ve been saying that I believe NYI is front runner— however if JTs Fiance is from Toronto (anybody know???) and Leafs acquire a solid D in trade over the next couple of days— Then Toronto should be a clear favourite.

      • businesses choose to operate in the fiscal environment they are in… they shouldn’t be punished. If it’s such a big deal then teams should be lobbying their local politicians to change their tax laws. the system is fine the way it is.

      • I don’t think the taxes will matter at this point. Taxes might be why he is adding a team like Dallas to his list instead of say Philly, but once he has the list narrowed down to these 5 teams in particular, he has already decided the teams where the taxes are higher (Toronto, Boston & San Jose) have enough other things he likes that it’s not longer the main concern.

      • MG,

        Not sure how tax law works in the states, but in Canada, tax code isn’t based on where the you are paid from, but what province you reside in.

        Also, international earnings are taxed based on where you resided for half of the year. So players playing in Canada have no way around paying Canadian taxes, as they would have no way to prove they lived and worked outside of Canada for more than 183 days a year.

        As much as it would be nice to create parity amoung the teams tax situations, it would be extremely complex to do so.

      • TSN has a Tavares calculator https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/tavares-calculator To make things easy I put in 10 mill. The net salary looked like the following.
        Islanders 8yrs = $39,608,00
        Leafs 7yrs = $32,788,000
        Sharks 7yrs = $34,286,000
        Lightening 7yrs = $44,338,000
        Stars 7yrs = $44,338,000
        Bruins 7yrs = $40,768,000
        Texas and Florida have no income tax so that is their advantage.

      • Yeah sorry screwed up San Jose
        Dallas was the tax free team.

      • JT better hope that he doesn’t have a bad injury or his knee injury from Sochi flares up again if he signs that mega 1 yr deal ; no one wants damaged goods and teams the following year will re-think the dollar amount they would be willing to spend on a 28 yr old with multiple serious injuries….MHO….It’s risky …

      • MG, Alberta is lower than many states. Plus your expenses are in CDN dollars and your revenue is in US$.
        They are very competitive with any and all tax codes in the US.

  13. JT is gong to Toronto: why would he go to the Rangers? Henrik will be too old by the time their new crop mature……the only place JT would go if not NYI is to the Leafs….makes sense due to hometown issues but maybe that’s also why he wold not go there: too much limelight and pressure. If JT wants that , then it has to be Toronto. If not, he wold stay home in Long Island to live out his career on the edge of playoffs!

    • Pengy – I’ve heard that JT’s fiance is from the town of Whitby.

    • U have to remember he gets paid in US dollars so add 30 percent roughly to his overall since that’s the exchange for living in Canada I don’t think Tavares is worries about the money either he is getting paid I think it’s about comfort for him and fiancé and the team

  14. One better hope the cap never goes down.
    Signing a player or players of $10m or more and no matter how dynamic , handicaps the team. It takes several stars over a few positions to win a championship. It also takes a number of good younger players in the mix.

    I think JT is a star and definitely a top player in this league. However, paying him 11 or 12 does not guarantee a thing. Along that line he is not taking the max $16m for one year. I get the idea but in this sport your next shift could be your last !

    What do the Islanders look like without him (with no return) ? At least the Sens are getting something back

  15. This JT stuff is getting silly, yesterday a TSN reporter tweeted Boston meeting with JT he believed was the shortest of all the meetings so far and the photo of Sweeney, Neely and Cassidy they all looked gloom. We are now down to analyzing the length of the meetings and facial expression.
    Boston is a long shot, I believe he’ll sign with Buffalo.

    • I know. Coverage of this stuff is increasing constantly, but the landscape of the NHL actually seems to be stagnating newsworthy things to cover.

      Next we will get speculation on how Tavares might react to different presenters tie colour and suit choice, and stories like “Tavares seen eating pancakes with maple syrup after meeting with Toronto.. Tavares back to Canada..CONFIMRED”

    • All you guys throwing teams around like Buffalo and the Rags are wrong. He agreed to meet with 5 teams, the Islanders, Leafs, Sharks, Stars, and Bruins. It will be one of these 5 teams.

  16. Winnipeg has 15 players signed and $24m in cap space. On the surface it looks like to problem to sign Stastny but with limited centers available and Stastny considered the second best behind JT, how much is Stastny worth on the open market he made $7m last season, he isn’t worth $7m but he is going to get at least $6m or $6.5 The hard part for the jets is who is left to sign this and next season.
    This season to sign Branden Tanev, Joel Armia, Marko Dano, Tucker Poolman, Adam Lowry, Josh Morrissey, Jacob Trouba and Connor Hellebuyck.
    To sign in 2019 Tyler Myers UFA, Blake Wheeler UFA, Kyle Connor and Patrick Laine

    That’s a lot of grade a talent to sign over the next two season. It’s been suggested to move Mason and his $4m tag, I don’t think they can afford to do that they don’t have a replacement for Hellebuyck if injured or his play falters. They need to look at moving Brian Little and his $5.291m but with 6yrs left and a nmc makes that difficult and move Mathiue Perreault and his $4.124m with 3yrs left and a no trade list of 5 teams.
    The Jets have drafted well and develop well unfortunate there a lot of them coming up at the same time.

    • Caper

      Just as Winnipeg is hitting on all cylinders the Cap problem raises its ugly head.

      Moving Little and/or Perrault as you have said; is going to be difficult

      Would you move a D?

      If they just can’t fit in Statsny — what do you see as the next best C option?

      • Pengy, if no Statsny they’ll play Little #2 c, then still have lowry and Roslovic and Copp for C. No I wouldn’t be trading any of there D unless Trouba forces their hand.
        Danny $24m sound like a lot in cap space, but with Trouba $7m, Morrissey $5m, Helleybuck $4m, Lowry $2m, Armia $2m, Tanev $2m, Dano $1m and Poolman $1m That’s your breakdown of $24m with no wiggle room. Next season with have Connor and Laine RFA and to keep Wheeler $5.6 and Myers $5.5 I don’t see them two taking a pay cut. The cap will probably rise, but not enough. Yes Scheifele and Ehlers are two of the better contract for the team in the nhl.

    • Winnipeg has good cap problems as they really don’t have any albatross contracts. Not saying I would love paying Buff for as long as they are, but I don’t think they have any conracts right now that represent negative value (maybe Mason), and they have some extremely good contracts as well. Not many teams will have a #1 center signed long term for less than $7M.

      Managing things could get tight, but I would rather constantly have to manage a tight cap with positive value contracts and good prospect pipeline than have a team with a couple bad contracts but also lots of cap space.

      Easy way to look at it, if you are spending to the cap with no really terrible contracts, you have a good team. If you have near NHL ready prospects, and a good scouting department and patient GM, you are likely set up well for a long time. He may need to make some difficult decisions, but difficult decisions with tons of talent is better than trying to turn not enough talent into a cup contender.

  17. Stastny is a risk. Lots of injuries in his past and will demand $6m +. A very good player in a short series 🙂 There are better options. I bet MTL will sign him.

  18. It’s over, Pengy. It’s over.

    Sheary and Hunwick for a 4th that can become a 3rd. No salary retained.

    Done deal.

    • Rutheford unloads trash for picks. Well played. Buffalos incompetence rises again.

      Good deal for the Pens, idiocy for the Sabres.

      • Buffalo can buy out Hunwick if needed but they needed depth on their wing which they get in Sheary – I don’t mind the deal for Buffalo at all
        Hunwick was a train wreck in Pitsburgh but he is a year removed from a decent (by his standards) year in Toronto

    • Nice call on that deal. You missed by a few rounds in the draft haha.

      MG is an inside #Confirmed #E6

      Already more accurate than Hockey buzz with 1 correct prediction in the books.

  19. Those slamming a potential Jack Johnson signing are probably the same ones that downplayed all of JRs other defense acquisitions. Many were “bad” or “6/7” on their respective depth charts, only to flourish in Pittsburgh. Hunwick has been his only swing and miss in long line of defenseman. I’ll stick with JR knowing more then the fans since he’s the only GM in NHL history to win back-to-back cups in the salary cup era. Oh, and his “underachieving” team going for three in a row lost to the eventual champs.

    • …and there it is, JJ to Pens, 5 year deal. Will be announced as soon as official FA starts.

  20. I don’t think anyone is really suggesting GMJR makes a ton of mistakes or anything, he is obviously a very good GM. That doesn’t mean people need to like Johnson just because they heard he was interested in signing him. Johnson is not a good hockey player. He doesn’t get better because he gets signed by a good team. He will still be a bad signing, especially given guys like De Haan likely available for similar money and being far better and younger. Maybe JJ can’t get anywhere near what we are fearing he is asking for and he gets him for like 2 years @ $3M per, but with D I think the fear is that there will be enough GMs that overvalue him that he gets more. He has a history of being consistently rated higher than he should be. He was drafted high, traded for Jeff Carter, made the American Olympic teams and champtionship teams, signed a long term big money deal and now is likely going to accept whatever deal guarantees him the most dollars, so I completely get the buyer beware warnings from Pens fans.
    Also not sure what D signings you are referring to. Shultz is the only significant D that they signed, and he was value sign from day one. He was overwhelmed in Edmonton, then run out of town and they signed him cheap and under the radar. I don’t think many thought it was a bad idea to give him a shot, as it cost virtually nothing. Dumoulin was acquired in a trade, and they drafted both Maata and Letang. Hunwick is the only D that fits the mold of being a guy people said was a 6/7 barely NHL caliber D that JR has signed, and they were right.

    • Shultz was acquired in a trade. Re-signed that summer because Shultz wouldn’t take no for an answer. Rutherford didn’t think he could keep him so he didn’t qualify him and didn’t sign him until the middle of July. Fast forward on year Shultz gets re-signed again as the second highest paid dman on the b2b champs. The only FA dman coming from another team Rutherford actually signed was Hunwick. All the other dmen he acquired came via trade. And some of them were better than others. Pedan for Pouliot was a loss, Despres for Lovejoy was a loss at the time, Cole for Bortuzzo is probably even. Shultz for a third was a win, Oleksiak for Archibald(basically) was a win. Hunwick was a failure. No one is perfect but Jack Johnson for anything over 2 million is not a good signing.

      • pedan for pouliot was a wash, despres for lovejoy a win, though not immediately, cole for bortz was a huge win, Shultz win, oleksiak win

      • Dee great points

        Concur on all but would like to expand on my views re Cole/Burtuzzo trade as a push

        I didn’t like the trade at first and saw it as a big loss for Pens

        I liked Bertuzzo and what he provided to Pens and didn’t see anything better in Cole at first

        Cole came around in my opinion after the first year at the same time that Burtuzzo was having some downs with StL

        Cole proved solid for B2B cup runs

        I was wrong in my viewpoints then (at trade) … GMJR saw what I didn’t see

        That said …. I really can’t see any advantage of aquiring JJ…. bottom pairing only … of course at bottom pairing rates

        JJ and agents asking way more (and with term)…. GMJR…. please don’t do it

      • Pedan for Pouliot was a wash are you f’ing kidding or do you just get off being contraion? Pedan is off to the KHL and Pouliot has become a big part of the Canucks D. I would take Pouliot Over jack garbage Johnson and time. Lovejoy was consistently the worst dman on the team for bothe years he was back. Before Despres got hurt he was good enough to get paid 4 mill a year. Bortuzzo is a serviceable bottom pairing dman that will stand up for his teammates and is a great soldier. Cole was selfish and moody and thought he deserved more ice time than he got.

      • Dp looked ok briefly then did what dp does and showed why he is a bust. I’d rather not play a d man than play one that hurts the team. Bad d man on a bad cuver d.

        You really like to rewrite history to justify your fascination with certain players

  21. It cost Buffalo a fourth and not a terrible deal for either side . Sheary will add some speed and maybe some PP time . I hope PENS don’t give it all cap back to black Jack Johnson. Probably gets both Sheahan and JJ signed

  22. If the Lightning do sign Tavares they’ll probably be trading Johnson & probably somebody else. It’ll probably be Killorn. It won’t be Stamkos Kucherov or Point. That leaves Johnson & probably Killorn.

  23. Hallelujah
    Holy Shutout Batman
    This just made my day

    MG— what a call — nice deal — and they upped it to a 4th and maybe a 3rd— wow

    Great things happen during crappy work meetings

    Chrisms— blast away at 30 mentions of TWSNBN now that he has been jettisoned.

    GMJR great great great move; but please please please take a second to pause before the next move. You have space now— do NOT waste this on JJ— would not be a smart move— that would just be TWSNBN V2 at a much much higher cost

    There are a plethora of D options out there

    The following IMO are waaaay better than JJ and will come in less than what he is likely looking for— to name a few, in no particular order:

    De Haan, Cole, Green, Kempny, Hamhuis, Endstrom, De Melo, Sbiza

    Then there is a group that is at least as good as JJ (if not better) and they will come in way cheaper— again in no particular order.
    Moore, Hickey, Connaughton, Holden, Ouellett, Davidson, Shenn, Calaesen

    First order of business IMO — sign extensions for Oleksiak and then come back to Sheahan and try and get him extended for about what he was making; plus extend Jarry.

    After that you likely have 5’ish left, call it 4 leaving a buffer— to sign any one of the bottom group of D listed above AND offer $1M to Kunitz

    … or if you can move say Haglin— then you have 9’ish left to go after a top tier UFA D and plenty of room for another Depth winger.

    … no JJ please and thanks

    • I came here specifically to see Pengy’s reaction

      • I owe MG a beer for his call to GMJR to get this done

    • hunwick

      • Nice Chrisms …. say it again loud and clear …. I’m good with that now

        Who posts on this site that is a Buff fan?

        They might be asking you in Oct…. to not mention his name

        🙂

    • JJ career -109 plus/minus

  24. I know $’s don’t mean everything — but TSN just put up on their site a Net Pay Calculator for JT

    I through in $11M per

    Results for take home of full contract in order of lowest to highest for 6 teams in running:

    $38.5 M SJ (7 yrs)
    $40.2 M Tor (7yrs)
    $45.7 M NYI (note that is the net on 8 years)
    $48.6 M Bos (7 yrs)
    $52.6 M TB & Dall (7 yrs)

    … so if all else (city, media, amenities, chance on winning etc etc etc) were exactly deemed equal to JT (which they are not)— then

    TB & Dall have a $14M advantage over SJ; $12.4 over T.O., just under $7 on NYI (but he’d have to play an extra year); and $4M on Bos

    I did research and found out that JTs fiance is in fact Canadian (not sure where in Can though) and just got a job in Mississagua (which is a suburb of T.O.)

    That has to give some edge back to Toronto

    IMO— if Toronto can just make a move to get a good D in a trade in next couple of days — say hello to Leafs next Captain

    Dubas— IMO — call up StL and offer Wee Willy, Gardner and 1st (19) for Parayko

    or…. call up Boterill and offer up Wee Willy (to play with his brother) and Gardner and 2nd (’19) for Risto and Rodriguez

    • At some point this needs to be addressed by the league. All cap is clearly not equal in this case. At the very minimum a luxury tax idea like the NBA needs to be entertained.
      Gardiner, Willie and a 1st might be too much for Parayko as good as he is. If I have the choice I take the Risto deal all day.

    • What are u smoking.Give up willy And jg and a 1st rounder for 2 Buffalo’s crappiest players lol lol

  25. Lots of teams would love Ryan O’Rielly but only if Buffalo eats about a third of his salary. He needs to be paid like a #2 Center, not a #1.

  26. Feel for Hab fans now their best defensive prospect jumps ship and signs with the Boston Bruins. Montreal better find a GM that knows what he is doing and fast.

    • Obe who is that?

    • Who is that ? Nothing is out there unless you know something no one else does ….?

  27. Mark Madden (blowhard, but has sources) reports the Pens will sign Jack Johnson to a 5 year deal on Sunday.

    • MG

      Great news and crappy news in one day … I’m getting ulcers

      • MG

        Just watched Tim&Sid on SportsNet

        They claim that JJ will be signing (July 1st) 5 yr $16M ($3.2M per) with Pens

        …. I’m hurting again

        GMJR …. $3.2M for a 7th D???????????????

  28. Olivier Galipeau was on his way to Hab camp but made a hard right to Boston where they signed him. Has a shot at making team this year a solid defender.

    • Lol who??? Only bruins fan could think this career ahler as a good prospect! Lol that’s is hilarious I bet you’ve never seen him on the ice before?

  29. Johnny T. sign with the Habs. Ask for $88M/7 years and a lifetime supply of Molson products. Don’t worry about the taxes, language, or crappy weather, the Molson products will make up for it. C’mon Johnny T. sign here.

  30. Crosby,Malkin,Seguin,Barkov,Schiefle,McDavid, Bergeron,Kuznetsov,Backstrom,Mackinnon,Stamkos, Kopitar,Giroux,Matthews …………You could make an argument that Tavares is not in the top 10 centers in the league. He’s only broke 80 points 3 times. I’m a Tavares fan and I personally have him in my top 10 centers but somebody is gonna over pay for this guy BIG TIME.

  31. Probers I would take J.T. over Malkin Seguin Schiefle Stamkos Kopitar Giroux and Mathews