NHL Rumor Mill – June 29, 2018

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A look at the Islanders “Plan B” if they fail to resign John Tavares, the free-agent goalie search plus updates on Milan Lucic, Artemi Panarin and more in your NHL rumor mill.


NEWSDAY: As free-agent center John Tavares takes some time to consider his future, Andrew Gross looks at possible moves by the New York Islanders should Tavares move on. They could promote NHL rookie-of-the-year Mathew Barzal to the first-line center position, perhaps pursue center Paul Stastny via free agency or attempt to acquire Ryan O’Reilly from the Buffalo Sabres.

They also need a starting goaltender and help on the blueline. Ottawa Senators goalie Craig Anderson has requested a trade while free-agent options include Cam Ward and Carter Hutton.

TSN: Ottawa Sun columnist Bruce Garrioch reports the Islanders are among the team to “kick tires” on Anderson, whose age (37) and contract creates a limited market for his services. Moving Anderson would create a big hole in net for the Senators.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: While the Islanders are obviously hoping Tavares will stay I don’t doubt GM Lou Lamoriello has contingency plans should he sign elsewhere. Wouldn’t surprise me if Lamoriello quickly gets into the bidding for O’Reilly. He has the cap space to take on the center’s $7.5-million cap hit and the depth in young assets to tempt the Sabres. As for Anderson, unless the Senators move quickly to find a suitable replacement I don’t think he’ll be traded this summer. 

Milan Lucic’s agent denies the Edmonton Oilers have a trade in place for his client (Photo via NHL Images)


EDMONTON JOURNAL: Jim Matheson reports the agent for Oilers winger Milan Lucic yesterday denied a report claiming the club had a trade in place for his client. “Milan didn’t ask for a trade and Peter (GM Chiarelli) 100 per cent, has not come to us about moving Milan. If he wants to get out from under the contract, he has to talk to us,” said Gerry Johannson. He added Lucic is “coming back to play for the Edmonton Oilers.”

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Lucic was frequently mentioned earlier this month as a possible trade candidate but that speculation faded over the past couple of weeks. If there was any attempt by the Oilers to move Lucic it appears it’s come to naught. 

TVA SPORTS: L.A. Lariviere reports the agent for Columbus Blue Jackets winger Artemi Panarin confirmed his client will be talking with Jackets GM Jarmo Kekalainen next month in St. Petersburg, Russia. Dan Milstein said it’s merely a courtesy call by Kekalainen and not a formal meeting, something the Jackets GM also did last August.

Panarin is a year away from becoming an unrestricted free agent. The Jackets wish to open contract extension talks but he’s not interested in doing so at this time. Milstein also said rumors his client wants out of Columbus are unfounded, as are reports his girlfriend wants to revive her modeling career in a more cosmopolitan city. “He is not in a hurry to sign a new agreement. He wants to take his time and know the intentions of the organization,” said Milstein.

Milstein also said another client, New York Rangers center Vladislav Namestnikov has received a qualifying offer but has yet to decide if he’ll accept it.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: There are reports the Jackets have received trade offers for Panarin but none of them will bring the club immediate help to offset the winger’s absence. Much could depend upon Kekalainen’s roster moves this summer, which includes re-signing goaltender Sergei Bobrovsky. 


THE NEWS & OBSERVER: Chip Alexander reports long-time Carolina Hurricanes goaltender Cam Ward has been contacted by five teams interested in his services. His agent, Rick Curran, said the Chicago Blackhawks were among three clubs that have had extensive interviews with his client. There’s speculation Ward could ink a one-year, $3-million deal with the Blackhawks on July 1. 

BOSTON GLOBE: Matt Porter reports the Bruins can forget about wooing Carter Hutton, as he’s only interested in signing where he has a chance to be a starting goalie. The Buffalo Sabres have reportedly zeroed in on Hutton. 

MLIVE.COM: Ansar Khan reports the Detroit Red Wings are leaning toward signing Jonathan Bernier as their new backup on perhaps a three-year deal. They’re also interested in bringing back former Wings Valtteri Filppula and Thomas Vanek and have had productive discussions with free agent defenseman Mike Green, who could re-sign a two-year deal by Sunday. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Wings reportedly met with former Sabres goaltender Robin Lehner earlier this week but Khan reports he’s no longer a possibility. Not sure if they felt Bernier was a better option or if another club (perhaps the Islanders?) have pitched him a better proposal. 


PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE: In the wake of the Penguins’ recent moves (including shipping Conor Sheary and Matt Hunwick to Buffalo for a conditional 2019 draft pick), Jason Mackey believes they’re not done making moves. He reports they’ve met with free-agent winger Michael Grabner, though the Penguins already have considerable depth at right wing.

If they wish to pursue someone like Carolina Hurricanes left wing Jeff Skinner, they’ll have to move winger Carl Hagelin to clear cap space and perhaps goaltender Tristan Jarry as a key piece of a trade that another, such as the Hurricanes, might want.

Mackey suggests pursuing more affordable free-agent options such as Tobias Rieder, Antoine Roussel or Patrick Maroon.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Penguins are considered by some as the favorite to land Skinner. Cap Friendly indicates they have a projected $8.1 million in cap space but his $5.725 million cap hit will eat up most of it. The Hurricanes will have to take a salaried player back or pick up part of that cap hit. 

BOSTON HERALD: As the Bruins also await John Tavare’s decision, Steve Conroy reports they’ve “kicked tires” on free-agent wingers James van Reimsdyk and Michael Grabner.

NEW YORK POST: Larry Brooks reports the Rangers are interested in Vegas Golden Knights winger Ryan Reaves, who due to become a UFA on July 1. They apparently want to bring more grit and toughness to their lineup.

TSN: Pierre LeBrun and Darren Dreger report the Montreal Canadiens have interest in Tobias Rieder and former Detroit Red Wings defenseman Xavier Ouellet. Frank Seravalli reports Carolina Hurricanes pending UFA center Derek Ryan was expected to meet with the Calgary Flames yesterday.



  1. While nothing is in stone obviously, and several sources are saying if JT leaves the islanders the top runners are the sharks and leafs in that order.

    Who does Toronto trade in the next 12 months to accomidate tavernas contract?

    If I was the leafs I’d keep mariner and Nylander. The one I’d trade would be Matthews as he has the best value, will need the most money and is a selfish player.

    He will eventually be back in the US and probably with the coyotes.

    • Wooooooooooooooooooow! He’s not going anywhere. Where do you get the idea that he’s selfish?

      • I agree. He’s a great player . Way better then JT and much younger and faster. More scoring talent as well.

      • He is not better than Tavares! Give your head a shake

    • Ummm, Matthews is the number one centre, JT would be the second line centre, Matthews isn’t gong anywhere, he will retire as the best Leaf ever. Bridge Nyleander, two years Marleau comes off the books, they can put over 5 mill from Horton on LTIR and burry any contract they don’t want, don’t think so? Take a look they have circumvented the cap many many times and will do it again

      • I hope that’s true but I have a sneaking suspicion that he will return to the desert at some point. Hopefully it will be because he already has a couple Cup rings on his hand…

        Love to see him stay – he’s a great player – I don’t think he’s selfish at all – unless you count being upset that he didn’t get enough ice time against The Bruins – but don’t you want your young stud center to want more ice time? I think he was still hurt too…

      • If anyone thinks JT is coming to the Maple Leafs to play second line centre, they’d better think again! If Tavares comes to the Leafs, he will be the number one centre – there’s no way he plays second fiddle to a 20 year old kid, even if that kid is named Austin. Patrice Bergeron made Matthews look like a high school centre, during their recent playoff series. Was Matthews hurtin? Perhaps. But then, so was Bergeron. This is why Babcock didn’t give him more minutes. So, Tavarea will be the number one centre, wherever he goes.

      • Great points Laurie

    • Why would the Leafs trade a generational player, there is no return other than number McDavid that makes sense. Adding strength to strength means you can deal your tier two talent to teams like Carolina for the back end help you need. I think Kadri would address the 2-3 D man need as there are no real options for a number one until 2019.

      • Cause he’s a “ regular season” generational talent?

      • Youre comparing Matthews to Gretzky, Lemieux, Lindro, Crosby and McDavid?

        Generational players reshape the way the game is played, thought and coached.
        Outside of Lindros all the generational players noted won at least one Cup. Lindros gets included due to the sheer size power and skill of his game, the trade between Philadelphia and Quebec changed the game.

        Matthews? Good player, invisible against the Bruins. Being good doesnt make you generational.

        Youll be singing a different tune when AM runs for the desert the first chance he gets.

      • Except his name isn’t “Austin”?

    • Matthews plays hurt during the playoffs and a big section of Leafs nation prefer to trade him over Nylander etc?

      I would not trade AM straight up for JT. One entering prime and one leaving it

      • One person suggested that, not a big section of Leafs Nation. The rest of us are cleaning up the coffee we just spit out.

    • i don’t know how to respond to the 1st post :/

      • If youve ever met Auston Matthews youd know were im at with this. Ive been a season ticket holder with the oilers for several years now and i brought my 2 nephues (7 and 5) to the game, and more importantly to Hotel Macdonald were the leafs were staying.

        The kids got their jerseys signed, pictures with several leafs players but AM definitely didnt have time for any of the kids that even were wearing his jerseys and an hour before he was leaving in the lobby.

        Maybe he wasnt having the greatest of days, who knows but he definitely rubbed me and everyone else the wrong way.

        As a star player, and a role model for young kids that would typically go with the territory i would think.

        Hes the kind of guy that would be better suited yo play hockey off the grid. Ill be versy suprised if hes still in toronto by the first year of UFA eligibility.

      • “If youve ever met Auston Matthews youd know were im at with this. Ive been a season ticket holder with the oilers for several years now and i brought my 2 nephues (7 and 5) to the game, and more importantly to Hotel Macdonald were the leafs were staying.

        The kids got their jerseys signed, pictures with several leafs players but AM definitely didnt have time for any of the kids that even were wearing his jerseys and an hour before he was leaving in the lobby.

        Maybe he wasnt having the greatest of days, who knows but he definitely rubbed me and everyone else the wrong way.”

        So, you basically used kids to justify stalking Auston Matthews and you think he’s got the attitude problem?

      • Get lost twin. Your a troll in every way.

      • Shut up Ron! I’ve heard the same thing about Matthews it all about him no one else

    • I’m a Bruins fan and I would not even think about moving Mathews.
      I would rather not have Tavares.
      I agree he may want to leave to Arizona some day.
      I don’t see Tavares going to San Jose. Most taxes there.
      I see Toronto on top followed by NY then Boston and Tampa

      • Tampa is in the best position to win now of all the teams vying for his services.

    • Mathews is still a kid too – maybe some growing up to do

    • So basically you want the Leafs to trade Austin Matthews because he refused to sign autographs for your nephews … wow

      • I call bs i have pictures of Matthews w my 60 yr old uncle im sure hed take time for kids

    • Hahahahaaaaa

    • Twin, who the hell is tavernas? wtf

    • Twin your a troll that can’t spell. Who the hell is tavernas?

    • Nylander was terrible in two playoff years, he’s as soft as mink fur, you trade him for a D man

  2. All bets settled by Sunday I hope. Tavares could go into next week. Trades likely won’t happen until some dust settles on the UFA availability but I hope not.
    Matthews will not be traded and he also should not get McDavid money. The smart play would be a 2-3 year bridge for 6-7m. Marner and Nylander will stay in the mix as will Kadri. JVR and Bozak are gone and should be signed over the weekend somewhere

    • I don’t believe Matthews gets bridged. He’ll get signed for around 11 – 11.5M so the Leafs have him throughout his 20s.

      • I agree – if he’s the Leafs’ guy, then lock him up.

    • I don’t think it will go into next week personaly. If he isn’t signed in NYI, or hasn’t announced he plans to by tomorrow during the day, it’s virtually a lock he is leaving since on Sunday the 8 year deal is no longer an option. There is no way he goes past Saturday only to sign a 7 year deal with the Islanders.

      I am not convinced he is leaving, but given that it has been stated that he would likely need to let the Islanders know a day in advance of the Saturday deadline, and it still hasn’t happened about 24 hours after his last meeting, and he decided not to have a final meeting with NYI, tells me it’s not likely as much of a slam dunk to go back as I thought it would be initially.

      Islanders are still the favourite, but it seems teams have given him more to think about then they did Stamkos when he dipped his toe in the market.

      • The deadline apparently for Tavares to sign for 8 years is midnight Saturday EST.

        We had the craziest 23 mins in hockey 2 years ago today. Hall for Larson, Weber for Subban & Stamkos resigning in TB.

        It would be cool if some such stuff happened today but not holding my breath.

  3. Just don’t understand this issue with max 1 year deal and risk for JT? He was at risk all of last season- playing unsigned…?

    Matthews isn’t getting dealt lol..

    • I don’t think there is as much of a risk as people say, but the upside isn’t as amazing for him as it sounds. Most likely the Leafs would be hoping he signs later in the year (if all goes well) for a lower 8 year AAV then it would cost right now. It could be more total money on deals today, but not really that much. Elite players typically age pretty well, and get overpaid on short term deals in their mid 30’s. He could end up playing for $5-6M per year in years 8-9 of the 9 years total contract, when the cap is likely to be in excess of $110M. Meaning he could probably get an $8-10M deal as a 35 year old as long as he is still a viable top 6 player and PP specialist.

      Also he would likely buy a boat load more insurance this year on a 1 year deal, just in case something happens, which means he is likely to spend up to $500k after tax of the extra money he receives this year.

      It’s not hard to picture a scenario where Tavares ends up with a higher career average earnings by signing a 7 year deal for as much as he can get than if he signed 1 for max, then 8.

    • Tavares isn’t signing a 1 year deal risk or no risk.

      To what benefit?

      I’d lay those odds as negative if even possible. Less than zero.

      If he wants to win his addition to Toronto or any team for that matter garuntee’s nothing & several teams he choose to speak to are more serious contenders than Tor.

      I assume it’s not all about the money, money is probably far more important to his agent & the NHLPA as he’s getting over 10 mil per where ever he chooses to play.

      Team, money, location, life style, etc. Will all factor in. I would like to see him resign in NYI but if leaving I’m going to SJ or TB taking in all factors.

    • I don’t see JT playing any longer for short term deals. The Leafs aren’t that closer to a Cup, not with that defense and tying up max cash in JT isn’t going to help the bud’s D. He’s not going to sign for a 1 year max with anybody – he’s going to get max term and the security that goes with it.

      Islanduhs or San Jose and we will know tomorrow earlier than later.

      • IF the leafs manage to sign JT there will be bodies on the move from the Leafs roster to create cap space and get D help.
        No doubt the Leafs D is not nearly good enough

  4. Another angle of ‘Twin’s’ comments re: Matthews; if the Leafs are successful in the JT sweepstakes, it’s a strong possibility that JT will center the first line.
    How will Matthews react to playing second fiddle to JT? The last two years & the end of this season are a good indicator,with the relationship between Babcock & Matthews strained at best. With JT in the mix, may only add fuel to the strained relationship.
    Matthews playing in a secondary role, over time will he accept the possibility of getting less ice time, & less points & potentially lower than expected salary.
    With the salary cap, will JT, Marner, Matthews & Nylander all fit under the cap over the long term?
    Something will have give.

    • Wow, Leafs are trading Mathews!
      How about AM for Trouba, Perreault and Kyle Conner.

      • Ray from a Jets perspective I say no thanks.

      • from the Leafs perspective, hard pass as well.

      • It was a joke.
        Obviously not that funny.

      • Ray Bark the leaf fans don’t like it and the Jet fans don’t like it. Therefore it must be a good deal.

      • True that Caper!
        Personally I think it favors the Leafs slightly.
        Will be interesting to see what Chevvy does in the next couple years when he needs to make some difficult decisions. Great to be in the position to make them, but still some tough calls on who to pay and who to trade.

    • Matthews is a better player than Tavares.

      Why is Leafs Nation so eager to dismiss and/or vilify their franchise center?

      • Leafs nation is not. A couple of guys, including one who wants to do it because his feelings got hurt

    • This discussion is a waste of time. Toronto isn’t moving Matthews unless forced to & that’s when he’s facing UFA status, then only if he’s unwilling to sign. That possibility is a minimum of 5 years away.

      What a complete & utter wast of time.

      • Boy are we ever in the middle of Silly Season or what?

      • Yep Miller. When people don’t know what’s going on in someone’s life they speculate … when they THINK they know they fabricate … and when they do know they criticize

  5. I said all along that JT is going to San Jose – it’s gonna happen.

    • They sure have the cap space

    • That would be awesome for SJ. SJ is a beautiful city, a great place to play. It does make for serious travel issues. Few teams log more air miles than SJ.

      If J.T. signs in SJ I may have to become a Sharks fan. Well at least buy some Sharks merchandise.

      • Boy, do we ever have a different position on what constitutes a “fan.”

      • 👏

      • SJ is a beautiful city? The place is the pits. Urban sprawl at its worst and no character whatever. It’s also Snoozeville. The entire Peninsula south of SF goes to be at 8:00. And of it’s crazy expensive and of course there are California’s taxes and the worst run state in the US. Yuk.

      • I am a Tavares fan. Currently 1 of my favourite players in the NHL.

        My favourite team is Bos but I have a ton of other teams I really like.

        I have idols, Poille, Bettman, Dalley, etc. it’s not limited to any 1 person.

        I am an NHL hockey fan. I have even liked the Senators at times & certainly like numerous players there now but not their short term fortunes.

        You enjoy being a fan your way & I will mine. I don’t begrudge yours but feel free to begrudge mine it’s of no consequence to me.

        Nice to have you back George.

      • Going to bed by 8:00 sounds like beautiful to me. Lucky

      • Noitall.

        Have you been to San Jose?

        Business Insider ranked San Jose 17th out of the top 50 places to live in the US. Your a little over an hour from San Francisco considered to be 1 of the best places to live in the US & some of the best wine country in North America.

        It gets down to the high 50’s, low 60’s in the winter. Summers aren’t scorching hot low 80’s, it barely ever rains.

        How old are you?

        I’ve spent a ton of time in San Jose & loved the City. If I want more action San Jose is like a suburb of San Fran. I lived in Coquitlam for many years it took longer to drive to Vancouver.

  6. Bruins….winger hopefully with size who can score goals, Simmons would be nice in a trade with Krug part of package,,,a shutdown Dman and some size and grit for the 4th line …….

    • Cable no thanks, I wouldn’t flip Krug for Simmonds solely because he’s a ufa as season end. If it’s a sign and trade yes.

    • I hope they don’t drop a whack of cash and term in JVR. Grabner? Sure, if affordable, can skate, good on the PK, and they start to cut back on those tough minutes for Bergeron. His goals are misleading as he had 7 EN goals last year, but it does show that he was trusted to be on the ice protecting leads. Can play in top 6 in a pinch.
      or Tobias Rieder that can be had for a reasonable #. Has some skill can play in top 6 as a fill in for injuries.
      Try and keep the term down as will need space for young guys.

    • I don’t want Krug moved, he is right on the cusp of being an elite level offensive Dman & he is improving defensively although not his role.

      I’d like de Haan signed & Neal would be awesome but his salary & term aren’t ideal.

      I like Simmonds but 1 year from UFA status. His future salary & term demands mean your paying an older player well into his 30’s to much term.

      Bos has a solid stable of prospects, let them play. I’d like to see Donato given a chance to play with Krejci & Debrusk.

      • Me as well Striker, Donato would compliment that line nicely. Krecji can thrive with speed on the wing.
        Bottom 6 needs to be filled. Riley Nash will get a big raise for decent, likely elsewhere as the B’s won’t want to give more than 1 year.
        Schaller or Wingels likely gets a bump and signed, again no more than a year.
        Think Kuraly can play 3C? I wouldn’t mind seeing him get a shot. Can skate and check, but not sure he can chip in enough offence.
        JFK could use 1 more year in Providence.

  7. ******Latest News***** John Tavares announced he’ll make his decision by the end of AUGUST!!

    • LOL. File that under “keep ’em guessing”

  8. I’d love to see the Pens add a Grabner or a Rieder, but I’m sure they’ll be outbid on guys in that range. Not sure who will fall into their price range.

    Hard to say this after the Niemi debacle, but…I’d kick tires on Kari Lehtonen. It seems like all of the other good veteran backups have landing spots lined up. If he were cheap, I’d like to send Jarry and DeSmith to the AHL and have a bit more depth.

  9. There might be a chance that JT goes to Toronto, clearly. I also think that if he does there is an absolute zero chance they trade Matthews, the kid is bonafide good. But I also think it is a bit premature to say he is on the level of JT. As a matter of fact, I think JT pulls Matthews up even further.

    If Malkin can play behind Crosby, this shouldn’t be an issue either. If it happens though the Leafs have to be able to address defense, as that will continue to be a glaring issue and one that JT clearly does not address. Ultimately I feel a lot of Stamkos hype all over again and think JT is gonna stay pat in New York.

  10. When Stamkos went through this soap opera last time, he cancelled the rest of his meetings with other teams and signed with Tampa. This year Travares met with all teams and went over the proposals. My take away is that Stamkos didn’t need to hear everyone out before he knew it had to be Tampa, with JT I don’t think that’s the case. Even though the safe money would be for him to resign, I don’t think that will happen unless he needs justification to signing on the Isle.

  11. It seems that JT is considering the actual playing experience and winning potential of which team he joins. It doesn’t seem to be entirely about the money. if that were the case he would have just pick Toronto right away. It’s not solely about the term because he could have just signed with the Islanders for 8 years.

    If the Sharks are at the front it would seem the playing experience is a key factor. The sharks have made the playoffs all but once in the last 10 years. If he wants a legitimate chance for a cup the SJ has to be the first choice.

    If playing in Toronto is or has been a personal goal for JT, then he could still realistically sign there. I think the difference is in playing time and role.

    In SJ he would become the star. In Toronto, it’s possible he could play back seat to Mathews. No one knows what he wants but that seems to be the things he’s focused on.

    for this to work for SJ i feel like they cant blow all the cash, and I hope they don’t resign Thornton unless he’s playing on the 3rd line. If they have the money to get Jumbo they have some money to go after a D-man. This is close to being one of the best teams SJ has dressed in a while. We will know soon enough.

  12. Help me understand, Tampa has 3 million in cap space left, kucherov and others to sign to long term deals and the media thinks it would great for Tampa to sign JT , no problem. But the leafs 24 million of space plus LTIR to work with that Toronto can’t sign JT , get a good reliable defensive defenseman and keep Nylander. They can worry about Maner and Matthews next summer. I personally don’t think toronto needs JT, they need a top two defenseman and another season under their belt to move into contention.

    • Ron Moore
      That comment is ridiculous.

      Better research the RFA process again. What are you going to offer Nylander 3yrs 3 million total and if he doesn’t take it too bad? Sit out if you like?

      Can someone say offer sheet?

      • If the Leafs get Tavares and someone pitches Nylander at an offer sheet of 6M/year, I’ll happily take the 1st, 2nd and third.
        If they don’t get tavares the leafs can just match. a bridge of 2 x 4M is absolutely fine for what Nylander has shown thus far

    • wrong spot!

  13. Winning makes any JT signing with The Leafs go away. Do you hear about Crosby and Malkin crying about who’s #1 and who’s #2? No.

    Capfriendly.com has The Leafs having just over 40 million in cap space after next season and 57 million the year after that. They have 24 million right now. They have the room. You get a chance to sign a guy like JT you take it. Just think how well AM will do not going up against the opposition’s top D pair every night? Why would he not like winning, getting his share of ice time and points to boot? The kid wants to win – he would not see JT as anything but a great thing…

    • Whoops – First sentence should say “Winning makes any issue with JT signing go away…” lol

      • Whoa there. It’s one thing to toss out CapFriendly’s projected $40,036,667 ca\p space for 2019-20 – but let’s look at the whole picture, That does not factor in what RFAs Leivo, Matthews, Marner, Kapanen and Carrick will get (they currently account for $4,910,500 and you know that that is going to rise substantially), not to mention UFAs Gardiner, Hainsey and McElhinney who currently account for $7,500,000. Nor do we know how much more this year’s RFA (Nylander) will be making, along with UFAs Plekanek, Moore, Bozak, Komarov and Van Riemsdyk.

        Yeah, I get it that some of these names won’t be back, but they still have to pay their replacements and if you’re thinking these will be elevated Marlies at minimal cost, you had better hope they are at least as good if not better than those they replace. They’ll likely go the trade route for some replacements or the UFA list but either way it’s going to cost them something. Bottom line is, they won’t have anywhere near $40 mil cap space. Same thing applies to the following year.

      • Exactly George.

        Was just typing something similar.

        Ask Edmonton what it’s like to have 35 million tied up in 4 guys.

      • George you know RFA means the club still owns their rights which in some cases is two contracts after their ELC. So when negotiating contracts the power is all in the teams hands no matter the talent. We’ve seen time and time again players holding out and getting no where.

        All this, they have to pay such and such x amount of dollars is BS. Half those players you mentioned are bargain bin players now and might be in the future. The problem is as fans we are looking into a building that is boarded up and we are guessing what’s inside when the people in there know exactly what’s up.

        PS Bigbadburins go eat a bag of dicks

      • Ron Moore
        That comment is ridiculous.

        Better research the RFA process again. What are you going to offer Nylander 3yrs 3 million total and if he doesn’t take it too bad? Sit out if you like?

        Can someone say offer sheet?

      • Don’t worry bcola is Ron Moore he hasn’t made a bright comment on here yet

      • Ron Moore when you say “Half those players you mentioned are bargain bin players now and might be in the future” you more or less make my point.

        I don’t really care one way or another if any are “bargain bin” – the point is, they eat into the cap system and, whether or not it’s them ultimately signed, the team still needs to dress 23 players.

        As Bill Veeck observed many years ago in baseball “It isn’t the high price of stars that is expensive; it’s the high price of mediocrity.” That also applies, unfortunately, to hockey/

  14. Wow

    I was in meetings all day until now and reading the posts here.

    Trade AM? AM will be peeved and want to move to the dessert? WTF?????

    AM is NOT Jack Eichel— if JT signs in Toronto, not saying that AM might be a little down in that he won’t be captain— but he will not be for very long. Adding JT would firm up a great 1-2 punch down the middle. Works with Pens.

    In addition, the pressure on AM is less with the addition of a JT

    I don’t think JT is coming to Toronto tho.

    If loyalty can’t hold him on the Island, I believe he is either TB or SJ bound.

    TB (IMO) has best chance of cup of the contending 6.

    Re: TB needs to make room — Stevie Y is the guy who can accomplish this

    RE– signing/extending AM, Wee Willy, MM

    Again, I believe that Toronto needs to move to get a top level D— Move Wee Willy, Gardner and 1st (’19) for Parayko

    Or .. Wee Willy, Gardner , maybe + for Risto and Rodrigez (Buff)

    I would not extend either MM or AM for 8

    Leafs have all the power and cards here— extend for 3; then 8– better move

    If AM is extended by 8 now– then when that contract expires on July 1st 2027— he is just over 2 months from being 30 and Leafs are then in a JT situation — he could walk for top dollars… or there is a risk of signing him to 8 at 30 and he declines rapidly (always a risk to consider)

    However, bridge for 3 then extend for 8— you’ve locked him for 14 years as a Leaf and finishing that contract at 32 — you can make a valued decision as to whether to re-up at that time.

    Obviously the 8 year contract extension 3 years from now will be more costly than an 8 year extension now— but my way locks him for 3 more years and mitigates risk down the road.

    The extra in 8 year contract three years from now will not be that huge a difference. Worth the hit.

    Similar plan can be done for MM

    I wouldn’t trade AM — really highly doubt that it has been considered at all. But if there is a Ciarelli type of move by the Leafs going to happen— Leafs would get a bucket load back– right now I couldn’t see Arz offering anything less than OEL + 2 roster Fwds + prospect and/or pick

    Re: Penguins possible move to acquire another forward– yes please. I would (if I’m GMJR) do the more aggressive move of trading Hags for space and working a trade for Skinner vs get in a bidding war for a UFA winger that may not have as good an upside (IMO)

    Exciting times ahead

    …. just waiting on announcement of the JT “Dear John [from John]” letters to 5 of the 6 contenders for his services.

    • AM is not taking a bridge deal. Forget about that.
      Buffalo is trading Ristolainen for that package.
      St Louis if they were to move Parayko would get a much better offer than that package from another team.
      Go back to the meeting Pengy. haha!

      • Buffalo is not i meant to say.

      • agree with everything but Buffalo is 100% moving risto for that deal.
        I love Risto but you are way over valuing him or undervaluing the leaf’s assets.

        Buffallo should not be moving Risto, the timing is not right
        Leafs should not be offering that much for Risto. Risto has the worst goal differential in the entire league over the last few years, I get it Buffalo is bad but Risto is the one who gets all the big minutes and PP time.

        Its a bad deal for both

  15. Anyone else notice there’s a couple of negative Nancy’s on the board today?

    • Yeppers Chrisms

    • As opposed to the usual positive patty’s?

      • Yuppie

  16. Just heard on radio…Doughty $88M … 8 years

    • Every report I’m reading is 8 years just shy of $11 mill per.

  17. Doughty was never moving nor OEL, now Karlsson? Why would he want to stay?

    Most stud players rarely move. The odd 1 has but incredibly rare.

    All those pipe dreams just keep going up in smoke.

    • Yes they do Striker, and it’s quite comical. Sit back, grab a beer and watch the sour grapes.