NHL Rumor Mill – July 18, 2018

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Will the Blackhawks make another notable move this summer? Will there be an end to the offer-sheet drought? Find out in today’s installment of your NHL rumor mill.

NO BIG MOVES COMING THIS SUMMER FOR THE BLACKHAWKS?

CHICAGO SUN-TIMES: Mark Lazerus reports help might not be coming to the Chicago Blackhawks this summer. Despite freeing up salary-cap room by shipping Marian Hossa’s contract last week to the Arizona Coyotes, general manager Stan Bowman “sounded as though he has come up empty-handed” in making bigger moves while speaking with the local press yesterday. He did leave the door open for a late-summer or early-fall deal once teams have evaluated their rosters during preseason play.

Chicago Blackhawks don’t want to part with young players such as Nick Schmaltz (Photo via NHL Images)

 Lazerus believes Bowman would love to land a winger for Patrick Kane’s line or a defense partner for Duncan Keith. However, he’s not going to part with promising young forwards Nick Schmaltz and Alex DeBrincat to do so. The recent return of Marcus Kruger could make center Artem Anisimov expendable but Lazerus doubts they’ll get much for him except more cap space, which they already have.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Rumors linked the Blackhawks to Carolina Hurricanes left wing Jeff Skinner and defenseman Justin Faulk, as well as Montreal Canadiens left wing Max Pacioretty. Lazerus ponders the possibility of the asking price for one of those players dropping later on in 2018-19.

It’s obvious Bowman doesn’t want to part with key pieces of his club’s future (Schmaltz or DeBrincat) to bring in a veteran forward (Skinner or Pacioretty) who could depart via free agency next summer or a defenseman such as Faulk, even though he’s signed through 2019-20. It would be best to wait and see if the asking prices drop for those guys, but Bowman cannot sacrifice his good young players for quick fixes.

The Blackhawks must restock their roster with young talent capable of eventually replacing their veteran core players down the road. If that means missing the playoffs or becoming a marginal postseason contender for the next two or three years, so be it. 

NHL OFFER SHEET DROUGHT LIKELY TO CONTINUE

THE ATHLETIC: Craig Custance reports the recent drought of NHL offer sheets isn’t likely to end this summer. In an informal straw poll of nine NHL general managers, none believed we’ll see an offer sheet this summer.  “I just don’t see where a team could get a player without the team matching,” said one Western Conference GM. 

 “In the NHL’s salary cap era, there have been eight offer sheets. All but one (Dustin Penner) was matched,” observed Custance. The last offer sheet came in 2013, when the Colorado Avalanche matched one signed by Ryan O’Reilly with the Calgary Flames.

Custance noted a list compiled by colleague Jonathan Willis of attractive offer sheet targets, such as “Calgary’s Noah Hanifin, Detroit’s Dylan Larkin, Winnipeg’s Nic Petan, Edmonton’s Darnell Nurse and Toronto’s William Nylander.” However, he believes we shouldn’t hold our breath expecting any of those players to sign one this summer. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Custance pointed out general managers don’t like them because they drive up salaries without actually landing the player, team owners aren’t comfortable going that route, and players often instruct their agents to get a deal done with their respective teams.

He noted there are several theories that could improve the odds (better compensation, targeting teams that don’t offer signing bonuses or young players looking for opportunities elsewhere). Even those, however, aren’t likely to considerable increase the number of offer sheets. 

 








62 Comments

  1. Darnell Nurse is a nobody and everyone talks about him like he’s Scott stevens. Amazing how average guys are talked up so much. He had 26 points playing on a team with McDavid. Never draft a defensemen in beginning of first round who is not natural scoring star…note: Luke Schenn 5th overall best example …fans love to throw money around, sure give Nurse and Trouba 8 million each, why not! It’s only money. Just give every guy who can’t score a huge raise

    • @Matt, I can’t knock your comments about overpaying players but Nurse is a somebody. A great skater, Hard hitter and tremendous teammate always willing to stick up for the other oilers. He deserves Lucic’s contract!

      • As a die hard oiler fan through thick and lots of thin Nurse in a few years will be worth a pretty penny lucic money you can take that to the bank

      • So Nurse is worth 8 million a year? I would never pay a defenseman that doesn’t score 40-50 points each year that much.

    • Bill Veeck of baseball said it best years ago (paraphrased) – it’s not the high price of the stars that will kill baseball … it’s the high cost of mediocrity”

      • FWIW, the Pittsburgh Pirates pay Ivan Nova (a mediocre starting pitcher) the exact same $8.7 million a year that the Pittsburgh Penguins pay Sidney Crosby, the best hockey player on Earth.

      • You really can’t make that comparison. The ceiling salary, average salary in the mlb are much higher than the NHL.

        8 million in MLB money = less than 1/4 the the top paid player. And only Double the average salary.

      • I think his point was, the high cost of mediocrity is prevalent in all sports – ceiling salaries aside, $8.7 million is STILL a lot of money to pay a MLB stiff.

    • Have to agree with the part about “not drafting a defenseman in the beginning of the 1st round who is not a natural scoring star.”
      Our Blues had 1 chance to obtain a franchise player in 2006 with the 1st overall pick. D Erik Johnson was such a disappointment. Traded him for Shattenkirk and neither were franchise players. Today, they’re both up in smoke as far as the organization is concerned.

      • RE: Steve
        The Blues past decade be a little different if they chose Toews or Backstrom. But Jordan Staal would of been their guy if passed on Erik Johnson

      • EK is a solid #1 Doman for Col, Shattenkirk an elite level offensive Dman.

        Drafting 17 & 18 year old kids isn’t an exact science. Most other major league players in other sports get drafted coming out of college at 21 or 22.

      • What would the Penguins have looked like with a Crosby, Malkin, Toews centre corps? Staal was fine but he wanted to play with his brother and Shero got decent value for him. If Toews stayed longer than Staal did what kind of team would they have had? What if they took Forsberg over Pouliot like most teams would have at the time? It’s July and there’s not much to talk about except potential trades and what if’s. In hindsight the Penguins would have been out of this world good if they drafted a little better, in hindsight. It’s fun to imagine how that would have went but the draft is a crap shoot. Just ask anyone who believed in Griffin Reinhart.

      • On the flip side deee what if the pens had passed on letang Murray guentzel rust maatta etc. pens have done quite alright for themselves in the draft

      • blues gave up on ej a bit too early….he would not be #1 dman on some teams but the avs missed him dearly in playoffs vs preds

      • If a d man isn’t a junior scoring star or putting up great numbers I wouldn’t draft him in top 10 of draft.

    • I agree, Nurse has shown nothing to merit comparison to upper echelon defencemen. He is excellent at the facewash and flapping his gums however.
      Its quite possible thatblike Scenn the Soilers have unreasonable expectations that he cant and never will meet.

      • “The Blues past decade be a little different if they chose Toews or Backstrom. But Jordan Staal would of been their guy if passed on Erik Johnson”

        Correct, although 20-20 hindsight is big on boards like this. Try reading the excellent book “Future Greats And Heartbreaks” that followed the draft that year. Before the draft, Staal was the near unanimous choice as top forward. He blew everyone away at the combines. Some called him the best athlete they’d ever seen. Most thought that Toews’s offensive upside was very limited.

      • 6 goals, 26 points, +15 all at ES playing over 22 mins a night in your year 22 season is pretty impressive.

        Chris Pronger type Dman in the making. Not quite as unpredictable, Pronger could snap but 20 years from now he will look very similar to Pronger comparing their carriers.

        Pronger’ s 1st 3 NHL seasons.

        93-94. 5 goals, 25 assists 30 points In 82 games.
        94-95. 5G, 9A, 14Pts in 43 games.
        95-96. 7G, 19A, 25pts in 78 games.

        Nurses.

        15-16. 3G, 7A, 10pts in 69 games.
        16-17. 5G, 6A, 11pts in 43 games.
        17-18. 6G, 20A, 26 puts in 82 games.

        Nor has Nurse had any where near the opportunity yet that Pronger received stepping straight into the NHL after being selected 2nd overall in 93.

        The similarity in these 2 Dmans games is certainly obvious to me. The only difference is Nurse is following a more standard development path so will take him longer to achieve the same results.

        I assume Nurse will see decent 2nd line PP minutes soon enough. Still blocked out my Klefbom, Larson, Sekera for TOI/GP but he should finish the year 3/4 this season & again will be a 1s paring Dman by 26 possibly sooner if Klefbom or Sekera are moved. If not getting very similar ice time to both in 2019-20.

    • Matt, I thought the first job of a D-man was to defend. Hence the name. Your example of what Nurse isn’t was Scott Stevens. He wasn’t a “natural scorer” but an extremely valuable player. How about Pronger or Chara? They got some points but also are not “natural scorers” would you pick one of them early in the first round?
      Keeping the puck out of your own net is just as important as putting it in the other teams. Just ask the Islanders which is why top 4 D are in such high demand.
      Do agree it is tough to tell who will develop into one when they are 18 as compared to scoring forwards.
      Nurse won’t get Trouba money, not yet anyway as he has less leverage than Trouba. My guess is a bridge deal, then he will get paid. Nurse will be a top 2 D man in Edmonton for years.

      • You can get great defensive d men in later rounds, the first round of draft is where most of scoring talent in league comes from. Why waste a top 5 pick on any player who can’t score? It’s throwing away the pick…if a guy can’t score in junior it’s likely he won’t score at higher levels.

      • The Islanders draftedDennis Potvin first overall he scored over point per game, hit, fought, was leaders and great in D zone.

    • Darnell Nurse looks to be a very good defensemen and his scoring is virtually all 5 on 5, which actually places his scoring rates pretty high for a defender playing on a team that struggled to keep up offensively last year.

      Scoring isn’t his appeal, but defensive D who are actually good defensively and don’t torpedo their teams ability to score while on the ice, are valuable. If Darnell Nurse turns into a Josh Manson type, he will get paid, but still will be a bargain. Basically he would be a guy who is a high end #1 defender in all regards except the PP, which tends to shave Millions off his cap hit. If Nurse turns out this way, he isn’t a nobody. Right now I think most would assume Nurse would get less than Trouba if you had to extend both today, but Nurse was actually better than Trouba last year. He played tougher minutes, actually suppressed shots better, and his scoring rates at 5 on 5 were better. Also, he is younger. Nurse’s value is PP points and a so called lack of offensive upside will probably stop him from ever getting overpaid.

      It’s too early to tell if Nurse is exactly that type of player yet, but Oilers fans have a right to be excited about having him.

      • From what I saw of Nurse his defensive coverage was definitely below average, and often led to great opposition chances and goals. Sure, he is physical, can skate and sticks up for his teammates, just not sure he’ll ever make it past the 2nd pairing…

    • It hard to really judge how good a Dman is only 3 season in to his career while playing on a team that is absolutely structured incorrectly. Nurse does appear to be one of those parts that is correct. Payng him 5 million would be what i would expect…but Oilers are cap strapped and are likely to sign him for less on a short term. “bridge deal”

    • Hi Matt

      You are correct that Nurse is not SN

      That said… I am a Nurse fan — have been watching his development since he was in his late teens. Was a fan of his dad (and I’ve got Argo season tickets BTW!!!)So — I’m jaded and unfortunately I can’t agree with you on viewing him as mediocre.

      As I said, I concur that he is no Scott Neidermeyer— not by a stretch. However, I see his stature equally as far from Scott N as he is from Mediocrity

      He is a tough defender, skates very well, and is very good at moving the puck.

      He is in no way a bottom pairing guy IMO

      I truly see him as a strong middle pairing D Man with the chance/potential (chance, not definite, but chance) of possibly being a top pairing guy in a couple of years. Time will tell.

      I grew up in T.O. and if you have followed any of my posts, you will know that I’m a Pens and Leafs fan— would love to have Nurse on either of those teams.

      IMO– if Leafs had him right now— he slots immediately as their 3rd best DMan— yes I’m jaded/biased— but that is the way I see him

      IMO he will have a very good year this year.

      Do I hear a telephone call that sounds something like “hello Peter, it’s Jim… I’ve got Hags and JJ for you if you give me Nurse”…. LOL 🙂

    • This dude is clearly a troll. Or simply has no knowledge of the game.

      • So you want to give Nurse 7 million or more a season ? Would that be smart? Is he Brent Seabrook?

    • Trouba has played 5 seasons and had 30 points once and he wants 7 million or more lol

      • no…5 mill is where his skill set puts him at.

  2. Only offer sheet I can see in future will be Lou and the Islanders stalking Toronto. Leafs will match but it will cripple them with the cap. Won’t be Nylander probably Mathews or Marner.

    • Hi Obe

      Might have an offer sheet on WW— IMO not a chance on MM or AM— they will be signed to extension before an offer sheet can be made (prior to 1/7/19). Leafs could not afford to be vulnerable to offer sheet for either MM or AM– they’d match but would in effect pay more than they would have likely paid in negotiation.

      If AM get’s past 1/7/18— Arz will offer the farm (in fact EVERY farm in the dessert LOL). If it got past 1/7/18– I would not be surprised at Arz offering him 7 * $15M ($105M)— Leafs not opposed to that total— but could likely get him for 8 years at that total — just over $13m/per

    • well by that theory toronto can give offer sheet to a boston player

  3. Posted this on the wrong thread…

    I thought of one possible trade scenario where the Jackets could trade him without taking too big of a step back in the standings…

    Panarin to CAR for Skinner and a pick with CAR then flipping him to SJ, NJ, NYI or NYR.

    Unless they can get back a young impact top 6 player in the deal, the Jackets should rebuild. Getting Skinner would allow them to continue on their current course.

    • (copying my response from the other thread)

      I’ll agree with the first part – Skinner+ for Panarin. However, if that were done, I don’t see any reason for the Hurricanes to flip him to another team. He would be way too useful in CAR. Maybe they’d flip him at the trade deadline, if yet another season goes off the rails, but I don’t see any reason not to keep Panarin in CAR until then.

      • Panarin has made clear he wants to play in a major market on one of the coasts, so he’d be a one and done in CAR.

        But, they can likely extract a better prospect for Panarin than they can for Skinner whereas the Jackets (if they don’t want to rebuild) are unlikely to get a better young plug and play forward than Skinner, so it makes sense for both teams.

        Any of the teams I mentioned (except for NYR if they stay on course with their rebuild) should want Panarin. NYI and SJ especially.

  4. Ha-ha!

    Nurse is 23 years old with 197 NHL regular season games under his belt. He’s years from being fully developed, by the time he’s 26 Nurse will be a #2 Dman in the NHL. He will be a 1st paring Dman but like most will need 5 to 6 years or in or around 400 regular season games before we can see what he will be when fully developed.

    Like Trouba his path to top pairing minutes & quality PP time is blocked but he will get it eventually.

    You’re off to a flying start this morning Matt.

    Yes Schenn never became the player he was thought to be when drafted but he has played over 700 NHL games & is still ticking as a 6/7 NHL Dman. There is no harder position to fill in the NHL than top end Dman.

    Not every player just steps into the NHL & shows who they will be when fully developed. Those that do are in the minority & don’t just need exceptional skills but opportunity. Most teams aren’t in a position to just make a player a 1st or 2 line forward or for Dman even provide an NHL roster spot.

    Most follow a very similar development path. 3 to 4 years for normal size forwards in or around 200 games Dman & monster forwards 5 to 6 years or in or around 400. 80% of the time. once they actually get to the NHL & for many Dman that’s 2 to 3 years after they get drafted. The higher your drafted the faster that happens. The other 20% either arrive much faster or like they flame out.

    • Striker what are your thoughts on D development. Your 400 game analysis is historically accurate, but do you think it’s because it takes longer for D to develop or it takes longer for us to be able to evaluate them based on usage?

      Forwards have typically have a more straight forward development. If they are scorers they typically don’t make a team unless they are going to get top 9 minutes and PP time right out of the gate. They get sheltered a little, but if they perform, you can’t help the fact that the other team starts to focus on them, and within a short time frame we get to find out pretty much what they are going to be.

      Defense almost always enter the league as bottom pairing, getting less minutes. They show well there, move to 2nd pairing, still don’t face the very top end competition, do well, then eventually get more and more responsibility. So I think there are more scenarios where D have developed all the necessary skills to be higher end, but we don’t really get to evaluate it because until they actually get the minutes, we can’t see how they respond to high end competition.

      This could be the reason we are seeing clusters of young D in similar organizations. It’s not just that they are better at evaluating them early, but they are more confident in their evaluations so they get to move up in minutes earlier, and we as fans can see what it is their skills are really capable of a lot earlier in their career.

      Columbus was using Jones and Werenski as their top pairing before they had a combined 400 games, Nashville historically has let guys earn and increase their ice time faster than the norm, making it easier to evaluate guys much earlier than you can with guys in other organizations.

      The reason this is interesting, to me anyway, is we are seeing a lot more contributions high up in line ups from D very early in their careers than we used to, and some of the best contracts on the blueline are guys who signed good long term deals right out of entry level where teams could really bank on exactly what they were capable of, long before they played their 400th game.

      • Getting players on the roster on their ELC’s for many teams since the creation of the cap has the game getting younger getting players to the NHL sooner than prior to it’s creation & implementation.

        There are numerous other factors in play as well. The move to a speed, transition puck possession game, the significant increase in the talent coming in from all over the world but primarily the US has younger players primarily forwards but the odd Dman getting to the NHL sooner as well but still the #’s are really holding but declining nominally but currently still inconsequential. Expansion may have a short term impact as well.

        The overall quality of every team has improved significantly in the last decade. These US studs being developed are just stepping into the NHL changing the fortunes of teams very quickly.

      • Yes, all of that is true, but what are your thoughts on the why.

        I know defensemen taking longer to develop is going to be a mixture of the position being developmentally different and it being harder to earn that trust, but which do you think it is more of?

        Are the development curves slowed more by defenders always being held back, so they can’t really show what they are? Or is it mostly because the position is harder to develop?

        I know it’s a chicken egg question, and impossible to fully evaluate. Even as we see more and more defensemen buck against that 400 game time frame, it will likely be hard to argue that it isn’t because of how the game has changed, but in an era of change I think it’s an interesting question.

        In the salary cap era, it’s a place where teams can create real value if they are getting more out of defensemen on ELC’s and signing good 2nd contracts, especially if they are getting a better feel for what a defensemen really is earlier in their development cycle.

      • Sorry I thought I answered. Opportunity, age, time to learn to read the coverage assignments properly, gap control, etc. Skills are God given to a significant extent but most defensive responsibilities are learned & learned for most over a very long period of time.

        Opportunity is huge. Most teams don’t have space to just drop an 18 to 21 year old Dman into the fastest highest level of hockey in the world.

        Most aren’t physically mature enough at 18 to 21.

        Multitude of reasons. Why is subjective & really isn’t as important as it just is.

        Learning to be defensively sound even as a forward in the NHL is really a learned skill.

        My favourite tournament of the year is the WJC’s. Those kids show incredible skills but also make significant mistakes as few have spent any time learning to be defensively responsible. NHL coaches haven’t turned them into autobots yet. Some of the things they do & try would get most benched in the NHL & sent to the minors.

        Babcock summed it up perfectly at the WC of Hockey. He said something along the lines of.

        “I have really enjoyed watching team NA play. Incredible skill & talent. I just like winning more.”

      • I don’t know which is more Danny, the development is definitely longer because the reads they have to make are tougher both in D zone coverage, first pass out of the zone, when to join the rush, when to stand them up and when to back off. With forwards, especially wingers, it is pretty cut and dried. C’s have more responsibility in D zone coverage as a rule.
        It takes longer to win the coaches trust because they know the learning curve is longer, and one thing you don’t mention is that their mistakes end up in the back of the net more often than a forwards mistakes, so until they prove consistently they don’t get the added responsibility. And today most coaches are risk averse, but there seems to be some change out there. Your examples plus what Boston has done with McAvoy and Carlo recently.

    • With you Striker

      Late to the game today and reading posts/responding in order top to bottom— I’ve posted a response w.r.t. Nurse above

      …. I like him and have for a bit now

    • Right on the mark with this analysis Nurse will continue to develop into a strong NHL D-Man. Edmonton needs his focus on keeping the puck out of the zone and let those weapons in the forward ranks put the puck in the net. If Edmonton improves 10% on PP and PK they are a playoff team again.

    • You’re the guy who said Trouba is worth 8 million a season, not in my eyes unless he’s putting up 45 points a year and great in own zone

    • So if Dahlin drafted number 1 overall gets 25 points a year will that be worth being top pick in draft? Not for me, you can easily get solid d men in later rounds. Do some research about where scoring comes from, 1-2 rounds. Those two rounds you draft talent scoring ability , draft character role players later

    • Trouba played 5 seasons only once did he get 30 points, he wants 7-8 million for what? He was never a scorin star at any level

  5. Kruger is not even close to Anisimov offesnively or as a player. However, if they can move him for Faulk I would pull that trigger.

    Finding someone to play with Kane should not be too difficult. He is top 7 maybe top 5 in the league on his own.

    I heard a rumour that Crawford’s head problems stemmed from an off ice fight

    • Unless Chicago adds a #2 LW, I see Schmaltz playing LW with Anisimov at C & Kane at RW.

      I have Toews, Anisimov, Kampf & Kruger at C. Schmaltz moves back to C as soon as something gives & he will take a ton of draws just like numerous other teams do. Pavelski playing RW with Thornton as an example. Both take draws depending upon which side of the ice or which zone the draw is taking place.

  6. Why would a team offer sheet Nic Petan, who’ll be in a dog fight to get a top 6 spot in Winnipeg. He is 5’9″ skilled 23yr old Center, he was a point per game guy in the Ahl 52pts in 52 games.
    He deserves an opportunity but you could trade for him probably a third round pick, why do an offer sheet?
    Someone could offer Nurse $7m per season, knowing full well the Oilers will match, forcing the Oilers to shed some salary as per capfriendly they have just under $5m in space. The Oilers would get a 1st, 2nd and third round pick, if they didn’t match. They would match.

    • I agree no offer sheet there . The Jets have to many skilled forwards and not enough room. Petan could be a trade target. He has to clear waivers as well so could get him that way

    • 7 mil per season for how many years.

    • Never mind the top 6 there is barely a roster spot available for Petan baring a trade in Winnipeg. He does have to clear waivers so they will have to create a spot for him, trade him or he will be lost on waivers.

      Connor, Scheifele, Wheeler.
      Ehler, Little, Laine.
      Perreault, Lowry, Roslovic.
      Tanev, Petan, Copp.
      Spare. Dano.

      Perhaps Copp plays C & Petan the wing. Petan is really suited to a 4th line role but He would see 2nd line PP time if he stays.

      • Sorry should read Petan isn’t really suited to a 4th line role.

    • Hi Caper,

      Re: Petan offer sheet— here is where someone can be sneaky … not sure Winn could realistically be making an offer to him North of $1.2M. As pointed out— no room for him in top 6– and sliding him to 4th line a waste— it’s the third line if on Winn—

      If Winn not willing to offer him > $1.2M— another team can offer him up to $1.33 and owe absolutely nothing in compensation— some team may sneak in there and do that… of course Petan would have to accept that offer to cause a decision point (match, let him walk) from Winn

      If the offer were $1.34 – $2.0— comp is 3rd rounder— I believe he is worth a third. So interested GMs could offer a 3rd for him (mentioning that they are considering an offer sheet) and if Chevy balks– they have met their obligation by informing Chevy and get Petan for nothing but $’s ($1.33M or less)

  7. Teams stay away from offer sheets for a couple of reasons …. 1. Owners don’t like it much because they have to shed more cash for a player that wouldn’t have been paid as much
    2. GM’s get mad at other GM’s and then when it is time to trade players they don’t ans the phone….
    3. Revenge most are afraid that when one day you have a player that’s RFA they might come back and do the same thing to you and put you in a hole ….
    4. Trading your future on one player with compensation of 1st round picks is never the ans unless you are one of the best teams in the league …

    Maybe the Last point should of been told to the raptors in the NBA worst trade of their franchise happened earlier today…

  8. Re: offer sheets in general— Ive a question to all

    When they quote the rarity of it, I’m assuming it is for the RFAs that are at the NHL level.

    Unless I’m not looking at things correctly, it appears that there are AHL RFAs that don’t get signed by a current team and that are scooped by another team — is that technically an offer sheet under the CBA or are minor league contracts exempt from offer sheet/compensation clauses?

    Just wondering?

  9. Panarin to LA for Kempe, Brown plus a top prospect not name Vilardi(spelling?) along with a 1st or 2 2nds

    that get it done?

    • Personally, I think no. Brown had a great bounce back year, but still hard to get anyone excited about taking that salary for the remaining term. Given that Columbus is overpaying a guy that is filling that pesky forward role, no way they should be interested in adding another.

      Kempe is an interesting prospect, but not likely considered high tier by Columbus, and the 1st is still likely a playoff 1st so value isn’t amazing.

      The player, prospect, pick structure is pretty much how everyone pitches trades, but unless at least one of those pieces is worth something, it would be better off just trading two higher value pieces.

    • Any trade for Panarin to LA will start with Toffoli or Pearson. Toffoli and a pick might get it done. With Pearson you would need to add some more. Columbus is not rebuilding so a good young NHL regular or two will need to be in any deal. The Kings do however make the most sense for Panarin.

  10. I don’t understand why Stan would lose a prospect like hinastroza if he isn’t going to do anything this summer.
    We could have waited to put Hossa on LTIR and kept hinastroza.

  11. Petan can skate . I do not remember many Juniors but him with Portland in the playoffs against Kelowna he was all over the ice and end to end in just a couple of seconds. Has got to be a fit somewhere in this league

  12. Eric Johnson was a consesus #1 pick his draft year. The only mistake stl made was to have the first overall pick.