NHL Rumor Mill – November 21, 2018

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SENATORS POTENTIAL TRADE CANDIDATES

THE ATHLETIC: Chris Stevenson recently looked at which Ottawa Senators could hit the trade block this season. He considers defenseman Chris Wideman “most likely to go”. He also thinks Cody Ceci could be gone at the trade deadline as his salary-arbitration hearing last summer was said to be “particularly acidic.” Center Tom Pyatt could also be shopped.

Stevenson considers forwards Mikkel Boedker, Magnus Paajarvi, and Mac McCormick “dependable but expendable”. He also noted the Senators recently attempted to move forward Zack Smith and they could try again.

While Matt Duchene is mentioned as a potential trade candidate, the Ottawa Senators are trying to re-sign him. (Photo via NHL Images)

Pending unrestricted free agents Mark Stone, Matt Duchene, and Ryan Dzingel could also hit the block if unsigned before the trade deadline. Stevenson guesses the Senators could put the emphasis on re-signing Stone.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: If the latest report from TSN is anything to go by, Duchene could be staying put. Bob McKenzie yesterday said it appears talks between the two sides are progressing, though they still have work to do to get it done. He speculates it could be an eight-year extension worth between $8-$9 million per season.

If they get Duchene re-signed soon, they will definitely put their focus in January on keeping Stone in the fold. They could also put try to retain Dzingel.

As for Ceci, he’ll become an RFA with arbitration rights again next summer. If the relationship between the two sides has deteriorated, they could peddle him at the NHL Draft in June. 

POTENTIAL RED WINGS TRADE CANDIDATES

THE ATHLETIC: Max Bultman considers forward Gustav Nyquist as the Detroit Red Wings’ most likely trade option this season. He’s an unrestricted free agent in July and it makes sense for the Wings to try to get something in return for him. Bultman thinks he could be appealing to most playoff contenders but cautions the Wings are unlikely to get a significant return.

He also considered pending UFAs Jimmy Howard and Nick Jensen as possible trade options. Forwards Anthony Mantha and Andreas Athanasiou fall under the “not likely but not impossible” category.

Craig Custance doesn’t expect the Red Wings to move veteran defenseman Niklas Kronwall, who’s slated to become a UFA next summer. The long-time Wing said he hasn’t thought about a trade. Custance notes Kronwall still has some no-trade protection in which the Wings would request a 10-team trade list from him but a source said Wings management haven’t asked for that list.

Given this is probably the oft-injured Kronwall’s final NHL campaign, he won’t fetch much of a return. “There’s no reason for them to trade him,” said an NHL source. “I think that would have to be something he’d have to want and I can’t see that as a scenario. He’s valuable for them.”

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Unless Kronwall asks for a trade, I don’t see the Wings moving him. He’ll finish his career as a Red Wing and retire. I concur with Bultman that Nyquist is the Wings’ most likely trade candidate this season. It also sounds as though the Wings and Howard could be interested in working out a short-term contract so he’s probably no longer a trade possibility this season. 

COULD SCHMALTZ BECOME A BLACKHAWKS’ TRADE CHIP?

CHICAGO TRIBUNE: Assuming the Blackhawks become sellers this season, Jimmy Greenfield suggests center Nick Schmaltz could become an intriguing trade possibility. Schmaltz is a restricted free agent next summer and has just two goals in 20 games this season after potting 21 as a sophomore in 2017-18. Blackhawks general manager Stan Bowman has some cap space to work with next season but Greenfield believes he’s not in a position to give Schmaltz a big raise unless he deserves one.

In a subsequent Q&A with his readers. Greenfield was asked about Schmaltz’s trade status. He feels Bowman will have to think long and hard about trading Schmaltz or letting him depart as a free agent. While the Blackhawks are thin at forward and don’t have any dynamic prospects ready for the NHL, Greenfield suggests this is starting to feel similar to when they traded Ryan Hartman at last season’s trade deadline. ” If the Hawks are out of the playoff picture Schmaltz could be their most valuable trade chip.”

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Cap Friendly indicates Schmaltz is in the final season of his entry-level contract so the only way he departs as a free agent is if the Blackhawks opt not to tender a qualifying offer. That’s not going to happen. The Hawks could trade Schmaltz but I think Bowman will hang onto him and sign him to an affordable short-term bridge deal if his current offensive struggles persist. 

POSSIBLE DEVILS TRADE CANDIDATES AND TARGETS

THE ATHLETIC: Corey Masisak examines two options for the New Jersey Devils if they’re in playoff contention or fall out of the postseason chase. Under the first option, Marcus Johansson, Mirco Mueller, Stefan Noesen, John Quenneville, Michael McLeod, and future draft picks could be used as bait to bolster their roster for the playoffs. Under the second option, Johansson and Ben Lovejoy could be shopped. Pending UFA goaltender Keith Kinkaid could also be a fascinating trade asset, though the Devils might wish to keep him.

Masisak also looked at potential trade targets for the Devils. Those with term still on their contracts could include Chicago’s Brandon Saad, Columbus’ Alexander Wennberg, Edmonton’s Jesse Puljujarvi, Los Angeles’ Tyler Toffoli, Jake Muzzin, and Alec Martinez,  Detroit’s Andreas Athanasiou, Minnesota’s Charlie Coyle, Arizona’s Alex Goligoski, Anaheim’s Brandon Montour and Dallas’ Julius Honka.

Pending UFA targets could include Anaheim’s Jakob Silfverberg, Philadelphia’s Wayne Simmonds, the New York Rangers’ Kevin Hayes, Detroit’s Gustav Nyquist, and Ottawa’s Matt Duchene. He also suggests trying to bring back Adam Henrique from the Ducks.

NJ.COM: Abbey Mastracco expects the Devils will stay the course for now. While the Devils have all their picks in the first three rounds of the next three drafts (except for their third-rounder in 2019), they’re valuable to their efforts to build from within. They also lack depth in NHL-ready prospects that would net a big return. Still, she doesn’t rule out that they could be looking for an upgrade.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Devils raised hopes by reaching the playoffs in 2017-18 but they’re currently mired in a lengthy slump that threatens to derail their postseason chances this season. GM Ray Shero was able to turn Adam Larsson into Taylor Hall, so maybe he can pull off another steal.

 







34 Comments

  1. Shero does have magic trading fingers. Beware his fa signings though.

  2. I know Kinkaid’s family they live in Farmingville Long Island. They have season tickets to the Isles for many years Keith grew up as a big Isles fan it has been said if he hits f/a the Isles are his choice if they give him a fair deal. I hope they do good kid and family.

    • Kinkaid has outplayed Schnieder since January. If anything CS will be traded and Kinkaid will be re-signed as our starting goalie in NJ going forward

      I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Schneider for Jake Allen trade, two goalies who really need a change of scenery

  3. Not to offend any Sens fans here, I know Duchene has been red hot as of late but id have to say with his vocal past and antics this would be the best time to trade him, his stock will never be higher

    Iam not sure you recoup the assets that it took to get him in but there could be a solid deal out there that may be more suited for the Brady Tkachuk era instead.
    Sens have some really good pieces…Tkachuk Batherson Logan Brown Chaplik Forementon Chabot lajoie and goalie prospect Gustavson

    I understand #1 centers are hard to come by, but Duchene could bring in a few pieces & something better long term with that core.
    I just dont see his stock to be any higher than right now, if there were any doubts.

    Weird to say this but I think the Leafs might take a flyer on Kronwall at the trade deadline for a cup run he would be way better than the duo of Ozhaginov and Marincin Or Zaitsev…in playoff experience alone and safe smart player for a series of 16 games why not if they dont pick up something else VIA Nylander trade.

    Cheers

  4. Im gonna agree with you on Duchene. And to an extent maybe on Stone and Dzingle as well. Trade all three at deadline for a boatload of pics and prospects…then maybe JUST MAYBE Scrooge would entertain the thought of keeping tkachuk and others out of their ELC rather than shopping them. Maybe with our saved money we take a run at Bobrovsky. With Duch/Stone probably getting north of 8m and Dzingle high 5/6 we’ll be screwed in three years.

    • The problem with dealing Duchene, Stone and Dzingel is, how do they get to the cap floor of $60 mil next year? You could say,bring in money hits via that trade route, but then, what’s the point?

      I agree that, if Duchene and Stone are looking for $8 mil and 8 year deals then they should go at the deadline. Otherwise, you have two guys reaching their mid to late 30s just when all these kids are coming up for big deals. If they’d each agree to $8 mil over 5 year deals then fine, sign them. But not at 8 years. That’s just a future hamstring a la Chicago. Dzingel I’d also keep if he’s willing to sign for 5 – but no longer. He’s 26 and his game is built on speed. How much of that will he have when he reaches 32 to 34?

      • George, completely agree with you. 5 year deals are ideal, especially in the NHL where we have guaranteed contracts. Unfortunately, the market dictates otherwise, Duchene and Stone know they will get those deals in the UFA.
        Unless this is addressed by the next CBA, I don’t see how that trend changes

      • Unless, Taz, more and more teams see the folly of 8 year (and longer) deals. They might well intend to go UFA – regardless of whether or not they are dealt at the trade deadline – but how many teams will be lining up to offer them those long-term contracts? Could – and probably will – happen because there’s no cure for stupidity.

  5. @ Dark G

    Iam not sure what is in Bobrovskys head on where he would like to play but one team that I think he should really entertain and is in dire need and would be a force if they got him would be the Canucks …they have an amazing young core and the big missing piece for them is in Net.
    Its safe to say that the Sens will go with Gustavsson for the future for sure.

    • Iam absolutely amazed that Ilya Samsonov name has not been involved in any trade rumors, I have been pumping this guys tires for the past 6 months as Holtby has that locked down and there are teams i.e Oilers Islanders Sabres Panthers Wings Canucks who need a new era in net and if there is any 1 Goalie outside the NHL you want to trade for its this guy !

      The carousel of the guys on the way out is getting real old ..i.e Smith Elliott Mrazek Darling Hutton Lehner Niemi Budaij

      ..why a team has not put in a serious bid for this guy to be a future #1 is a missed opportunity.

      As I’ve said in past posts the Oilers should be knocking down the door for this guy,
      ( Samsonov )

      REPRISE :

      Oilers should have just cleaned house and let Chirelli go at the same time as Mcllelan He didnt have the the players on that roster and the past trades are no where exceptable and Chirellis comments in his post firing presser, that he thinks this present team has the talent to win a cup this year was eye opening to where he and reality meet.
      NO CHANCE IN HELL, wild card if your lucky!
      After RNH Driasitil McDavid every other player is a dime a dozen,not impact players in depth roles and very little secondary scoring in my opinion anyways.

      • Washington won’t deal the kid.
        He’s the best goalie prospect other than Carter Hart outside the NHL.
        Not impossible though.

    • I dont see Bobvrosky signing in Vancouver. Some decent young forwards yes (Boeser, Horvat and Pettersson) but their defence is a trainwreck. Tanev, Hutton, Stecher and Micheal Del Saster are far below average.
      I would think Bob would be looking for decent dollars and term with a “win now” franchise as opposed to one in the middle of a rebuild.

      • @ Ron Jull

        The jackets D has been a revolving merry go round up until last year of youth and turnover …Bobrovsky has taken that team to 3 playoff runs in 5 years I dont think that Vancouvers D is that bad and in regards to win now ..If Bobs lands in Vancouver you can expidite the WIN NOW mode into the very near future with those unreal young guys …they need a goalie like Bobs or they will be in dire straights for a long time with a shoty D to where as the Goalie can save them most nights and allows the offense to play more loose and in the O zone better not having to worry about being scored on 4 – 6 times a game !
        I think with Bobs on the Canucks they go from a ho hum to to a legit watch out scenario a la Patrick Roy Rookie year !

        Its amazing what an unreal Goalie can allow the forward to do when they dont have to worry about out scoring teams to win 6 – 5 to win every game.

      • Ron the flyers should be all over bob, he might be able to make up for their brutal defense

  6. You also need to list Glendenning for Detroit. He is a good 4th line defensive center who can win faceoffs. A role player with value on the defensive power play. He is unrestricted and could bring a 3rd or 4th round pick. Nyquist will not be resigned so he will probably agree to a trade if he likes the destination. With Jensen going too it opens opportunities for our youth.

  7. @DarkG I respect a Sen’s fan opinion on this but I disagree.
    The sens have enough young pieces to be competitive right now and be contending for playoffs in the next 2-3 years. There is no guy in the system who projects to be a 1C, with all due respect to Colin white and Batherson.
    Why would you trade a #1C unless there is a #1C coming back and why would the other team do this deal?

    Duchene has been on fire after the controversy, is that due to his pride and will or is it due to the contract negotiation? We don’t know, all we know is that he can achieve the numbers he’s putting up – Sens fans need some optimism. Its an exciting team

    • I agree, the Sens are surprisingly trending upwards, I would try and resign all three of those guys and hope Gustavsson (sp) develops into a #1 … the pieces are in place, have to give credit to Dorian who I always rag on. Very bright future.

    • Not to be the Debbie downer in the room, but I have read a lot of the Sens fans posts here and you guys are ragging on why the Sens gave Bobby Ryan the contract they did and what you’ve all said ( Sens fans ) is that its
      20 / 20 hine site and ” who knew” what would happen!…BUT …
      I see a lot of history repeating itself here with Duchene …hope after he is finished playing for big money in a contract year he doesn’t go missing over the next season and a half and your stuck holding your willy again!

      …Id still lean on trading him regardless once bitten twice shy !

      For age purposes and a reasonable deal ..id inquire with the Devils for Pavel Zacha for Duchene as a starting point.
      Age wise and cap hit he could be a better fit long term!

      • Kal, two wrongs don’t make a right. If they gave Bobby Ryan that contract doesn’t mean that they should trade Duchene. I understand that you said starting point, but you don’t trade a 1C for a suspect prospect like Zacha being the center piece coming back

        The fact that you are comparing Ryan & Duchene plus the entire scenario of these signings really shows that you are just blurting out whatever you, in your mind conceive to be reality, for this particular day. I’m sorry about being harsh but it’s just a more direct way of talking as compared to using terms like ‘holing you willy’

        I challenge you:
        1. To name one team that has completed a rebuild while missing a #1C
        2. To name who the #1C in Ottawa will be if Duchene is traded.

      • Kal El: Stone and Duchene are putting up much better numbers than Ryan was when he signed the extension. Ryan was already a couple years removed from his best seasons in Anaheim. He will never live up to that contract, but has actually played fairly well for the most part this year. If he can avoid getting another hand injury, I can live with his current production.

      • Kal El, Duchene may have learned a game-changing lesson with the Uber video – keep all the chatter in the room. We live in a Big Brother world now and Duchene and his team-mates found that out the hard way.
        I’d be hanging on to him – his best is yet to come in Ottawa.

    • You can’t field a team with all rookies. The Sens have tons of cap space over the next few years and signing Duchene and Stone should be the priority. They will be great mentors for the kids and top line C/wingers are hard to come by. In addition, this would go a long way to reconciling some of the issues between Melnyk and the fans.

      I’m hopeful they can keep Dzingel as well, but he is the casualty if they can only afford Stone and Duchene. If the Sens are in playoff contention at the deadline, I’d be fine with them keeping an unsigned Dzingel if they had already resigned Stone and Duchene.

      At this point, they need to shore up their defense long term and have a viable option to replace Anderson in a year or two. Gustavsson could be the guy, but he is far from a guaranteed #1 goalie.

      • While they DO need to make sire they have a viable option to Anderson in 2 years as the # 1 goalie, they also absolutely need a better back-up NOW. McKenna isn’t the answer, and Condon appears to have shot his bolt as did Hammond before him. They must get a better back-up, and I think it was yesterday that someone thought they’sd be all over Montoya if Edmonton made him available. Not sure he’d be THE best option, but he’s better than McKenna and Condon.

      • Agreed, George. An Anderson injury right now would likely lead to a long losing streak based on what I’ve seen from McKenna and Condon. Anderson wasn’t good against Florida, but has been solid otherwise over the last several games. My concern is overworking him now and having him run out of gas in the second half.

  8. Duchesne at 8-9 million? Duchess is a little bit faster than Tyler Bozak but no team that has him as number one center will make the playoffs let alone go any further than that.

    Trying to justify a bad trade (loss of first rounder which hopefully for the Sens doesn’t end up being Hughes) by signing Duchesne is bad.

    If I were the sens I’d try to see if I can find an even smarter GM someone like Chiarelli to see if he’ll bite. Duchesne for Nugent-Hopkins or Puljujarvi and a 2nd rounder?

    • Duchene for Puljujarvi and a 2nd would be a horrible trade for Ottawa even if Duchene is only a rental. If they can’t extend him, other teams would offer much more than that.

      Duchene has similar production to Logan Couture and Duchene is a center that is a few years younger. Couture just got an 8 year/$64M extension. $8-$9M/year for 8 years (hopefully much closer to $8M) as suggested by MacKenzie sounds about right. Stone should be in the same ballpark.

      • I’m a fan of Duchesne, but Couture is an elite two-way center who has produced during the playoffs. No way I would compare those two. That said, 7M/yr wouldn’t be out of the question.

      • I’d have Couture over Duchene all day and in my sleep. They’re barely comparable even though they have similar point production. I think Couture is a much more complete and clutch player/person. Duchene is not a 1C on a good team. Looking at his size, is he a C even or rather a W? Someone will pay Duchene big, sure, and will not accomplish anything substantial from it. Stone is an absolute stud. Great player, great person. He is worth the money as on of the highest payed wingers.

  9. living in Ottawa I see Ottawa play often, Duchene is a very complete player, far better than I had imagined. When he played in Colorado I only got small samples of watching him play. The idea of locking up Stone, Duchene, Dzingel on 5 year deals, as suggested, would be optimal. Lots of talented young forwards on the way up or already here, Batherson, Tkachuk, White, Formenton.
    Goaltending should be fine if Gustavsson pans out. The big problem right now is defence. Chabot and Lajoie are good young offensive minded d-men but make alot of mistakes in their own end. Ceci drives me nuts, had loads of potential but never grew into it. I can’t see them paying him more next year. Boro and Wideman are 6/7 players, Boro is a leader on and off the ice and only makes 1.2 so he stays. DeMelo is hot and cold, Jaros is too slow, Harpur no verdict yet. Wolanin will be up with the Sens in the 2nd half. They need a veteran D-man in the Ian Cole mold. Of all the defencmen I mentioned none are players that I want on the ice in the last minute of a game protecting a 1 goal lead.

    • Since scoring goals isn’t their problem (their 75 is second only to TB’s 76 in the entire league) I’d see what I could get in the way of a 3/4 type D-man now – NOT an old washed-up crock but someone with about 4 years under their belt on a team looking for more offense – for Dzingel (9 goals 7 assists – 16 pts), possibly with Ceci thrown in. Then I’d elevate Wolanin and send Jaros down. Dzingel is a UFA at year’s end they’ve got enough on that plate already.

      • Maybe Gudbranson can come back home? I like Fergy’s suggestion of Ian Cole. Maybe Jason Demers?

        George, I don’t think they need another young guy. Ottawa needs a solid veteran defenseman with all the young defensemen they have. Tyler Myers may be available as a UFA next year, Ottawa should be interested

      • would be gutsy to move Dzingel but I hear you, move him now while his value is UP. When he first came onto the scene he reminded me of Condra part ii. However he has much better hands and finish. Anaheim could fit that partner. Maybe Dzingel + Ceci to L.A for Muzzin and Clifford? adding Clifford would give Boro’s hands a break

  10. The Blue Jackets are thin at center having only 4 real centers on the roster and no prospects close to being NHL ready. Unless NJ is going to hand over a #2C, and why would they, they aren’t getting Wennberg.