NHL Rumor Mill – November 24, 2018

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Latest on the Bruins, Wild, Canadiens, and Coyotes in your NHL rumor mill.

BRUINS INTERESTED IN COYLE?

THE ATHLETIC: With Patrice Bergeron sidelined at least four weeks with a rib injury, Joe McDonald reports the Boston Bruins are looking at the possibility of trading for a center. That will depend on whether Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson can handle the first-line center role in Bergeron’s absence.

McDonald claims the Bruins could revisit their offseason interest in Minnesota Wild center Charlie Coyle, with either Ryan Donato, Danton Heinen, or Anders Bjork packaged with a draft pick heading the other way. Coyle would be seen as a stopgap measure until Bergeron’s return, providing much-needed depth down the middle for the Bruins for the remainder of the season.

The Boston Bruins could have interest in acquiring Minnesota Wild center Charlie Coyle. (Photo via NHL Images)

 McDonald also suggests St. Louis Blues center Tyler Bozak or Arizona Coyotes center Derek Stepan as alternative trade options.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Coyle’s name surfaced last season in the trade-rumor mill. As we’ll see below, he’s considered by some as a potential trade chip for the Wild. If the Bruins are in the market for a center, Coyle seems a more likely trade option than Bozak or Stepan.

The Blues signed Bozak last summer and I don’t think they’re looking at making trades just yet, especially involving one of their recent veteran additions. Given the Coyotes’ lack of depth at center, I don’t think they’re keen to move Stepan unless they’re getting a proven center in return. 

WILD TRADE CANDIDATES

THE ATHLETIC: Michael Russo recently speculated over possible Minnesota Wild trade candidates and if the club could pursue a deal to acquire Toronto Maple Leafs restricted free agent William Nylander before Dec. 1.

He dismissed the notion of the Wild landing Nylander, pointing out whatever interest management may have had a month ago has waned since the Wild 11 of their last 16 (13 of their last 18 since Nov. 23). Russo also cites a source claiming general manager Paul Fenton isn’t going there as it’s too complicated, with the Leafs likely to ask for defenseman Matt Dumba and Nylander reportedly seeking over $8 million per season.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Unless the Leafs are willing to accept Jared Spurgeon instead of Dumba and if the Wild can convince Nylander to accept a more affordable contract, I don’t see the young Swede continuing his NHL career in Minnesota. 

Russo considers Charlie Coyle and Nino Niederreiter among the Wild’s most likely to move candidates. He also suggests they might consider trading pending unrestricted free agent Eric Staal if their season goes off the rails by the trade deadline.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: If the Wild remain in playoff contention Staal isn’t going anywhere. Russo believes Coyle isn’t a finisher and just lacks a killer instinct while Niederreiter’s current struggles have to be troubling for Wild management. Still, I believe there is a market for either guy if Fenton puts one or both on the trade block. 

POTENTIAL CANADIENS TRADE CANDIDATES

THE ATHLETIC: Arpon Basu lists Charlie Hudon, David Schlemko, Tomas Tatar, Andrew Shaw, and Jordie Benn as possible Montreal Canadiens’ trade candidates, with little-used forward Nikita Schebak as the most likely to go. 

Canadiens coach Claude Julien isn’t pleased with Hudon’s defensive shortcomings. Schlemko’s injury history and $2.1-million salary-cap hit could make him difficult to move. Tatar’s play this season has increased his trade value but also his value to the retooling Canadiens. Shaw is having success skating alongside Max Domi and Jonathan Drouin but Basu speculates GM Marc Bergevin might listen if the price is right.

NICHOLS ON HOCKEY: During an appearance yesterday on Calgary’s Sportsnet 960, NHL insider Elliotte Friedman discussed the Florida Panthers’ potential interest in Montreal Canadiens third-string goaltender Charlie Lindgren. He believes the Panthers had interest in the promising Lindgren last season but believes the Canadiens could set a high asking price.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: If the Canadiens become sellers it’ll likely be in the New Year, probably in the weeks leading up to the Feb. 25, 2019 trade deadline. Of those who could move, Benn seems the likely option as the Habs will soon have a logjam on the blueline when Shea Weber and Noah Juulsen return from injuries. If call-up Brett Kulak keeps playing as well as he did in last night’s game against Buffalo, it could increase the likelihood of Benn hitting the trade block. 

As for Lindgren, he’s in the first season of a three-year contract and the Canadiens aren’t in any rush to move him. Still, they could use him as trade bait at some point to address another roster need. 

POSSIBLE COYOTES TRADE CANDIDATES

THE ATHLETIC: Craig Morgan recently listed Brendan Perlini, Richard Panik, Dylan Strome, and perhaps Alex Goligoski as potential Arizona Coyotes’ trade candidates. Perlini is struggling to produce, Panik’s a frequent resident in coach Rick Tocchet’s doghouse, while flaws in Strome’s game raise questions over where he’d be playing if Christian Dvorak weren’t sidelined. Meanwhile, Jakob Chychrun could soon be ready to take Goligoski’s place among the Coyotes’ top-four defensemen. 

 







26 Comments

  1. Re WW to Minn… can’t see it happening .

    I like Spurgeon but I’m confident GMKD will demand and stick firm (and rightfully so) on Dumba … and Minn would be foolish to consider that. In addition; WW won’t accept the lower sal they (Minn) would be trying to sign him for.

    I’m going to flip-flop here… I had originally pushed for a trade now for D upgrade …but I say now… have him sit and get 30 teams bidding (instead of a handful) in the off-season.

    I still think we’re a season away from possible SC appearance (can’t see them getting by Bos AND TBay AND Metro winner this year) so wait and maximize return in off-season

    • @Pengy you have a Vezina candidate, a Norris candidate and two of the top C in the league and you don’t see your team as a Stanley Cup contender?
      As a Bruins fan, I give Toronto the edge is Goal and offense and the Bruins the edge in Defense. Keeping with my preseason prediction I see Boston as a bubble team and won’t be surprised if they miss the playoffs.
      The unfortunate part is they have to go thru Tampa.

      • @ Caper

        When you have a healthy line up your top line is almost unstoppable …Leafs may have some depth on top 2 lines as oppose to the Bs but your top line plays a way more aggressive and complete game…Marchand is almost money when ever he has a clean shot and Pastrnak can score from anywhere your TOP BIG 3 are way more aggressive on the puck and win way more puck battles in open ice and in corners than the leafs do….the leafs have become a more off the rush team and looking for rebounds the Bs can do it better in a more hard nose game and thats where it si going to count …WHEN HEALTHY …I think the Bs have a wayyyy better D core and are wayyy smarter on the D side of the puck that the Leafs …Zaitsev Ozaghainov Gardiner make extremely poor decisions on breakouts and turn over the puck way more that the Bruins do !

        As much as I hate to say this I still think in a playoff round your Bruins will take the Leafs in 6 or & games and hate to say it being a hardcore leaf fan …the leafs still lack that physical edge and do not punish enough teams and wear them down in ANY game Ive sen this year !

        Kadri really needs to step up that aspect of his game ..he has been very disappointing in that area ..I thought he would be a game changer in that way and he has not …he is struggling on the 3rd line he is not getting enough ice time to get into the game !

        I could see either Krug or Carlo in a swap to upgrade a forward….but thats where I would draw the line and it would have to be a solid deal not just to shake things up.

      • @kal El that’s exactly my concern with the Bruins, if the top line isn’t scoring who is?
        Krejci and DeBrusk look good but Boston kind of bottoms out. Toronto depth at forward is far ahead of Boston.

      • Hi Caper

        Sorry …Was out and just back now

        Yes I still believe that Leafs this year will not get out of the East.

        Leafs healthy and with both WW and AM back playing against a fully healthy Bos first round …. and I think it will be difficult for them

        They might get by Bos… that’s might… but I just can’t see them (w/o a D upgrade conducive to playoff type games) beating Bos AND TBay AND Metro winner

        I still believe TBay is in SCF this year

        With that assumption … I’d rather do the trade of WW when 30 teams try to outbid each other and not the current realistic (space and viable trade assets) 5-6 possible teams

        I’m hoping for Leafs to prove me wrong but IMO Leafs in ’19 SCF about as likely as JJ getting waived to AHL

    • @ Pengy

      In most of my trade post scenarios here for Nylander …I have always pressed more for a power forward depth player other than trying to upgrade on D …in my research due to availability and cap hit as well as other team needs for scoring …a swap to upgrade in size on the wing was a more needed asset for the Leafs than trying to pry a Depth D man that are harder to come by …

      the Leafs do not have any answers right now for guys like Marchand ..Atkinson or Anderson as in last nights game….they are being out muscled and out sized …Nylander will not help that situation out at all!

      Id rather see the Leafs try and pick up a D prospect who has size and have the main piece be a power forward in maybe a slightly broader depth deal….just an FYI …Iam NOT trading Kappy in ANY deal how ever!

      I also wish that the leafs would give Justin Holl and Rosen a longer look as Zaitsev & Igor Ozhiganov are very disappointing ..I dont see the leafs resigning Gardiner with Dermott a younger version re incarnate who makes better decisions and is harder on the puck …and then you have Sandin and Liljergen also who are very similar as well.

      • Kal El

        Yes with you re: Zaitz and Oz…. not a fan

        See your point re: “strappier” winger but still think D upgrade most important

        See my post above re timing if traded… I’ve now flip flopped and would rather have the trade done off-season… more teams vying and more chance of multi-player if needed

        I advocated before a move to get Montour and Ritchie for WW… That’s your D upgrade with a bigger winger (albeit lower quality than you were advocating )

        I think Leafs have good chance (with right moves) to be perennial deep threats for 5-7 years starting in Spring of ’20

        Dynasties are in the past … if a team can build to play deep for 5-7 years … a couple of cups over that span is not unrealistic to hope for. Even the best teams in recent years get upset or run into a very bad bout of injuries in a couple of times over a 5-7 year span (see Chi and Pens) plus once you get to SCF … it’s the two best teams hopefully so anything could happen.

        I’m more pragmatic in rationale and see a very good shot at SC in ’21 and a reasonable shot in ’20…. basically little chance regardless of moves; in ’19

        Perhaps I’m negatively compensating my rational to deflect if they lose this year and be greatly surprised if they win

        🙀👍

      • At this time last year, would you have said that Washington had the team to go all the way? I don’t think so; they were considered a good team that hadn’t fulfilled its potential.
        Toronto is a contender this year; do they win? Maybe….
        That’s why they play the games.

    • I think a really interesting deal would be the Oilers and Coyotes.

      The 2 main pieces being Strome and Puljujarvi.

      The main reason for this deal is to try and get some pieces in the room that (#1) McDavid is familiar with.. as we know Strome is a really good friend of Connors) and maybe this will lighten the room a bit as well and give some new air into a team that needs some.

      The Coyotes could use a second line Left winger with low cap hit or entry level deal that projects better than what they have.

      I think it should be a broader deal of around 2 or 3 pieces each but Strome and Puljujarvi….

      with Hinostroza Stepan and Keller their Strome will always be a 4th line center and never get a chance in the very near future …Puljujarvi also needs a new change …it really makes a bit of sense in a few ways!

      I have also been a fan of Hudson Fasching in the minor league system ..he was with Buffalo and has great net presence and a good shot and a very smart player as well..big kid at 23 years old ..6.03 foot …200 pounds may fit in nice with the Oilers and Hitchcock …he is good in his own zone.

      D Strome and Fasching +
      For
      Puljujarvi, and a pick +

      Just spit ballin…

      • Keller doesn’t play center, neither does Hinostroza.

        Right now it’s Stepan, Richardson, Galchenyuk and Strome…

      • Hi Kal El

        I think NY4 Life is correct re Keller and Hin not at C but your bang on wrt waste of Strome at 4C

        Trade of Pul for Strome with balancing assets is a good idea for both teams… both players would benefit in a change of scenery.

        However I think the “sundry” pics/ prospects to balance would need to be in Arz favour ….

        that is Pul + for Strome

        Or

        Pul plus better pick/prospect for Strome plus lesser pick/prospect

  2. Daniel Sprong played a whopping 4:18 last night … there is a strong disconnect between JR & Sullivan over this guy … maybe Sullivan will get his head out of his ass soon and play the guy, probably not. This is quickly becoming a lost season for the Pens.

    • Hi Ed

      Agree re Sprong

      We must have been posting simultaneously … see my post above …. I’ve not given up on Pens 🙂

      • Sorry Ed, ., I was referring to my post on Morning Coffee side not “above”

  3. Perhaps Pens and AZ look to swap some players? Sprong for Strome as a start then add to it?

    • @ i hatecrosby

      A player that I would target in Arizona in a trade instead would be Vincent Hinostroza….

      Id take him over Strome …this guy is a very good player Hawks really screwed up with this guy…he would really be a quality asset moving forward instead …IMO

    • Hi IHC & Kal El,

      If they move in from Spring ( and I don’t think they should) …. a trade with Arz for either of Strome or Hin would work.

      Although Pens loaded up in C position now… I’d take Strome over Hin …. if he develops properly … could be reasonable 3C next year/year after

      Hin a good player to get but last thing Pens need now is another tiny winger

      Size certainly doesn’t matter as it did before but you can’t keep adding all small wingers

  4. Although I think Rangers will try to sign after Jan 1st, Kevin Hayes would seem a logical choice for Boston. Would have to be Donato and a 1st for Hayes , or some deal involving either Carlo or McAvoy. Have to think Boston would have a good chance of signing him long term if he’s not in Rangers future plans.

    • I’d say zero chance of Boston trading Carlo or McAvoy for Hayes straight up. And even with added pieces, very little chance.

      With Chytls struggle at center to find offense, Andersson struggling to get any ice time with quality wingers. Ny should look to signing Hayes to a 4 year deal.

      I like Howden, but no so sure he’s ready for a full time top 6 role.

  5. I would have interest in Perlini . First rounder (12) -22 years old -scored 14 goals in his rookie year and 17 last year. On top good size 6’3” 211, What’s not to like ? With a little sweetener and Panik for Nylander.

    • Hi Silver Seven

      Fair offer for sure but I’m still for getting a D upgrade out of the deal

      Like both Perlini and Panik but I’d want one if the two plus D upgrade and since Arz not parting with OEL or Chychrun then there is no other Arz D worth adding to Leafs

      … if GMKD can wait ’till June ; he can evaluate prob 20 + offers that include a D upgrade

  6. A trade for Coyle would be good, short term gap and slide down to 3rd line C when Bergeron returns.
    Again with any trade it comes with a cost. Heinen, Bjork, plus.

    • @ Caper

      Not bugging you I swear …LOL

      About 3 weeks ago I had suggested to a few Bruins fans in a post to look at signing Mark Letstu…he is unsigned and will not cost a trade or to delete any major players.

      I think thsi would be a varey valuable signing to the Bruins he has really good on draws and plays the PP and PK and is a solid skater …he is in the minors right now but has been a really good 3rd line Center in the pros and can move up and down the line up as a utility guy as he still has good wheels !
      Swiss army tool …can still play !
      He’d be a solid pick up
      for nothing at a very low.. CAP HIT!

      Another soldi Center at a bit more of a cap hit would be Colin Greening on the Marlies …this guy should be in the NHL on a 3rd or 4th Line he has great size and plays an NHL style game …I wish he was on the Leafs 4th line …but he has some cap unfortunately !

  7. If I was a rival gm I’d be buying the coyotes scraps for pennies on the dollar (Strome especially)

    The coaching style does not attest to offensive players… see Domi In Montreal these days.

  8. not understanding why the Bruins would not give Donato a shot at center, he looked good in his debut end of last year, is he 200 foot game that bad? Perhaps Boston can encourage someone to take on Backes bad contract by sweetening the pot in adding Heinen and one of Bjork, Donato or JFK?
    I am surprised AZ is already giving up on Strome and Perlini and I would be more surprised if Shaw was moved, he has fit in nicely on the top line. If Lindgren is really on the block the Senators should be sniffing on a possible deal.

  9. For Marc Bergevin I think only Gallagher, Price, and Weber are his true ride or die guys. Meaning as long as he is GM and unless they request a trade, he will have to be fired for any of them to be traded from the Habs. Kotkaniemi is quickly joining that group. Everyone else is return contingent; what is the offer? Lindgren will likely be traded before his three years are up, especially if Primeau continues to develop. His age better fits into a timeline of a Price retirement transition to Primeau than does Lindgren. I see Lindgren replacing Niemi for a year before being traded; if all goes well