NHL Rumor Mill – February 21, 2019

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Latest on the Senators, Wild, Bruins, Rangers, Blackhawks, Sharks, and more in today’s NHL rumor mill. 

SENATORS TRADE WATCH

OTTAWA SUN: Bruce Garrioch reports the Senators are believed to have tabled five- and six-year offers to right wing Mark Stone with more money than was offered last summer on multi-year offers before the two sides agreed to a one-year, $7.35-million deal. If Stone hits the trade block, the Winnipeg Jets are considered the leading contender, while the resurgent St. Louis Blues could also get into the bidding. 

As the Ottawa Senators attempt to re-sign Mark Stone, he’s generating plenty of interest in the trade market (Photo via NHL Images).

The Nashville Predators and Columbus Blue Jackets are considered the front-runners for Matt Duchene, who isn’t expected to play tonight against New Jersey as the Senators attempt to trade him. The New York Islanders have also been linked to Duchene. As for Ryan Dzingel, sources say the Senators want to sign him for around $4 million annually but he’s apparently seeking a five-year deal worth $5-million annually. 

Garrioch also reports former Senator Mike Hoffman is being mentioned in trade speculation. There’s talk the Florida Panthers could package him with another former Senator, center Derick Brassard. 

NICHOLS ON HOCKEY: Appearing on NBCSN on Wednesday, TSN insider Bob McKenzie believes the Jets and Boston Bruins could be in on Stone. The Bruins last night acquired center Charlie Coyle from the Minnesota Wild. Regarding Duchene, McKenzie speculates he might be interested in joining the Predators on a longer term and suggested the Blue Jackets could also pursue the center. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Most general managers who are considered buyers are waiting to see what the Senators do with Duchene and Stone. There’s a lot of interest in both players and where they go will certainly have an effect upon the rest of the market. Maybe the Blues are kicking tires on Stone but I suspect St. Louis general manager Doug Armstrong may be leery about tinkering too much with his club’s recent successful chemistry. The Jets’ 7-1 humiliation last night at the hands of the Colorado Avalanche could push them even closer toward Stone or Duchene.

As for Hoffman, there’s been some talk he could be bundled by the Panthers in a big package offer to the Blue Jackets for Panarin. Perhaps that could be tied to the Jackets’ rumored interest in Duchene. I’m not saying they’ll flip Hoffman to the Senators but perhaps if they can land the Panthers’ first-round pick in this year’s draft perhaps they’ll package that with a young player and a prospect for Duchene. 

WHAT NEXT FOR THE WILD AND BRUINS? 

STARTRIBUNE.COM/TWINCITIES.COM: In the wake of the Minnesota Wild last night shipping center Charlie Coyle to the Boston Bruins, Sarah McLellan and John Shipley speculate the Wild aren’t done dealing before Monday’s trade deadline.

McLellan suggests pending free-agent forwards Eric Staal and Eric Fehr are possibilities, though Staal has expressed his wish to remain in Minnesota even though he and his agent haven’t had contract talks yet with management.

Shipley wonders if core players such as Jason Zucker, Mikael Granlund or Devan Dubnyk might be next, though he feels some of them will have to stay if the Wild hope for a quick turnaround. He doubts veterans Zach Parise and Ryan Suter, who still have six-years on their expensive contracts with full no-movement clauses, are going anywhere. 

NBC SPORTS BOSTON: Joe Haggerty expects the Bruins to employ Coyle as their third-line center. He feels they’re still in need of a second-line winger. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Wouldn’t surprise me if more moves are coming for both clubs. There’s talk the Sharks could be looking at bringing back Fehr. As we’ve seen, speculation suggests the Bruins could be in on Ottawa’s Mark Stone. 

UPDATE ON THE RANGERS’ TRADE CANDIDATES

NEW YORK POST: Larry Brooks reports contract length and not money is why the Rangers are expected to move pending free-agent forwards Kevin Hayes and Mats Zuccarello. Hayes is believed seeking six- or seven-years while Zuccarello apparently wants five years. The Bruins and Jets have been linked to Hayes and Zuccarello while the Blue Jackets are tied to Hayes and the Predators to Zuccarello. 

The Bruins, Predators, and Toronto Maple Leafs are said to be interested in Chris Kreider but it’ll take an offer too good to refuse to pry him away from the Rangers. So far, they haven’t received one. Defenseman Adam McQuaid and center Vladislav Namestnikov have drawn interest and Brooks thinks either guy would be a good fit with the Tampa Bay Lightning. 

NICHOLS ON HOCKEY: Appearing on NBCSN: TSN’s Bob McKenzie speculates Hayes could fetch the Rangers a first-round pick and a prospect, Zuccarello a second-round pick and McQuaid, potentially, a third-rounder. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: As Brooks points out, the fates of Hayes and Zuccarello are tied to whatever happens to Senators forwards Matt Duchene and Mark Stone. The clubs that lose out on the bidding for those two will come calling on Hayes and Zuccarello. I don’t expect Kreider to be going anywhere at the deadline. 

WILL THE BLACKHAWKS BECOME BUYERS?

THE ATHLETIC (subscription required): Scott Powers and Mark Lazerus speculated over what the resurgent Chicago Blackhawks will do at the trade deadline. They’re reportedly shopping John Hayden and Gustav Forsling and they suggest they could consider moving defenseman Erik Gustafsson for the right price. Powers cites a source claiming Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrook, Marcus Kruger, Artem Anisimov, and Chris Kunitz aren’t interested in waiving their no-trade clauses. 

NICHOLS ON HOCKEY: Appearing on NBCSN, TSN’s Bob McKenzie reports the word out of Chicago is the Blackhawks have no desire to part with futures for rental players. It’s either a hockey trade or bust for them. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: In other words, they want a player-for-player swap, with the return being someone whose rights the Blackhawks will own beyond this season. 

SHARKS INTERESTED IN RYAN MILLER?

NBC SPORTS: cites a report by Kings blogger and insider John Hoven indicating the San Jose Sharks and Anaheim Ducks are involved in trade discussions regarding Ducks backup goaltender Ryan Miller. Hoven indicates the return would be a third-round pick. Miller has a limited no-trade clause but would apparently okay a trade to San Jose. There’s also a chance Miller could return to the Ducks this summer as a free agent. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Ducks and Sharks are reportedly denying this but, as NHL Network’s Jonathan Davis points out, that doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Davis suggests there could be some last-minute details to iron out. The Sharks’ goaltending tandem of Martin Jones and Aaron Dell has been shaky of late. Miller could be a good backup stopgap who could push Jones to elevate his game. 

UPDATES ON THE FLAMES, KINGS, AND PENGUINS

CALGARY SUN: Daniel Austin reports the Flames have been linked to Ottawa Senators’ Mark Stone and the New York Rangers’ Mats Zuccarello. He believes GM Brad Treliving will make a move by the deadline if there’s someone available who can improve their chances for a Stanley Cup run.

LOS ANGELES TIMES: Curtis Zupke reports Los Angeles Kings forward Carl Hagelin, Trevor Lewis and Kyle Clifford are being mentioned in recent trade speculation. 

TRIBLIVE.COM: Jonathan Bombulie reports Pittsburgh Penguins GM Jim Rutherford doesn’t want to trade his first-round pick and doesn’t have much salary-cap space to worth with. Under the right conditions, however, he might get into the bidding for one of the appealing names in the trade market. 







76 Comments

  1. It will be interesting too see what transpires. Big moves don’t always pan out to playoff success either.

    On that note, I firmly believe the middle of the pack plugs who can skate and add sandpaper should be sought after, look at Tom Wilson for example.

    Dark horse for the deadline is Zack Kassian, who fights, kills penalties and has 11 points in his last 15 games, on 6 goals.

    I could see a team like the islanders or lightning inquiring about his availability, if Edmonton does decide to sell on him

    • OILERS …..

      I have posted heavily on the Oilers this year….

      as per TSN this morning it seems as if Mike Hoffman is on the block again …all this guy does is score….If the Oilers do not get in on him …they are not serious about improving the team …he would be a perfect complimentary player to both 1st and second lines and can be double shifted to play with Mcdavid & Draisitil with those hands ….he has pedigree a scoring touch and a perfect contract to insert into the line up for the next few years …would be a sin for the Oilers not to go hard after this guy ….obviously he would compliment ANY team ..but the Oilers really need a player like this in a bad way ….IMO …Just sayin …Cheers

      • I don’t think the Oilers have the assets to compete with other teams to acquire Hoffman. Like I said yesterday, unless the Panthers want a combination of draft picks, that isn’t the Oilers first rounder, and forward prospects I don’t know how that can work. Also Hoffman has a M-NTC which he can list 10 teams which he cannot be traded to. So he would have to approve a trade to Edmonton.
        As an Oiler fan I would love it, but I also have to be realistic. I just don’t see it happening.

      • @ Kev Jam

        You should be open to almost anything that is respectable and a fair trade for Hoffman …the present team and the players on it minus McDavid Draistitl are useless ..and RNH while decent has had an expiry date since 2 years ago ….and the only reason he is still there is because he is a centerman and not a winger …

        Iam soooo rooting for the Oilers to improve around McDavid ….they have plenty of assets to make a play of Hoffman …they need a winger who can score ..they are literally DYING on the vine for one and wasting the best years of Mcdavids career for a winger for him to play with …you have to go out and get a player of this caliber if he is available if you ask me …and yes maybe OVERPAY just a bit …draft picks are just not an option anymore for the Oilers after this year !

        Oilers need legit NHL players like yesterday !!!

      • @Kal El,
        I don’t understand what you mean about RNH having an “expiry date since 2 years ago”?
        RNH is only 25 years old and is having his best season of his career. His best season point total is 56 points in 2013/14 and 2014/15. This season he already has 54 points in 59 games. He has also be producing without McDavid as well as with him. What the Oilers need is a winger who can play on the second line. So then the Oilers have 2 scoring lines that teams have to worry about and not just one, McDavid’s line.
        The reason I say that all the Oilers have to offer are draft picks and forward prospect is because other than McDavid, Draisaitl, and RNH who else do the Oilers have to offer for Hoffman? IMO Larsson and Nurse are the other untouchables on defence along with prospects Bouchard, Bear, and Jones. Who else do the Oilers have that Florida would want in a trade?
        I know people will be shaking their heads at Larsson, but he is a great stay at home d-man who makes things tough in front of his own net for the opponents. The Leafs would love to have this guy on there blueline. It’s his type of player that they are dearly missing.

      • @ Kev Jam

        Lol…The leafs do have a LARSON on D …his name is Zaitsev …no disprespect ..but its true.

        Iam not disputing RNH play at all …Iam just simply saying that out of Eberle Hall and RNH the only reason RNH survived thus far is due to him being a Centerman …that was what I meant in him having an expiry date 2 years ago …we all know that when the Oilers were contimplating making serious moves his name was the one that came up first out of the original players up for grabs from the mid 2000 team Iam not knocking his play …merely stating that he is from a pre Mcdavid era and those players are more likely to be moved before a post MCDavid era first …or at least that would be my thought process …in any regards ..Id move RNH for Hoffman …to improve on a scoring winger if need be ..as you have Mc D and Daisitil as the 1 – 2 anyways whom both need help on the wing not down the middle.

        Please dont get me wrong I really want to see the Oilers do well …I share your feelings about RNH as I do about Kadri …but at some point you have to evaluate a bigger need and what it may cost !

      • After just reading the article on TSN.ca https://www.tsn.ca/countdown-to-tradecentre-buyers-not-willing-to-wait-on-stone-1.1261180
        draft picks and prospects may just be enough to get it done. Florida is rumored to be dumping salary to be able to go after Bobrovsky and Panaran in the offseason.
        This offer scares me, but at the most I would like the Oilers to offer is either Calib Jone or Ethan Bear and a 2nd rounder for Hoffman? Maybe Benson and a 2nd round pick?
        These are upgrades on what they paid for Hoffman from the Sharks. 2018 4th and 5th round picks plus a 2019 2nd round pick.

      • @ Kev Jam

        Point taken on giving up a better return for Hoffman with the deal you presented

        …but you may need to move out some money to almost $6 million with Sekera back ….to institute Hoffman on the roster …

        Iam hoping that the Oilers look at this seriously though ..fingers crossed for you !

        Cheers

      • @Kal El
        Not taking your comment the wrong way, I’m enjoying the discussion.
        Nuge is 25 and Hoffman is 29. I don’t see Hoffman an upgrade on Nuge. In fact IMO that would be a huge downgrade. The most points Hoffman has put up is 61 points. When Hoffman was 25 was his first full season in the NHL and he got 48 points in 79 games. Nuge is on pace to get 71 points this season. Considering the baggage that Hoffman brings to a team Nuge for Hoffman asking price is worth being hung up on.
        Yeah, one of the reasons why Nuge is still an Oiler is because he is a centre. The bigger reason why he is still an Oiler over Eberle and Hall is because of his team first attitude in the dressing room and on the ice. He is also a big fan favourite.
        A first line with McDavid and Draisaitl and a second line of Nuge and Hoffman would be something to look forward to. 👍

      • @ Kev Jam

        I hear ya …

        sounds more like sell high on RNH now for multiple pieces back…. as you guys need more depth …its not working with him in the line up regardless of his production …there needs to be more depth in the Oilers secondary and a need for a scoring winger ..it seems as if this would be the time to capitalize on him …just like my leafs would be with Kadri even though they are both fan favorites ..not getting to where they need to go with expensive 3rd line centers when pieces are needs elsewhere to. compete

        Ive said before the Oilers can do this through the draft anymore with Mcdavids best years now ..they need to make a major swap and improve in multiple areas right now with a major multi player deal !

        It may cost a few old fan favorites but IMO needs to be done to give McDavid a better team around him …the Oilers only have 2 players that can bring back multiple pieces and you have no choice but to start with RNH …you cant keep going down the same road with no support and you have no money for teh UFA market next year either …so right now you are staring down the barrel of pretty much the same team if you dont make hard decisions and fill out the roster with pedigree on the second & 3rd line

      • I just can’t see a world where the Oil trade RNH for Hoffman. Agree with Kevjam, a significant downgrade. RNH is one of the more underrated players in the NHL. Excellent 2 way centre who has sacrificed offense to play the 2 way role his entire career. Team first 200′ player for a one dimensional guy who cheats for goals. Hard pass.

      • Hoffman was ask for a 10 team no trade list I think the oilers are one of these teams

      • You were touting Carter Hart something large, yesterday.

        6 goals on 18 shots

    • Hi Twin

      I had no idea that he had 11 points in last 15 games. Are you sure on that stat? He’s only got 16 points (8 G, 8A) right now; which would mean he was only at 2 G and 3A for his first 41 games. I thought he had been doing a bit better than that.

      If you are right… that is a massive turnaround in play

      He certainly has grit and yes can fight, and is big : 6’3″, 215. One more year left at $1.95M

      What would be the ask?

      • Yeah, Kassian does have 11 points including 6 goals in the last 15 games. He has been playing with McDavid more often the past few weeks.
        IMO it would be a huge mistake for the Oilers to take Kassian. He is one of the true bottom 6 forwards the Oilers have who can also move up to a top six spot in case of injuries. The guy big, can skate, and fight. Yeah he takes some bad penalties, but you gotta take the bad with the good. I’m worried that the reason for him to be playing with McDavid is that they are showcasing him for the trade deadline.
        Kassian is exactly the type of player the Leafs need going into the playoffs.

      • Sorry, supposed to be “a huge mistake for the Oilers to trade* Kassian.”
        Fat finger syndrome.

      • Agree again Kevjam. The Oil need more NHL players not fewer. Unless the return is an upgrade that can play now.
        Move the UFA’s or if you can find a sucker (good luck with that) dump the dead weight.
        Patience, patience, patience. Unfortunate for Oil fan but true.

      • PENGY & DEE……..I hate to this but I think our penguins are done…stick a fork in em. They looked s****y against the sharks. Kessel with a bone head give a way move taking it in to the sharks zone poke check Kane they other way break a way goal…Jack Johnson looking lost and out of position as usual. The coach not having confidence in Murray starting DE smith in a big game.

        Unless this team does something BIG at the deadline this team well wait till next year. This is the first time in 4 years I have lost confidence they just don’t have it.

        AS good as Crosby, Guentzal, Dumolin and Letang have been and they been really good….. the rest of the team inconsistent and underachieving. And what’s worse Capitals knock off Toronto in Toronto and pick up Hagelin in the process.

        I hope I’m wrong but as dandy don used to say turn out the lights the parties over. “(

      • KALEL is consistent, in making himself “try” and “attempt” to sound like he has a clue, it just isn’t there.

        RNH has an expiry date;
        2 years past due…

        Also-
        Leafs have a Larsson on D of th

      • Rnh 2 years past expiry date..?

        Leafs have a Larsson on D too- named Zaitsev lol

        Shows how much Kal El spouts his BS nonsense, honestly- over/under HAS to be set @ 14 yrs old.

        Hopefully you made AAA this year, Kal

        Couple guys who have been on here for years, were showing some friends of mine your Zaitsev = Larsson comment, comparing them as the similar skill set- I just shook my head & said “ive actually read it already”, with a laugh…

    • Twin

      I checked — you were bang on

      Kassian didn’t get a single point until his 26th game and only had cumulative 1 G and 1A on January 1st

      That is quite the turnaround

      He just may be worthy of a call

      Thoughts on return ask by Oil?

    • Here we go again! Last year the dark horse was Maroon. Now, we have Kassian as the dark horse this year. No one wants the Oilers garbage

      • @ FD

        I got roasted last year …for saying that Maroon was 1 year removed from playing in the KHL …Kassian will not be a major factor to any team in any way regardless of his good 2 and half week stint ! …IMO I agree …

      • Completely agree.

  2. I would have interest in Perlini from the Hawks.
    Been saying all along Zuccarello in Calgary would be a good fit. Swap him out for Neal and move him somewhere if you can. Flames need to keep their first. Have given a lot away over the four years.
    Panarin to the beach and no playoffs. Has the potential for a blockbuster with FLorida

    • @ Silver seven

      I think an interesting deal would be Zuccarello to the Caps for Burakovsky …both on expiring contracts and LW.

      The Caps …put D. S. Pelley on waivers who plays left wing to open up cap space and there is a need to upgrade in that position now not having 2 Left Wing players sitting.

      I wander if this is the way the Caps are going …
      …Zuccs would be an upgrade on either of those players greater speed and play making ability …perfect 2nd line player for the Caps

      I think Zuccs is going to the Caps …sport gut hunch ..LOL

      • Zuccarello is a rw, not lw.

      • @ NY 4 life

        Thanks for that …your right as per usual.

        In my research they had him listed as left wing on 2 sites …not sure why ??

        Would change things for sure …

        Thx for pointing out ….cheers

      • @ NYR 4 LIFE ……& Silver seven

        Had Smith Pelley as right wing ..

        So was investigating an opening there still as per my Zuccs comments….

        I made an error on Burakovsky being a left winger sorry bout that …

      • A lot of sites have Hayes as a RW and Buchnevich as a center. I don’t think Hayes has ever played anything other than center in NY , and I don’t believe Buchnevich has played center at any point of his career.

  3. Good morning

    Caper …..thoughts on Coyle deal ?

    IMO … Bruins did a solid job yesterday picking up strength down the middle and not giving up multiple pieces …and or a 1st rounder that maybe Hayes would have commanded.
    Coyle is a solid depth Center man and can be productive and plays a decent physical game …the perfect fit for value and still has one more year on the deal so they wont loose him to UFA ( i.e Hayes ) and give up an asset for nothing …well done !
    Bruins still have assets to bolster scoring with this deal done….if they could land say a Hoffman instead of Zuccs they would really be well improved going into the playoff run to take a shot at the Caps or Bolts ….they would have to clear out some cap though….Bs will beat the Leafs with the present roster.

    Back soon to comment further …Cheers 🙂

    • Hi Kal El

      I know your post was to Caper for response; but wanted to respond as well.

      I did a more lengthy one below

      Re: Coyle— I think that Bruins did very well in that trade. I do know Coyle has under-performed this year and there are critics out there; but getting him (with term) for a 5th and a player that had also struggled and that has sat in the press box at times; was a good deal.

      Coyle can play both C and wing and therefore gives options for Sweeney if there are other moves coming. Bruins still have a pick in each of the first 4 rounds. He also has size.

      I still believe all moves by Bruins should be for players with term; no move IMO, gets them past Bolts this year.

      • Hey Pengy

        Always great to interact with you here …thx

        AGREE 100% …I followed Coyle as he came up through the Wild system and posted heavy on him here in the past when he broke into the league …

        I think the Bruins did a great job getting the player on term and his mobility in and around the line up as you say …agree with everything !

        He has more to give in the right situation if he can blend in well with the Bs …he seems as if he is a Bruins style player great depth move and keeping assets …they stole him ..IMO

        PS …

        The Pens are also my defacto team ..lol.
        HUGE Crosby fan … J. J . is the Phaneuf contract now unfortunately…

      • Kal El

        If only JJ were the “Phaneuf” contract…. Phaneuf is over paid for sure, but never, in all his years playing; has he individually put a team on the precipice of play-off bubble instead of being in 1st in their Div (that they would be w/o him).

        JJ is absolutely crippling the Pens

        come on flu bug!!!!

        Sully has experimented all year with different line combos , different D pairings. Many many many different experiments.

        Here is a one game experiment that will prove very very fruitful…. sit JJ in the press box for a game.

        A one game experiment Sully– got to be worth a shot right?

        If you can’t do that, sit him a period.

        Sully, you have only sat JJ one single shift this entire year. One shift. And that was after he had individually contributed to two consecutive Goals against in 2 consecutive shifts.

        This just does not make any sense…. sit him big time!!!!!!

        Rant over

      • @ Pengy

        …not so sure Phaneuf was not a major issue in not making the playoffs at $ 8 million per ….and his D zone coverage.

        I do not miss his high hard slap shot on the Power play that always hit the glass and exited the zone for no rebound chances that CRIPPLED the PP ….

        or His TERRIBLE coverage in front of the net…where he ALWAYS screened the goalie but would never take out his man …OR his terrible PIVOT to the inside when a player was barreling down on the wing on a rush where he could never get caught up on the play ….WORSE INSIDE PIVOT ive ever seen in the NHL…

        Rant over ….LOL…. at least J J is less …$$$

        Ca la vie …in the past now …

    • Kal El, the night before and yesterday morning Darren Dreger was tweeting that Boston was the front runner for Kevin Hayes. So what happened? Maybe Boston made the same offer, Rangers declined and wanted a 1st and Sweeney said no and moved on to Coyle who has a year left on his contract. With that said I no longer think Boston is interested in Hayes but Sweeney really likes the local boys.
      Personally I envision Coyle playing between Heinen and Cehlarik (but he just got sent down) I think it’s a fair deal. Donato will get a chance in Minny and he could be a 20-30 goal scorer.
      Coyle is the answer for a third line center and can move up the lineup if injuries to Bergeron or Krecji also I like Charlie size and speed. But he is not the answer for the second line winger.
      If this is Boston only move, then they won’t be going far they need more scoring depth.
      Sweeney been on record saying he doesn’t want to give up the 1st round pick so i’m not sure where that leave them.
      The only one I would give up the 1st round pick for is Mike Hoffman, simply because he has term left on his contract. I wouldn’t give it up for any pending UFA’s. As I was advocating for a Hoffman Brassard package but that’s not happening now.

      • @ Caper

        Cheers …
        yes!!
        was suggesting Hoffamn earlier in a thread for the Bs …but they would have to move out a contract as well…to fit him in …posted below with George O on maybe Dzingle would be a better fit for money than Hoffaman at this point ….see post at bottom…
        as per George O …

  4. Rutherford needs to retire, he’s way out of touch. Here is an article all about how upset he is that no one will give Jack Johnson a chance, poor guy. Apparently he’s doing just fine.
    https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins/2019/02/20/jack-johnson-penguins-trade-deadline-jim-rutherford/stories/201902200098

    And this is in retort and makes a whole lot more sense, I’ll let you guys be the judge of who’s right or wrong.

    https://www.pensburgh.com/2019/2/20/18233813/jim-rutherford-stays-defiant-and-incorrect-about-jack-johnson

    • Deee

      Thanks for those links….great reads….I knew I wasn’t insane

      Worst mistake of GMJRs career

      I was aware of the stat…. JJ ON the ice Pens GF% 40; and when he’s off the ice 60(SIXTY) %…. mind boggling

      Sully and GMJR are just completely blind to this

      Without any pause I can tell you that I truly believe that Pens are in first in their Div, if JJ had not been signed…. individually he has cost Pens a minimum of 4 victories (MINIMUM) ….. one of which was against NYI…. if he’d not been in just those 4 games …. Pens 79 points; NYI 74 points

      Since Sully and GMJR are completely blind; what would be absolutely fantastic for Pens is for Panarin to give a big long hug to JJ; and then JJ refuses antibiotics …. that gets Pens at least a 2 game reprieve

      Sully won’t be as colourful as Torts in his player’s sickness descriptors tho!

      ☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️

      • Wow DEE Pengy…you guys really hate J.J. so venomous 🙂 LOL

        I agree he does suck but we can only hope for a demotion. a trade, I never want to see an player injured (ever) but there must be some way to get him in the press box.

        I know for the love of god go get a top 4 defenseman like a Brandon Montour a Nick Jensen, even a Adam Mcquaid to play with Schultz..

        The Pettersson & Rikola can man the bottom pair until Matta comes back from injury..theres a thought… We cant win without another defense man.

        Tampa is great, Toronto is stacked, Washington is thee defending Stanley cup champions, Columbus is good…Boston is on Fire a 3-2 OT win at Vegas and they added Charlie Coyle and Pasternak is due back that team is scary good.

        The Penguins have played well against Tampa and Washington…I think Boston would be a real tough opponent for Pittsburgh..

      • I am just as frustrated as you guys. But I don’t think they are blind to JJ. I think they’re in a tough position with him and I feel bad for them. Let’s face it, his signing was more a favour to Crosby who JJ is friends with than an actual reflection on performance. Most teams would have put him on waivers (Alzner in Montreal as an example) or attempted to trade him by now (they dumped Sprong this year despite him being younger, more talented, etc.), much less camp him out in the press box. Yet they won’t do that.
        The numbers clearly reflect how awful he has been. Sully and GMJR aren’t stupid or ignorant people and they’ve shown this with the team assembled over the past few years. But they are in a position to have to play and defend this guy in order to not tick off Crosby unfortunately.

      • Ya Johnson is a pen for the duration of that contract!..unless Rutherford is canned?

    • Deee……I must agree Rutherford started out strong but the last year or so he hasn’t been good with making decisions or at least admitting he made a bad decision.

      Anti Neimi disaster
      Jack Johnson disaster
      derrick Brassard questionable (just didn’t work out)
      Tanner Pearson Questionable

      He has still made many good moves Kessel, Pettersson, Bjugstad (in time will b good) MCcann plays hard, Rikola will be good Zack Aston Reese and others.

      but i agree its time for him to go..he has lost the magic…

  5. Bruins won’t beat the Leafs this time around-they are on a great run and have had an injury plagued season while still amassing lots of points but the wheels are set to fall……and neither team can beat the Bolts. Not sure if any team can but the way the Blues are playing right now makes them dangerous!

    • @ jon Mcgill

      Unfortunately ..being a Leafs fan …I have not seen the Leafs play a style of playoff Hockey in any game this year …and they are slipping bad in the last quarter of the season …I still do not see the Leafs beating the Bruins in a playoff match ….the impact players on the Leafs REFUSE to engage in the dirty areas and puck battles where a playoff series is won…I dont see Leafs beating the Bruins …Hope Iam wrong but I just have not seen a playoff style of play from the Leafs in any game this year…they are way to fancy easy to scout and predict and will not be able to contain the big 3 ..

      • You are 100% correct

    • Not a fan of either, but if I were betting on that series (IF it happens) I wouldn’t bet against the Bruins simply because we KNOW they rise to the occasion when the playoffs roll around – especially players like Bergeron Marchand and Chara – whereas the Leafs, for the most part, have yet to show that they can deal with the style of play associated with playoff hockey – particularly their D.

    • Jon , Kal El, George

      I’m a Leaf fan (on top of being a Pens fan) as you may know. Obviously I would love for Leafs to go very far this year.

      to me…. they are not quite there yet.

      As at now… IMO a Leafs/Bruins series could go either way.

      This is irrelevant in that I can’t see any way; as it stands right now; that either team gets by TBay (and they’ll be 2nd round opponents).

      I said before that any/all moves by Leafs and/or Bruins, for this year; should be geared with term players coming back and with the expectation of winning that series (Leafs Bruins) to gain an extra 2 and possibly 3 home games against TBay— nothing more.

      Leafs moved out a first and got Muzzin (great add with term)

      Bruins added Coyle for what I believe is a bargain; and Bruins still remain with picks in rounds 1 through 4.

      Leafs big moves need to be done in the summer.

      Bruins could still make a move for a player with term for a top 6 winger (if they slot Coyle in at 3C) and a Centre if they slot Coyle in on the wing. Strength moves for possibly beating leafs; but more geared towards next year.

      Sweeney should not be considering a move on Stone or Duchene unless he is all but sure that he can get an extension done. Even if one of those are on Bruins…. I still can’t see them getting by Bolts this year.

      Leafs— depth tweaks only please unless a deal for a player with term comes along that just can’t be refused.

      Bolts are lapping all of this up and just hoping that the Leafs/Bruins series goes 7 with loads of bruises happening. Bolts should be well rested from a 4 or 5 game relatively easy series.

      GO LEAFS GO

      GO PENS GO

      • I’m getting the impression that the Bruins aren’t done yet after landing Coyle and that the next big deal will involve the Sens and Dzingel. Dorion has been holding up the pack who want to get in on trades simply because he holds two of the biggest pieces in Duchene and Stone, and everyone wants to see where they go and for what returns before taking their own plunge. And if he (Dorion) drags this out into Sunday we could see one of the better trade days in recent memory – which will please the panel shows. I think the deal on Dzingel was held up until Dorion saw what Minnesota settled for on the Coyle deal.

      • @ Geroge O

        I agree …was think that as well…Bruins looking for a crafty younger style player who has a scoring touch …and he does .. I was suggesting Hoffman earlier as a player to look at for that area of things but his term could be an issue for the Bs at the present time where as Dzingle would not for maybe the same purpose !

        Dzingle will not command a 1st rounder and that is appealing at this point for what he is and where you can insert him …if the Bs can improve without giving up a 1st rounder in the areas they want KUDOS …would be worth the risk of a younger player or prospect and or 2nd rounder and a later pick perhaps …I share your thought on that !

      • I beg to differ when it comes to a 1st round pick for Dzingel. Since his first full season 2 years ago he has shown steady progress – 14g 18a 32 pts – then 23g 18a 41 pts – and so far this year 22g 22a 44 pts in 57 gp and is on a pace for 30 goals and 33 assists. He’s just 26 y/o, has decent size for a LW at 6′ 190 lbs and has blazing speed.

        With the Bruins 1st pick coming well down in the bottom third of this summer’s draft, does anyone think they’re going to find someone who can step in and match that production?

        If they won’t relinquish a 1st for Dzingel then they’re not going to get him.

    • Jon……Have you seen Boston play lately! They can absolutely beat anybody.. They beat Vegas last night 3-2 in OT, they are 4-0 on a tough west trip and the just added Charlie Coyle. Plus they dont have Pasternak who is coming back they are really good.

      Toronto is stacked too…but Boston is really being over looked..they have good goal tending, they can shut teams down with defense, and they have scoring. Marchand, Pasternak, Bergereon, Coyle and more..

      • Ottawa just called up 2 from the farm.
        I hope you’re kinda right George.
        Sounds like someone’s moving before 5 EST.

      • Well, Duchene is for sure. Maybe not by 5:00. There MAY be some last-second deal for Stone but until that’s done, they simply cannot play him tonight. It would be insane to put him out there, see him get hurt, and have virtually NO market all of a sudden, and then lose him at the end of the season to free agency. He has to sit until he signs. Same applies to Duchene, although in his case it’s just a mater of when a deal is concluded. Meantime, they can’t play him for the same reason. And maybe one of those two call-ups is to replace Dzingel who’s in much the same boat.

      • Not many Leaf fans are overlooking Boston, BLACKNGOLD, believe me. I see the Leafs as better prepared this year but I wouldn’t bet the house on Toronto over Boston…l buck or two maybe……

  6. Nyr4life question as I stated Darren Dreger was tweeting before the Coyle deal Boston was the front runner for Hayes. If it was the same package, not enough? what was missing?
    The reason I state the same package saying Hayes is the better player but Coyle had a year left.

    • @ George O

      While I dont dispute the production increase year to year ..Id be shocked if a team gave up a 1st rounder.
      MAYB the Sharks …as they are in full on go for it mode with Karlsson and Jumbo and Pavelski in a UFA year !

      I guess its fair to say a late first rounder ???
      …but this year a late first rounder is a quality player in a deep draft …and in my research this past year on players that have improved it seems as if early second rounders have actually been quality players and surprise players when developed in the minors for some time and brought up in a rebuild ….main reason is teams usually keep them around longer as most of the 1st rounders that linger get traded faster in multi player deals ….a second rounder gets a better and longer window to improve and become men and when called upon step in right away easier….so its not an easy give away these days …a late first rounder that is !

      BUT IN SAYING That …the Bruins do seem to be ALL IN this year ….but they may also want to draft a D man in this years first round and that would be a late first round area of picks for a top D man to replace the bottom 4 D pairings that they seem to have to rebuild very soon….not any easy decision for the Bruins or any team to give that up these days as they seem to be gold.

      A team that does not want to delete BUT ADD may fork over the first rounder …i.e Nashville Jets Sharks …interesting to see if he fetches that …

    • Caper,

      The believed asking price for Hayes is a 1st and prospect. Whether they get that or not, is anybody’s guess.

      I believe once Duchene is moved, they’re hoping to create a bidding war and probably will.

      With Boston out, Nashville, Vegas, Columbus, Winnipeg are all in the market. Possibly Colorado as well. Only one is getting Duchene….

      I really thought Hayes and Boston made a lot of sense.

    • Sums it up nicely Caper, the extra year is a big deal as it allows them patience with JFK and Frederic as they proved they are not ready this year.
      Sweeney told NBC he “may” be done for the TDL but making and taking calls.
      Sounds like the ask is still too high for him for the marquee guys, so OK makes sense.
      Perhaps he slides in late like SJ with Kane last year as the sellers realize they may get nothing for a UFA who is leaving.
      We will see, should be interesting.

  7. Big Leaf fan as many of you know….I wrote last year it was an error for the Leafs not to trade JVR, Bozak & Komorov as it was obvious to me they were not going to get past the Bruins and Tampa….to me it is the same this year….only the player that won’t be traded and can’t be resigned is Gardiner.

    What makes it worse this year is that Matthews is telling you have 5 years starting in Sept. to make it happen. Bruins apparently reacting to ages of Chara, Krejci & Bergeron are going all in this year. This may spread into next year.

    So the Leaf window in my opinion starts next year or the year after. Where are the play off style players. Babcock (overrated coach), but experienced keeps using euphemisms last month HEAVY….this month TALL…. He know you can’t win when the opposition feels no compulsion to keep their heads up. Unless that is they fear running into the boards accidently.

    Dubas can’t do anything I suspect in the next 5 days to change anything. If he does not by the middle of July he should be told what types of players to acquire and if he refuses then he should be let go. Figure skaters are given free space in the NHL in October and November….they are told where they skate in April.

    Hunter my Hunter where are you?

    • OLD BLUE DOG …..nice to hear from you

      I agree with you on most your points…hence why I was really ANTI NYLANDER signing …just another player that plays the perimeter for 82 games…Leafs need a grinding line that can score and wear down teams in puck battles and make them think twice on making a play !

      3rd periods in playoff hockey are HUGE …if you do not make your opponents pay the price through the first 2 periods …your sunk in the 3rd period games where the game is on the line …and the other team is still fresh to a degree or able to conduct the play on how they see fit to the end of 60 minutes ….the Leafs thus far have never been able to over take a game by imploring there style of game to the opponent and dominating

      teams are just going to plain and out right fore check Nylander Matthews to death and bump them out every time they touch the puck and make them scared to death to touch every puck or cross the neutral zone or get a puck in the corners….its just that simple …

      If Leafs think they are going to win with just Matthews being set up in OVECHKINS office they are living in a dream land !

      I know this comment may get ripped …but dollar for dollar Id rather have J V R ….for the same amount of money as Nylander …even if its just for his net presence on the power play…which they miss TERRIBLY !

      As ive spewed out a thousand time this year ..Gardiner Zaitsev will be the achilles heal of the playoffs for the Leafs !

      In saying that …I still really look forward to playoff hockey its like Christmas for me when the Leafs re in it !
      LOL ….

      • If Leafs somehow make a move for Kreider when they could of kept JVR around…

      • big leaf fan—your right about net presence–we have done—its always about the pretty passes and perfect shot that rarely comes around–its all about the silly figure skating like previous post–annoying –also need booming shot–have none too–until we get that with some grit and protection–then forget it —1st round and out–truth hurts and i hate it but true

    • Old Blue Dog, respectfully disagree. The window’s open for the Leafs, if they get Kadri back and no further injuries, and if they play well. Two big “ifs” for sure but they are better this year and I expect them to show it in the playoffs.
      Where’s Shticky when you need him?

      • @ BC Leaf fan …

        I share your vigor …and love of the Leafs ..but I try to evaluate using my hockey sense as opposed to my heart….

        I can tell you I was singing praises at the start of the year on here on the Leafs…and then George O Shore or park and Old Blue Dog broght me back down to earth….

        Iam having a real hard time seeing teh Leafs get out of teh first round whom ever they play ….they have show a real weakness in there game that simply has been exploited and well challenged by rival teams on most nights since Jan 01 …I am having a hard time seeing them able to get up to the compete level and physical play that it is going to take to win a series …unfortunately 🙁

        I am also having a very hard time watching Nylander and Matthews shy away from the puck battles that require a physical component outside of just trying to lift a stick and steal a puck …that combined with a TERRIBLE PP …and Gardiner Zaitsev pairing ..they would not be a team that I bet on winning vs the Bruins Bolts or Caps …IMO ..:(

        And unless players like Tavares Marner and Kappy can literally drag this team and will them into the fight …and lead the charge by doing something extra ordinary ..its going to be real tough !

        Love ya though ….my fellow Leaf brother

  8. Been a Kreider fan for a while and he checks all the boxes for the Bruins but agree he’s probably staying put unless they get blown away by a trade offer

    • @Joe
      I was also thinking Kreider is exactly what Boston needs but the price is too high. Coyle is a nice pickup regardless

    • Karl El, hockey sense, is it? Seems more a commitment to one style of play, a style that is changing and has been for some time. Tampa Bay doesn’t fit your style. What are their chances this year? If the bet was TB or the other fifteen teams, what’s your pick?

      • BC LEAF FAN

        I am not sure what your talking about or asking I am sorry please expand on your question ….at the end there.

        As part of the first phase of your remarks Iam not saying rockem sockem hockey like teh Kings Leafs of old with Wendel and McSorley …but I am talking about simple puck battles that the leafs refuse to engage in and are getting run over …Iam not asking for the drop the gloves Hockey ..but I am talking about dictating play …causing turn overs due to taking a man out or finishing checks …creating an offensive turn over because you impeded a player in the neutral zone … you wear down guys in the offensive zone on the cycle and make them work harder on getting it out of there own zone over a time frame of the game and the series so its harder by game 4 to even attempt those plays due to being hurt time and time again which causes mental lapses and turnovers …and the YES that od play that can turn a tide of a game or series that comes from deep down and is unexpected that is not a GOAL but a play that can change the dynamics of the series ….its like Chinese torture….its not each single drop on the head that hurts…. its the 10,000 that follow combined it that wears you down …and I do not see that the Leafs are able to wear down any opponent this year to will out a game …when they are lacking the skill part of it on any given night …they almost loose every game when the skill falls asleep and no will follows ….

        Am I being hard on them …sure Iam …but its unfortunately what they will need to play if they are going to get out of the first round or anywhere for that matter !

        hard for me to disparage a leaf fan being one myself …but Iam just pointing out what I see ….sorry bout that

      • BC LEAF FAN ……

        Also ….due to the encouragement of NYR4life …Ive watched a lot of Tampa games since reading his posts and I can assure you that Tampa is not playing a soft skilled only game …Stamkos for one is EXTREMELY engaged and they have a big solid team that dictates the play and wills there way to destroy teams… not soley only talent driven ……the Leafs have smiliar talents but not the formentioned aspect that I am trying to describe …the Bruins & Caps have it as well…not the Leafs unfortunately!

        I hope they have a better game plan than what is being provided now in a months time if they have the same active roster

  9. Sharks get Haley off waivers. Final piece in place for Cup. Note: just a weee bit of sarcasm on this cold Thursday morning in San Jose.

    • Like SJ’s chances dpf, looked great against the Oilers! Kidding aside they look great. SJ and CGY to come out of the Pacific. SJ by a hair because of experience. Both have questions in goal of late.

  10. And in other news my Sabres will probably make a decent trade pick up but that good young player will include some player who is a cap dump. We should just become a cap dump team.

  11. So Zuccs ….NOT GOING ….to the Caps …LOL

    Its Hagelin instead to fill in the left Wing …50% cap retention by the Kings 3rd rounder and futures conditional

    Is it just me…. or does anyone else feel like an old school major deal is going to go down …

    • What I meant, Kal El, can be explained by looking back at last year’s Finals – who picked Vegas to meet Washington?
      As great a season as Las Vegas had, they were definitely not expected to win the Western Conference. Nashville (best record in the league) and Winnipeg looked to be the top teams. They beat each other up and Vegas beat a tired Jets team.
      In the East, Tampa Bay (best record in the conference) lost to Washington after the Capitals beat two-time defending champions Pittsburgh.
      So, the top seed in both conferences lost, the defending champions lost, an expansion team went to the Finals for heaven’s sake!
      So, this year, Tampa Bay or one of the other fifteen teams in the playoffs? I’ll take the field, thanks, but that’s not hockey sense, it’s common sense.
      Sometimes you “hockey experts” really piss me off.

  12. Haglin to the Caps.
    Good move by Blake.
    Good pick up by the Caps.