NHL Rumor Mill – February 25, 2019

by | Feb 25, 2019 | Rumors | 93 comments

The 2019 NHL trade deadline is 3 pm ET today. Check out the latest on Mark Stone, Wayne Simmonds, Artemi Panarin, Jason Zucker, Jimmy Howard, and many more in the NHL rumor mill. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: No comments from me today as I’m busy writing other pieces on today’s deadline activity for Featurd and My NHL Trade Rumors. I’ll have a brief analysis of today’s noteworthy trades in the Soapbox following the deadline.

The trade tracker is also up and will be frequently updated as the deals go down. 

MARK STONE

OTTAWA SUN: Bruce Garrioch reports the waiting game between the Senators and right wing Mark Stone could go down to today’s 3 pm ET trade deadline. Barring a last-minute contract agreement, Stone is expected to be traded today. As many as eight contenders, including the Winnipeg Jets, Vegas Golden Knights, Boston Bruins, Calgary Flames, and Nashville Predators, are said to have varying degrees of interest. Senators winger Mikkel Boedker and defenseman Cody Ceci are also rumored to be available. 

THE ATHLETIC: (subscription required): Pierre LeBrun lists the Jets, Bruins, Flames, Predators among the Stone suitors, along (to a lesser degree) with the Golden Knights and New York Islanders. A source told LeBrun the Senators haven’t given any club permission to speak directly with Stone’s representatives. 

Philadelphia Flyers winger Wayne Simmonds could be on the move today (Photo via NHL Images)

WAYNE SIMMONDS

NBC SPORTS: John Boruk reports every indication suggests the Philadelphia Flyers will trading pending free agent winger Wayne Simmonds today. He’s been linked to the Predators, Jets, Tampa Bay Lightning, and Toronto Maple Leafs. Boruk also doesn’t rule out the Islanders, Montreal Canadiens, and Colorado Avalanche looking into Simmonds’ availability. Other Flyers who’ve also surfaced in trade rumors include defenseman Shayne Gostisbehere and winger Michael Raffl. 

TSN’s Frank Seravalli reports Flyers general manager Chuck Fletcher engaged in trade talks regarding Simmonds yesterday. He was waiting until the last minute to give his club time to claw their way back into the playoff race. Pierre LeBrun reports the Predators, Jets, and Lightning are among the possibilities. 

NBC SPORTS BOSTON: speculates the Bruins could also be among the clubs looking at Simmonds. 

ARTEMI PANARIN

NHL.COM: Tom Gulitti reports Columbus Blue Jackets GM Jarmo Kekalainen confirmed he’s received plenty of interest in pending UFA left wing Artemi Panarin but is downplaying the notion of trading him. Kekalainen insists Panarin remains a key part of their team.  “And as I’ve said, it would take a lot not only in the long term but in the short term as well to make that kind of trade. We’re not trading Artemi Panarin for draft picks.”

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH’s Michael Arace reports he believes the Blue Jackets are still shopping for a defenseman. He thinks a Panarin trade is “more likely than not”. He also thinks the Jackets could be interested in Florida Panthers center Derick Brassard. 

GRANLUND AND ZUCKER

THE ATHLETIC (subscription required): Michael Russo reports the Minnesota Wild might not be done dealing. Having already traded Nino Niederreiter and Charlie Coyle, Russo thinks it’s possible Mikael Granlund or Jason Zucker could be moved. League sources claim Wild GM Paul Fenton has shopped both players heavily to gauge their market value. The Nashville Predators, Fenton’s old team), is said to be very interested in Granlund. Russo wonders if a swap involving Predators winger Kevin Fiala as part of the return might be possible. 

ILYA KOVALCHUK

LOS ANGELES TIMES: Curtis Zupke reports Kings winger Ilya Kovalchuk hasn’t definitively answered if he’ll waive his no-movement clause. He said he told Kings GM Rob Blake to do whatever was best for the team. He said he and his family love living in Los Angeles. Blake, meanwhile, isn’t commenting until after today’s deadline has passed. 

JIMMY HOWARD

MLIVE.COM: Unless the Detroit Red Wings are willing to accept a second-round pick for goaltender Jimmy Howard, Ansar Khan doesn’t expect he’ll be moved today. The Wings asking price is said to be a first-rounder, which seems unlikely given the weak goalie market. 

MICHEAL FERLAND

NEWSOBSERVER.COM:  Chip Alexander reports the Carolina Hurricanes must decide if they’ll trade or retain pending UFA winger Micheal Ferland. He insists he wants to stay but is open for anything today. The Hurricanes remain non-committal and team owner Tom Dundon said all options remain on the table. 

OILERS

EDMONTON SUN: Jim Matheson believes the Oilers are likely to retain winger Alex Chiasson and attempt to re-sign him. GM Keith Gretzky is said to have “no stomach for taking a draft pick or another team’s B or C prospect for his top-six winger.” The Oilers would be willing to eat part of the salary-cap hit for winger Tobias Rieder or defenseman Alex Petrovic for draft picks. There’s also been some interest in winger Zack Kassian. 

TSN’s Ryan Rishaug reports it doesn’t sound like the Oilers have had any discussions with defenseman Kris Russell about waiving his no-movement clause. 

LEAFS

TORONTO SUN: Barring an eleventh-hour deal, Terry Koshan believes the Maple Leafs roster is likely set. They’ve been linked to Wayne Simmonds, Micheal Ferland, Chris Kreider, and Adam McQuaid, but GM Kyle Dubas has little appetite to move a roster player. If he does make a move, it could be for a lesser light such as Detroit Red Wings center Luke Glendening. 

CANADIENS

LE JOURNAL DE MONTREAL: Jean-Francois Chaumont reports Montreal Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin has no intention of sacrificing his top prospects or his first-round pick for a rental player. 

BLUES

THE ATHLETIC (subscription required): Jeremy Rutherford reports Blues GM Doug Armstrong finds the cost of the returns for the remaining rental players on the trade market to be too expensive. He also cited a source claiming the Blues aren’t among the suitors for New Jersey Devils winger Marcus Johansson. 







93 Comments

  1. Good morning

    Hey Lyle …

    not much to comment on that you have not all ready said on each of these players all ready over the past 2 months or better.. thank you for the opportunity and platform to discuss hockey with people of a like mind and passion for their team and sport…..been enjoying the site for 7 years now ….and this is the day I am sure everyone here looks forward to.

    enjoy the day

    Cheers …

    • Thanks, Kal El. Please feel free to weigh in with your thoughts on today’s rumors! 😉

      • LEAFS

        Did the Leafs overpay for Muzzin considering what Buffalo got for a minute eating right hand shot in Montour with one year left and less money ?
        Muzzin does have 2 cups on his resume though.

        I think the Leafs will pull off a deal that is of someone that has not been linked to them thus far …as most of the players that have been linked are going
        elsewhere….

        Iam still looking at Bogosian with Buffalo retaining some salary if possible …Bogoasian wil help in all 3 areas in one deal …toughness ..right shot and on D …all holes Leafs need to plug !

        CANES

        With how the Jackets have really plumped up I dont see how the Canes can get rid of Ferland now …with that said this is exactly the style player they would then have to trade for to compete for that last playoff spot or wild card ….makes no sense ..they are right there ….he has said he doe not want to go.
        Doesn’t make sens to move him….

        OILERS

        They need to start making deals here …these players will be worthless come off season ..get what you can and move forward and look to make a big time multi player trade at the draft !

        Trade dead line ….I think there may be some teams that over pay today …because of what the Jackets have done and how the market has been set …and especially because teams that are chasing the Bolts in the East and the Sharks in the West need to improve BIG TIME!

        I think some teams plans are out the window as they were really looking at getting either Stone Duchene Panarin Bobs and or Dzingle ….it has left these teams desparate to do something significant now !

        I.e….. PITT …Vegas…. Jets…. Boston …Flames

      • @Kal El
        Muzzin is a superior player to Montour who has looked unsure in his own end the games I have watched.

      • @ ds

        Thx …I have not seen much of Montour…but was evaluating the deal costs and needs …and was just thinking out loud on that …I love Muzzin before the deal was made …but Leafs still need that right shot D and was wandering if they maybe made the wrong deal if Montour was available !

      • Kal El

        Muzzin deal was fair; no questions.

        Montour deal (see my rant below) was a steal extraordinaire

        ds

        Concur w.r.t. Montour re: last 2 games. Many players have a rough couple of games.

        He was absolutley excellent at the beginning of the year; had a blip; then came back and played well. Last week— he fell out of favour of Murray for whatever reason— I stand firm on my contention that Murray lost huge in this deal; and Botteril stole one.

        GMJR should have jumped on this; Pens could miss the playoffs—- this was an opportune time to move on Montour; and for what the return was…. wow… GMJR failed and failed HUGE.

        Great move Botteril!!!

  2. Nice to see Garrioch echoing what I’ve been saying in here for the past few days, i.e., the Stone trade could go to the 11th hour today.

    It’s also a better than even chance both Boedker and Ceci are gone sometime today as both were held out of last night’s game against Calgary

    • that’s really going out on a limb … wow, give yourself a great big pat on the back

      • I was joking you a-hole. What do you do all day, walk around looking for a fight? Generally speaking, your contributions in here amount to a pile of crap.

      • His contributions add up to the same as FD’s you’re right George

    • @ George O

      I think they are doing exactly what they did with Karlsson…..he was to be gone at the 11th hour last year and they balked …pushing the limits to see what they could maximize…I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW what the 11th hour deal was for Karlsson last year that they turned down as opposed to what they really got.

      As I have maintained over the past few days …I really think that the Sens need to get young legit NHL players back in any Stone deal instead of draft picks and 1 B prospects …

      For some reason it seems as if Tolvanen stock has DROPPED BIG TIME!

  3. Although they now have a scary line able to compete with the TB Lightning, I find the Jackets Kekalainen strategy very risky. Retaining Panarin is a “coup-de-dé”. Anything can happen during playoffs so no certainty how far they go and he could definitely lose Bob, Duchene and Panarin to free agency, left with nothing at the end.

    I would definitely trade Panarin to a team that can give a comparable player back for example Florida and Huberdeau or Toronto for Nylander +. Easier said than done I agree but do he have a choice?

    • @ Louis
      Hoffman has one year left and would give the CBJ at least one more top 6 forward in the fold for next year.
      The entire world knows Panarin is not resigning there- Duchene+Dzingel+Hoffman should balance losing Panarin to Florid today ;-0

      • @ Louis & DS

        I think Hoffman could be the steal of trade dead line to the right team that really has a legit chance at going somewhere ….he has amazing hands and has a great knack for scoring goals …he is very underrated… IMO

      • There was a reason he was shuffled out of Ottawa, flipped immediately by SJ to Florida, and is now reportedly on the block there. Maybe all that natural talent is overshadowed by other factors.

      • @ Gerorge O

        Regardless of that …there are a tone of players that are not exactly the best personality …but this guy puts points on the board…..and not just hear and there …but pretty consistently through out a season and in big plays in a game when needed ….you could have said the same for Evander Kane ….but he has done well and has value just the same ….

        but I hear ya !

      • Oh, and before Fast Eddie chimes in with another dose of sarcasm, I wasn’t claiming any inside knowledge on Hoffman Kal El. But when a guy that can score goals like that is bounced around the way he’s been, and which could happen again today, you have to wonder if teams are regarding the distractions as more significant than his offensive contributions.

      • @ GEORGE O ….

        LMAO …I hear ya…

        Keep your elbows up in the corners..LOL

  4. Depending on the severity of the T Krug injury wonder if the Bruins look to add a Dman for depth …..Krug hasn’t made it thru the playoffs last two seasons

    • @ JOE

      If Iam reading between the lines on your post ….are you saying to bring back McQuaid without saying it …LMAO ?

      Cheers

      • Lol….Bingo

      • LOL ..might not be a bad idea ….

        as NYR4LIFE says ..go with the Devil you know

    • I’m OK with Krug injury he is an addition by subtraction. He doesn’t have speed and is brutal in his own zone. Counted no less then 7 times in the last two games forward closing in on him and take the puck off his stick. Blindly shots on the PP and on several occasion shoots the puck off the opposing player shin pad giving up a break away.
      Yes he can make some nice passes and has some offensive but his brutal play in his own end out weighs all the positive.

      • @ CAPER

        You just summed up the entire career of Jake Gardiner with the Leafs !!!

        ARgggggg

  5. There are no guarantees in life except death and taxes. Zuccarello injury a shame as I thought was going to be a coup or the TD. The Hockey gods are fickle

    Flames only have just less than 6m in cap space. Won’t be able to sign Stone unless Frolik moves. Next year Smith is free or signs for less. Tkachuk will need a big raise.

    I think a lesser deal. McQuaid Ceci and a depth forward

    • JACKETS

      acquire Kinkaid ….

      wow… really ..mmmmm ??
      Great pick up….but is this for this year or next when Bobs is gone ??

      Keko has done really well acquiring quality players and assets …great job again !

      • trade Bob after back to back shutouts…I will be very surprised if he is dealt

      • Kinkaid is also UFA after season.

      • So are Duchene and Dzingel. He has lots of negotiating ahead of him

  6. Steal of the draft has already happened IMO

    The kleptomaniac king IMO is Jason Botteril

    What he gave up to get an unbelievably cheap cap hit, RHD, young, who can log loads of minutes and can move the puck very well; with loads of potential, (with 2 more reasonable Cap hit years, and then still RFA)—- was unbelievable.

    Add to that, Buff is not going to make the playoffs this year,…..so that was a very bold move when other teams either on the bubble or vying to go deep; are looking for a RHD

    Without a doubt the big loser in this is Pens; and GMJR has so much egg on his face now; it is unfathomable.

    Montour on Pens is exactly what they needed. 3 D down already; so likely Prow has to come up (who I’ve been pleasantly waiting for) yet he’s not played a single NHL game yet.

    Montour under his “new” coach/ “current” GM; fell out of his favour.

    I’ve only watched about 15 An games so far this year. Up until the last 2, Montour looked very good . At the beginning of the season, he was excellent.

    So Murray, sold very low on him and Jason Botteril jumped on the opportunity.

    Some (maybe even many) of you, will not see what I see in Montour. What can’t be put aside is the fact that no matter how poorly he may have played lately; with the most recent injuries to Pens D; Montour would have slotted in immediately, as the 2nd best Dman on the team. Immediately.

    With the team currently outside a playoff spot; and at a high risk of missing the playoffs for the first time in over a decade—- this was a move that GMJR could not miss out on …. he did

    Not good

    Kudos abound for Jason Botteril and the Sabres. Great great great move.

    Montour would have also been a great add to Leafs. If Murray was that gung-ho to rid Montour for a 1st and this prospect; Leafs could have had Montour, IMO, for 1st (’20); Zaitz; and either Bracco OR Baptiste… and would have greatly rec’d replacing Zaitz; played better than Zaitz; and at a lower cap hit!!!!

    Dunh Dunh Dunh Da
    Dunh Dunh Dunh Da Da

    🙁

    • @ PENGY

      I agree …

      said this at Morning Coffee post …hence why I have just put it out there on weather or not the Leafs over paid for Muzzin ?

      I know you and I LOVE Muzzin and we both would have traded Nyalnder for him instead of having to give up the 1st and Grundtsrum and Durzi …Sabres stole him …agree!!!

      Pitt has no 1st rounder to offer for Montour …and nothing of quality in players that could have put that deal together unfortunately …hence my suggestion if Pitt needs to move out Malkin next year as per my post yesterday …you and I spoke of …they need to bring back multiple pieces and players in a deal to re structure this franchise …as its going to hell in a hand basket with NOTHING in the cup boards !

      • Hi Kal El

        Pitt does have their 1st still

        I had posted before that they should not move that first (as they would then not pick until he 4th round) unless it was for a good deal that brought back a player with term. This would have been the ideal deal…. RHD, young, very reasonable Cap; still under a good Cap hit for 2 more years. And… as at right now; would slot in as Pens second best D (due to Sat’s injuries to Letang and Dumo)

        GMJR missed out on this one.

        The Muzzin deal was fair; and still is a fair deal.

        Muzzin is a better player now (and is much bigger and tougher than Montour). It’s hard to compare a fair deal to a steal. Botteril absolutely stole this deal, IMO.

        Muzzin has one more year left (then UFA) at a very fair cap hit. Muzzin brings size, grit, sense, maturity to the Leafs. Deal was fair.

        Just looking at the Montour deal now; I truly believe that he could have been had by Leafs for 1st (’20), AND An taking on Zaitz; plus Bracco or Baptiste

        Just the fact that Montour would be replacing Zaitz is worth the 1st and one of Bracco/Baptiste. Add to that my belief that Montour has a load of upside— that is gravy

        Heard on the Radio ; that there was scuttlebutt w.r.t. moving Phill? I find that extremely hard to believe… he’s got a limited pool of teams on his trade list; and since this is D-Day; that is one hell of a deal to pull off in one day (as we’ve heard nothing about this all year)????

        Well, crazier things have happened.

        Sad day for me 🙁

        …. and I’m going to miss most of the excitement because I’m packed with meetings today. I’ve have to rely on either my staff or son’s to text me updates…. ahhhhh!!!!

      • Pittsburgh has all of their first round picks in consecutive years including the 2019 one. I thought this was your “de facto” team? Getting Montour would have cost the Pens first round pick and Calen Addison. Not sure how I feel about that. If Sullivan and Rutherford were actually able to evaluate their roster properly they would achieve a lot more by getting rid of the useless players that they trot out every game. Johnson, Wilson, Pearson, Cullen, Ruhwedal are super easy to replace and it would make all the difference in the world. Here’s hoping Rutherford can get a dman from the Canucks and not give up anything ridiculous to do it because there are no other dmen avaliable that are worth a damn. He missed out on a lot of good players. I hope he’s not going to bring in another Hainsy or Lovejoy type and hope for anything short Of a disaster.

      • Pitt has no 1st rounder this year?

        Do you just spout off- just to do so…

        Or do you ever look into some of the BS you “think” you “know”??

    • Hi George,

      Hoping you can help here.

      I’m not getting the Gibbons/Sieloff trade. Am I missing something?

      Melnyk who seems to be going massively tight on the purse strings; just traded for a UFA that he has to pay at an annual rate $875K more than the player he is giving up? So this trade, for the balance of the year costs the Sens an extra $210K; AND he’s UFA, Seiloff had one more year?????

      Looking at CapFriendly, it appears that he has no problem reaching the Cap floor for this year?

      What am I missing?

      Thanks in advance for your answer

      Pengy

      • @ Pengy

        I will wait till George answers and then I will chime in …

      • It’s all probably associated with the depth charts and pecking order. In Ottawa are Chabot, Borowiecki, Harpur, Jaros, DeMelo, Ceci, Wolanin,

        In Belleville and in the ECHL are Max Lajoie, Jordan Murray, Stuart Percy, Stefan Elliott, Eric Burgdoefer, Andreas Englund,, Cody Goloubef, Julius Bergman, Chris Carlyle, Jonathan Racine, Alex Breton and Just Falk. And at North Dakota U is top D prospect Jacob Bernard-Docker who, it seems, might well decided to turn pro next season (it wouldn’t surprise me to see him get an “audition” with the Sens towards the end of this season).

        That’s a boatload of D for whom to find ice-time and I think Seiloff just dropped down enough in the pecking order to make him expendable in a move to bring in a veteran F of the type that Boucher seems to like. I’m also sure Ceci goes today, so maybe someone like Englund gets a look – unless a D is coming back in the Stone deal. Lots of moving parts.

      • my guess is warm bodies with no term in the Sens lineup. Their farm team, Belleville, is in the hunt for a playoff spot and they want to build a winning culture somewhere in the organization. Leave the kids on the farm, let them progress the rest of the year without the black cloud hanging over there head.
        as an FYI , Sieloff was the player that nuked MacArthur in training camp a couple of years ago.

      • It’s an ok trade but the Ducks got Brendan Guhle and a first round pick, that is a really really nice haul actually. Guhle is younger but he will be a top 6 dman on the Ducks as soon as next year plus they get a first round pick in a deep draft in the teens likely. Good deal for both teams long term.

      • @ PENGY …and then George

        REPRISE ON Pengys question

        ….you may find interesting!\

        Id be curious to see what you think as well.

        First off …..This move will actually save the Sens almost $500,000 after this year if Iam not mistaken …as Seilof has another year at $700,000…and they just dont want him or his money next year and most likely let Gibbons walk at year end UFA…

        HOWEVER ….I really want to see if Erik Karlsson signs a deal here with San Jose …as he is now open to doing so !!

        I would not be surprised AT ALL….. if Mark Stone resigns with OTT …that Erik Karlsson may resign with OTT too…..call me crazy …but we will see !

      • Some people seem to have “multiple” teams, yet can’t get the facts straight for even 1 of them…

    • Pengy…wow Montour hell we could have done that…..

      Hearing Phil Kessel is in play as we chatted about the other day now’s the time…

      heard penguins in on Codi Ceci gaining momentum!

      Maybe Vegas for Kessel? (on Hockeybuzz this morning)

      We need to go big if we are moving Kessel which I think we should Kessel, Pearson, our number one pick, Tristan Jarry, Dominik Simon all solid assets.

      Minnesota would be a good trading partner..

      Jason Zucker& Jared Spurgeon to Pittsburgh

      Phil Kessel, Rikola and our number one pick to Minnesota.

      Go pens!

      I’m recording all the morning hockey central shows and NHL today so when i get home can watch exciting day Rutherford’s going for it i like that…

      • You are out of your mind
        No way not going to happen

      • @BlacknGold

        I think a more manageable offer would be

        to MIN: Pearson, Jarry, 2019 1st rd pick, & prospect Addison.

        to PIT: Spurgeon & Foligno

      • Zucker and Spurgeon?!?!?! For Kessel, Riiko AND a first. Pens give up the best player and a first? No, no, no

        And Hockeybuzzs beat writers for each team have their good ones and their bad ones but you can never believe a word that Dwayne Klessel writes starting with that his name is Eklund.

      • I hate Crosby…yeah your offer sounds pretty good too.. I am more interested in Jason Zucker than Foligno….then add Spurgeon….

        they should go hard after those two this summer and unload Kessel he is starting to decline as well and making stupid decisions.. since Pearson is gone.

        Kessel,, Jarry. Matta To Minnesota

        Zucker Spurgeon to Pittsburgh

    • Pengy….. Well not the most exciting trade deadline but getting 6ft 5 220lb d-man Grudbrason and Chris Weidman right handed puck moving d-man not too bad…we kept our number one pick…..

      Dumolin and Letang both encouraging news today they are listed day to day which is better than weeks…

      When all are healthy it should be:

      1. Letang- Dumolin

      2. Schultz Gudbrason

      3. Weidman Pettersson

      if they let Jack Johnson anywhere near the ice ill blow up PPG….:)

      Johnson Rikola Rudwhedel Matta in reserve

    • Pengy………. What a boring deadline nothing to exciting but Rutherford did OK acquiring two decent d-men.. Once Letang and Dumolin are healthy and they are day to day which is good news… it should be

      letang Dumolin

      Schultz Grudbrason

      Weidman Pttersson

      Johnson should never touch the ice and Rikola Rudwhedel and Prow in reserve..

  7. Ok.

    Flames should really trade for Anderson, he looked great against them. That extra year is scaring people though.

    send Ceci to the Blue Jackets too….we’ll take their back up goal scoring canon, or a broken drink machine.

    the Chiasson quote from Gretzky is hysterical “top six winger” wow dude. ANYONE would be a top 6 six forward playing with McHeadshot. Chiasson is a borderline AHL player who’s had a lucky season.

    At this point the Stone drama can just end. Even if he stays the damage is done between ownership and fans. I cancelled my season tickets last year, I won’t be buying them again until there’ s a new “majority” owner. I can’t even buy a jersey with a name on it…they won’t be staying.

    • I’ve been saying they’re out of here within 4 years – certainly the wheels will start turning once Melnyk gets his cut of the Seattle expansion.

  8. Alex Martinez is exactly what the Flames need.
    Still predict Simmonds in Toronto and
    Hayes in Wpg

    Sens should go with no name bars as a team policy

    • @ Silver Seven

      I think the Flames are all in on Stone and just waiting for the leaves to fall where ever they may …and awaiting on Dorions ….FINAL answer !

      I love your D core ….Martinez will only add to your cap hit that will give you fits when trying to resign Tkachuck …not needed with what you have …a UFA plug in would be better for the run and let them walk away next year.
      I dont see them resigning Smith for any reason …dont have the cash !

      Frolik is def an odd man out !

    • Silverscreen…Did Alec Martinez go to Calgary? I didn’t see that one…????

  9. Reportedly Boston missed out on JT, Kovalchuk, Dzingle and last night Nyquist. Have to give Sweeney credit for being invited to the dance but left with no one to dance with.
    This morning I’m hearing there in on Simmonds the ask is a 1st and high end prospect. If that’s the price better off adding another prospect and go after Stone or better again see if you can pull Kreider out of NY or Pay less and get Hoffman from Florida.

    • A Kreider/McQuaid trade to the Bruins…make it happen Sweeney …..Dreaming

    • The intersection of where …money business and life cross.

      Great piece of raw emotion on what the word TEAM means in pro sports…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67y8FWJy8M8

      Tough one …maybe Zuccs resigns for a shorter term to head back ..

      • Kal, I hope Dallas kept thier receipt!

      • Hey FD with another great hockey comment!

    • @ caper

      Not sure if you want to hear from me……but ..
      out of all those players you mentioned I think you can get Hoffman for the least and he will give you the most out put in points especially with the skill you have on the top 2 lines …he is NOT a 3rd line guy he needs to play with top tier players to produce or he will be a waste !

      I have to admit Id love the Leafs to upgrade with him as well…..it sounds as if it is more of a salary dump …you dont give up a player like this for any other reason …IMO

      • @ GEORGE O

        Sounds as if Dorion is asking the WORLD for Stone.

        Jets seemed to be the big buyer on him …but as Bobby Mac reports Jets now picking up Hayes which means they are out on Stone …I thought if there was any one team that would fork over the asking price or at least as close as you could get it would have been the Jets !

      • @Kal El always happy to hear from you Kal, not always going to agree, be a boring site if we did. I think at one point or anther disagreed with everyone on here, as long as it doesn’t get into name calling I’m good. As long as you don’t mind being challenged from time to time.

        I like Kreider or Hoffman for the two reason they’re good and they have term. Yes I agree I believe Hoffman was cost less but I be willing to pay more for Kreider.

      • Kal El – if there was one team in the mix for Stone that was never going to fork over $10 mil per it was the Jets.

      • @ Caper

        All good….

        The Rangers are clearing out players….. they are going to need players back in some deals so it may cost you the 2019first and an active roster top player.

        The Rangers are obviously gearing up to throw the bank out at Panarin in the off season …

        Its funny the West for the last decade used to be the most feared to play due to the size and skill …but the East is very much moving faster in the direction of FAST SKILLED and ELITE players

  10. Odds that anyone trades for the worst contract in the NHL?
    8,625,000 Corey Perry. 3 more years.

    • @ ds & NYR4life

      @ ds & NYR4LIFE

      Good grab the Rangers ….

      If anyone read my posts yesterday I had B Lemieux as one of my wants yesterday on my wish list …as I figured he would be on his way out for cap purposes …as he has been up and down so he would be the first to go !

      I love this player though …he would have been a solid asset for my Leafs has he is a similar style player to a Tom Wilson ..not there but as close as you can get !

      pissed off …f%$@#

    • @ ds

      I will be brutally honest here ….

      If I was Ottawa ..id take that deal instead of Lucic as we all spoke about yesterday !

      Perry will be back and even if he is half the player he once was ..which I think he will be better than that …he is still a better overall investment than Lucic for the term and money !

      that would be a solid play by the SENS!!

      Perry NMC may be an issue ..but never know….

  11. WPG getting Hayes for basically a 2nd rd pick is good for them and bad for NY. Hope Lemieux can play top 6 and produce. NY already has a bunch of bottom 6 that are underachieving and vanish on ice. Namestikov and Vesey are just two examples. Perhaps getting Lemieux is to give NY flex to trade another away.

    With WPG getting Hayes I still contend they should offer Laine to OTT for Stone and then ink both Hayes and Stone long term.

    They can figure their D and that cap space later. Hayes and Stone together would look good on the 2nd line behind Wheeler and Schef on the 1st.

    Really shocked only a low rd 1st (high 2nd) for Hayes. Sheesh.

    • Winnipeg is NOT trading Laine. Furthmore to suggest to trade him for a ufa.

      Brendan Lemieux and a 1st, it’s not and early second it’s a late1st round pick. Lemieux is an NHL player, plays a lot like his Dad, with questionable hits and probably has a couple more suspensions in his game. He has 9 games in limited action mainly playing on the fourth line. Ranger fans will like this player imo.

      • Why is it so crazy top suggest to trade Laine for Stone, and then to turnaround and sign Stone? It is very plausible.

        Lemiux may work if several other bottom 6 Rangers are being traded away. NYR needs to build their top 6.

      • The teams willing to give up even a late 1st for Hayes was always limited. CBJ were out. Boston holding on to their 1st… Preds needed a winger more. Calgary made sense…curious to see their move.

        I am sure many a GM questioned why the Rangers only gave him a 1 one year deal this summer… a big two way center in his prime.

      • @ ds

        The 1 year deal for Hayes……

        is because the Blue shirts are going to throw the bank at Panarin !

        They have a few possible Centers in the mix all ready and need every penny

    • As I said above, there is NO way the Winnipeg franchise will give Stone the $10 mil + he’s already been offered in Ottawa. They are a small-market team who have traditionally been ultra-careful with their cap salaries and, at the moment, their highest paid players are Wheeler ($8,250,000 which kicks in next season), Byfuglien ($7,600,00), Hellebuyck ($6,166,000), Scheifele ($6,125,000), Ehlers ($6 mil), with Trouba an RFA at $5.5 mil and Myers a UFA at $5.5 mil).

      So, already committed next year is $34,141,000 for 5 players plus your have Trouba ($5.5 mil and an RFA) and Myers ($5.5 mi and a UFA) to deal with. Just considering their combined $11 mil now, that’s $45,141,000 for 7 players next season which will certainly be closer $50 mil once the Trouba and Myers contracts are finalized (IF they’re finalized there). So, with around 30 mil with which to sign 14 players to ice a full 21, how will that work if they tried to retain Stone at $10 mil. Was never going to happen there.

      • @ George O

        Do you think that the jets are going to give Lanie

        $10 million +

      • I forgot to mention Laine – he’s not having a great season so what do they do? Gamble that it was the equivalent of a brain-fart and that everything will be back to normal next season and give him a huge long-term deal? or do they try and bridge him at a manageable $5 mil range?

  12. Aaaaaa ……COME ON LEAFS !!!

    ….you have Bogosian in the building for petes sake

    …LMAO …make the deal…

    Gardiner a 2020 second and call it a day and go have a few beers !

    • Kal be careful of what you wish for. BOGO used to be one of my favorites, all the skill in the world except one… Hockey IQ.

      When he was in Winnipeg I use to say his problem was he would go where the play was and not were the play was going. Constantly got out of position and was always injured. With that said haven’t watch him much in Buffalo maybe he was a late learner.

      • @ Caper

        I hear ya ….

        I have a ten pack of games each year in Buffalo….mainly due to that it is way to expensive to see all my fav teams at Scotia bank place ….

        So I have seen Bogosian live a bit this year…he has calmed his game down quite a bit …he makes a very decent first pass out of zone …plus hes a mean Mother trucker at times and he is a right shot D …it really checks off the needs in one player for teh Leafs if they just want to do something rather minor and not have to delete ….and he will FOR SURE UPGRADE on Gardiner and Zaitsev…

        I can tell you that for sure …Bogosian does not take ANY CRAP and you need to be aware with him on the ice …he will make you pay if your not paying attention ….Leafs have NO ONE to do that on D let alone on D where it is most important !

        I really think he would be a quality investment if only for this year and next …and allow him to walk at end of 2nd year …I am really serious …leafs are wayyyyyy to soft on the back end and he would fit the bill and also allows you flexibility in a years time not to have to commit long term so you can finally slide in Sandin and another piece after Hainesy and Gardiner and Ozhaganov leave

        Bogosian has been really rock steady and healthy the later portion of this year …as ell he will be a mid depth D man and penalty kill guy ….so not to crazy liability overall!

        Id rather have Bogosian for one year less and equal money than the suggested and rumored Dougie Hamilton just for flexibility purposes in year 2 as opposed to year 3 where Leafs will need it

      • @ CAPER

        What ever happened to Jimmy Hayes …

        He had a few solid years in Florida/ Boston and then pooof …gone …he was doing really well…decent hands and a big boy also ?

  13. If Stone was offered 8 for 8 that would be 9 for any other team. Is he getting 10 ? That would be a narrow field in which to resign.

    The Sens might get Tavaresed if not careful

    • ^^^^^THIS^^^^

      • Hey…. Lyle ….

        Can you try to explain to me why the Canes and Panthers made to separate deals only a few minutes apart both including future considerations …but ending up swapping players in two different deals as opposed to just trading the players straight up ?????

        Iam confused ?….is it a money thing or a 50 man contract thing ..what is it ?

        Thanks in advance!

      • Probably related to salary-cap or roster-limit. No one’s explained it yet.

  14. 22 months ago the Sens were 1 win from a Cup appearance

    Assuming Stone is gone today…. their entire 6 D is not with the organization any longer… out of the 18 skater main roster from the run only Pageau, Smith, Ryan and Ceci remain.

    Has a team ever had this drastic of a changeover in such a short time? Its insane

    • @ ds

      I really think the answer to your question was who ….not what …

      With all due respect…. I think the passing of
      Bryan Murray was a silver bullet to this organization …

      I think he had full control on this organization and was able to keep Melnyk at bay …not to mention a good Hockey guy !

      I have a really close friend who is a Sens fan and watch games together and a few years back I remember telling him how jealous I was with the depth of this organization 2 – 3 years ago….they looked like they had done an amazing job at scouting drafting and trading along with a decent product on the ice …they looked like they would be a powerhouse for e few years….
      I agree …I think though they miss Murray and Luc Richardson in the mix …and not taking care of a guy like Karlsson has sent the wrong message to up and coming players…..thats my take anyways

      • H O L Y …C B J …& McQuaid ….

        This goes to show how important Playoff revenue is !

  15. This is the worse Xmas ever !

  16. have a feeling the Senators waited too long to pull the trigger , Jets , Flames , Preds dropped out and McPhee told Dorion this all you are getting , Dorion had not time to reset with the clock ticking down.
    Brannstrom is an excellent prospect but I can’t believe a 1st ( even if a conditional ) did not change hands.
    I am not a hard core Sens fan but I live in Ottawa and sense people are going to be livid , especially after watching Karlsson, Duchene, Dzingel leaving town.

    • I disagree in the future sens fans could be saying brannstrom was a steal, he is just that good

      • BBB, totally agree Brannstrom is a great add, was impressed with him @ the WJC this past year.
        The part that bites is that players and leaders like Stone are hard to come across. In listening to a radio interview with Stone just a couple of minutes ago I get the sense that ‘ownership commitment to winning’ was what drove his decision to leave.

      • I agree they definitely will have to sign some free agent vets this offseason

    • I’ve heard a couple of the talking heads on the various panels describe Brannstrom as one of the 10 best prospects not yet in the NHL. We’ll soon see. At least the 2020 2nd round er belonged to Dallas so where that will sit next year is based upon what kind of season Dallas has as a team next year. They’re a cusp team now. Don’t know much about their system but there a few guys on their roster who have long passed their best-before dates. Naturally, Ottawa will hope that they fall down the ladder significantly next season.

  17. Nashville did well. Took on some extra money in Granlund and Simmonds and only gave up Fiala and Hartman .

    Playoffs are going to exciting. several teams with a shot. SJ Wpg and Nash are all tough in the west. East Bolts and everyone else
    Bruins Jackets Caps Leafs. There is usually an upset or two.