NHL Rumor Mill – February 8, 2019

by | Feb 8, 2019 | Rumors | 86 comments

Latest on the Leafs, Hurricanes, and Ducks plus updates on Artemi Panarin, Ilya Kovalchuk, Tyson Barrie, and more in today’s NHL rumor mill. 

SUGGESTED DESTINATIONS FOR PANARIN

THE ATHLETIC (subscription required): Craig Custance suggested the Nashville Predators, Toronto Maple Leafs, Boston Bruins, Calgary Flames, and New York Islanders as trade destinations for Columbus Blue Jackets left wing Artemi Panarin. Custance acknowledged the asking price for a talented rental like Panarin would be expensive but worth the risk for those clubs. 

Artemi Panarin would be a very attractive trade target but the Columbus Blue Jackets will set a high asking price (Photo via NHL Images).

Based on discussions with a league executive and a scout, Custance’s colleague Fluto Shinzawa speculates acquiring Panarin could cost the Bruins their first-round pick, either Ryan Donato or Urho Vaakainen and Trent Frederic. 

TSN: Pierre LeBrun believes the Predators and Bruins checked on Panarin but had a bit of sticker shock regarding the Jackets’ asking price. As the trade deadline nears, he thinks that price could drop, especially if Ottawa’s Matt Duchene or Mark Stone hit the trade block. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: If the Jackets move Panarin (and that still remains an “if” at this point), they’ll want a significant return even if Duchene or Stone end up on the trade market. I don’t see general manager Jarmo Kekalainen budging from a first-round pick and either two top prospects or a top prospect and a promising roster player.

The Leafs and Flames might prefer a more physical (and affordable) scoring forward like Philadelphia’s Wayne Simmonds or Carolina’s Micheal Ferland. The Isles could be interesting as they might have an eye on re-signing Panarin. 

LATEST ON THE DUCKS

NICHOLS ON HOCKEY: Appearing on Montreal’s TSN 690, Darren Dreger poured cold water on the possibility of the Montreal Canadiens (or another club) prying defenseman Cam Fowler away from the Anaheim Ducks. He said he was told Fowler “wasn’t available or highly unlikely” to be moved. While Ducks GM Bob Murray could have a move up his sleeve before the trade deadline, Dreger doesn’t expect he’ll consider moving a young defenseman. 

Frank Seravalli recently updated the TSN trade-bait list by replacing the recently-traded Brian Boyle with Ducks center Adam Henrique, who sits 15th on the list. Henrique has recently come up in trade chatter. He signed a five-year contract extension last summer that kicks in this summer. The new contract also comes with a modified no-trade clause so the upcoming trade deadline will be one of the Ducks’ final opportunities to move Henrique without hindrance.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: With the Ducks in free-fall in the standings (dropping 18 of their last 20 games), Murray is expected to be a seller leading up to the deadline. Fowler has a modified no-trade with a four-team trade list so I doubt he’ll be going anywhere.

Some folks in the media noted Montreal Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin was scouting the Ducks and assumed Fowler was his target. Maybe he’s looking instead at Henrique? The Canadiens have the cap space to absorb his $5.825-million cap hit on his new contract. Henrique, who can play center or wing, might be a good fit with the improving Habs.

LEAFS SCOUTING HURRICANES?

TSN: Pierre LeBrun reported a source saw Toronto Maple Leafs assistant GM Laurence Gilman taking in the Carolina Hurricanes-Buffalo Sabres game. He wondered if the Leafs are interested in one of the Hurricanes’ right-shot defenseman or left wing Micheal Ferland. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Can’t rule anything out, I suppose. I still think the Leafs aren’t done dealing before the trade deadline. Remains to be seen if they’ll swing a deal with the Hurricanes. 

COULD KOVALCHUK BE TRADED?

TSN: Pierre LeBrun believes Los Angeles Kings winger Ilya Kovalchuk would be open to waiving his no-movement clause to go to a playoff contender for the right fit. He’s got two years remaining on his contract with a $6.25-million annual cap hit on a front-loaded deal, which could make him a tough sell to contenders. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Maybe if the Kings are willing to pick up part of that cap hit that might make Kovalchuk a little more attractive. He’s put up decent numbers (11 goals, 26 points in 44 games) on the low-scoring Kings. 

LATEST ON HAYES

NICHOLS ON HOCKEY: Appearing on Montreal’s TSN 690, Darren Dreger suggested New York Rangers center Kevin Hayes could be a player the Minnesota Wild or Winnipeg Jets should be looking at, considering him a good fit with either club. Hayes is slated to become a UFA this summer. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: If the Wild keep sliding in the standings, they could go from buyers to sellers. The Jets, on the other hand, need a good second-line center and Hayes could fit the bill. 

COULD THE AVALANCHE MOVE BARRIE?

THE DENVER POST: In a recent mailbag segment, Mike Chambers said he believes there’s a “very good chance” the Colorado Avalanche trade defenseman Tyson Barrie at the Feb. 25 trade deadline. With promising right-shot defensemen Conor Timmins and Cale Makar coming on board soon, Chambers believes Barrie’s $5.5-million salary cap hit through next season makes him the odd man out. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Barrie surfaced in the rumor mill in the past but this time could be different. Chambers notes the Avs are very excited about Timmins and Makar. Wouldn’t surprise me if they at least gauge Barrie’s value in the trade market. They could also wait until the offseason to move him. 







86 Comments

  1. Re: Craig Custance suggestions that Leafs may be in on Panarin— how is this possible at all?

    Leafs are not in need of scoring…. D and grit; but an extra super-scorer; that just does not make any sense. AND… Panarin on Leafs would 100% be a rental.

    In addition, Leafs cannot take on that contract w/o basically equal $’s going out the door as they have to keep cap space to eat up the performance bonus pool that just cannot be moved to next year’s hit.

    Even with a 50% take-back (which would mean more expected in return on the trade, from Leafs) ;that’s $3.0M in annual Sal coming in; and therefore close to that going out— who would be leaving?

    Just don’t see that move

    I think a move by NYI to get Panarin, would be prudent. They certainly don’t have the inside track on re-signing him; but would have a better than average chance in that New York meets two of his publicly pondered key desires…. big city, large Russian population. Advantage, but not by any chance a certainty.

    I think everything starts to move very quickly after Ottw has either a concrete decision (not signing) or an actual signing of one or both of Duchene or Stone.

    If it was me; I’d put all efforts first into Stone. Fan fav, always been a Sen, younger, bigger, and IMO, would make a great Captain.

    Tomorrow night’s match-ups of Leafs/Habs and Pens/Bolts will not only be very exciting to watch for me; but the outcomes could also be a key impetus in some potential upcoming moves.

    Huge regulation wins by Habs or Bolts could force Dubas’ and/or Rutherford’s hands.

    Jim , Oh Jim, please please please, do NOT have same lines as last night; and I’m absolutely begging you; if you have to play JJ (I think you should not play him at all); but if you have to; it absolutely must be bottom pairing, no special teams and must be <10mins. Has to be !!!

    Go Leafs Go
    Go Pens Go

    • sorry RE: “Leafs are not in need of scoring…. D and grit; ”

      “D and grit…” should have been followed by “are what is needed”.

      🙁 quick typing, fat fingers, small screen , weak eyes; not had my Tim’s—- all of the above 🙁

      • Pengy I agree in the fact TO needs D depth and more grit upfront. However, you can’t rule out the fact Matthews is not being utilized to his full potential having a linemate likes of Marleau who shift after shift is a dead weight that drags Matthews down. Highly skilled player must have highly skilled linemate to compliment each other. Panarin fits that profile. Reminds me of Kane and Panarin in Chicago days where they dominated in the O-zone night after night. We have a very high octane line in Hyman/Tavares/Marner but Marleau/Matthews/Kapanen Not so much. If you replace Marleau with Panarin in that line it will be very SCARY. This means obviously trading Nylander and his 7mill contract and moving Markeau’s $6.25mill. I rather have Panarin at $10 mill than have Nylander/Marleau at $13.5mill. Now you have the best 1 2 lines in all of hockey. After that, I would solidify a third line with Moore/Johnsson/Bracco. This line was the go-to line that won the AHL championship past year. This means Kadri is expendable for solid D man in a trade. I would also trade Gardiner/Zaitsev ASAP and promote Justin Holl at D paring with Dermott. They were rock solid with the Marlies throughout the playoffs last year. With all the subtractions, you can definitely afford Panarin for foreseeable future.

        Panarin/Matthews/Kapanen
        Hyman/Tavares/Marner
        Moore/Johnnson/Bracco
        (Ennis)/(Lindholm)/(Goat)

        Rielly/McQuaid
        Muzzin/Gudas
        Dermott/Holl

        Andersson/Hutchinson

        Out:

        Nylander (7m)
        Marleau (6.25m)
        Kadri ($4.5m)
        Gardiner ($4m)
        Zaitsev ($4.5m)
        Brown ($2m)
        Hainsey ($3m)

        Total $31.25m out the door.

        In:

        Panarin ($9-$10m) 5 years
        Kapanen ($3.5m) 3 years
        Johnnson ($3.5m) 3 years
        Gudas ($3.35m) 2020
        McQuaid ($2.75m) 2020
        Holl ($750k) 3years

        Total less than $24mills

        100% better lineup.

        Go Leafs Go

      • Do you guys even watch the Leafs Bracco barely played in the playoffs last year for the Marlies

      • Hi Mike fully agree on most of your assertions

        Re:Panarin …. next year maybe.

        the reporter was positioning Panarin as a possible Leaf by trade deadline (TDL)…. IMO …. virtually impossible for Panarin as a Leaf by TDL

        Your cap moves could work in July …. impossible to move WW this year (Cap $10.2M) and about 99.9% impossible to move Marleau (he has full power in move) before July 2nd

        Your overall moves would of course be extremely difficult to make just due to sheer magnitude and probability …. but your roster as proposed if viable ; sits IMO , with a much stronger prob of success…. I wish moves could be made much more easily … LOL

        BTW …. the Zaitsev albatross contract will be extremely difficult to move and will, IMO cost precious assets

        Dubas, over the next 6 months will earn his keep

        He is basically testricted to “Cap for Cap” trades by TDL as he has to keep $’s avail for Perf. bonuses (which absolutely canNOT go into next year)

        Cheers

  2. With reports yesterday by Lyle that the Habs were looking hard at Fowler …it actually might make better sense to go after Tyson Barrie instead if he is as available as they report here ….it will cost less and possibly be the better fit as per style of player they need Fowler is at $6.5 for 7 more years Barrie is $5.5 for only 1 more year ….that makes a lot more sense at this point for the Habs if thy so choose to go that route …IMO as per yesterdays posts ….

    An interesting team to watch is the SHARKS…they have been on fire lately …and with the potential to have Karlson through this years playoffs with Joe Thornton as well I could see Doug Wilson doing something that really gives them a serious injection …The Ducks and Kings are terrible so San Jose will not have to go through either one of them and leave them as one of the top 3 teams to come out of the West …Wilson sees a possible end to an era and may look to swing for the fences with this team right now ..while he has all these players such as Pavelski Karlsson and Thornton on the books

    • The Wild are the team to watch now, I think. They have some good deadline pickup possibilities – Staal, Dumba, etc. – and, after the loss of Koivu, they must be considered sellers this year.
      Eric Staal would fit the bill in Winnipeg, that’s for sure.

      • BCLeafs Fan

        Yep Yep and more Yep

        E Staal would be a great pick up for many teams.

        I’d love to see him on the Pens. Last night’s debacle was scary. Staal at 3C on Pens would certainly make lines much better.

        It would have to be players moving out though.

        🙂

      • E Staal has needed ice time to produce. He could get buried in Pittsburgh or maybe I just have bad memories of him being the third line LW for the Rangers and sucking hard

      • Wild will be interesting BCLeafFan, but I think Dumba is still out for a while. Had Surgey just after xmas that was expected to keep him out 3 months.
        Which makes it even harder for them to hang on to a playoff spot.

      • Staal to Jets would fit the bill, Petan and a pick? Dumba is recovering from surgery to repair a torn pec, tough injury to recover from.

    • I don’t doubt that SJ would want to swing for the fences and try to make a run this year. They don’t have much cap space though, and also don’t have their 1st round picks in 2019 or 2020 which might make it difficult to land any major players without some serious juggling.

      • Sharks have to be all in for sure. Their team could look completely different next season

    • Agree Kal El

      currently 9 players either UFA or RFA for Sharks.

      I’d be hesitant in beleiveing both Joe’s back next year. Neither back is a possibiity (that’s $11 M freed up).

      An all in move, with this narrow window, a good chance IMO

      They are more than likely NOT going to have a first rounder until ’22 as at now; so a big move would likely mean that a few young prospects would be moved.

    • Don’t see the Sharks doing anything drastic. Maybe a veteran player with wheels to shore up PK.

    • Kal El, Habs are more keep on a top 4 LD, while Barrie plays RD. Not to say he wouldn’t be a great pickup for the Habs (or anyone else), but I think they’ll go for a LD, if anyone.

    • Habs need LD.
      Fowler is LD

      I would prefer Lindholm (LD).

      Barrie is RD.

      Think that says it all.

  3. How are the sharks regarding the Cap?

    • Hi OBD

      Per CapFreindly

      Cap space:

      “projected” $1.15 M
      “Current” $3.67M
      “Deadline “$5.33M

      Not sure how CF defines each …. anybody here know?

      • Oops

        Sorry Kev Jam

        Typing at same time as you

        I’m just so much slower tho

      • Don’t worry about it. It’s all good.

      • They can currently take on a $3.67 contract (not prorated), at the deadline they could take on a $5.33M contract or combination of contracts (again, not prorated).

        This is my understanding at least.

        They also have a potential of another almost $1.5M to payout in performance bonuses so the have to consider that as well.

      • Pengy…the Penguins desperately need another top 4 defender to pair with the returning Schultz… Matta can move to the 3rd pair and help solidify young Marcus Pettersson.

        My two choices are:
        Anaheim is sinking like the Titanic and cant score goals.

        Tanner Pearson 25 + a 5th round pick to Anaheim $3.75 million

        Dman Brandon Montour 26 to Pittsburgh $3.85 million

        Ages are the same and salaries almost identical and a pick sweetens the pot for Anaheim.

        OR Erik Gustafsson 26, $1.2 to Pittsburgh.

        Tristan jarry plus a 5th round pick to Chicago?????

        Hard thing is teams like Carolina and Chicago have now crept back in to the playoff hunt so less likely to deal.

      • NO CHANCE:

        T.Pearson + 5th rd pick DOES NOT COME CLOSE TO LANDING:

        Montour

        Try to keep the proposals half- realistic, if you can.

        WAY OUT IN LEFT FIELD

      • Hi BlackNGold

        I don’t know anything about Gustuffsson

        I’d love to have Montour on Pens line-up

        He’d be coveted by many teams

        However, unfortunately En4Sir has it right wrt Montour value in trade involving Pearson

        $’s close but value for the dollars is very very favoured to Montour

        Pearson has under performed substantially for his contract value

        Yes for sure Pens could very well benefit from a D upgrade ….and if GMJR is trying to send Pearson in the trade I would not be surprised if Ducks starting request in picks is a 1st;

        Montour is very good

        The trouble with Pens defence is more on the decisions of who to dress and pairings and minutes

        Sully has blinders on wrt JJ

        I know I rag on about this …. but I truly believe that while Shultz is out and since we got Petterson ; if the D had nightly been Letang, Dumo , Maata, Petterson , Riikola and Jamie O….., not playing JJ… then Pens would have had at a minimum 2 extra wins ….4 points in the tight Metro!!!

        Playing him last night as 2nd pairing and for over 20 minutes …, is absolutely crazy

        I know Deee disagrees with me ….. but I’d rather have Bieksa (played in Spengler in Dec but not played an NHL sunce last spring, and is 37) than JJ

        JJ is absolutely brutal

        Pens looked completely discombobulated last night…. No chemistry no cohesion no drive.

        Cullen should not be at 2C

        …. and Phil moped the whole night not putting in any effort …. methinks it was because he didnt have favourable linemates for most of the game

        Looking forward to when Shultz Gino and Murray back in the line up

        Cheers

  4. The Habs shouldn’t do anything imo. While we’re playing some pretty good hockey at the moment, I don’t feel we’re that 1 or even 2 players away from being a real contender.

    Let the ‘retool’ take it’s course. Keep your picks, your prospects, and develop the young guys on the team.

    • agreed. perhaps adding a player like dale wiese to get his contract off the books in philly would be beneficial as the Flyers would have to include assets for the habs to help them out. in addition, weisse was good in montreal so he could play some 4th line minutes

      • Didn’t mind Weise, not really sure he’s an upgrade anywhere though. Trade and buyout? Not sure I would want to do that.

        I can’t see Montreal getting anything more then a 3rd at the very best to get him off their books.

      • Depends what you think are contenders I guess, people think Toronto are contenders and the habs are right with them and have played better for the last 2 months. I don’t think either are contenders, for me Tb,, nash,flames and jets are the most all around playoff ready teams

      • Fair enough. We did just spank the Jets last night.

      • perhaps MTL take Cally, Cobourn from TB along with a LD prospect and pick for Alzner & a 3rd? Since they have space

      • Why would the flyers add assets to rid themselves of wiese? Just let him rot and then buy him out. Besides habs don’t want him. They guy thinks he should top 9 minutes and does not show up when playing a 4th line role.

      • Told ya so!

    • Give my Lindholm out of ANA and I would drop you a Drouin, no problem

    • HabsFTW, you should be a Leaf fan with that outlook. Seriously though, isn’t it great to have a Toronto/Montreal game that really means something?

  5. going to be interesting to see the direction the Sharks take in the off season. Will Pavelski be re-signed on a shorter term deal? what will Meier’s new contract look like? lots of RFA’s will be cashing in. will Donskoi be re-signed? Labanc is going to get an increase in salary, likely no coin in the bank to bring JT back and the biggest question is do they bring Karlsson back? if SJ is considering resigning Karlsson I dare say they may look at trading Vlasic to free up cap, although he does have a 3 team trade list. Could the Habs be on Vlasic’s list? their success in the playoffs this year will set the tone for who stays and who goes.

  6. I hope LeBrum isn’t taking credit for the Kovalchuk news as I heard it two days from a LA reported, hence why I commented on it yesterday and that report said one eastern conference team has shown interest when pressed for a team name he just said circle back to who was trying to land him. Meaning Boston.

  7. Sweeney the cost of Bread is to high, please just walk away. The price mentioned above is way to high for a player going to walk.
    This is how a team empty its cupboard quickly when they thing their legitimate contenders and start selling off their assets.
    If Columbus wants acquiring Panarin could cost the Bruins their first-round pick, either Ryan Donato or Urho Vaakainen and Trent Frederic. If Backes is part of the deal then maybe considered it.

    • Caper no no no.
      Panarin must not sign with the B’s. TO must sign Panarin. He is destined to be Matthews linemate. Dubas must do his homework on Panarin. Offer Nylander and picks for Panarin. Columbus get highly skilled player who can okay both the center or the wing position in Nylander. Only matter of time before he gets back to his old self. Panarin don’t want to sign with Columbus, thus they have to trade him, but why would you trade him to Boston for a first rounder when you can have Nylander who was 8th overall pick and proven offensive top six forward. Columbus must not gamble with picks, and go after Nylander who is locked up for 6 years at less than 7m/per. Boston should just go on REBUILD mode and start tanking as of today. I suggest they trade Bergeron, Marchand, McAvoy and Chara to the LEAFS for Marleau, Gardiner, Kadri, Zaitsev, Brown, Hainsey and many many many bag of pucks.
      Boston don’t deserve BERGERON, he should be a LEAF for life.

      Go Leafs Go

      • Your not fooling anyone Mike!

      • Hey Mike, maybe the Leafs can get Crosby, McDavid and Stamkos too and dress 8 players for each game.

      • Either are you fd????? Another great hockey comment btw!

      • Huh

    • Agree Caper, the cost is too high. I think he is exactly what the B’s need, but not at that price. Unless, like you say they take Backes, and he can be resigned.
      And if you are going to think resigning and long term, I would target Duchene.
      And please don’t include Vaak.
      A big no on Kovalchuk, even if LA eats half his salary.

      • Ray here is an outside the box trade, which would cost substantially less.

        Talk to Florida for Brassard and Hoffman, not sure what the cost would be, but Hoffman has a year left fit in on the right side and Brassard would be a good 3rd line center option.

      • That works just fine Caper.
        Cost would likely still be a first plus. The plus being the key. I would throw in Donato as I don’t see him as a long term top 6 option and we have more of those in Heinen, Bjork.

    • Agree a bit high for a rental but I would do it without Vaakanienen if he stays long term. First,Donato,Frederick and I will throw in Zboril.
      Honestly would look at Hayes and Zuccarello as a rental package.
      Zuccarello could skate with Bergeron and Marchand. Pastrnak could join Debrusk and Krejci. Hayes could center the third line. As rentals would have some cap space going into next year.

  8. What happened to Stryker ?

    • I think he came back as Mike.

      • HA

      • good one RB !

      • No, I still think it Pengy, just a friendlier version. lol

      • I miss Striker on here. Good debate and made good arguments even when we disagreed at times. Always interesting. Would like to know what he thinks the B’s should do, being a fellow Bruins fan and all.

      • Caper

        You just insulted Striker by calling him me …. he’ll never come back now

    • …he changed his name to crusher, I heard.

      • So what does Pittsburgh add? Tanner Pearson, 26, a young good player and a first round pick? is that enough to land Brandon tour or swap in Dominik Simon?

        We are in desperate need of a top 4 dman…

    • It’s actually Striker that is how it’s spelled and he, rightfully so, was attacked from all sides and he was too much of a little bee-awe-te-chhhhh and he ran far away.

  9. Thanks for the info. guys

    I have been reading/listening lately that this is the Leaf window and they ought to go all in.

    Big Leaf fan but I don’t think that is true.

    One thing that has been disturbing since the Matthews signing it that the contract second highest in the league. But his ice time I heard somewhere is 89 th. How a coach gives ice time is a very current expression of value in the eyes of the coach. One of my favorite measures.

    I like Matthews think the contract too short but in the ball park. It does not tally with 18 mins a game. Same thing with Nylander the contract may be a little too generous but not much. But the salary is out of whack for a winger on 3 rd line. Hainsey at over 20 minutes but low paid gets me on the other side of the measure.

  10. Gotta love Toronto Fans
    Marner is going to cost 10+ mil on his contract.
    If he makes it to July 1st half of the league will be interested and you are going to see offer sheets on him. The Leafs window could be this season and this season alone. They will have little if any cap space to improve their defense in the summer without moving significant pieces. Forget about Marleau being moved, no one is going to want that contract unless you add a top prospect, plus he has a NMC.
    Watching the Marner sweepstakes this summer will be fun.

    • Marner, Panarin, Stone, Duchene and Bobrovsky are all going to sign league-minimum contracts with TOR solely for the opportunity and privilege to play there.

      They are also going to trade Kadri, Hainsey, Gardner, and Zaitsev for McDavid, Seth Jones, Zach Werenksky and Victor Hedman, with the other teams holding enough salary to make it all work because Toronto fans would like it and Toronto is really the only team that matters.

      • Amen brother!

    • I’ve been wondering if Marleau might be willing to waive his no trade clause and then pull a Brooks Orpik to Colorado type of trade.

      Marleau gets traded to Team X, along with some decent asset(s) – Team X buys out the last year of Marleau’s deal – Toronto signs Marleau again for whatever would allow him to break even on the original deal.

      I’m not saying it’s likely, but I think Marleau wants to finish his career in Toronto and this would allow him to do so and save them a bunch of cap space.

      • I wouldn’t be surprised if Dubas has that type of deal up his sleeve.
        He has to something.
        Could he also just include an asset to move the Horton deal? No idea what would have to be included. The receiving team would have to have cash, cap space and in rebuild mode.

      • The only way I see him wave his NMC is if the Leafs aren’t in contention at next years trade deadline and he goes to a contending team. Getting out of that 35+ contract is extremely hard. Buying it out still costs the full amount towards the cap for the full lenght of the contract. You can’t even put him on LTIR and get cap relief.

      • Hi Double Minor

        I think TSN mentioned that it can’t be done on 35+ contract …. they said original Orpik deal (the one that was bought out from) was signed when he was 33 in July of ’14…. so not 35+ contract

        so the trade, then buyout, then sign back by Wash was within rules

        If Marleau is bought out …. no matter when …. he gets ALL money and all Cap hit goes against team

        I’m still trying to find out definitively for sure … if traded after July 1st (so then in his last year) that Leafs would then be free and clear from any Cap if he retires ; of if receiving team buys him out

        From the way TSN and SN talk about “finding s team to take his contract”…. that must be the case

        After 1/7 SB paid ; his take home is only about $585K …. not s huge incentive to put body and fam through another gruelling year at 40

        If Leafs can’t move WW or Marleau contracts in summer …. Leafs are in trouble

    • You’re fooling yourself, if you don’t think the leafs can’t fit Marner in! There are moves Dubas can make to make it work. That is why they pay him all that money. If the leafs got four 1st rd draft picks from a team like Phoenix, Philadelphia or say somehow Edmonton they are guaranteed at least two top 5 picks. That would solve their money problem and have depth for the future. I’m a big Marner fan, but a leaf fan first.

  11. As an oiler fan wait a second are we allowed to talk about teams that arnt the leafs on here?
    Anyways im going to try.
    As an oilers fan i wpuld lobe to see them try and land kovalchuck. They would have to unload a contract as well. So my proposal would be

    To EDM
    Ilya kovalchuck
    To LA
    Milan luck
    2020 3rd rd pick

    I know I know lucic is a wash of his former self, but there contracts are close to the same money wise and hoping the draft pick will help even thing out for the extra 3 years on lucic contract. Maybe they would ha e to make it a second rd pick. I think kovalchuck could still put up 25 to 30 goals a year on mcdavids wing

  12. TSN is reporting the leafs have interest in Glendening. A few weeks back I mentioned Carolina should be looking at Glendening if Staal wasnt ready to go after the break. Glendening would be a solid pick up for several teams looking for reliable defensive centers that can play the PK and take critical faceoffs.

    • Can someone tell Babcock to take his head out of Detroit’s azz and focus on Leafs roster. What the hell is he doing putting Marleau night after night with Matthews. Babcock need to stop being a psychologist and be REALIST and accept the fact Johnnson is 200% better option than Marleau. Johnnson/Matthews/Kapanen stop it with this nonsense of being a PRO and chit. Leafs need to maximize Auston’s God given ability, Marleau is definitely not that person. Babcock needs to better utilize the players he have and grow a bigger pair of balls and REALIZE and ACCEPT how bad Marleau, Gardiner and Zaitsev are. Time to sit those useless bums and inject some HuSTLE with Moore/Bracco, Holl, and Rosen. See what you have before asking for another DETROIT players. He asked for Marancin from Detroit last year and where is he now? I believe we gave up a pick for Marancin. He had Matt Martin sitting in the press box against the B’s. An absolute DONKEY move on his part. You need guys like him in the lineup especially when you play against a team like Boston. Now he wants Clendening? Give me a break. Clendening is not the answer. Leafs need to address Marleau, Gardiner and Zaitsev. These three players need to be subtracted from the roster before you want to add. Why couldn’t we get a coach like Trotz who doesn’t ask for any player but knows how utilize what he has to maximize their potential. Ovechiken all his career can’t win until Trotz took over Washington. Look what he is doing with the Islanders. I am no expert, but I see it as clear as day. If only the Leafs somehow sit out Marleau, Gardiner and Zaitsev the team automatically improve so much. By promoting Justin Holl and Rosen will be 100% better option than Gardiner and Zaitsev. As for Marleau, you can replace him with anyone of Johnsson, Moore, Ennis the list goes on. I see it every game, Matthews time on ice wasted because Marleau is incapable of having even a minute vision as Matthews. This is on coaching staff. You think Matthews gonna publically come out and say Marleau sucks. Come on. Everyone is now in the bandwagon of Marner being the heart and soul of the team. Don’t get me wrong, I am the first person to say publically that Leafs hit the jackpot on Marner when he was gifted to the Leafs as a fourth pick thanks to Carolina picking Hanifin over Marner. Everyone laughed at me then when I suggested that Marner could be better than Matthews. But, I see it differently now. I believe Matthews is a better player but Marner is the ENGINE in the team. When you add a world class center man like Tavares to Marner what did you expect, they produce because Tavares can finish, but he can also dish and not shy going in to the corners, literally he can do it all. Now, tell me who is Tavares in Matthews line? Exactly, NADA. You have an aging okay player at best even in his hay days in Marleau, he is not even 10% of Tavares. As for Kapanen compared to Hyman, i say they are at equal. Despite this difference in talent level in his linemate, Matthews is producing better than a point per game, but I say he has a potential to be more productive per game but more importantly more consistently. Only if he had somebody like Panarin on his wing. Panarin is an excellent finisher, but even better play maker this is crucial for guy like Matthews who probably has the most lethal shot in the game today. So instead of having many so so players, bring in Panarin for Matthews even if it means losing Kadri, Nylander and draft picks. When Marner’s line is on the ice they are a constant threat, Matthews line must be the same, but he can’t do it in his own. TO needs to maximize Matthews potential especially now that he is making almost 12 mill per. Once Panarin is on board, the bottom six can be formed with guys like Ennis on one year deals to prove themselves and promote within from the Marlies. That will balance out the cap.

      Go Leafs Go

      • I have not the attention span to read that but… yup?

      • That was a big old pile of horses**t bud.
        Start to finish.
        Babs is a bit full of himself, but he’s forgotten more about pairing of players and chemistry than you’ll probably ever hope to learn.
        Aren’t you the same dude advocating for Adam Mcquaid on the top pairing with Captain Morgan?
        Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed the read.
        It’s just plain silly to me though.

  13. potential off season move. Subban to Colorado for Barrie and other assets. Nashville is going to have to resign Josi for 20-21, with Ekholm and Ellis signed they are solid & should move Subban along with his 9 mil contract. They could gauge if Barrie fits or move him next year at TDL, he too will be a UFA IN 20-21. Colorado has ample cap space after Rantanen signs. Any thoughts from Avs or Preds fans out there?

  14. I just saw at TSN that Artemi Panarin has changed agents. That could change a lot of things for several teams leading up to the trade deadline.
    Tick, tick, tick…..

  15. I could see the Isles pursuing upgrades but not sure how much Lou is willing to give up. This season feels like found money as they were expected to be awful and currently look like a good bet to make the playoffs. They have a number of pending UFAs (Nelson, Eberle, Lee, Lehner) that they need to either resign or replace. Given this I’m not sure they should get too aggressive in giving up futures for rentals.

    Panarin would be a great add for most teams. I’m just not sure the Jackets would deal him to the Isles given they will be fighting for playoff positioning and, potentially, meeting in the playoffs. If I’m Lou I’m not sure I give up a huge package of futures to a division rival for a rental to take a run with a team that is performing above expecations and may fall back to earth.

    The only way I see this potentially working is if the Jackets were interested in a swap of Eberle plus for Panarin. This would ship to pending UFAs. Of course the Isles would need to add as Panarin has 60 points and Eberle only has 24. The difference between the two is significant but may not be as wide as the point totals suggest. Panarin gets first line minutes and power play time on a team with a more offensive approach.

    If I’m the Isles I offer Eberle, Griess, Ho Sang, and a second for Panarin. Griess has been really strong this year and could help Columbus if they deal goalie Bob. Ho Sang has shown flashes this year but definitely isn’t a sure thing.

    I am positive the Jackets will get better offers than this so really don’t expect it to happen.

    • Styxcanada. No no no.

      Panarin NEED to be a LEAF. He has to sign with the leafs to play with Matthews.

      End of discussion.

    • Not sure what Lou will do Styx. He did say, and I am paraphrasing, “You only add at the deadline if you think you can win”.
      Is that what he thinks the Isles are? Tough to say.
      Eberle won’t come back unless he takes a salary haircut.
      I can see the rest being signed if they want to stay.
      Is Ho Sang finally catching on?

      • I concur Ray Bark, I’m not convinced this is a cup team but they are a lot closer than most thought going into the season and have some cap room. Ho Sang has actually looked good as has Dal Cole in limited play. Problem is they have a lot of middle six options right now so it’s tough for either to get a legitimate shot.

  16. Brettzky. I like your idea. If Crosby, McDavid and Stamkos wants to join the leafs and accept league minimum 650k each I,m all for it. We have room on the fourth line. What a line that would be.

    Panarin/Matthews/Kapanen
    Hyman/Tavares/Marner
    Marchand/Bergeron/Pasternak
    McDavid/Crosby/Stamkos

    I say that’s pretty potent lineup.

    If Babcock don’t win with this lineup I personally drop him off at the Windsor/Detroit border and boot him back to Michigan.

    For god sake stop whining about how wonderful Redwings players are. You have 3 Superstars and a Norris worthy defenceman and a top 5 goalie in the league. Do something with them like COACHING.
    Go Leafs Go

  17. OK, the Panarin trade talk is mostly silly. Nobody is paying a big price for him without assurances that he’ll sign and affordable deal with the new team for next year.
    No contender has both the capspace and the depth to trade away 2-3 good players for a Panarin rental.
    As for the Leafs, moving Marleau and Zaitsev make the most sense, but there are no trade partners with the parts that they need. Moving Marleau (let’s say maybe the Sharks wanted him back), would just gut the Leafs’ locker room and wouldn’t be worth the small return they’d likely get. Zaitsev is a very good $3 million defenceman….who unfortunately gets more like $4 Million a year. So moving him as a part of deal for a d-man is going to come with a significant cost, both in terms of eating some salary and in picks/prospects. Plus there is the Ozhiganov situation, Zaitsev is a help with Ozhi adjusting. He’s only on a 1 year deal I think, so perhaps somebody might be interested in both together? Can’t see a lot of teams in that boat.
    In the end, I think the next deal the Leafs make is going to be sort of low-profile. Maybe a Glendenning, maybe a Ferland, or maybe somebody who is off the radar like an AHLer that they expect to be a good fit because of NHL experience/low cost/and the ability to play the right kind of game. Maybe a Nate Thompson who wins face-offs and can play a heavy game would be a cheap ask from LA? Maybe Calgary would move a young dman like Rasmus Anderson or Kylington for a big more offence up front?
    Whatever it works out to be, I think we are not going to see any big contracts going to Toronto.

  18. When it comes to Toronto moving Kapanen, it would have to be a home-run deal as well for Dubas. Kapanen is right-up there with Marner in terms of being a guy who can change the momentum of the game in a flash. Nylander and his big contract would be far easier for Dubas to part with and offer up significant salary savings. Most likely Kapanen signs a bridge deal this summer for $3Million-ish. That is a lot less than Nylander. My money is on Nylander getting dealt before Marner signs.

    • doktor Dave, consider another scenario – William Nylander plays well down the stretch and in the playoffs. The Leafs do some damage in the postseason.
      Does your bet change?

  19. Leafs future moves up to the trade deadline …
    Carolina in going rumours

    Is Nylanders contract feasible – at this period of time , regarding a trade

    Kapanen – I hope not, but it might be the only answer , other than Johansen ..

    I would like nothing better than to see either Gardiner or “ Yikes” Ev moved !

    The Detroit rumour – Glendening is a nothing trade in my opinion ..

    If it is Carolina – Mcelhinney, back in the fold – as a throw in would be helpful – trust him more than sparks

  20. Endsir-Pengy… So what does Pittsburgh have to add to get Montour? Dominik Simon and a 1st instead of Pearson and a 5th?

    Anaheim is self destructing and they need goal scoring.. Young Simon or Pearson would help them along with a higher pick..

    Carolina now that they are back in the playoff picture isn’t going to trade with us so players like Ferland Brett Pesce Hayden Fluery wont happen now.

    I feel Minnesota Anaheim St. louis maybe Chicago (whos creeping back in it) would be good trade partners with the Pens !

    • BlackNGold

      Was out last night so just reading this now

      1st and Simone and Pearson

      for

      Montour and 3rd

      might work

      Even if Carolina does decide to move Ferland (less likely now but not impossible)… I don’t think Pens will win the bidding

      If GMJR is going to move the 1st …. the Pens would have to be ALL IN ALL IN

      If that’s the case …,I’d love for Minn to fall completely out of contention …. then

      1st for Staal

      Rust ;m ; JJ ; Pearson ; Cullen for
      Silfverberg and Montour

      ZAR and Simon for Ferland :

      Sid, Guentzel; Silfverberg

      Gino, Bjugstaad ; Ferland

      Staal, Phil ; Horny

      McCann ; Blueger ; Angel o

      Wilson

      Letang Dumo
      Petterson Shultz
      Maata Montour
      Riikola

      Murray
      DeSmith

      LOL …. a guy can dream 🙂