Sunday NHL Rumor Roundup – February 17, 2019

by | Feb 17, 2019 | Rumors | 64 comments

Latest on Mark Stone, Matt Duchene, Artemi Panarin, and Jesse Puljujarvi plus updates on the Flames, Islanders, and Stars in the Sunday NHL rumor roundup. 

UPDATE ON STONE AND DUCHENE

The Ottawa Senators are believed to be quietly shopping center Matt Duchene (Photo via NHL Images)

SPORTSNET (via Kukla’s Korner): Elliotte Friedman reports the Ottawa Senators have re-engaged with right wing Mark Stone’s representatives in hopes of working out a contract extension. Nick Kypreos said the structure of the contract and signing bonuses appear to be the issue. Chris Johnston said rumors had the Vegas Golden Knights interested in Stone but he gets the sense they’re not interested in the rental market at all. They might pursue Stone if he becomes a UFA this summer. 

Friedman also said the Senators are quietly testing the trade market for center Matt Duchene. He expects trade talks could heat up over the next several days. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I’ve felt the Senators were prepared to lose one or the other but not both. Not surprised that there’s a push on getting Stone re-signed as he came up through their system and seemed keenest to stay in Ottawa. I’m not disparaging Duchene but I’ve gotten the impression Stone is more interested in remaining a Senator. A lot can happen between now and the Feb. 25 trade deadline but my best guess is they re-sign Stone and move Duchene before the deadline for the best available offer. 

SHOULD THE BRUINS PURSUE PANARIN?

NBC SPORTS BOSTON: Joe Haggerty recently opined the Bruins should make a run at acquiring Columbus Blue Jackets left wing Artemi Panarin. He notes Bruins winger David Pastrnak is out for an indeterminate period with an injured thumb, heightening their need for a scoring winger. Haggerty acknowledged landing Panarin will be expensive and the risk he’ll bolt via free agency in July, suggesting it could cost a good young player like Jake DeBrusk and a first-round pick. He wondered if the Blue Jackets might bite on Trent Frederic or Danton Heinen. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Bruins paid a big price last season for Rick Nash and it didn’t pan out. GM Don Sweeney might prefer a more affordable rental winger or perhaps someone signed beyond this season. 

LATEST ON THE FLAMES

SPORTSNET: Nick Kypreos thinks the Calgary Flames’ priority heading toward the trade deadline was finding a veteran defenseman as they’ve used four blueliners 22-and-younger this season. He also said rumors have linked them to forwards like Ottawa’s Mark Stone and the New York Rangers’ Mats Zuccarello. If veteran winger James Neal (lower-body injury) is out longer than expected, Kypreos wonders if they might be more aggressive in pursuing a forward. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I’m expecting the Flames to swing a deal for a rental before the deadline. They’re among the top teams in the Western Conference and I think GM Brad Treliving sees his club as a legitimate Stanley Cup contender. If he’s looking for a winger Zuccarello would be more affordable than Stone. 

UPDATE ON PULJUJARVI

SPORTSNET: While there’s talk the Edmonton Oilers might be willing to trade struggling young winger Jesse Puljujarvi, Nick Kypreos considers that highly unlikely. He feels the 20-year-old’s trade value to be at an all-time low and expects he’ll be sent back to their AHL affiliate in Bakersfield to get him into a more positive environment. Elliotte Friedman speculates Puljujarvi might want out of Edmonton but Kypreos insists they won’t give him away. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Ordinarily I’d agree with this assessment but who the hell knows what’s going on with the Oilers anymore? Yes, interim GM Keith Gretzky made a couple of decent minor moves this weekend  (Cam Talbot to Philadelphia for Anthony Stolarz in a cost-cutting deal, reacquiring Sam Gagner by sending little-used Ryan Spooner to Vancouver) but who’s to say he won’t move Puljujarvi if someone pitches what he considers a tempting offer? 

COULD THE PENGUINS GO AFTER ZUCCARELLO?

NEW YORK POST: Larry Brooks still expects the Rangers will trade pending UFA forwards Kevin Hayes and Mats Zuccarello before the trade deadline. Both players want longer-term deals while management wants shorter terms. Brooks speculates the Pittsburgh Penguins could be in on Zuccarello. The Pens don’t have a lot to give up but Brooks feels the Rangers would covet their first-round pick.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I also expect Hayes and Zuccarello will be moved before the deadline. I doubt the Penguins will part with their first rounder for Zuccarello. Consensus suggests he’ll fetch at most a second-rounder, something the Pens lack in this year’s and next year’s drafts. 

WILL THE ISLANDERS BECOME BUYERS?

NEW YORK POST: Larry Brooks wouldn’t be surprised if the New York Islanders are in on Columbus’ Artemi Panarin, Ottawa’s Mark Stone, or Florida’s Mike Hoffman. He also wondered if Isles GM Lou Lamoriello would be interested in a reunion with LA Kings winger Ilya Kovalchuk, who played for Lamoriello with the New Jersey Devils. He also suggested Rangers defenseman Adam McQuaid, who’s been linked to the Tampa Bay Lightning, might be a good fit with the Isles. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: We never know what the always-secretive Lamoriello has in store heading toward the trade deadline, but we know he has a history of swinging deadline deals to bolster his rosters when they’re in a good position for a possible playoff run. The Isles have exceeded expectations this season and Lamoriello could shop around for a player or two.

STARS

SPORTSNET: Elliotte Friedman believes the Dallas Stars could be among the suitors for Columbus Blue Jackets left wing Artemi Panarin or Rangers’ winger Mats Zuccarello. 

NYQUIST

SPORTSNET: Chris Johnston reports Detroit Red Wings forward Gustav Nyquist is drawing interest in the trade market. However, it’s unclear if he’s willing to waive his no-trade clause or where he’ll waive it to. 







64 Comments

  1. Again, if the price for Zuccarello is a 2nd rounder from a playoff team, I’m passing. Zuccarello has done nothing but stress that he wants to remain in NY, and stress even harder at the possibility of being traded.

    I seriously doubt he’s looking for more than 4 years at this point. Ny should counter at 2-3. The guy has produced year after year, they know what he is and what he’s capable of being. A first round pick is pretty much a coin toss. A 2nd round 52nd 58th overall???? Who knows what you’re getting?

    The same with Hayes. Sorry. A 1st and a solid prospect or re-sign the guy! Too rich for a rental? What other center is available cheaper? Duchene? Good luck with that!

    • And Leaf fans are constantly blamed on this site for being biased! But I will say this; 1st round certainly can be a coin toss! Just ask the Oilers; Yakupov, Puljujarvi. But then again are the Rangers accomplishing anything with their current roster? You have to rebuild and when you do you have to sacrifice assets.

      • Steven,

        Not sure that saying Zuccarello has more value to the NYRs themselves than a 2nd round draft pick? That is grossly misinterpreting my case here.

        Grabner got a 2nd and a prospect last year. Zuccarello is worth as much or less? I dare say much lesser players than Zuccarello have fetched a 1st or better.

        The case for Hayes. Again, I’m judging his value to the NYRs, I’m not comparing him to Mcdavid here….

        Outside of Duchene who else is out there? (Actually available) Staal, Brassard, Coyle?

        Last year Statsny landed a 1st, a 4th and a prospect… at the time he had 40 points (12 goals 28 assist through 63 games) was a pending UFA, 32 years old…..

        Hayes today …. 13 goals 27 assists 40 points through 48 games , pending UFA and 26 years old….
        is that not a direct comparison enough? Or am I talking actual market value instead of overvaluing a NY player?

        Again, I’m not making Mcdavid comparisons here…. I’m simply stating they have more value to NY today, and tomorrow than 2-3-4 round picks and a pile of 💩.

        For those saying trade and re-sign, how many times has that actually happened in the last 20 years?

        I’m not letting either sniff UFA for a pile of 💩!

        Last time Zuccarello even smelled freedom a deal was made in the 11th hour of the tdl. No reason why they can’t come to reasonable terms in the next 2 weeks with both players.

    • With all the other forwards available I don’t see zucc getting a first maybe a 2nd and a third, he can always resign with rangers

    • I think the prices for Zuccarello and Hayes will increase as the deadline approaches. I would take a chance on Jesse Puljujarvi for Zuccarello as the kid has talent and Quinn might be the one to turn him into an NHL player. He also fits the Rangers re-build mode. I don’t think most of the top names being mentioned will be traded as most of them are rentals and the asking prices are way too high. This will make the net tier players like Zuccarello and Hayes more attractive and affordable (while still expensive). I am hoping that both of them return to the Rangers as UFA’s but that is wishful thinking.

    • Resigning Zucc after trading him is very possible. A 2nd rounder is better than nothing for a rental. A 2nd can also help you move up in a round in the right trade package ala moving up for Miller last year

      • Ds,

        The practice of trading rental players and bringing them back in the off-season is non-existent.

        Last year the Rangers were bringing back Nash and Grabner, until they weren’t!

      • @Nyr4life
        All depends Zucc salary offers.

        I did think Grabner was coming back

      • Ds,

        This is just one more of those things talked about an absurd amount of times, and never really happens.

        Realistically, when a player leaves , they’re not returning the following year.

      • Well, not quite all the time Nyr4life

        Keith Tkachuk – dealt to Atlanta by St. Louis at the 2007 deadline – re-signed with St. Louis in the summer

        Matt Moulson – traded by Buffalo to Minnesota at trhe 2014 deadline – re-signed by Buffalo in the summer

        Antoine Vermette – sent by Arizona to Chicago in 2015 (where he won a Cup) then went back to Arizona in the summer

        Zbynek Michalek was also dealt in 2015 by Arizona to St. Louis – then signed back with Arizona in the summer

        In 2016 the Leafs sent Roman Pollak to the Sharks – then brought him back in the summer

      • Good to see you back George!

      • Thanks Nyr4life – just out of curiosity I looked up what those teams received for the players they later re-signed

        For Tkachuk the Blues got from Atlanta Glen Metropolit, 2007 1st & 3rd round picks and a 2nd rounder in 2008

        For Moulson Buffalo got Torrey Mitchell, a 2014 2nd round pick and a 2016 2nd round pick from Minnesota

        For Vermette, Arizona got from Chicago Klas Dahlbeck and a 2015 1st round pick whi h turned out to be Nick Merkley

        For Michalek, Arizona got from the Blues prospect Maxim Letunov

        For Polak (and Nick Spalding) the Leafs got from San Jose 2 2nd round picks and Raffi Torres

        Be interesting to try and figure out who those other picks turned out to be

    • @ NYR4life

      This is a tough decision …and Steven below also makes some great points ,,,Zuccs is a fan favorite and he does produce well….but if all the signs point at him wanting to be a Ranger again in the off season and you’ve had that discussion with him …then he is a rental …

      This years draft is ( very good & Deep ) and it seems as if you go through the league second rounders of late have been solid NHL players…and in some cases of late better than good but… star players…

      If the Rangers have the relationship they should have with the players as your saying …let him be a rental and come back around in the off season and sign with them …I dont think your gonna get this guy for Less than $5 -6 million for 5 years …..IMO though …It may be a James Neal type deal he will be asking.

      So you will need to think on that too…but as of TODAY take the asset and move the player on in your rebuild !

      Zuucs is a UFA he will not be a sign and trade which will give the Rangers a chance come July 1st …IMO and still have an asset.

      Once again only keep the player if you feel you are a legit contender as an own rental ….but I dont see the blue shirts getting out of the EAST….. your buddy Stamkos and Kucherov will make sure of that …so it makes sense to get the asset this year…
      P.S …as of right now the Bolts look destined to win the cup this year …they are insanely… good ON FIRE WOW!
      Its looking like a possible Sharks / Bolts cup final down the stretch here …

      • Kal el,

        I don’t even see NY making the playoffs , nevermind advancing in the playoffs. However I think that these 2 guys are perfect stop gap players while the young prospects develop. Andersson, Chytl, Howden, Kravtsov, etc. should not be rushed in their development.

        Someone is going to have to fill these roles. Better the devil you know….

    • I know this is old news now….:(

      I was away yesterday and wanted to comment more ….BUT… what the hell are the Oilers thinking on getting back Stolarz for Talbot..???

      The Oilers should have at least looked to get a middle range forward ( prospect ) asset that may have play making ability and a scoring touch ..maybe Morgan Frost…. which they are SOOOOOOO desperate for…to only get a guy who is going to be a life time back up…
      IF THAT !! Is just another in a long list of terrible trade management !

      I feel so sorry for Oilers fans when the phone rings from other GMS asking to make a trade ! They have botched every trade in the last 5 years and have NOTHING to show for assets they cultivated….just crazy to me.

      • There would have been zero chance of getting Frost for Talbot unless the Soilers added a ton more to any deal. Talbot is pending UFA that cant make saves, Frost is one of Phillys top prospects. Philly overpaid for him by giving up Stolarz when they could have signed him in the off season for only dollars. Fletcher got jobbed by Waynies little brother on this one. Edmonton should just be happy they found a sucker to take Talbot for anything.

      • Kal you think Philly is giving away arguably one of the top forwards in JR the last two years as a though in for Talbot a goalie that’s had back to back awful years not a chance they were lucky to get Stolarz

      • Flyers were going to be faced with the prospect of losing Stolarz via waivers as he most assuredly have been claimed once they tried to send him back to the minors with Elliots soon to be arrival.

        This way the Flyers got their back and mentor for Hart, a capable backup for the next 2 years and can waive/trade Neuvirth and Elliot at will without fearing any long term pain.

        Short term they got Talbot for a couple of years for a backup goalie 4th on their depth chart who would have been lost for nothing when waived. It also clears the pecking order going forward Hart, Talbot and Lyon with Elliot and Neuvirth being trade bait or cap waived.

        Smart move by Flyers, cap relief for Oilers.

    • I don’t think you’re seeing the bigger picture for the rebuilding rangers. You need to move all your UFA’s. You’re rebuilding get the draft picks and prospects you can. Clear the cap space to pick up UFA’s come July 1st. Can always resign any of these guys July 1st. Maybe pick up guys like Panarin,Duchene,Stone or Karlsson as free agents.

      • Sure, I’ve been seeing the big picture that was unfolding in NY 2-3 years ago.

        But realistically, Hayes and Zuccarello are much cheaper shorter term options than Panarin and Duchene. Duchene has an 8×8 offer on the table today! You don’t see that being problematic 5-6-7/8 years down the road for a rebuilding team?

        Panarin??? 8-9.5 per 6-8 years? Ditto. Not saying they are lesser players…. obviously, but who fits better in a rebuild, Duchene at 8 + for 8 years, or Hayes at 6-6.5 for 4-5 years?

        Stockpile picks and prospects? Sure, but certainly not 2-3-4 rounders and prospects that will amount to nothing more than career ahl’ers.

        The big picture means development of your young players, while not going on a spending spree that will leave you with long term expensive contracts that become problematic in 5 years.

    • I agree wallster!

    • @Nyr4life so, are you saying Zuccarello, a guy who has scored more than 20 goals once in his career is worth a 1st rounder…he is 31 and a UFA, a true rental.
      The same info applies for Hayes…except you want a 1st and a solid prospect??
      Nothing personal, but this idea is crazy. They are 2nd or 3rd line guys on top teams.
      No one gives up what you want for players of this caliber…keep dreaming.

      • Crazy? See my comments about Stastny above regarding Hayes….

        Why are we discussing Zuccarellos goal totals? Is he supposed to be a goal scorer all of he sudden? He’s a playmaker. He’s averaged mid 50s points over the last 5 years, and 35-40 assists in the same time frame.

        The discussion today is Zuccarello to a 1st Pittsburgh. So I’ll use them as an example.

        Today Zuccarello has 9 goals and 35 points. That would put him 6th in points on Pittsburgh’s roster and 5th among forwards …. having missed 15 games or so? See Calgary, same exact scenario!

        Hayes in Winnipeg would be 4th is scoring today? 2nd in Vegas, 6th in Boston…. by 15 points, Colorado 4th among forwards….

        Is it me dreaming and overvaluing players? Or is it you sleeping and not paying any attention whatsoever to what the market has demanded ? I’m going to go with it’s you…..

        I guess Stastny at 32 was much more valuable than Hayes at 26. Simply because he didn’t play for NY?

        And everyone can spare me on how 1st round picks are held tight and not being traded…. 8-9 changed hands in last years draft, nearly a 3rd of all teams. So it’s not exactly an earth shattering ask.

      • Agreed.
        I don’t care about past returns.
        I think the price of these rentals will fall somewhere between 2nd rounders and 2nd rounders + prospects.

      • Hayes in Nashville, 4th among forwards in scorings….. I guess all that 3rd line talk seems a little silly now that I’ve pointed out the teams most likely to be interested in a guy like Hayes? Probably not, probably wears the wrong shade of blue for your liking?

        I guess Kadri at 35 points is probably worth a 4th rounder? 1/2 his cap hit retained? Lmao!

      • Agree with Nyr4life on what the return should be based on history. I just hope my Bruins could get either one of them for less, and I do think the price of rentals is too high. But it is and it has been for years. If it suddenly changes this year, then good, but I doubt it.
        Only thing I disagree with Nyr, is that Hayes would sign in NY for that term or contract, if he does great for Ranger fans and by all means keep him. Dumb not too, but I think he gets more than that on the open market. I can see a 7 year deal in a heart beat. He is a solid 2C IMO.

      • @Nyr4life, It may be me. You may be completely correct, but when using Stastny as a comparable you must have noticed he is more than just a playmaker. He actually scores more frequently.
        Directly comparing their playoff records, Stastny has better totals.
        Might I recommend taking a peek at capfriendly and hit “compare this contract’ and see who pops up. Then go do the same for Stastny…
        Sorry, the names are slightly different..

      • I was using Stastny as a comparable to Hayes, not Zuccarello….

        I was using his return as a comparable to a return for Hayes. Go back and redo all that math.

        The main difference beteeen the two is a significant age gap favoring Hayes.

        Again, asking for a 1st and solid prospect for Hayes isn’t dreaming, it’s reality.

        Brian Boyle just landed a 2nd rounder. You’re going to have a hard time convincing me Hayes is getting a similar return to Boyle.

    • Hey NYR, I get where you’re coming from but it seems there are more decent/good players in play this year than in the last few. I suspect it’s a case of a lot of guys potentially headed to FA at the same time and so many teams looking so wobbly this year. There are likely only a few teams willing to give up significant packages for rentals this year and I suspect that Panarin, Stone, Duchene, Goalie Bob, end up in line ahead of the Rangers guys.

      I also suspect that there will be teams more intested in Simmons or Ferlund than Hayes or Zuc. Still others are going to be hunting for D instead of forwards. All of this has the potential to have a significant impact on the price available for the players the Rangers move. I get not wanting to move your guys unless you get a great return but I’m not sure I see it coming. I think this would be especially true for Zuc who is a winger with 9 goals this season. If he does desperately want to stay with the Rangers it would seem to make sense to get what you can for him and resign in the offseason.

      Hayes may be a different story given his age, position, and size. Guys like that can be hard to replace. Of course if they can’t agree on a deal they made need to get what they can for him.

      • I don’t think you can use Simmonds or Ferland as comparable players. Neither play center….

        Duchene, all day! But what will the cost of Duchene be at the deadline? And even more importantly, what are the odds of retaining him for less than 8-9 per on an 8 year anchor deal?

        I think the point I was trying to make continues to get lost, and misconstrued.

        Hayes and Zuccarello are worth more to NY than a hot pile of garbage and 2nd- 3rd round picks.

        To Other teams? Maybe, maybe not. But that’s outside of my original point.

    • As a Flyers fan, I hope the Rangers keep both Zuc and especially Hayes longterm ………that will help keep them in cap misery and out of the playoffs for quite awhile.

  2. I am waiting to see which Metro team thinks they have the best chance and makes a huge move. Anyones bracket

    • @ ds ……

      It doesnt matter …

      I dont think anyone is beating the Bolts in the end barring a serious injury ……good luck on pro line though …lol ..

      • @Kal El
        Tampa could have a long series against the Leafs/Bruins and their D cannot handle a long term injury. Whoever comes out of the Metro bracket could hit the right timing and three rounds of playoffs would be huge for the Islanders or CBJ. I can see CBJ holding on to all their players and the Islanders getting a forward from the Sens.

      • @ ds

        We can wish as a Leafs or Bruins fan …..BUT …Iam just not seeing it …not only are the Bolts on fire …they are actually getting better as the season goes along here …and that’s scary …they are steam rolling teams with high skill. SURE …anything is possible but Iam just not seeing it happen …I don’t see ANY holes in the Bolts game …and if it comes down to a 1 goal game its the bolts all day long with the back end an goalie they have !

  3. Ignore Larry Brooks. He has been covering the Rangers for like 100 years should know better. The Isles and Rangers would never trade with each other just like the Yanks and Mets won’t. Why? It is simple they hate each other there fans hate each other if some one ripped off the other team in a trade the fans and media would crucify the loser. Brooks you are a tool and should retire like 20 years ago if you want to read his columns it is like reading the Onion paper can’t take anything he says seriously. I know I am a NY er since the 1960’s they won’t trade with each other. I see the Isles trading for some offense with Ladd and Hickey coming back they have extra bodies will have to make room someone will be sent for a rental.

  4. Nyr4life,
    You clarify your points very effectively thanks! To be honest the League is too big and too many teams face the Rangers situation year after year. A return to the no cap era would quickly right the ship and put traditional markets like Toronto and New York back in their rightful place. Of course we both know from experience how signing high priced free agents helped the Leafs and Rangers! Lol

    • Steven, a second one for the wish list – eliminate the cap and reduce the league to twenty teams. Add promotion and relegation, and we’d have a great NHL.

  5. Stalarz was 45 overall second rounder and 6”6” -in his mid twenties. I like the deal. What is Talbot”s pedigree. One good year with Rangers and one good year Oilers. He is also 31. I think this is a good deal. Except they should have included Puljularvi and got a different asset back. Like a Frost like a Myers . He will be tough to move on his own for appropriate return

  6. Debrusk and a first for Panarin as a rental no way.
    Boston needs to add two affordable forwards for a playoff run.
    Guys who play a two way game and forecheck.
    Without giving up top players like Debrusk,Carlo and Mcavoy and top prospects Studnicka and Vaakanienen.

    • Agreed Dave. Haggarty knows very little about hockey so I went even read his or Murphys flavor of the week trash.

    • Still sticking to Hoffman and Brassard. Another player I like to see but I don’t think Detroit is trying to move him and since I don’t know how to spell his name and to lazy to look it up. I’ll just say I be glad if I “happen to see you”

  7. If the cost of Bread that will be outdated by the end of your playoff run is that of one of your up and coming players and in this case Debrusk. No thanks!
    First would Panarin make Boston a better team; Absolutely. Removing Debrusk from the lineup hurt your team; Absolutely. This isn’t about comparing Debrusk to Panarin but if your making a Stanley Cup run the idea would be to add to your team not add and substract, although you still be positive by the addition. But you don’t take your 4th leading goal scorer, you keep him and add.
    Anything can happen in the playoffs but the cost of Panarin sound to be ridiculously high to wage some of your long term future on a potential 3 month rental.

  8. The Jets audition went very well last night – Stone, Dzingel and Duchene all scoring. It seems likely that one of those guys will be Winnipeg property after the 25th.

    • The fans at the game were chanting “We want Stone” the cost will be high.

  9. McQuaid could be a player that fetches more than he should. D insurance is huge.

    • especially a playoff tested and proven one like McQuaid.

  10. I would bet five bucks it is Duchene. The return of something to : Roslovic or Lemieux or Perrault and a first. Might have to add Niku and get a lesser round (3 or 4) back to WPG.

    • Not unless Chevy has assurances that Dutchy is signing and staying in the Peg.
      He’s way too keen to get played by Dorion.

  11. Lyle or Ottawa fans, a question:

    Did Melnyk save the franchise for Ottawa when he bought it? Were they on the verge of going elsewhere when he purchased it? How did a man so leveraged financially come to own a franchise?

    • OldBlueDog, here’s an article written by Garrioch in 2015 which more or less covers what you’re looking for. Since then he’s apparently dropped his dream of a Kentucky Derby by selling off his race horses (I’m pretty sure I read that recently) and his pharmaceuticals (Biovale?) has taken a hit. He’s also reportedly divested himself of his bar in the Barbados

      https://ottawasun.com/2015/11/25/eugene-melnyk-saved-the-senators-in-2003/wcm/747ff3d3-4c46-4be6-a21e-b090aacc41ca

      • Welcome back George. Melnyk never misses an opportunity to let anyone listening how he saved the Senator’s. Fair enough but in the spirit of professional sports, ‘what have you done for us lately’? It’s becoming quite obvious he no longer has the means to run an NHL franchise and the fan’s know it. Perhaps it’s the prestige of being an NHL owner or more cynically, hanging in for the Seattle payout.

      • Likely the latter is a key factor Ranzeir. I’m holding out hope that he eventually sells to Laliberté whose connections to Le Cirque du Soleil (he was a founder) would see them becoming a key training tenant in any new downtown arena.

      • Thanks George….

        Just finished the article….What a tone by the writer…I know he needs something to write about and a franchise is important to a Canadian city…But one wonders reading that article if Bruce was a wearing a cheer leader outfit as he wrote it.

        It was interesting to see that even in 2003 the answer t was LeBreton Flats. The more things change the more they seem the same.

        I know that I have written you before that I want to see the Leafs beat Ottawa every time they play, but I don’t want the franchise itself beaten.

        To bring it to this week and next George.

        How do you t develop a franchise without bottomless pockets?

        It seems to me that Ottawa should trade all 3 of these UFA s get some young guys and draft choices with talent under long term control and see if they can’t catch lightening in a bottle. One can’t blame these guys wanting out for more money or a preferred location in their eyes. ( Witness the length of the Matthews contract).

        Also would be interested in your opinion ( or other readers) about the following. I have this itch telling me that Mitch Marner is being very overvalued by the TO media.

        Thanks for the answer

      • Heh. Yeah, I had to chuckle when I read through that old article as well. Seems like Bruce was engaged in some buttering up, maybe to gain some preferential treatment down the line. Still, compared to Melnyk (at the time of the sale) the previous owners were like comparing a mom & pop store to Amazon, and it did prevent a move out of Ottawa.

        And while his holdings may not be quite as robust as they were when he bought the team, I sincerely doubt anyone is going to be holding a tag sale for Eugene, Right now the franchise can accommodate all 3 of Stone, Duchene, Dzingel – but I really doubt that’s the ultimate aim of Dorion with where the franchise is at the moment. He’d like to keep Stone, and I agree with Lyle that he could still sign here – but Dorion is going to have to creep into the $9 mil + range over 8 years to get it done, because Melnyk will simply NOT entertain thoughts about big bucks up front. Dubas did no one any favors with that chunk he handed to Taveres, and it’s for that reason I see a few GMs maybe willing to put the squeeze on him this summer with offer sheets – and not just to Marner.

        Duchene isn’t going to find a lot of TOP teams able to offer him 8 years at $8 mil per, if going to a contender is his goal, and if he goes UFA, even after a trade, he can then only get up to a 7-year deal. So that extra $8 mil is nothing to sneeze at. If Dorion somehow gets both Duchene and Stone signed, then Dzingel is gone for sure. Otherwise, he’ll likely retain him at arounf $5 mil over 5 years.

        As for Marner, many keep pointing out that, being a winger and not a C doesn’t quite put him in the same class as Tavares and Matthews – but I don’t know, man. This kid makes plays like a C and al;ways seems to be the catalyst when the Leafs find themselves coming from behind. Over his past 217 games he’s had 62 goals and 137 assists for 199 points, which compares favorably to Matthews 108 goals – 101 assists – 209 points over his past 188 games (while losing quite a few to injury which raises alarm bells) a d Tavares 98 goals and 115 assists for 213 points over the same 217 games played (in Tor and NY).

        If they try and low-ball him I really think someone – especially a pissed-off GM – could put the squeeze on Dubas by the offer sheet route.

      • Its the signing bonuses. Melnyck refuses to pay. Players want them to insure they get their money in the event the cap is readjusted after the next cba.

        Melnyck has offered Karlsson, Duchene and Stone respectable contracts that may even be considered over payments.

        11 million per year over 8 years for karlsson
        8 million per year over 8 years for Duchene
        I dont think it has been reported but stone is rumoured to be offered closer to 9 million per.

        Yet melnyxk refuses to give out half the total contract’s value during the 1rst 2 years of its existence.

        I suspect bettman will take steps to stop these bonus heavey contracts during the next cba. They are legal within the cap system but go against the parity the cap system has been put in place to create.

  12. I totally disagree on the assessment that the Flames need a left shot defensemen. I would really like to know where Kypreos gets this rumour from.
    I know anything is possible but if Treliving goes out and trades for a defensemen then he is panicking and make a trade just for the sake of making a trade.
    There are only 2 moves that make sense to me.
    Going after Stone, and only if he can sign him.
    Or going after Quick and again only if it does not cost to much.

    • Spot on.

    • Kypreos is no “insider”. Reporting that Oilers and Flyers were close to a Talbot deal the morning after trade was already done. The guys a drone, most likely scans the internet in the morning then reports his “sources” told him this or that. Hes a joke, Macenzie or Friedman at least come across as having legit sources.

      Kypreos plays “insider” like he played hockey, poorly.

  13. If im the sens im moving duchane to nashville for bonino, tolvanen and a first, then stone to the jets for perreault, vesalainen and a first

    If im the leafs im moving johnsson, bracco and gardiner for ferland and pesce, then brown and 2nd/3rd round pick for Simmonds

    Ferland-matthews-kapanen
    Hyman-jt-marner
    Marleau-kadri-nylander
    Ennis-lindholm/goat-simmonds
    Reilly-pesce
    Muzzin-zaitsev
    Dermott-hainsey

    Nino-aho-williams
    Johnsson-stall-teravainen
    Svechnikov-wallmark-bracco
    Foegele-martinook-mcginn
    Slavin-hamilton
    De haan-faulk
    Gardiner-van riemsdyk

  14. When a winger is your highest paid player, your team is in trouble. Remember Kessel?
    I’ve watched Hayes in a few games now and this guy is the best catch of this years trade deadline. Big, physical, scores, kills penalties, wow. Nice wingman for Matthews.
    I would definitely sign him if I was the rangers.

    • Hayes doesn’t play wing . He’s been a center for pretty much his entire nhl career.

  15. With Brian Boyle garnering a 2nd rd pick from NSH…both Hayes & Zucc will get you at least a 2nd and top prospect or a 1st and mid level prospect.

    • I agree with that. Most likely a 2nd and an A prospect.
      They’re both excellent players.
      Hayes is more valuable, but Zuc can make and break up plays with the best of em.
      I’m guessing this is the year common sense prevails, but I’m not holding my breath after seeing what Boyle(solid role player) returned.