NHL Rumor Mill – May 6, 2019

by | May 6, 2019 | Rumors | 29 comments

Does a swap of Subban-for-Voracek make sense? Should the Canadiens pursue Justin Williams this summer? Which Capitals could be on the move this summer? Find out in today’s NHL rumor mill. 

VORACEK FOR SUBBAN? 

PHILLY.COM: Sam Carchidi believes the Philadelphia Flyers should swap winger Jakub Voracek for Nashville Predators defenseman P.K. Subban. Noting recent speculation suggests the 29-year-old Subban could be available, Carchidi feels he’d be a perfect fit on the Flyers blueline. He points out Subban is a right-handed shot, a former Norris Trophy winner who plays with an edge. He would become a leader in the Flyers’ dressing room and complement Ivan Provorov on their top defense pairing. 

Should the Philadelphia Flyers swap winger Jakub Voracek for Nashville Predators defenseman P.K. Subban? (Photo via NHL Images)

Carchidi notes Flyers general manager Chuck Fletcher has a close relationship with Predators GM David Poile. He also points out Predators coach Peter Laviolette is a former Flyers bench boss who knows some of their current players well. Carchidi believes Voracek’s offensive skills would make him a good fit with the Predators. If Poile wants a defenseman included in the deal, Carchidi recommends Robert Hagg. 

Trading Voracek for Subban would leave the Flyers in need of a scoring winger. Carchidi proposed using their salary-cap space to pursue a winger like Artemi Panarin, Jeff Skinner, Anders Lee or Gustav Nyquist via free agency. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Carchidi is just making a trade suggestion. He’s not saying the Flyers and Predators are discussing a Subban-for-Voracek swap. Still, it’s an interesting scenario with its share of positives and negatives.

Carchidi touched on the positives for both clubs but there are downsides to this. Subban was plagued by a back injury this season which hampered his production. It could be a sign that his style of play is catching up with him. We also don’t know if Subban’s outsized personality would be a good fit with the Flyers. Voracek’s stats tend to fluctuate from season to season, raising concerns about his consistency. The Preds would get some cap relief, moving out Subban’s $9.5 million for Voracek’s $8.25 million, but they’d be taking on a longer-term contract.

So what say you, Flyers and Predators fans? Feel free to weigh in with your thoughts in the comments section below.

LATEST CANADIENS SPECULATION

TVA SPORTS: Louis Jean reported Carolina Hurricanes captain Justin Williams considered signing with the Montreal Canadiens as a free agent in 2015. He ultimately joined the Washington Capitals.

With Williams due to become an unrestricted free agent this summer, Jean-Charles Lajoie wondered if the Habs should take a run at signing him. Yvon Pedneault believes they’ll have to overpay because of Quebec’s high taxes. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: That ship has sailed. If Williams decides to continue playing, he’ll re-sign with the Hurricanes. 

SPORTSNET: Eric Engels believes the Canadiens must explore adding an experienced backup to reduce the workload on starting goalie Carey Price. Potential options could include Philadelphia’s Cam Talbot, Carolina’s Curtis McElhinney, and Ottawa’s Anders Nilsson.

LE JOURNAL DE MONTREAL: Other backup options for the Canadiens could include Columbus’ Joonas Korpisalo, Carolina’s Petr Mrazek, Buffalo’s Linus Ullmark, and Chicago Cam Ward. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Talbot is expected to be re-signed by the Flyers. I can see the Hurricanes keeping the tandem of Mrazek and McElhinney intact. With Sergei Bobrovsky expected to depart via free agency in July, the Jackets could hang onto Korpisalo. The Sabres consider Ullmark a future starter. That leaves Nilsson and Ward, who won’t be re-signed by their current clubs. 

LATEST ON THE CAPITALS

THE ATHLETIC: Chris Kuc speculated Washington Capitals defenseman Matt Niskanen could be shopped this summer as a cost-cutting measure. He’s signed through 2020-21 with an annual salary-cap hit of $5.75-million. Capitals GM Brian MacLellan must decide if he’ll re-sign restricted free agent winger Andre Burakovsky and UFA wingers Brett Connolly and Carl Hagelin. Kuc doesn’t expect free agents Brooks Orpik, Devante Smith-Pelly and Dmitrij Jaskin will be back. 

NBC SPORTS WASHINGTON: J.J. Regan thinks the Capitals would prefer retaining Burakovsky because they don’t have much offense in their pipeline right now. Given their salary-cap constraints, trading Burakovsky is a possibility. If they don’t shed salary, they can’t afford to re-sign Burakovsky, Connolly or Hagelin. Trading Niskanen could address that issue. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: As per Cap Friendly, the Capitals have over $72.6 million invested in 17 players. In addition to Burakovsky, Connolly, and Hagelin, they must also re-sign winger Jakub Vrana, who’s coming off an entry-level contract and had a 24-goal, 47-point campaign. They could attempt to sign him to an affordable short-term bridge contract with the promise of a bigger raise after that. However, they’ll still need to free up some room if they wish to re-sign the other three.

Niskanen has a 10-team no-trade list but that still give the Capitals 20 potential trade destinations. He could also agree to expand his list. Given the market for skilled right-shot defensemen, the 32-year-old Niskanen could attract interest in this summer’s trade market. 







29 Comments

  1. It’s amazing how much subban’s stock has dropped, with his problems in the dressing room which seem to follow him around to his declining production and now the injuries. Voracek is a decent forwArd but he is payed way too much ! So I guess the 2 could be swapped

    • Makes you wonder if Subban getting $9 mil a year to 2022-23 when he’ll be 33 will give some pause for thought when it comes to offering Erik Karlsson an even fatter contract for 7 years which will take him to 2026-27 when he turns 35.

      Although Karlsson boasts better seasonal offensive stats in roughly the same number of gp (129g 434a 563 pts in 680 gp) than Subban (98g 310a 408 Pts in 649 gp), P.K. has better playoff numbers with 96gp 18g 44a 62 pts compared to Karlsson’s 60gp 6g 42a 48 pts. Also, Subban has only been a minus player 4 times with the worst being -8 – once in Mtl and once in Nashille. Karlsson, on the other hand, has had 5 minus seasons including -30 and -25.

      • Based on your stats, PK has .65 points per game in playoffs versus Karlsson’s .8. How is PK the better playoff performer? Look at what Karlsson is doing for the Sharks right now.

      • He was able to help get his teams into more playoff games than Karlsson? 🙂

  2. Not sure I’d include Hagg in that deal.

    • agree with that do not include Hagg. MacDonald , Schlemko or Morin , sure no problem

  3. Subban should likely get a better return due to the premium of his position

  4. with Therrien named as new assistant coach for the Flyers you have to think that Fletcher will have a sit down with Fletcher and Vigneault to discuss the merits and pitfalls of having Subban on the team. Therrien coached Subban for 4 seasons in Montreal and they had their up’s and downs’.

    • Watching the Flyers hire Vigneault, Therrien and Yeo must be like watching the finals of The Biggest Loser.

  5. Doesn’t Subban have a history with Michel Therrien in Montreal? Not sure Philly would be Subban’s landing spot in a trade.

  6. if Subban trade possibility is valid I am sure Fletcher and Vignault will ping new asst coach Therrien who coached Subban for 4 years with the Habs. Love hate relationship there.

  7. It should be noted that Carchidi wrote that piece prior to the Flyers hiring Therrien…

  8. Subban although paid like one is not a top defence-man in the league. There is at least a dozen I would rather have including Josi.
    P.K. focus has changed since he hooked up with the skier . Maybe he needs a Canadian market to regroup

    • PK has never changed that’s the problem. It’s PK first, second and third.
      Pk donated $10m which shouldn’t be looked at lighted, but his relationships inside the Montreal dressing room have now been well documented. I haven’t heard of anything from the Nashville reporting suggesting any issues.
      I did watch his interview on NBC during halftime on a Sunday afternoon (Thanksgiving weekend) when the NFL broadcaster asked him what his show was about PK replied “It’s all about me, my stats, my wardrobe and where I eat.” (not an exact quote) that pretty well sums it up.
      Speaking of Nashville Ryan Johansen who hasn’t scored 20 goals since leaving Columbus is a nice player but Seth Jones has Norris Trophy written all over him. What an absolute beast on defense for Columbus 24yrs old and 3 more years left at $5.4 per, now that’s value.

      • Caper , I agree on Jones , he has been very impressive in the playoffs and @ 24 will continue to get bigger and better. Preds had a wealth of D when the trade was made but given what we know today… that was one trade Poile did not win.

    • “There is at least a dozen I would rather have including Josi.”

      So, out of curiosity, being 13th best in the league doesn’t make you a “top defenseman”? I mean, being thirteenth means you’re better than at least 18 teams’ best defenseman.

      • How many of them cost that much and are the differences enough to warp your cap?

      • And I assume Subban’s 13th rank puts him ahead of any Carolina D-man but who would he replace from this group that would automatically make the Hurricanes a better team while taking on a $9 mil + cap hit?

        Hamilton – $5,750,000 to 2021-22
        Slavin – $5,500,000 to 2024-25
        Faulk – $4,833,333 to 2020-31
        DeHaan – $4,550,000 to 2022-23
        Pesce – $4,025,000 to 2023-25

      • I did not rank Subban . His salary dictates otherwise . I am guessing mind you and too lazy to look it up -4 th highest paid D

        At least a dozen others I would rather have .

  9. If the Flyers want to trade for a defenseman, would Voracek get either Faulk or Hamilton from Carolina? I really like Subban, but would be very leery of his back issues.

  10. I’ve always loved PK’s game but he’s been around long enough for everyone to realize he’s a “me first, last and always” type of guy. He has a short shelf life for any team, but may well be a disaster for a young or rebuilding team. He would help a veteran group, with a strong team culture, for a year or two. If his body holds up, he’ll be around for long time yet. His team colours will change, but PK won’t.

  11. Kessel and Schultz (or Maatta) for PK and Turris.

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    Leafs should trade for Niskanen.

    • Money don’t work. Kessel horny and maatta instead?

      • Don’t matter it ain’t happening Nash don’t want Pitts throw aways

      • @bigbadbruins: Kessel and Schultz/Maata are no throw aways. Hornqvist is as much one as Turris is one.
        And why would the Pens want PK Subban?

    • Poile would be fired instantly if he did that.

  12. NYR should offer Shattenkirk to NSH for Subban ($1.5 m retained).

    Subban can still skate and throws the body. Rangers need a physical player to be paired with Skjei for the next few years. Skjei doesn’t mesh with Pink & DeAngelo. They both need to carry the puck and don’t sit back much. Subban could slide into that role and he still has a good shot and good in the corners.

    Loud personality…fit for Manhattan.

  13. How does a big personality equate to problems in the dressing room? Interviews with PK indicate to me that he has a good sense of humour and is good at marketing his brand which does not mean he is selfish. There are so-called rumours about dressing room issues but he seemed to have a pretty good relationship with Price due to some of the actions seen between them.

    He is a high risk high reward player. This means he sometimes tries to do to much and when it doesn’t work it fails big time. Same type of player as Gardner but Gardner is not a big personality. Funny how Nashville could lockdown a game with him in the lineup?

    Hockey needs a few more personalities like PK and Ovechkin!

  14. Subban is a blowhard and selfish attention seeking over rated dud. No th.nks