NHL Rumor Mill – October 2, 2019

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A look at this season’s potential trade candidates in the NHL rumor mill.

SPORTSNET: Mike Johnston compiled a list of potential trade candidates for the coming NHL season. Topping the list is Buffalo Sabres defenseman Rasmus Ristolainen, followed by St. Louis Blues center Brayden Schenn and Montreal Canadiens winger Jonathan Drouin.

Buffalo Sabres defenseman Rasmus Ristolainen could be a trade candidate this season (Photo via NHL Images).

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Ristolainen, 24, was a fixture in the off-season rumor mill. Speculation linked him to the Winnipeg Jets and Anaheim Ducks. He’s signed through 2021-22 with an annual average value of $5.4 million. With Brandon Montour currently sidelined, Ristolainen probably isn’t going anywhere. As Johnston notes, if the Sabres get off to a stumbling start the Ristolainen conjecture will grow. 

Schenn is slated to become an unrestricted free agent next July. With over $66 million invested in 16 players and defenseman Alex Pietrangelo also slated for UFA status, Blues general manager Doug Armstrong recently said he’ll have to get creative to re-sign both players. As long as the Blues remain a playoff contender, however, I doubt they’ll move Schenn this season. 

Two inconsistent seasons and a poor outing in a recent preseason game gave rise to rumors suggesting Drouin’s name is “out there”. Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin denied it and The Hockey News’ Matt Larkin cited sources claiming there’s no indication Drouin’s being shopped. Another erratic performance, however, could keep Drouin in the rumor mill.

Nashville Predators center Kyle Turris, Florida Panthers winger Mike Hoffman, and Pittsburgh Penguins blueliner Jack Johnson are landed on Johnston’s list.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Another poor performance like last season and the Turris trade chatter will certainly increase. Moving him, however, won’t be easy. Cap Friendly indicates he’s signed through 2023-24 with an annual average value of $6 million. Nashville Predators GM David Poile doesn’t retain salary to make a trade but he might not have any choice in this case.

Hoffman is also slated to become a UFA in July. He enjoyed a career-best 36-goal, 70-point performance in 2018-19. If he comes close to those stats this season and the Panthers are playoff contenders I don’t believe they’ll trade him.

A report over the weekend suggested a Johnson trade was imminent. However, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports GM Jim Rutherford dismissed that notion. “I’m sorry to see a player have to go through that where there’s things thrown out there publicly that aren’t true”, said Rutherford.

Johnston also included Minnesota Wild winger Jason Zucker plus New York Rangers forward Chris Kreider and Vladislav Namestnikov.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Despite the Wild’s off-season management change, Johnston doesn’t consider Zucker safe. He pointed out the winger was nearly traded to Calgary and Pittsburgh earlier this year. The Wild’s new GM, Bill Guerin, doesn’t seem as keen as his predecessor to move Zucker. A bounce-back performance will ensure he remains with the Wild.

Pending UFAs Kreider and Namestnikov frequently popped up in off-season trade chatter. If the Rangers are out of playoff contention leading up to the Feb. 24 trade deadline, one or both could be on the move.

Los Angeles Kings forward Tyler Toffoli, Vancouver Canucks rearguard Chris Tanev, and Dallas Stars blueliner Julius Honka round out Johnston’s list.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Toffoli and Tanev are pending UFAs skating with rebuilding clubs this season. That combination usually spells “trade candidate”.

Honka, meanwhile, is a restricted free agent skating in Finland while waiting for the Stars to honor his trade request. The asking price is said to be a second- or a third-round pick or a young player. He could be waiting for a while.







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  1. Updated composite of all 31 rosters – cap space/# of players at ML level showing breakdown of F-D-G, and those on IR, LTIR or SOIR – all according to CapFriendly this morning:

    SOIR – or Season Opening IR according to CF: “If a player who is on a two-way contract becomes disabled during training-camp or who reports to training-camp disabled as the result of a hockey related injury incurred during the off-season, they can be placed on season-opening injured reserve, to possibly obtain cap relief. It is notable that the SOIR equations are not the same as the daily rate equations in CBA 15.6, which is instead used to calculate the players daily salary (as opposed to cap hit).

    Those with absolutely no wiggle room – several below the 23 limit
    Tor – $0 – 23 (13-8-2) – LTIRS Horton, Clarkson, Hyman, Dermott – SOIR Marchment, Kossila
    Buf – $0 – 23 (14-7-2) – LTIR Hunwick – IR Bogosian, Montour – SOIR Luukkonen
    Pitt – $0 – 23 (13-8-2) – SOIR Trottman – if Rust goes on LTIR add $3,500,000
    Veg – $61,668 – 22 (13-7-2) – IR Tuch
    Dal – $75,835 – 22 (13-7-2) – IR Hanzal, Johns
    St. L – $138,740 – 23 (14-7-2) – SOIR Kyrou
    Cgy – $154,958 – 22 (13-7-2) – IR Valimaki
    Van – $166,794 – 23 (14-7-2) – IR Roussel
    Edm – $263,001 – 23 (14-7-2) – IR Brodziak, Persson, Sheahan – SOIR Day
    Ariz – $279,723 – 21 (12-6-3) – IR Hossa
    Pha – $283,811 – 20 (11-7-2) – IR Pitlick, Patrick, Welinski
    Car – $1,094,335 – 22 (13-7-2)
    NYR – $1,129,367 – 22 (13-7-2)
    Bos – $1,153,334 – 22 (13-8-2) – IR Nordstrom
    Chi – $1,249,887 – 21 (13-6-2) – IR Murphy – SOIR Dach, Quenneville
    Fla – $1,481,331 – 21 (12-7-2)

    Those with minimal wiggle room
    SJ – $1,655,916 – 23 (13-8-2)
    TB – $1,726,669 – 23 (12-9-2)

    Those with lots of wiggle room – only 3 teams with 22 – obviously by choice
    Minn – $3,054,745 – 23 (13-8-2) – SOIR Shaw – if Pateryn goes on LTIR add $2,250,000
    Nash – $3,126,190 – 22 (13-7-2)
    Det – $3,449,623 – 23 (13-8-2) – IR Zetterberg, Franzen SOIR Pearson
    Wash – $5,104,873 – 23 (13-7-3) – IR Kempny
    L.A. – $5,140,606 – 23 (13-8-2) – IR Forbort
    NYI – $5,534,167 – 23 (14-7-2)
    NJ – $5,536,667 – 23 (14-7-2)
    Mtl – $5,571,192 – 23 (13-8-2) – IR Juulsen SOIR Teasdale, Olofsson, McCarron
    Ana – $6,270,306 – 22 (13-7-2) – IR Kessler, Eaves, Case SOIR Steel
    Col – $6,515,239 – 23 (14-7-2) – IR Cole
    Wpg – $6,640,479 – 23 (14-7-2) – IR Beaulieu – if Little goes on LTIR add $5,291,666
    Clb – $8,675,918 – 23 (13-8-2) – IR Dubinsky SOIR Foudy
    Ott – $10,567,515 – 22 (13-7-2) – IR Callahan, Gaborik, MacArthur SOIR Wolanin, Balcers

    • I see a lot of rental players on the last year of their deals moving this year and not much else.

      Most of the teams that appear to have a lot of cap space is an illusion. Taking into consideration what they have to deal with in the near future, and the uncertainty of next years cap ceiling.

      I’d be shocked to see any teams moving players with term and $$$’s without having to take one back. Teams with bad deals will have to ride them out, buy them out in next years window, or take a bad one back imo.

      • The one team with a lot of cap space and more next year is Ottawa but they would need to dump some contracts as they sit with 49/50.

        Winnipeg is waiting on Byfuglien interesting to me is capfriendly shows the Jets with $6.6 and Buff contract is $7.6 yet Winnipeg was reporting after signing Laine and Connor that had just enough to fit Buff in; however any of the dman they would send down makes less then a mill. Missing something?

        Columbus has space but with Anderson, Dubois and no goalie under contract next season them funds are already being allocated.

        For the most part we’ll have to see hockey trades and they don’t come around often. The salary cap world.

      • Caper, with $6,640,479 in cap space and with Beaulieu and his $1 mil cap hit on IR to start the year, they might have just enough to fit Byfuglien and his $7,600,000 cap hit after he misses enough games that that total is diminished to some degree. With 23 showing at the ML level, they could also drop to 22 – as quite a few teams are doing – to start the year anyway (a few even less than that, by necessity)

      • Caper,
        Ottawa is another illusion. Chabots hit jumps to 8 million from around 900k next year. And they have 12 ufa’s Rfa’s of their own to re-sign or replace. And those numbers aren’t even counting Gaborik, Callahan or MacArthur.

      • You got that right Nyr4life. Depending on how things go this season, the RFAs they’ll want to consider (Tierney, Connor Brown, Duclair, Chlapik and Balcers) combined now for $8,340,833 while the UFAs who might be up for extensions (Pageau, Ennis, Borowiecki and DeMelo) make a combined $6 mil. That’s 14 mil + that is going to go up probably closer to $20 mil. At least Callahan and MacArthur come off the books at the end of this season.

      • What they will get, however, is the additional cap space for UFAs Boedker, Hainsey and Anderson (combined $12,250,000) none of whom are apt to be back next year. Although I wouldn’t count Hainsey out just yet. Even at 38 this guy has played pretty well for several years now and, since the 2013-14 season, has only missed a handful of games (last year played all 82 for Toronto).

        If he has a good year, and proves to be a positive influence on the younger D, it wouldn’t surprise me at all to see him come back for 1 more year ($3.5 mil this year)

  2. For Carolina in the first grouping above add IR – van Riemsdyk (went on this morning)

  3. I’m glad gmjr didn’t cave on what I expect was a lofty dent for a sweetener. Play the waiting game. Keep johnson in the bottom pair or box. Maybe a team gets hit by injuries and settles for Jj.

    • Pit just put Rust on LTIR. SJ put Simak on IR, while Boston put John Moore and Kevan Miller on IR and Anton Blidh on SOIR

    • Chrisms

      All I can say re GMJR is

      Pinocchio 🤥 your nose is growing; and

      Liar Liar , pants on fire

      He didn’t avoid capitulation ; he just didn’t close the deal and took the road “I never said that” just to make him look good

      I truly believe there were deals with minimal sweetener if any (Sal retention) ; and if we believe the media reports (I do) that two of the many deals being worked on , were with Ducks …. then the deal must have included at least Eaves coming over and likely Kessler (who would have to agree to it) as well

      Jack on the 23 man roster made me very angry; the talk of him actually playing made me feel ill (not a joke; it did)

      🤞on a trade moving JJ

      • I don’t believe Rutherford deceived anybody. I believe you deceive yourself a bit here.

        Bad contracts are always tough to move. And given the current climate of RFA , even harder today than a year ago. These type of deals will be going away. Unless people are willing to give up a gut wrenching return. Which Pittsburgh really doesn’t have. 5-6 of their top prospects are 4th round or worse I believe. And I think they’re a team that makes the playoffs, (could miss this year) so a 1st rounder ain’t exactly that sweet of a sweetener.

        As I said above , teams appearing to have cap space are a temporary illusion. They don’t. So taking on a 4 year horrible deal without one coming back or some nice prospects isn’t happening.

      • Hi NY4Life

        No challenge from me in how difficult a tough contract can be to move

        On the other point I humbly disagree

        My point of not buying what he said is not that a deal couldn’t be reached but more that JJ was NOT being discussed in trades and NOT told that he could be traded (in the next couple of days). Yesterday he (GMJR) said that statement was completely false… I’m calling him on this so called falsity

        Many many many media had reported on this and two separate journalists had reported that they had confirmed via sources (plural).

        This was not the first time Jimbo has done this (letting a story sit for 3 or 4 days) and only after he is not successful at something does he call the reporting as a fabrication

        He then doubled-down citing how important and valuable JJ is to the team (a crock)

        I’m hoping and praying that at the very least JJ is press-box bound

        Last practice due to injury of Rusty; and to avoid complete shifts in lines they had Riikola (DMan) play up on top 6 wing

        They then played JJ with Shultz

        Shultz outperformed ALL Pens D in pre-season…. guess what…. not paired with JJ

        🤞🙏🤞🙏🤞🙏

      • There are several problems there pengy. Ny summed many up. But if this supposed deal with the ducks was there with raves or Kessler then it wasn’t gmjr who swung and missed. It would have been Mario and or Ron who said no.

        Gmjr candidness is one of his endearing qualities. The reports said he told Jj to prepare for a trade. Very professional. Obviously the costs were prohibitive. I’m glad gmjr didn’t let one bad decision lead to another one

      • Hi Chrisms

        Re

        “Gmjr candidness is one of his endearing qualities. The reports said he told Jj to prepare for a trade. Very professional. Obviously the costs were prohibitive. I’m glad gmjr didn’t let one bad decision lead to another one”

        That’s my point re GMJR

        I do believe all reports that GMJR did in fact speak to JJ on this and prepared him; and had several deal negotiations on the go that included JJ ; as was reported

        However …. Jimbo now completely denies that he had ANY such conversation with JJ… it never happened is now what GMJR is saying

        That’s my big concern here

        I believe he told him ; I believe he tried to make a deal … no idea what was offered

        GMJR was not successful in making a deal; that’s not in dispute

        Rather than say that (didn’t clean we the deal) he doubles down saying he never told JJ that ; AND in addition and horrifically so; spouts off on how important and valuable JJ is for the success of the Pens going forward

        Again , IMHO , a complete crock

      • What’s he supposed to say? He said that it was shoddy reporting. Not that he never said that. That report helped tank Jj’s value any further. Is he gonna say that he couldn’t give Jj away? Good luck ever moving him if he does.

      • Hi Chrisms

        If he did only say “shoddy reporting” then it’s sidestepping and I’d accept that (begrudgingly)

        However he went further than that… he denied that it happened

        Again… if he tried and failed to make a deal… so be it… i’d Accept it

        Again I’ve no idea if he did actually try to trade JJ

        We had credible reporting that he was shopping him and HAD told JJ that he might be moving

        Now GMJR says … nope never told him that …. and by the way… why would I ? He’s an important part to our success

        That’s what has me upset

        Sorry

        Just in a bad mood

        I really was hoping that Pens had another shot at a cup

        If they play JJ as a regular; it is absolutely impossible

        Sincerely

        Debbie Downer

        ☹️😢

  4. Was thinking last night when I was joking about JJ & Rust for Turris….
    why doesn’t Minny ask for Turris $1m retained) for Rask.

    Minny gets another center incase Koivu goes down. Think Turris would play well with Zucc and their style of play than Nashville’s.

    • Hi IHC

      Billy G should ask for that …. both teams pay $5M in Cap and flip Cs

      Mega improvement for Minny

      But for Poile …. he couldn’t afford (production wise) to take a far inferior player in basically a 1-1 swap

      Now if it was Billy retaining $1M ; netting $2M in Cap to Nsh … then Poile might take it

      Other than that I’m thinking incentives/sweetness must be given by Billy

      BTW…. I’m still peeved at you for not coming through on the JJ deal

  5. Ok …. Season about to start

    So … I’ll throw out my projections/prognostications I for shipsNGiggles …. two sets with 2 key players affecting the predictions —— see below

    First predictions with codicil of healthy Freddy Andersen (no lengthy LTIR) and JJ NOT playing for Pens:

    East

    Atl
    1-Bolts
    2-Leafs
    3-Bruins

    Metro
    1-Pens
    2-Caps
    3-Canes

    WC/Bubble

    Panthers
    Habs
    Flyers
    Sabres

    If Freddy on LTIR for 20 or more games and JJ plays:

    East

    Atl
    1-Bolts
    2-Bruins
    3-Panthers

    Metro
    1-Caps
    2-Canes
    3-Flyers

    WC/Bubble

    Habs
    Sabres
    Leafs
    Pens

    West

    Central
    1-Preds
    2-Blues
    3-Avs

    PAC
    1-Knights
    2-Flames
    3-Sharks

    W/C-Bubble

    Stars
    Coyotes
    BlackHawks

    Looking forward to season start

    • @ Pengy

      I see MAJOR issues for the Habs ..this season …however they have been known to surprise but I feel that they are to young and they just dont look right down the middle for me to make the playoffs ….and after the 2 top D men they have NOTHING …Price will literally have to be Vezina and better for them to make it !

      If the Penguins DO NOT bolster the wingers for Crosby to play with moving forward ..they will be in the same position ! …HE NEEDS SOMEONE TO PLAY WITH ..after 14 years GOD ALL MIGHTY …Kunitz was the best they could do ! Geesh …have to get that man a winger who can keep up the pace and finish …only way I see Pens making it !

      I think Ottawa sneaks in at the end of the season VIA Wild Card …that’s my call for the East

      I also see the Panthers getting in as well instead of the Canes…Bobrovsky did this with the Blue Jackets almost every year and will have an amazing season with the Panthers and this will be the difference come spring !

      In the West I see ….Stars being an upset top the Sharks this year …and Iam not so sure on the Flames as well …they have way to many question marks ..and I like the Black hawks ..this year with a full season of Strome and Debrincat..

      Look forward to discussing more …take care …

      Cheers

      • They got a winger for him. 49 goal guentzel.

        They have tried to find top 6 wingers for sid and the traditional top 6 wingers don’t mesh with him. Sid essentially picks his wingers and his choices have been the Kunitz and dupuis’s. Hossa and him eventually found some chemistry but even then those other wingers were better matches.

      • Hi Kal El

        Yes some are calling for Stars as a dark horse

        They could just do it

        Send to me will be very good I’m 3 years; not quite there yet

        Habs could go either way

        Re Sid and winger…. he has very good Chemistry with Guentzel but the bouncing around of his other side is mesmerizing

        Personally I liked Sid- Guentz- McC as a line

        Time will tell

        Biggest set back would be if they play JJ

      • 40.

        49 this season though. Duh.

  6. Nyr4life…johnsons contract is horrible $3.25 for a 3rd pairing d-man not ideal but not horrible..the term left 4 years that is another story..
    He would fit out west somewhere the game is slower and is better than some bottom pairing guys in
    Anaheim, LA, Edmonton, Minnesota, Detroit..

    we will see what happens..

    • It’s the term that makes it a killer for the Pens.

      But 3.85 is a non starter for Johnson as a 3rd pairing guy. There are just as bad or worse out there, Hell, NY has 2 making more that are bottom pairing guys. But that doesn’t mean someone will take him.

      Anaheim is a miss. They signed MDZ, that put that rumor to rest. LA has a few horrible deals of their own, and the phanuef buyout, along with one of the better prospect pools in the nhl (oddly).

      I just don’t see the Pens as having the assets to make that deal happen.

      Could it happen? Sure, it could. I don’t see it given the term, and teams having next to no cap space.

      It will definitely require at minimum a bad contract with similar term coming back.

      Or to quote Ron Jull, “ your trash for my garbage “ trade.

      • Hi BlackNGold and NY4 Life

        I still say that

        Jj for Kessler and Eaves works

        Ducks are a tight internal budget team paying $4.6 M + to watch 2 guys retire

        The above flip gets them JJ at $1.9 M per

        For Pens …. cheaper than the buyout and no Cap hit

        Jim could have even stepped it up

        Jj 10 % retained for RK + PE… Ducks get JJ effectively for $1.6 M per ; cost to Pens in $’s less than buyout ; Cap hit only 325 K… freeing up $2.9 M + in Cap space

        Jj 20 % retained for the two…. $2.6 M freed up in Cap space ; still less cash than buyout ; Ducks get JJ effectively for $1.3 M per

        At about 29 % retained plus taking on RK and PE is the point at which buyout cash and this deal; $ wise is equal

        Ducks would effectively get JJ for a hair over $1M per and Pens would still clear over $2.3 M in Cap and have JJ gone

        An amenable deal w/o foregoing assets COULD have been negotiated

        Absolute worst case … for Ducks to effectively get JJ at League Min … $700 K …39.6 % retained … Pens still free up ~ $2M and JJ gone

        At point where cash outlay by Pens is same as buyout …. 33% retained … Ducks effectively get JJ for $890 K per and Pens still free up $2.17 M in Cap …. and JJ is gone

        It was doable

      • Again pengy. Maybe Mario and Burke stomped that out cause it’s their money being flushed? Pens do not generally operate as a dead money team. Can’t say I blame Mario and Ron either.

      • Pengy, it was doable only if Murray saw something in Johnson’s game that doesn’t match the way you see him – as a total detriment. If he is that bad why would he take him? He has Kessler on IR probably for the remainder of his contract at $6,875,000 for 3 more years and can use it in the same way Toronto is using Horton and Clarkson, if needs be, while Eaves and his $3,150,000 (also on IR) comes off the books next year. He likely looks at his team, sees it has no real “blue chip” prospects to speak of and figures to ride out the storm by being in the lottery for the next two years at least. Taking on Johnson for 4 years does nothing to enhance the team’s performance and only hinders the possible development of what young D prospects they do have, like Guhle.

        Other teams have had to ride out long stretches of missing the playoffs – it looks like Anaheim is in that cycle – and they can ride that out without having Johnson there for 4 years

      • Again, I don’t see that deal happening. Anaheim currently has about 6 million in cap space. Kessler isn’t costing them anything and Eaves has one year left on his deal.

        Perry’s buyout cap hit goes up to 6+ million next year from a little over 2 this year . Why are they taking Johnson?

        I truly believe your disdain for Johnson is clouding the reality of the situation.

        Kessler is not even thinking retirement, and he would be a fool to do so.

        Johnson appears to be going nowhere. And if he should, expect a toxic contract back.

      • I agree George,

        If JJ was actually costing Pittsburgh (a team with Crosby , Malkin etc.) games and playoff hopes as some have claimed here…. imagine what a disaster he’d be on a lesser team?

        I think Jeff Galoolie is your only realistic out. Without gutting a very weak farm system or taking back another bad deal.

        Guys like Shattenkirk and sekera couldn’t be sold for .50 on the dollar plus. I think it’s time to realize there is no pretty outcome here.

        Could I be wrong? Possibly. Maybe Rutherford strikes a Redden like deal out. But I wouldn’t hold my breath on it these days.

      • Not Redden… Gomez

      • Johnson is at 3 25 not 3.85 as you stated…as you stated the term is awful 4 more years. He is slow at 32 cant imagine him picking up speed at 36..lol

    • 3.25…. not 3.85

      • Hi NY4Life

        Re your statement

        “Kessler isn’t costing them anything and Eaves has one year left on his deal.”

        Kessler IS costing them … the Ducks have to pay $4.0 + M (insurance covers the rest) just to have him sit at home

        Eaves cost them $600 K (the rest covered by insurance)

        That’s just Sal costs… I’m not sure who pays the insurance premiums (player or team) so that could be more still

        So that’s a minimum of $4.6 M paid ; for absolutely nothing… wasted $’s

        That is absolutely nothing for huge rev teams like Toronto ; but a Huge deal for a team watching its pennies

        I realize as an owner of my own firm I see things in $’s and cents and profit and loss … big picture and long term overrides the minutiae and the here and now… I know how I come across … it’s me… I just see wastage and it peeves me

        If I owned the Ducks … i’d stick firm to get JJ at 40 % retained for RK and PE…. that way they get a player for league min … you can’t get a player cheaper

        Pens with that deal have to pay about an extra $750 K over buyout levels

        Pens should stick firm on no more than 10 % retained … $2.9 M in Cap freed up … Ducks effectively get JJ for $1.6 M

        The final deal is a move by either party plus maybe a 5th rounder… 15.3 % retained (that’s $500 K) plus a 5th … Ducks effectively get JJ for $1.4 M

        To me at this level it’s just business

        Simple math … spend the money retaining and taking on retiring LTIRs .. and you make it back easily in Revs from one single playoff round (that you might not have by playing JJ)

        This biter old man about to watch game (taped)…. I’m guessing JT as Captain

        Good Luck George

        … but

        GO Leafs GO

        GO Pens GO

      • Actually, insurance covers 80% of kesslers money. He makes 6.75 million, insurance covers 5.4 of that…. that’s not 4 million.

        We can go on and on everyday about this, which I’m sure we will…..

        But it may be time to realize most of these scenarios are a bit far fetched.

      • And Kessler isn’t retiring. He may never play another nhl game, but he’s not walking away from his money.

        By the way you make JJ out to be the reason behind so many losses and lack of playoff success…. if there’s an ounce of truth to that…. Kessler riding out the ltir looks better and better.

      • Hi NY4Life

        I’m sorry; I see now that you had interpreted $4M being in one year…. the LTIR doesn’t work that way…. it can only be paid out as the player would have naturally earned it had he played

        The $4M is 20% of what Kessler is still owed for the balance of the contract (just a tad over $20 M left)

        When I said “retire” I meant it in the sense that he’ll never play another NHL game again … he’ll be doing just what Chris Pronger and others have done in the past (“retire early”) riding out the contract in full ; while on LTIR he’ll get paid a little more than $16 M from Ins and a little more than $4M from the Ducks (or whoever owns his contract)

        Eaves is owed $3M …. $2.4 M from Ins. and $600 K from the Ducks (or whoever owns his contract)…. he will also “retire” after the LTIR is paid our

        That’s the $4.6 M + that I was referring to Pens picking up (as part of the “sweetener” for taking JJ)… that’s over 4 years

        The $4.6 M + currently owed by Ducks gets them absolutely nothing wrt team play

        JJ is still owed $12.25 M (over 4 years)… he actually gets $4M this year; that’s why his buyout Cap hit was going to be so low ($270 K)

        wether Ducks were ever offered this or not ; no one actually knows. Two weeks ago a reporter had suggested that the Kessler LTIR assumption of payments by Pens was an excellent idea for an option to trade JJ. I didn’t steal his idea; I posted about Pens taking on Kessler’s contract well over a month ago.

        Who knows what specifically goes on in negotiation calls ; but the math and finances I related are valid

        I know you and I don’t see eye to eye on JJ . That’s what this forum is all about; opinions and banter. I’d be a fool (again … LOL) if I ever thought most (even half) of my opinions are universally shared. They’re not, nor will they ever be.

        I gain insight and wisdom from this site every day.

        I learn equally from those I differ from as I do those I see eye to eye with.

        I truly believe JJ is a huge detriment to the team. Opinion yes; but a belief I strongly hold.

        You and I don’t agree on him. That’s Ok.

        Negotiating acquisitions and merging companies is what my firm and I do

        I’m just extrapolating my business thought processes in a jovial way to come up with business practical solutions towards a win win (pun intended) scenario for Pens

        All in fun 🙂

        Cheers

        Go Leads Go

        Go Pens Go

  7. If I were the VGK, I would trade Shea Theodore straight up for Ristolainen. Theodore has good skating and decent offensive ability, but is a sh**-show defensively and just makes poor decisions. I honestly think he would fit better in Buffalo.

  8. Got to say the Blues – Capitals game last night was terrific…Washington looks like they are back beating the defending Stanley cup champs at home on banner night.

    Penguins had better keep up…The Penguins forward group is strong but unless they get another top 4 guy to play with Schultz they will not be a serious threat to win the Cup..bank on that….and our best trade chip is now out 4 weeks with a broken hand..in Brian Rust