NHL Rumor Mill – November 8, 2019

by | Nov 8, 2019 | Rumors | 25 comments

The latest on the Red Wings, Senators, and Maple Leafs in today’s NHL rumor mill.


THE ATHLETIC: Fluto Shinzawa reports outside sources believe the Detroit Red Wings will be a team with hand raised high for Torey Krug if the Boston Bruins defenseman tests next summer’s free-agent market. The Wings are Krug’s hometown team and he played for Wings coach Jeff Blashill in the USHL. They are also desperate for a power-play quarterback.

THE DETROIT NEWS: Ted Kulfan recently reported the Red Wings’ mounting losses is generating speculation about Blashill’s future in Detroit. General manager Steve Yzerman hasn’t commented about his coach’s status. Citing Yzerman’s tenure as Tampa Bay Lightning GM, Kulfan observed he is normally patient and not given to making rash decisions. Despite the Wings’ poor start, the players remain supportive of Blashill.

Could the Detroit Red Wings pursue Torey Krug in next summer’s UFA market? (Photo via NHL Images).

NBC Sports NHL analyst Pierre McGuire told TSN radio Ottawa not to be surprised if Yzerman attempts to shop 2018 first-round pick Filip Zadina. McGuire was critical of the young winger’s play without the puck.

Zadina was drafted by former Wings GM Ken Holland. McGuire thinks it’s fair to say he shouldn’t have been selected as high as he was (sixth overall) in that draft.

MLIVE.COM: Ansar Khan recently wondered if Yzerman might make a move to improve the Wings’ performance and provide some hope for the fanbase. For now, the plan is to once again unload contracts at the trade deadline for draft picks.

Their rental players (Jimmy Howard, Trevor Daley, Mike Green) won’t have much value. Others signed beyond this season (Darren Helm, Valtteri Filppula, Frans Nielsen, Justin Abdelkader, Jonathan Bernier) will be almost impossible to move.

Khan believes Andreas Athanasiou could be the Wings’ biggest trade chip. He wonders if Yzerman will shop him at the trade deadline or before the 2020 NHL Draft for an additional first-round draft pick.

As for Blashill, Khan believes Yzerman could stick with him for the rest of the season unless the team completely falls apart. He also think Yzerman will continue to chip away at his roster with value-seeking deals leading up to the trade deadline.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Wings weren’t expected to be a playoff contender this season but it was hoped they’d show improvement. If these disheartening losses keep piling up, Yzerman could give Blashill the hook.

Yzerman can’t be happy with what he’s seeing right now. Making a significant move to turn things around will be difficult at this point in the season. Rival GMs are likely more interested in young core players like Dylan Larkin, Tyler Bertuzzi, and Anthony Mantha than those carrying expensive or expiring contracts.

If Athanasiou doesn’t pick up his play I can see Yzerman fielding trade offers later in the season. Playing for a deeper club could help the speedy forward regain his spark. I agree with McGuire it wouldn’t be surprising if Zadina was moved. It’s not a certainty but Yzerman could gauge his trade value.

Yzerman could get into the bidding for Krug if he hits the open market next summer. Krug, however, might not be keen to join a rebuilding club. He’ll draw plenty of interest around the league.


TSN: Ian Mendes reports Jean-Gabriel Pageau said he’s had no contract extension discussion lately with the Ottawa Senators. The 26-year-old center is off to the best statistical start of his NHL career. Pageau said he’s focused on his game and hasn’t given much thought to his contract. If he doesn’t fit into the rebuilding Senators plans he could be shopped at the trade deadline.

OTTAWA SUN: Ken Warren also wonders about Pageau’s future with the Senators. His two-way skills would be attractive to playoff contenders.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Mendes and Warren believe it’ll come down to how much the Senators are willing to pay and how much Pageau believes his services are worth. Considering the Senators’ current rebuild, they could be unwilling to pony up big bucks for their pending UFA stars. Don’t be surprised if he’s playing elsewhere by the Feb. 24 trade deadline.


TORONTO SUN: Lance Hornby reports the Maple Leafs placed Nic Petan and Martin Marincin on waivers yesterday to free up salary-cap space for Zach Hyman’s return from knee surgery on Saturday. Petan and Marincin will be assigned to the Leafs’ AHL affiliate if they clear waivers at noon ET today.

Once those two are claimed or demoted, the Leafs must take one more salary off the roster. He lists Nick Shore, Jason Spezza, and Dmytro Timashov as prime candidates to be waived or traded. All have salary-cap salaries of around $700,000.

OTTAWA SUN: Bruce Garrioch considers it unlikely the Senators will try to bring Spezza back to Ottawa with a waiver claim. While he’d be a good mentor in the dressing room, the Sens don’t want an aging player taking a roster spot from their younger players.


  1. “Khan believes Andreas Athanasiou could be the Wings’ biggest trade chip.”

    Yeah, they should definitely trade the one guy not on the top line who is capable of scoring. Trading away a 30-goal-scoring winger is certain to help Detroit’s scoring woes.

    Cripes, anyone suggesting Yzerman would or should shop Zadina or AA needs to give his head a shake. Trade a proven scorer who is having a bad year on a team having a near-historically bad year? Or a high draft pick who isn’t yet performing?

    Yeah, the GM who just traded for two former first-rounders is likely to do that.

    • Fabbri paying dividends for DET already, 2 goals so far

  2. Re: Spezza – like I said yesterday.

    “Considering the Senators’ current rebuild and recent unwillingness to pony up big bucks for their pending UFA stars …”

    Hold on. They did offer Karlsson 8 years at $88 mil total and Duchene $64 mil over 8 years (when he left Duchene said it wasn’t about the money offer, which was very good, but the chance to win now).

    They also made “a serious offer” to Stone – who ultimately decided he didn’t want to be part of a re-build either


    I’m not about to downplay the well-documented boondoggles that have been part of the Sens existence ever since Melnyk assumed ownership – but come on, let’s at least be fair and objective.

    • You’re right, George. I’m a bit rushed this morning and didn’t fully proofread this. I’ve amended it to reflect what I meant to say. Cheers!

      • Thanks for that Lyle. UFAs who definitely won’t be back after this season are Boedker ($4 mil) and Anderson ($4.5 mil) and MAYBE Hainsey ($3.5), although in his case I’d keep him around at around the same cap hit if he’s ready for 1 more season, as well as Borowiecki ($1.2 mil).

        Also off the books are Callahan ($5.8 mil) and MacArthur ($4,660,000).

        I hope they can find a way to hang onto Pageau assuming he and his agent aren’t looking at 6 or 7 years at $4.5 or over.

      • I agree, George. Pageau is having a great year, but how many times have we seen this type of performance in a contract year only to revert to the norm (or worse) after the ink dried. Matt Beleskey comes to mind for a similar comparison from 4-5 years ago.

        Pageau is an elite 3C that can fill in on the 2nd line for a good team. Plus, he always steps up in the playoffs. 5-6 years at US$3.75M-US$4M/year makes sense.

        I hope they can work it out and that Pageau doesn’t repeat the Dzingel negotiations. I heard Ottawa offered Dzingel a 4-year/US$16M deal that was clearly turned down, only for Dzingel to receive much less term and dollars (2-year/US$$6.75M deal). Dzingel and his agent screwed up there assuming the rumours are true. Ottawa did very well in that trade too (Duclair and 2 2nd round picks), so Dzingel did them a favour.

        Either way, I don’t see Ottawa keeping both Pageau and Tierney long term. If Pageau is extended, Tierney will be a good trade chip at the trade deadline or the NHL draft.

      • Yup. And Columbus didn’t even think Dzingel was worth what he got in Carolina, apparently, as I understand they didn’t even bother to make him an offer or, if they did, as he did to Ottawa’s offer he thumbed his nose. He’s good at making bad decisions any way.

        Duclair is looking like he’s found a niche at last and it’ll be interesting to see what they get with those 2nd round picks in 2020 and 2021 – if they don’t parlay them into trade chips at some point.

  3. IF TML needs cap room would Stevie Y and Dubas agree to something around the parameters of shipping Nylander to Detroit for Zadina plus a Helm?

    Helm is that grit or the bottom 6 and only on for 2 years. Zadina is a prospect and very cost controlled. Detroit gets a younger player to keep building the top 6 in Detroit.

    • @ i hatecrosby

      I agree with you here …while Iam NOT a fan of Nylander …I dont want him traded for another soft skilled young kid…

      Leafs need to get bigger on the Wing..not younger and more inexperienced ..first and foremost ….regardless of the thoughts of McQuire on anything…

      • Sorry my bad ,,I dont agree with…..@ I hatecrosby

        LOL..sorry… I hatecrosby …

        I agree with @ Gord1970
        not a viable trade option ..IMO

  4. That’s right McGuire, trade a 19 year old 1st round pick because he’s not good without the puck 15 games into his first NHL season. That’s the ticket!


    I find it weird that the Oilers placed Jurco on Waivers …he had a strong camp ,,scored some nice goals in pre season and was on great footing to be in the mix this year as a skilled guy …just weird they gave up on him this early ..unless there is a deal coming??

    I understand that Holland knows this player inside out but I really thought this was a good place for him to succeed and was playing all right to be there ??


    I also found it weird that Subban played in net for the Knights …..Fleury always has an amazing game against the Leafs on the big stage …wandering if Leafs and Vegas have a talk going on about Subban …and if this is a side promise discussion for taking on David Clarkson’s deal ..Knights have a good depth chart of Young Goalies
    Subban at $850,000 can be worked in without issue for the leafs after they let go of Hutch and waive the 3 players needed to get cap even ! ..Petan Marincin and ??
    Shore or Spezza ??

    just spit balling here on optics on Subban playing???

    • Kal-el, Subban played well enough to win the game … just that Andersen played better and actually “stole” the game for the Leafs according to game reports.


      After all, Fleury has played in all but 3 games so far this season (14 of 17) and he does turn 35 later this month.

      I wouldn’t put too much into the thought that Vegas was “showcasing” Subban for a possible trade to the Leafs. Highly unlikely.

    • I was wondering the same thing Kal El…. I have been wanting the Leafs to go for Subban as the backup for soem time now… was happy when Hutchinson came on board as he almosy became the Jets starter years back. He just doesn’t seem to have the same skill set anymore.

  6. Pageau should be re-signed and named captain. He works hard on and off the ice, humble, has a great work ethic, can play top 6 but preferably 3rd line shutdown, excellent penalty killer, leads the league in +/-. He is the type of player you want to mentor the kids. But he likely would not get the ‘C’, that is probably going to one of the young bucks next year.
    I also have to admit I was dead wrong about Nick Paul, I have maintained the past couple of years that he does not have what it takes t play in the NHL. Smith is giving him a chance to play decent minutes with better line mates and he is showing he has game. Not pretty to watch skate but he gets the job done. I know he has been on George’s radar for a few years now.

    • You’re right about Paul, Fergy22. He was just one of the “casualties” as a result of trying to crack the line-up under Boucher, who consistently gave more minutes to journeymen vets who couldn’t find the net with a GPS unit and immediately bench kids like Paul (and Harpur when he was here) when they made one mistake. It got to the point where they’d try to be SO careful when out on the ice they were tight and never really played their “game.”

      Now the kids are getting regular ice time and learning from their mistakes by going out again without fear of being banished to the press box (or Belleville).

      In Paul’s case he’s also accepted the fact that he has to use his size (6′ 3″ 220 lbs) to constant advantage.

      • As for Pageau I more or less agree with everything you say. I suppose it all will boil down to what he and his agent think they can get over and above his current $3.1 per – and for how long.

        He turns 27 this week and, although pretty durable for a smallish C (last year was the first time he missed significant games and it was an Achilles heel problem – not something from taking a pounding) in the first year of a new contract turning 28 you don’t want to commit too long to a 5′ 10″ 180 lb C. I’d go at an even $4 mil over 5 years. On the subject of being named captain, that will eventually go to Brady Tkachuk.

  7. What will Torey Krug get on a new contract? I heard as much as $8m from Pierre LeBrum. Krug said he would take a home town discount how much is that $7m?

    Interesting notes above that Detroit would want Krug the Michigan native would return home and play for his ex coach Jeff Blashill, then the next paragraph another reporter wonders if Blashill will survive much longer in Detroit.

    As for Krug as made my feelings known on here, if it’s more then $5m let him walk or trade him now. His defensive liabilities far out weigh his offensive abilities.
    His present stat line is 2g 10a 12pts in 15 games with a -3 the line itself isn’t bad however all 10 assist came on the pp and yes it’s an important part of the game, but for me this just show he doesn’t generate very much when it come to 5 vs 5.

    Soe believe Boston need Krug for another cup run; i’m not one of them, depending on what the asset is in return. If it’s not a 1st and or player/prospect then keep him for the run, but if you could get AA out of Detroit then Sweeney would be all over it. This isn’t to say Krug alone would get AA but a part of a package.

    • Idk Caper.
      The Greek kid shouldn’t be able to get Krug, 1 for 1.

      Krug is a consistent 50 pt defenseman. Those are elite numbers for a rearguard.

      Yeah, he’s-2 playing on the second pairing with Carlo, but
      that doesn’t really tell the full story though.

      AA touched 30 goals one time.
      The kid’s a lot of things, but elite or consistent aren’t words I’d use to describe him, yet.
      Fast is a good description though.

      Detroit needs to add, imo.

      Can’t wait to see Clifton with Z again tonight.
      Can’t deny the chemistry between Charlie and Gryzz.

      What happened to DeBrusk?
      LBI is the only report I can find.

    • Am I undervaluing A.A?

  8. I think the Bruins have alot of changes coming.They have Debrusk to resign does Chara retire .If Krug is not resigned by deadline do they trade him.Charlie Coyle will need a new contract and is it time to trade Krecji and his big contract.Don Sweeny has alot of work ahead of him as Krug andDebrusk will not be cheap to resign even if they take a discount.

    • Nah. It’ll be fine.

  9. Kal El….I agree with I Hate Crosby…..I am really not a Nylander guy at all….if you get cap space and a reliable D man for him….he’s be gone…..that was not I Hate Crosby proposal

    • Both Petan and Marincin cleared waivers – so their potential value to any of the other 30 GMs apparently wasn’t worth the effort of a claim. Then again, I can remember when Ottawa waived Hoffman a few years back – no one claimed him either and he responded with a 27 goal season, so you just never know.

      • Odd waiver year. I coulda swore desmith would have been plucked. He was a top back up statistically last year. And he made it through.