NHL Rumor Mill – January 19, 2023

by | Jan 19, 2023 | Rumors | 53 comments

A growing number of teams could be interested in Bo Horvat, the latest on Brock Boeser and Jesse Puljujarvi plus a look at some potential Canadiens trade bait in today’s NHL Rumor Mill.

LATEST CANUCKS SPECULATION

THE ATHLETIC: Eric Duhatschek and Michael Russo suggested the Boston Bruins could be a good destination for Vancouver Canucks center Bo Horvat. They mused over the possibility of the Bruins acquiring Horvat and signing him to a contract extension should Patrice Bergeron or David Krejci retire at the end of this season.

The Carolina Hurricanes could also be a landing spot for Horvat. However, they’re unwilling to part with Martin Necas.

THE PROVINCE: Ben Kuzma reports the Bruins, Hurricanes and Colorado Avalanche are kicking tires on the Canucks captain. However, there are cost certainty concerns and the Canucks have not granted permission for potential suitors to talk contract with Horvat’s agent.

BOSTON HOCKEY NOW: Jimmy Murphy cites an NHL source confirming the Bruins and Canucks have talked about Horvat. The Avalanche, Hurricanes, Detroit Red Wings and Seattle Kraken are also believed to be really interested in Horvat but the Canucks’ asking price is high. The source expected prospect Fabian Lysell and a first-round pick would have to be the starting point in any talks between the Bruins and Canucks.

THE ATHLETIC/VEGAS HOCKEY NOW: Jesse Granger and Owen Krepps included Horvat in their lists of potential trade targets for the Golden Knights if winger Mark Stone and his $9.5 million cap hit end up on long-term injury reserve. Stone is currently listed as week-to-week with an upper-body injury.

POST MEDIA: Michael Traikos added the New York Rangers, New York Islanders, Los Angeles Kings and Pittsburgh Penguins as possible suitors for Horvat. He wondered whether an offer of a first-round pick, a top prospect and a young roster player would be too much or too little.

Vancouver Canucks captain Bo Horvat (NHL Images).

Traikos also believes the Canucks can’t afford to wait too long to move Horvat. St. Louis’ Ryan O’Reilly and Vladimir Tarasenko, Chicago’s Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews, San Jose’s Timo Meier, Ottawa’s Alex DeBrincat, Philadelphia’s James van Riemsdyk and Montreal’s Sean Monahan could soon become available in the trade market.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: A lot of playoff contenders would love to have Bo Horvat on their roster for the 2023 playoffs and perhaps beyond if they can reach an agreement on a contract extension. Most, however, won’t be able to afford the Canucks’ asking price. A number of them will lack sufficient cap space to pull it off unless they get creative and pull off a three-team swap to spread around the remainder of Horvat’s $5.5 million cap hit.

As for the Canucks’ asking price, Rutherford said earlier this week that he’d be interested in acquiring players on entry-level contracts who are struggling with their current teams. He probably won’t balk at getting a first-round pick but he’d like to add young NHL-ready players given ownership’s insistence on retooling the roster rather than rebuilding.

All of this is just spitballing right now. Teams are making inquiries into Horvat’s availability and what it would cost. It’ll likely only be two or three clubs that’ll come up with suitable bids. I don’t rule out Horvat getting traded in January but I think a February deal is more likely.

THE ATHLETIC’s Pierre LeBrun and Michael Russo report teams are still interested in Canucks winger Brock Boeser. He’s signed through 2024-25 with a $6.65 million annual cap hit. It’s possible the only way he gets traded is if the Canucks retain part of his salary. The Minnesota Wild have spoken to them about Boeser but they might not be able to make it work cap-wise without Vancouver retaining salary.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Province’s Ben Kuzma shares that view. Canucks management reportedly wants to clear the entirety of Boeser’s cap hit from their books. If they maintain that stance, they might have to wait until the offseason to move him when teams have more cap room.

UPDATES ON THE OILERS

THE ATHLETIC: Daniel Nugent-Bowman believes it’s time for the Edmonton Oilers to part ways with Jesse Puljujarvi after he was made a healthy scratch for Evander Kane’s return to the roster on Tuesday.

GM Ken Holland has been working the phones. However, he couldn’t find any takers for Puljujarvi last summer because he refused to accept discounted future assets for a player who was a top-six forward last season. The decline in the 24-year-old winger’s performance this season leaves management praying that someone will take his $3 million contract off their hands.

DAILY FACEOFF: Frank Seravalli reported the Oilers have had some promising conversations with a couple of teams regarding Puljujarvi. That’s potentially good news for Oilers fans concerned that the club might have to package Puljujarvi with an asset to move him before the March 3 trade deadline.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Color me skeptical about the Oilers’ chances of moving Puljujarvi before deadline day without bundling him with a draft pick or prospect. Sure, anything’s possible but his stock has really tumbled since last summer when it wasn’t that high to begin with.

EDMONTON JOURNAL: Jim Matheson dismissed the notion of the Oilers parting with defenseman Philip Broberg as part of a package offer to the Arizona Coyotes for Jakob Chychrun.

Matheson considered it unlikely to happen because the Oilers don’t see Chychrun as a fit they need plus they like Broberg too much.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Oilers’ focus seems to be on acquiring a shutdown defenseman like Columbus’ Vladislav Gavrikov or Montreal’s Joel Edmundson. And no, they won’t part with Broberg for either of those guys.

POTENTIAL CANADIENS TRADE BAIT

MONTREAL GAZETTE: Stu Cowan reports the Canadiens could have a different look following the March 3 trade deadline. Veterans like Edmundson and forwards Jonathan Drouin, Evgenii Dadonov, Sean Monahan and Josh Anderson could be in play as the Habs continue their rebuilding process.

Drouin, Dadonov and Monahan are slated to become unrestricted free agents this summer. GM Kent Hughes will attempt to get something for them by the deadline. Hughes acknowledged Edmundson and Anderson have frequently surfaced in media trade rumors but called those reports “not necessarily accurate.”

Don’t expect the Canadiens to shop Samuel Montembeault. Hughes said they want to keep the 26-year-old goaltender.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Drouin and Monahan have been sidelined by injuries while Dadonov hasn’t played well this season. Those factors will affect their value in this season’s trade market. I doubt he’ll be able to get first-round picks or top prospects for them.

Edmundson and Anderson would have more value but they’re both signed beyond this season. Hughes could be less inclined to move them but I don’t doubt that he’ll listen to offers that include a first-rounder.







53 Comments

  1. Hi George & Pengy,

    Easter Confrence
    Last night Pens & Sen’s Game in Ottawa i though the Pens would win it,
    The young Sen’s we to much for the Old Pen’s….🤔
    A big plus for the Senators Josh Norris returned to the lineup last night.

    Now the Pen’s with 51 point are in a Dog Fight for the Final 8th playoff spot with the Caps, NYI, Sabers in the East
    the Pens are missing a couple of good players, Letang & Jarry with only $1.1M in Cap Space left & Cap heavy not much left in the prospect pool….❗️🥶

    The Caps are getting most of there team back from IR with 54 points With 3 team chasing them down, with $4.2M in cap space and there top d/man on still on IR John Carlson
    They still have picks and prospects to Trade🤔

    Florida, 47 pts .. dont think they will make it this year inconstant Goaltending and poor d with on $600,000 in cap space Duclair & Hörnqvist out on LTD…❓🤔

    NYI, 50 points
    No sure what NYI GM, Lou Lamoriello has up his sleeve with $6.8M in cap space at the Trade deadline…but expect him to make a few trades, he still has 3 good player Out we never hear much about these guys….
    LD man Pelech,
    W Kyle Palmieri
    RW Oliver Wahlstrom

    Buffalo The other Dark horse in the East with +$18M in cap space
    Buffalo has 45 point’s with 3 games in hand over these teams…⁉️
    Lots of picks and prospects to look for a couple of players
    They have 45 point’s with 3 games in hand .. 3 Wins and they are in 8th spot
    What they are looking for…?
    1) Good starting goaltender
    2) A big mature tough stay at home d/man
    3)….❓
    Could they be in the Running Bo Horvat….❓

    Westrn Conference surprise last night
    The Avs with there top 3 d/men Out and still beating Calgary Easy 4-1 Win…👍

    Coach Sutter Coments after the Game, He Summed up the differences between the two teams. They are in a Different class, that’s for sure,” he said of the defending champions Avs…..Love it✔️✔️✔️
    The
    Flames Really Miss Matthew Tkachuk 100%

    SJ Beating Dallas 5-2…❗️

    No surprise with the Hot Boston beating the NYI

    No Surprise with Tampa beating Vancouver with all the turmoil going on with the Canucks…

    Dont know if Canucks UFA forward RW Kuzmenko will even want to stay in Vancouver
    I think he waits to see what all the trades look like and if its worth staying in Vancouver for a 4-5-6 year rebuild… Or just moving to an other contender
    next year….⁉️

    • Hi Willie

      Sens deserved the win; plain and simple

      Yes CR on for 3 of 5 Sens goals; and (1) a post; (2) DeSmith spectacular save and (3) P-O J fantastic play literally prevented CR from hand delivering three more goals to Sens; but

      Sens out hustled; outshot; and dominated Pens

      Talbot let in 2 softies; add in the 3 saved basic certainties above…. Sens could have easily won 7-2 in Reg

      Injuries certainly hurting Pens (top two RHDs and starter); so when back, play should be much better

      If the three get back soon…. Playoffs still possible but likely WC spot; out 1st round v Bruins or Canes

      If Pens wish to get to 2nd round (must finish top 3 in Metro)… a must:

      1) healthy D and healthy Jarry
      2) CR can’t play another single shift
      3)Trade for *3C upgrade

      *BH on Pens is just not happening…. Never mind space…. What acceptable young fwd would ‘Nucks take? Case closed

      Toews would be great; low cost

      If Cats conclude they are out….

      Low cost acquisition of the Staal bros

      Another option (if healthy) …. Monohan

      Lose in reg at home tomorrow night…. Let the crying begin

  2. 🍁The main need could Very well be changing for the Edmonton Oilers….?

    They need a Big tough shut down d/man, Not a Jakob Chychrun type, there is Not intrest there
    I dont think they are moving the 1st pick for a rental
    They do need to move Jesse Pulijarvi out & $3.M contract, and move out Warren Foegele $2.75.M contract to make room
    With the play of the New Big d/man over the
    past 4 games has been Very Good as a defensive d/man…Vin Diesel… AKA, Vincent Desharnais
    maybe
    the Oil look for a LD position 6 or 7 d/man at lower cost❓

    There has been chater about Habs Josh Anderson Again…, they want the Oilers young centre
    Xavier Bourgault and a pick, but salary would need to go the other way🤔

    It could very well switch it and look for a Top 6 RW the Oilers badly need and a big tough Physical bottom 6 winger at a lower cost also ⁉️

    • The addition of Desharnais has paid off for the Oilers so far. Since Desharnais’s addition, Broberg has also improved his play. The talk in Edmonton has turned to acquiring a rental d-man for the playoffs instead of a d-man with term.
      I don’t know why you think the Oilers need to add another top 6 winger. They just got Kane back and Kostin has looked good in that spot while Kane was on LTIR. So there is the addition of a top 6 forward right there.

      • Agree KevJam, the Oilers top 6 is as good as any in the NHL when healthy.

        Good to see Broberg finding his footing in the NHL, and if he can keep it up it allows Holland the time to wait and not get as hosed by the seller.

        The kid has all the tools, just needs the reps.

        The Oilers are in win now mode, and while not unheard of (Byram last year), it is pretty rare to have a rookie playing tough top 4 minutes late into the playoffs. So even if he keeps playing at a high level, I still think they add a shut down guy.

      • KevJam
        the Oilers have 5 good forwards for the top 6…
        Yammomto is a 3rd line player,
        We need a Real Top 6 RW…

        However Klim Kostin has looked very good,👍 maybe we wait till mid-late feb to make a move❓
        but JP has to go…. maybe its him and a pick for a RW….
        Like Taylor Raddish a 24yr old RW out of chicago who use to be a team mate of Connors in Erie,
        he is playing on the 3rd line now and has had a few shots on the 2nd line recently he is in his 2nd NHL year,

        The Oil also like Sam Lafferty 27 yr old RW/C out of Chicago also….❓
        hopefully Ken holland can get a couple of deals done here…..

      • willie,
        IMO if a forward is playing on the third line of one of the worst teams in the NHL they aren’t good enough to play in the top 6 of a playoff team.
        Kane – McDavid – Draisaitl
        Yamamoto/Kostin – Nuge – Hyman
        IMO there is no need to add anything there.

      • Agree KevJam, although that Raddish kid wouldn’t hurt the bottom 6. Just not the priority.

        Holloway has been getting some looks in the top 6 lately so is an option if he keeps improving. Can skate, has some size, and will play physical. They have options they will shuffle in and out of top 6. And I like Kostin for what he brings as well. Can move McLeod up and down the top 9 as well.

        The Oil have cap limitations, and need to spend assets wisely. Top 6 forwards not where it is required IMO.

        We know that top teams have at least 8 D that they are comfortable playing in the playoffs, and that they will likely need all 8 for at least a game or 2, if not more. Add there.

  3. From Lyle’s blurb above ” Ottawa’s Alex DeBrincat … could soon become available in the trade market.”

    I’d say that’s a pretty good bet. As I posted yesterday, right now Ottawa’s Top 11 cap hits total $59,050,000. In addition to Tkachuk, Norris, Giroux, Batherson, Chabot and deBrincat (expiring $6.4 mil), that also includes Hamonic (expiring $3 mil), Talbot (expiring $3,666,667), Joseph, Forsberg and Zaitsev ($4,500,000 with 2 years to run).

    Neither Hamonic nor Talbot are likely to be re-signed, nor will pending UFA Tyler Motte ($1,350,000) so that will free up another $8,016,667 and if they can somehow move Zaitsev and his $4.5 mil that increases to just over $12.5 mil. However, Stutzle’s $8,350,000 kicks in next year, so there goes most of that, plus they have to replace Hamonic, Talbot, Motte with new bodies and, if they deal them, Pinto, Gambrell and Brannstrom (Pinto + as the sweetener for someone to take Zaitsev), so qualifying DeBrincat at $9 mil – or even re-signing him to a long-term deal at something in the $8.2 – $8.4 range seems unlikely.

    • Hey George, As a Devil’s fan, we need a sniper on wing. What would it cost realistically to get rental DeBrincat, realistically? Devs have their first and sure they will put that in play for the right deal.

      • The Cat is a RFA next season. he would only be a rental if he goes unqualified or NJ trades his rights.

      • That’s a toughie redmonsters. I seldom go into personalities other than to voice my opinions on who Ottawa should move out, the main reason being, when big trades do go down we’re usually left WTF? more often than not.

        Having said that, I would think that, if DeBrincat is to be dealt at or before TD Day, the best return Dorion could expect is if the deal involves a team prepared to offer him a long-term deal in the $8.2-8.4 mil range, rather than going somewhere as a rental.

        Would/could NJ give him such a contract? In that event I doubt Dorion would want a 1st round pick that figures to be somewhere between 29th and 32nd. He’d want something he could use right away rather than 2-3 years down the line.

        Speaking personally, I would start with D Simon Nemec. But that’s me 🙂

      • Good point Johnnyz – overlooked that in my response.

      • Well, they just got him and it cost a 1st and 3rd basically, so that would be the bare min. I would say a 1st and a good D/G prospect, especially if the D is …. say it with me now (as the Sens have said all summer) a RHD.

        But if the Sens are going to let Debrincat go….and they should it if will cost them more than $8.2 per year….it should be for a…say it with now…A RHD!!

      • While I agree with your take Grimm, finding a RD with term that someone is prepared to relinquish gets whittled down real fast if you eliminate those teams that don’t need a Debrincat, or who would love to have him but simply cannot free up the required cap space to accommodate what he’ll be seeking as an RFA.

      • Thanks George and Johnny for the info. I can’t see the Devs trading Nemec unless its a sign and trade. But then again I am no NHL GM either. If DeBrincat is made available, I believe the interest would be far and wide, including the Devs. That said, my concern would be adding a smaller forward to an already small team for the playoffs. But they need a sniper. A lot to consider….

      • I’ll say this for DeBrincat, redmonsters, he may be on the small side … but he doesn’t “play small” by any stretch. He’s built more like a fire-hydrant and will give as good as he gets and has absolutely NO fear of going to the dirty areas.

    • Are you including this year as one of the Zaitsev years George? cause it’s really one and a half 😛

      • Yeah, my gaffe the Saint. One year after this, so maybe easier to deal in the summer with a sweetener or two for the right return.

  4. Jarmo Kekalainen has never passed up on acquiring a Finn player, so I can see JP getting traded there

    when did speculation of Debrincat being available start ? I think he would be a hot commodity along with Pane and Meier at the deadline

    • Jarmo passed on Pulj when he was the consensus number 3 pick at worst, he knows something the Oilers didn’t

      • Pass on Pull-toy, pick him up for peanuts when he goes unqualified and is a FA next summer.

    • Maybe with another asset thrown in, but not straight up. Even with another asset, I have doubts.

      • Totally random and probably my imagination going down a rabbit hole but….
        Canucks ownership refuses to go down the path of a rebuild. Peterson is the only player not available. The athletic slips on rumors about him perhaps leaving ( slips up obviously means purposely let the world know).
        Could it be that Peterson reached out to ownership and said I want to win NOW. Figure it out or I walk.

      • I agree Sidetrak, that ownership doesn’t want to do that. Been that way for a while as when they lose too many empty seats, many even paid for by corporate holders, but still not buying food and bevs, so costing revenue.

        Rumor has it that is why Linden left, wanted to stay the course with rebuild and got over ruled.

        In places like EDM and TOR, rink is full, win or lose.

    • Hi George,
      Simon Nemec the 18yr old Slovakia RD man looks very good, But i dont think they need an other young d/man in Ottawa right now❓

      Next year the oldest d/man is Zub at 27, then Chabot at 25, the rest are All very young at 20, 21, 22, 23,
      as Hollden and Hamonic’ wont be back, they also have 4 young d/men in JR about to break through also… ❗️

      They also have 3 forward’s ready to come up
      I think they need an established player’s
      maybe its a starting #1 goaltender or a 2nd paring RD man❓ but i think they should wait till UFA begins in July to get a 2nd par RD-man

      • williew, I said I’d “start with Nemec” in lieu of NJs 1st round pick which figures to be pretty low down the line. Then, maybe someone like Seversen.

      • By the way, just looked up Formenton at HockeyDB.com

        At Ambri-Piotta in the Swiss-A league he’s played 8 games and has 3 goals 1 assist 4 points and is a -3 … but most interestingly he has 58 minutes in penalties – in 8 games! What? Did he develop a nasty streak?

        Wonder if there’s any trade value left in this guy or if he’s unofficially persona-non-grata in the NHL … without the necessity of a formal ban?

  5. As to the Habs, get Drouin and Dadanov out of there fast. Drouin would especially benefit. His time in Habland turned into a match made in hell. Would be lucky to get a 3rd for either of them, but just get them out.
    As to Edmundson, I would only trade him now if a 1st comes back or a top prospect. No rush as he’s got another year on his deal. Can always try again in the summer or next year.
    I wouldn’t trade Anderson. Still a useful player, a big physical forward who can skate and score. Young enough to help down the road.
    The hard call is Monahan. Obviously, he’d have to be back and playing well to get a decent return. But he could still be a useful player to keep and extend at a reasonable cap hit and term. Going forward, a solid #2 center is a necessity. Given Dach’s poor face off performance, he may wind up as a winger. A veteran center would certainly be a good thing to have. Of course, a decision as to Monahan May be guided by whether Hughes feels that PLD to the Habs is a real possibility somewhere down the line.

    • That’s how I see it too, Howard. I cannot imagine getting anything other than a late round pick for Drouin. He gets injured, comes back, gets a few assists, and then gets injured again. And zero goals this year. Amazingly bad.

      While I agree that Monahan would be good to retain your yesterday numbers for Caulfield are likely, and $ has to be saved for Guhle. Monahan would have to sign at a discounted rate.

      The same cap issues apply to the fantasy that the Habs sign PLD. As George points out above even rebuilding teams can get themselves into cap trouble. Overpaying for Monahan or PLD will blow the rebuild up.

      Better to tough it out and wait for Joshua Roy and Owen Beck. Suzuki, Caulfield, Dach and Guhle are all you and will be in their prime when Roy and Beck are ready.

      Besides, the Habs are going to land Bedard …

      Oh, is it time to wake up?

    • Rumour is the Oilers could wave Pulljujarvi at 2 pm. I hope Hughes passes. If Habs are to give him a try, let it ne next summer, at league minimum.
      OR, the Oilers throw in a 2nd.

    • I’m a Habs fan, but I feel like Edmundson for first or equivalent prospect is unlikely. I think the Chiarot deal & FLA situation will scare off GMs.

      However, there is one situation I can see working out. There are rumours of Edmundson to Washington. Eller has been scratched there recently.

      — HABS trade Edmundson
      — CAPS trade Eller + 2024 first (or equivalent prospect)

      The money works, plus then the Habs get their desired pick by taking on a “bad” contract they can easily absorb.

      It also gets them a centre that makes trading Monahan that little bit easier.

  6. SOP, I don’t think you saw my late day answer yesterday to your question about who fired the first shot in the Aho/Kotkaniemi saga.

    It was the Habs. As I recall: Aho’s agent, Brisson, is chummy with Bergevin. The story as I understand it is that Aho’s negotiations with the Canes were slow and Brisson supposedly suggested to Bergevin an offer sheet might land Aho. I think Brisson played Bergevin because it didn’t work. But that was the Balkins moment.

    • Thanks, LJ. I replied to you on yesterday’s page.
      I believe what you wrote to be accurate. It wouldn’t be the first time something like that has happened.
      I think back to Colorado/Calgary and the Ryan O’Reilly deal. Everyone seems to think that Jay Feaster made a terrible pitch to O’Reilly, which could have blown up in his face. (Waivers for Ryan) Yet no one mentions that all executives involved on both sides came up together in Hershey. They were all tighter than 2 coats of paint.
      Those fellow’s knew exactly what they were doing, and the Av’s got their player under a decent contract. Subtle manipulation is the most effective kind.

      • Always a pleasant exchange, SOP.

  7. Vancouver supposing want a young center back in return for Horvat. That leaves Boston out.

    • Daryl, I believe Lysell and a 1st are a given. Vancouver know Lysell well as he plays there. Craig Smith would have to be of any deal for cap $$

      With the projection of Lysell, and the 1st, i don’t think Boston should add anything else.

      • I just don’t see Boston as a fit for Horvat this season as a rental. Where would he even play in the top 6?
        I suppose you could move Krecji to the wing, but I can’t remember him ever playing wing so not sure how that would work out.

        We’re solid at 3C, but maybe you could move Coyle to wing and have him play there? I dunno why you wouldn’t just get a winger if that’s the plan. They usually cost less.

        UFA this off season, sure, if you can make the $ work, but Pasta gonna cost just as much if not more. Plus Horvat’s season so far sure looks like the outlier, not the norm. Solid #2 C who plays both ends that somebody will overpay for.

  8. Caper

    Aside from Lysell what does BOS have to offer in a trade for Horvat?

    It’s my understanding that they’re not very deep in prospects and their first round pick is very likely to be low 25-32 overall. They also have very little cap space.

    Rutherford has said they’d like a C or RD as part of a return for Horvat.

    BOS would be tough to beat if Horvat was added to their roster

  9. Not sure why or how NYR would have interest in Horvat. They just licked up Zib and Trochek long term. Pretty set at 1 and 2C. Read yesterday that Seravalli believes NY is seriously pursuing Meier. Not sure how that would work if they are looking to sign him buying next season. I’ve said before that Dadonov is a cheap option for Rangers 2nd line. He’s got history with both Panarin and Trochek. Could be type of addition similar to adding Vatrano last year.

  10. i see where ottawa is interested in gavrikov from blue jackets. would a swap of pinto for gavrikov be good or would either team need more. i know ottawa needs defense man and blue jackets need center just like to know everybodys thoughts on this

    • A very decent trade proposal, Norman, but I’d hold onto Pinto. I believe he’s gonna be a good one.

      • I agree, Shoreorrpark, that Pinto is going to be a good one … always thought that from the first time I saw him in action.

        But therein lies the problem. Ottawa’s # 1 and # 2 Cs for the foreseeable future appear to be Norris and Stutzle, with Girouix perfectly capable of stepping in at either in a pinch, and I really believe Pinto will himself become a Top 2 calibre C. You don’t want to be paying a 3rd line C top 2 cap hits. If the return is a solid RD with term, and Pinto is seen as a viable ret urn, they almost have to go that route.

    • CBJ wants a 1st and a mid-rd round pick for Gavvy

    • I would do that trade in a heart beat if Gavrikov agree’s to sign. As George stated Pinto is very capable but stuck in the 3 slot. Plus he did not exactly tear it up when Norris went down earlier in the year. I like Pinto but he won’t get prime time in Ottawa.

      If that does not work out I would consider a trade , Debrincat for Marino + from the Devils.

      • Melding Fergy and JZ’s thoughts

        *Conditional 2nd + *Conditional 4th

        *2nd and 4th become 1st and 3rd (both in ‘24) if he re-ups

      • Pengy:
        *2nd and 4th become 1st and 3rd (both in ‘24) if he re-ups

        ^^^^^this is no longer legal!

    • I don’t mind Ottawa trading Debrincat or Pinto. I just don’t want Pierre Dorion being the one to make the trade. He is not the GM to lead this time.

      I imagine he is in place until a new owner is found. He can deal Talbot, Joseph, any pending UFA, and Brannstrom. But beyond that I would prefer a new quality GM to make that deal.

      Like others I thought Dorion’s moves in the summer were great. But end result is the same … a bottom tier team with a lot of individual, young talent upfront. But this team needs a new GM and a new coach.

  11. What are the Top landing Spots for Canucks #1 Centre Bo Horvat…..❓
    Asking price,
    A 1st round pick and a Good Player. A Centre is what they prefer back …. but who really know half the team is on the Trade block⁉️

    1/ Boston, high pick 32nd & Jeremy Swayman
    or
    2/ CBJ (Great 1st pick top in 5) Jiricek or Boqvist’
    or
    3/ Buffalo (Great 1st pick in top 10 ) Matthew Savoie
    or
    4/ Seattle a 20th pick…? and Shane /Wright
    or
    5/ Carolina high pick and Seth Jarvis & good prospect…

    Your Thoughts….⁉️🤔

    • Not sure why the Jackets would make that trade? Seems like massive overpay for negotiating rights

      • CBJ dont have a Good 1st or 2nd line centre…⁉️

        They have Nobody at centre to play with johnny hockey and Patrik Laine thats why the cant Score Goals….
        Being Smart, They would do a trade and sign agreement to keep him 99 % of the teams would apart from AZ….

      • I think they are all overpays even if the team is a contender and wants him for this years playoffs.
        That high a pick, plus in some cases an excellent you player.

        VCR is not allowing discussions on an extension, so the risk is way to high for 2 excellent pieces like that for a rental IMO. Even a very good rental like Horvat.

    • Horvat is a pending UFA – there is zero chance Columbus does that deal.
      There is also zero chance the Kraken pay Wright++ for Horvat, even if he were to extend.
      Buffalo doens’t need to make this move right now, they aren’t ready and who knows if Horvat signs there.
      Carolina is realistic.