Sunday NHL Rumor Roundup – February 19, 2023
Are the Canucks getting calls on J.T. Miller? Are the Red Wings shopping Tyler Bertuzzi? Could the Bruins pursue Jakob Chychrun or Vladislav Gavrikov? What’s the latest on the Canadiens, Predators and Blue Jackets? Find out in the Sunday NHL Rumor Roundup.
TEAMS CALLING ABOUT J.T. MILLER
SPORTSNET: Elliotte Friedman thinks teams have called the Vancouver Canucks about J.T. Miller. He doesn’t know if those discussions will go anywhere but the teams may be asking the Canucks whether they’d think about it.
Vancouver Canucks center J.T. Miller (NHL Images).
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Just when we thought the Miller trade rumors were behind us…I suppose we can never say never and there’s always a chance the Canucks could decide to move him and his new contract. Nevertheless, it would take a substantial offer to tempt them.
Miller’s in the final season of his current deal with a $5.25 million cap hit and lacks no-trade protection. Moving him now would be easier than this summer when his new seven-year deal with its $8 million annual cap hit and no-trade clause kicks in on July 1.
TYLER BERTUZZI NOT ON THE MARKET?
SPORTSNET: Elliotte Friedman reports it’s believed Detroit Red Wings forward Tyler Bertuzzi doesn’t appear to be on the trade market for the time being. They apparently wish to retain the 27-year-old winger as long as they’re still in playoff contention leading up to the March 3 trade deadline.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: That could change, of course, if the Wings fail to gain ground in the standings over the next 10 days. Still, their odds of reaching the postseason could be better with Bertuzzi in the lineup, especially if there’s no suitable replacement for him in the lineup or via the trade market. They’ll risk losing him for nothing to this summer’s free-agent market but it could be the price they’re willing to pay to qualify for the playoffs for the first time since 2016.
LATEST ON THE BRUINS
SPORTSNET: Elliotte Friedman reports the Boston Bruins could be looking at the Columbus Blue Jackets’ Vladislav Gavrikov to bolster the left side of their blueline. He thinks that’s the reason the Jackets have sat out Gavrikov for “trade-related reasons.” Friedman also said they’re looking at Jakob Chychrun of the Arizona Coyotes.
Limited cap space is an issue for the Bruins. Friedman said the Bruins “have to do some things to make this work.”
THE ATHLETIC: Fluto Shinzawa believes the St. Louis Blues’ Ivan Barbashev would “check multiple boxes for the Bruins” as a multiple-position forward. One limitation in acquiring him is the Bruins lack second-round picks in 2023 and 2024. They’d also need cap help to accommodate his $2.25 million cap hit.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: With Tomas Novek on long-term injured reserve, Cap Friendly indicates the Bruins have $1 million in projected trade deadline cap space. They’ll have to get creative to make room for Barbashev, Gavrikov ($2.8 million cap hit) or Chychrun ($4.6 million). The Jackets are believed seeking a first and a third-round pick for Gavrikov while the Coyotes want two first-round picks and a high-end prospect for Chychrun.
CANADIENS COULD FACE A QUIET TRADE DEADLINE
SPORTSNET: Jeff Marek reports the Montreal Canadiens could have a quiet trade deadline compared to last season’s. He said general manager Kent Hughes is taking calls on a lot of his veteran players but he’s like to keep them around his abundance of youth.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Hughes might like the veterans he currently has on his roster but let’s be honest: he’d trade a guy like Sean Monahan, Joel Edmundson, Mike Hoffman, Jonathan Drouin or Evgeni Dadonov if a rival club made an offer that included a first-round pick, a high-quality prospect or a promising young NHL player.
Monahan and Edmundson are hampered by injuries. There isn’t the kind of market for Hoffman, Drouin and Dadonov that there was last season for Tyler Toffoli and Ben Chiarot.
Drouin and Dadonov will leave as free agents in July. Monahan could also depart as a free agent but there’s talk the Canadiens could re-sign him to an affordable one-year deal. With a year remaining on their respective contracts, Edmundson and Hoffman could become trade candidates this summer or next season.
WILL THE PREDATORS SIGN OR TRADE TANNER JEANNOT
NEW YORK POST: Larry Brooks reports being told the Nashville Predators are attempting to negotiate a new contract for winger Tanner Jeannot once they determine if they’re buyers or sellers by the trade deadline. If those discussions fail to reach fruition, general manager David Poile could entertain trade offers from clubs (like the Rangers) who’ve expressed interest in the hard-edged winger.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Jeannot, 25, is slated to become a restricted free agent with arbitration rights on July 1. He’s completing a two-year contract with an average annual value of $800K.
UPDATE ON THE BLUE JACKETS
SPORTSNET: Jeff Marek suggested the Columbus Blue Jackets’ Joonas Korpisalo could be an option for playoff contenders seeking goaltending depth. His adjusted save percentage going back to early December of 1.9 percent saves above expected, putting him above netminders like the New York Islanders’ Ilya Sorokin, the Dallas Stars’ Jake Oettinger and the New York Rangers’ Igor Shesterkin. Korpisalo carries a $1.3 million cap hit on an expiring contract.
Marek also believes teams that fail to land Gavrikov could shift their focus toward the Anaheim Ducks’ Dmitry Kulikov.
As per the players of interest for the Bruins ?
I really believe DeBrusk is going to be finally moved , 3 way deal ?
Seems like Bruins are zooming in on Barbashev , maybe the Russian defenseman
MAybe you guys can trade Craig Smith for jeannot. It’s free up cap room for other moves and he is a young feisty bottom 6 guy.
I don’t think the Predators would do that. Smith is 33 and is regressing. I guess he must have the same value as a Hoffman wich is not that much.
Sometimes I wonder if Brooksie even has insider info on Rangers team he covers. Now he hears things in Nashville? Amazing how he’s put Jeannot into comments. A big kid who hits and drops gloves often, while scoring over 20 goals his 1st full season, but only has 5 this season. Whether Preds are considered buyers or sellers, I’m not sure why they’d trade him.
Read today that Sens are holding Motte out of lineup today for “trade reasons”. Brooksie will now shift attention to him.
Where’s the integrity? Lordy.
Slick62, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Motte go back to the Rangers – he’s an aggressive, effective fore-checker who did that job well for NY before Ottawa grabbed him … maybe for the 4th round pick the Rangers got from Vancouver when they dealt for him the first time.
Well George. I guess you’re right. Motte to NYR for Gauthier
Yeah, just saw that – Gauthier and a conditional 7th round pick. Good for Motte – goes back to a playoff-bound team and he will be a help on their checking line. Solid pro,
Slick62 or Captain Obvious – you guys see a lot more of the Rangers than me – it looks, on the surface, that despite being a 1st round pick (21st overall), and a big kid (6′ 4″), Gauthier has never really been able to “break out.” What’s his game like?
One thing for sure, Ottawa is more likely to be referred to as “the flying Frenchmen” than the Habs – they have 3 – Drouin, Savard, Montembeault.
Ottawa now has Giroux, Joseph, Gauthier, Brassard, Chabot and Mandolese.
George, this guy has all the tools you’ll love. Size , speed etc. he just can’t seem to finish or put it all together.
It’s a little bizarre, It seems every great scoring chance is a breakaway or finding open space, but he just can’t finish.
I hope he finds a place in Ottawa.
Motte and Accairi were high on my wish list. One out of two ain’t bad.
Heh. Sounds like we got another Mike Fisher! Same modus operandi – steals, breakaways – and more often than not would miss the net. Can reach a lot of stuff in hockey – scoring ain’t one of them. Well, if he can become a good defensive F through regular use and coaching he certainly has the size t be effective in that role.
Hands and finish, George. He has everything else. There’s still time for him, though. He’s a big bugger.
Hey, Ken. There’s no trade for Debrusk unless he asked for it again, and I’m almost certain he hasn’t.
1st line minutes on the 1st place team. PP and PK time. An encouraging and upbeat coach and system. A great inclusive dressing room led by Bergeron. Who’d want out of that situation?
Agreed! Debrusk has found great chemistry with Marchand and Bergeron on that top line. He’s a top line winger on a $4M contract. No reason to move him at all.
“teach” not “reach”
From what I read the other day, B’s GM doesn’t want to touch his team’s chemestry. I highly doubt he will trade DeBrusk, he might try to make a deal similar to the Leafs.
+ If the Bruins trade a player in the off season, I think there is more chances they trade Carlo than Debrusk and that is ”If” they have to move a player.
Re Boston & LD men;❗️
I think Boston is in on Jackets LD/man Gavrikov now for sure as there #1choice,
Sounds like they were looking at Coyotes.
Jakob Chychrun……But they were asking to much for him as a 2nd pairing d/man and could not get a deal done
It Sounds like AZ have a tough time Making trades at this rate… He may not get moved at all and may not even return to the Coyotes at this rate….
I feel Sorry for the kid, this crap has been going on with AZ for over a year now…⁉️
These AZ guys are just a Gong Show, some friends who are Snow birds say its a big distraction down there, along with this arena deal still going No Where… lots of fans think they may move to Houston as they cant get it sorted out with Tempe City Council for the new area…❗️
Garry B may have to sell his winter house down there in AZ ..😂
CArolina looked great last night and not sure they need much but perhaps they upgrade their 2c Andy snack bottom 6 depth.
To VAN: KK, a 1st and prospect not on current nhl team roster
To CAR: Miller
To SJ: 3rd rd pick
To CAR: Bonino
Two centers. Bonino adds depth for face offs Inc playoffs with playoff experience.
player-wise, I think those make some sense. But I just don’t see the Canes taking on that JT Miller contract long-term. I’m not sure I see *anybody* wanting that contract long-term.
If he was a UFA, I think Miller would have already been traded.
From the broadcast last night, it was repeatedly mentioned GM Waddell likes players with term as that is their culture in trades. That the Canes rarely if ever trade for players on expiring contracts.
Miller is n term and he basically replaces Patches cap hit. Moving KK frees up 3m when you combine his 4 with Patches 7. Giving them room to still update the roster this summer.
Imo he is exactly the physical 2 way center they need to “ keep up with the jones” after NY , NY, TML have upgraded and Boston isn’t firing on all cylinders.
Also Staal, though good, is getting older and perhaps he signs for less than 6 million going forward. jT is still young enough.
All IMO. Win win for both clubs
Bruins and Canes will add centers imho. Will Tampa make an addition anywhere? Who does not want Barbeshev? he fits the Avs biggest need
Cant see the NJD doing any rental deals as their window is going to be open for some time…but they would swing a Timo Meier or similar player in their prime.
When it comes to Miller, it’s safe to say never.
Like the player, but that term and $$ amount make it a “never”.
Doubtful Vancouver holds any significant portion of Millers contract for 7 more years making it near impossible to move him unless it’s an equally ugly contract coming back.
Safe to say we can bury Miller rumors for the next 5-6 years when retention is more palatable. However, by then he’ll be 34-35 and nowhere near the player he is today.
Is the ink on that deal even dry yet? This is a team I’d like to see succeed. They have some good pieces, but god do they make a 💩 show out of things!
i agree “CO” . Vancouver is a good team. I thought during the “bubble time” , they were headed in the right direction and just like the Flyer’s they went the other way? It must be bad management wise up there because they have some talent. I Thought they should have held onto Markstrom, then they moved Horvat. Now it seems like they’re going to trade Demko? I’m probably forgetting other guys they have lost? I don’t get it. However, I would like to see them succeed. GO AVS!!!!!!
If Boston is looking for a LD, wouldn’t it seem they plan on moving one of their present LD?
Lindholm, Grzelcyk and Forbort are the present 3 d on the left side.
It won’t be Lindholm
Leaving Grzelcyk and Forbort.
Grzelcyk is offensive minded, good skater and good first pass player. Tend to fold under heavy pressure or a potential hit.
Forbort, very little offense, solid PK and blocks a ton of shots. Not overly physical but has the size to stand up and to take the physical play.
Grzelcyk cap hit is $3,697,500
Forbort is $3m
Both have another year on their contract.
I believe most teams would want Grzelcyk because of his offensive game.
Grzelcyk is also the player who I would move out. His skill set is covered bu McAvoy and Lindholm
Forbert is decent on the PK. He gets killed 5vs5.
Grizz is a far superior player in almost every other aspect.
We need a quarterback and a defensive stalwart on all 3 pairs.
I’d move Reilly, Greer, and Smith.
Sop
Why would you move Greer. Almost league minimum and contributes to team in positive way. He will most likely be 13th forward. If they can move Smith. You will have to add sweetener to move Reilly and probably Smith unless is included to offset incoming salary from trade. I am 100% ok moving Gryz in pkg for non rental either winger like Meir. Or Chychrun I am also ok trading 1st rd picks prospects for right players Will probably be picking last anyway
I have no counter, Mr. Bruin. Just how I feel about said players. Greer doesn’t bring anything special to the squad. Reilly is good. Just overpaid by a million +. He can fit on a team looking for his attributes.
Smith is a volume shooter who has never fit in. Again, overpaid by a million +. His best days were in Nashville, but he does generate plays. Grizz is far more valuable and needed than all 3 of those players.
Sop
That is fair. I still think Sweeney is trying to pull a big deal out trying to figure how to get the cap space he needs. If unsuccessful he will probably add a 3 rd line winger and depth d man
Why not go crazy and blow it up?
Reilly, Smith, Carlo and Grez to SJ for Karlson a 4th and Harrington
Then flip a 3 rd to Van for Schenn
Karlson better than Grez and Carlo.
Schenn can be Karlson new partner. Leave BOS 3rd pairing as is.
Disagree sop, Grzelcyk is not superior in every cat.
Blocking shot and killing Penalty isn’t even close.
I will take Forbort 3rd pairing 5 vs 5 over Grzelcyk 2nd pairing come playoff time.
Whatever it is Grizz does, Boston already has it cover.
No reason at all to move Greer he is an effective energy 4th line player at league min.
Moving Smith, Reilly and Grzelcyk would be a huge bonus to Boston. Especially if Chychrun came thru the doors.
Just so im clear, I take Clifton over Grzelcyk, at least he hits.
Hughes doesn’t feel any pressure to trade Edmundson or Hoffman as they have a year left on their contracts. Unless he’s blown away by an offer, and he won’t be, they’re more likely to be dealt a year from now.
Monahan may very well be at the point, due to his injuries, where re-signing a 1 year deal with the Habs is the best option for both team and player. If he comes back strong and stays healthy next year, he can garner a solid return at the deadline and ink a longer term deal somewhere. If injuries continue to plague him, then who knows.
Drouin and Dadanov won’t be back next year. They could probably be dumped off for mid round picks. But as Friedman indicated, Hughes may feel it better to hang onto them as a way of shielding the young players in an injury depleted lineup.
Predicting Bertuzzi’s future with the Wings, and his value to Detroit and on the trade market is difficult. He is at his best as a tenacious corner man and as a netfront nuisance, I also see in his recent play a willingness to correct 3 areas of his game that have driven coaches and fans mad, and caused me to want him gone. He has reduced his turnovers, which were often caused by trying to use his average stick handling skills to skate through defenders when he shouldn’t. He also has cut down his senseless penalties, and is getting back on defense much more often. I wonder what Mr. Yzerman and other GM’s are thinking about him.
doubt Yzerman will be able to get a 1st rounder (especially in this year’s draft) for Bertuzzi. Considering the team is currently within range of a playoff spot, it might be a thank you to the fans (for going through the rebuild) to hold onto Bertuzzi and Larkin and go for the spot.
But it wouldn’t be wise to trade a 1st (or prospects) at the deadline for a rental (but if he could get a younger player under control for a few years, it would be worth it)
I believe in a hockey trade for Bertuzzi like Tyler Sequin, if he would except a trade to us.
Mike, I agree. I think the only scenario where Detroit spends assets to upgrade is if they can find a player who fills a need and has at least 5 more good years of production in him. And those are tough to find, and won’t come cheap.
Re Habs…
and moving Dead wood out,
They want to give the young guys more time and continue the re build
Edmundson or Hoffman as they have a year left on their contracts.
Hoffman could be moved for a late pick with teams retaning salary for a late pick 6-7th..?
Joel Edmundson
Big George Laraque said last week that the Oilers should Not look at Edmundson as has Very Bad back problems,
The Oilers were intrested in the LD man But now it has cooled off completely, they wont bother with JE.
Drouin and Dadanov are ufa’s dont know if there is a market for them…?
Monahan could be there only trade chip…?
also, sorry I don’t follow the love for Korpisalo, for years everyone says Columbus has such talented goalies in him and Merzlikis, but I really don’t see it. goaltending is one of the major reasons Columbus is on target to draft Bedard
mikeP, Korpisalo – or Merziklins – are hardly the reason why Columbus is wallowing near the bottom. They lead the league – by a wide margin – in man-games lost to injury and at the moment are without Werenski, Voracek, Nyquist, Bean, Danforth, Chinakhov and Meyer.
And yet last night knocked off a top team in Dallas, 4-1, with Korpisalo stopping 28 of 29 shots. On the season, despite all their injury problems elsewhere throughout the roster, he has a quite decent 3.23gaa and 0.912 save %.
IF they ever make him available in a trade, I’m sure Dorion would be all over that like fleas on a dog.
Yes, and if you ever watch Columbus, they are really bad at turning the puck over, team wise. I can remember the Avalanche winning two games against them that they didn’t really play that well. Still came out on top. So, I don’t believe it is necessarily the goaltending. Maybe it’s not as good as it should be but every time I see Columbus, they are horrendous defensively. GO AVS!!!
Tanner Jeannot would be an ideal pick up for Toronto. He would be an awesome addition with Acciari and Aston-Reese on the 4th line. His low cap hit and RFA status helps too as he’s not a rental.
Daryl
What are leaf’s going to offer preds for him that they would say let’s make the deal?
Leafs should trade Matthew Knies to Nashvillle for Tanner Jeannot and a 2nd round pick.
They’d be fortunate to get Jeannot for Knies – never mind getting a 2nd rounder to boot – which is where Knies was drafted. Or are you suggesting that there were 56 mistakes before the Leafs got him with the 57th pick?
George you know that happens all the time up and down the draft throughout the years, thought I don’t know if it has for the Leafs. Also that draft year was as blind as one can be. Anyone drafted that year can be a home run no matter where drafted. Maybe they are all busts; we’ll know soon enough. Go Covid!
@Daryl
I would love to see Tanner Jeannot in a Leafs uniform .
The cupboard is bare as far as picks
No cap room to sign him , unless a roster player is moved out
Leafs will have to dip into their talent pool
MrBruin4 – Ken
Not sure what NSH would need in a trade and you’re right…not many picks left to trade.
What is the ask for a 3rd/4th line player…a 2nd or 3rd round pick? Leafs have no 2nd or 3rd this year or next. What they do have is a player like Holmberg who projects to be a 3rd line C.
The Leafs also have Robertson, Niemela, Minten, Voit, and Knies.
As for room to re-sign Jeannot next season? The Leafs will have the money from UFAs Kerfoot, Holl, Engvall ($7.75M) Also looks like Muzzin is done for his career so there is another $5.65M I think Jeannot would come in at $1.5M for 3 years.
Ken, that talent pool they’d dip into has been ranked 19th by the Hockey Writers consensus evaluation where they say “(each of their top 5) was selected in the second or third rounds. If they decide to trade any of their future first-round picks, it will likely be to get them over the hump this year, “the hump” being the Lightning who are by far the most likely team that will be standing between Toronto and the second round of the playoffs.”
Well, they’ve done that in the O’Reilly deal. Not much there as enticements for any significant returns.”
I did see, however, that Matt Murray has been transferred to his favorite abode – the LTIR – so that frees up hos cap hit down the stretch. IF he eventually comes off LTIR it won’t be until season’s end – just before the playoffs.
George O
Do not worry where a player was picked when evaluating what their value is in a trade. How many “re-drafts” have we seen where a low pick moves way up after a few more years?
Take Nick Robertson for example. Had he been just a few days younger he would have been a slam dunk top 1st round pick after scoring 55 goals in the OHL. He was the youngest player picked his draft year.
Topi Niemela was voted top defenceman at the WHC and is playing pro hockey in Sweden since he was 17.
The Leafs have tradable assets. They’re not at the top of the NHL in prospects but they’re cupboard isn’t as bare as other top NHL teams. Look at PIT…an aging core and bare cupboards.
Yes Daryl your right about where they are picked George thinks leafs prospects are garbage Robertson is a good example of where he would have been picked another is Knies in the re-draft he was a top 15 pick they have some good value picks that have turned out better from where they were drafted.
There you go putting words in my mouth again, Man on TV. I have NEVER said that. If I’m saying anything it’s that too many among the Leafs faithful are easily swayed by the hype that emanates from certain aspects of the Toronto media. Now, you show me where any consensus said that Knies would have been a top 15 pick in another draft. Not just one pundit – I mean a consensus. Right now he’s a prospect. Period.
“ I’m saying… it’s that too many among the Leafs faithful are easily swayed by the hype that emanates from certain aspects of the Toronto media.’
Completely agree that is so true by any fan who follows their team. All fans over value their team and players and really undervalue other teams to a grading system in-line to how much of a fan they are of said team.
Can you tell me that’s not the case? Look how much value people place on first round draft picks where only about 60% make it past 100 games in the NHL, that’s just players not stars or anything special, over an actual player or known quantity.
Fandom is exactly as it’s meaning of its origin, fanatical, crazy”s cousin.
George O
C’mon George…I know you’re no fan of the Leafs but do not discount their draft picks just because they were drafted by the Leafs.
You think it’s never happened before where a player slipped through the cracks? Look how many players the Red Wings got late… Datsyuk, Zetterberg…
Even look at OTT…Karlsson was drafted in the middle of round one…Subban round 2, Keith round 2. It happens all the time.
If the Leafs offered up Knies…teams would be interested…including the Senators
Daryl, I’m not suggesting Knies WON’T become a good pro – he very well might – but right now he’s the 32nd best points producer in U.S. college ranks, and until he can show that he can play the same game at the NHL level he remains a “prospect” with no guarantees either way. And as I said in that post, I’d wager that most of the 31 currently ahead of him in college points won’t ever see much NHL action. If at all. The history dictates that.
So, right now you have a prospect that some scouts are high on. OK. But that’s been the case in a lot of picks over the years, including some very high up in the 1st round, and there have been quite a number who simply could not deliver the same game at the NHL level despite rave reviews.
Jeannot, on the other hand, has proven himself in a specific role at the NHL level and, clearly, is someone a LOT of team would like to acquire – IF Nashville ever decides to let him go. But if they did, why would they settle for a prospect that hasn’t proved squat as an NHLer AND give up a 2nd rounder along with Jeannot just to discover he can’t adjust to the NHL game.
I’m certainly not dismissing the guy just because he was drafted by the Leafs … but I am saying he has yet to progress beyond being a prospect. One of many taken in the 2nd round the past couple of years, all of whom were regarded as great picks by their organizations, and most of whom will not make it in the end.
With him being their first pick in 2021 after having traded away their 1st, I can understand the hope that they got a diamond in the rough, but are you prepared to go out on a limb say he’s a definite can’t miss and a star in the making?
Nashville isn’t giving up Jeannot AND a 2nd for a maybe.
You would think Pens and Vancouver and Pens and Calgary would be natural trading partners given Burke’s history. Boeser Ty Smith and a couple of picks as example. Same for Pelletier maybe a couple of higher picks and Ty Smith.
3 big fish out of the water with 11 days to go.
Doumolin and kapanen for OEL?
yes Daryl—JEANNOT–great idea
Would AZ accept this?
To NJ: Chychrun and Vejmelka
To Az: Severson, Blackwood, Holz and 1st
The 1st bc Chychrun has term and younger than Severson
Would aZ want Nemec too? Or good enough proposal for both sides
AZ can flip this assets if needed for more picks.
NJ creates a little more cap room for another move while getting value that can grow with this club.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/alex-ovechkin-putin-1.6726430
I see where you’re coming from, Caper, but aren’t you the same fellow who wanted to trade Debrusk for Virtanen or Athanasiou?
Forbort can kill penalties at the bottom of the box alongside Carlo. They protect half the net while the goalie gets the other half. Outside of his size and knack for scoring shorties, Forbort isn’t an upgrade over Grizz, and it isn’t even close. I do like Clifton, though. He’s involved everywhere.
Well he will have to agree to disagree Sop.
I seen enough of playoff Grzelcyk to say good bye
As I posted before good regular season player, terrible playoff player. The +/- don’t lie.
Sop, I also said I trade him for JP and at that time, I was told no way Edmonton gives JP straight up for Debrusk.
If this was still the Debrusk of two seasons ago, I would still make them trades.
However a new coach and a new attitude Debrusk is playing the hockey he played in his first season.
A change of coach, brought out the JD of old.
Sop these are my opinions and I don’t share your view of Grzelcyk.
I did say Forbort is a third pairing D who can kill penalties and clear the net, and win battles along the boards.
Grzelcyk is a 2nd pairing dman, who was suppose to replace Krug, unfortunately that didn’t happen
Grzelcyk will bring back more in a trade then Forbort and carries a bigger cap hit.
To your point any team trading would want Grzelcyk over Forbort and this isn’t a bad thing.
Sop all good just two different view points.
Things ain’t working out for Chicago this deadline so far are they now?
Well he will have to agree to disagree Sop.
I seen enough of playoff Grzelcyk to say good bye
As I posted before good regular season player, terrible playoff player. The +/- don’t lie.
Sop, I also said I trade him for JP and at that time, I was told no way Edmonton gives JP straight up for Debrusk.
If this was still the Debrusk of two seasons ago, I would still make them trades.
However a new coach and a new attitude Debrusk is playing the hockey he played in his first season.
A change of coach, brought out the JD of old.
Sop these are my opinions and I don’t share your view of Grzelcyk.
I did say Forbort is a third pairing D who can kill penalties and clear the net, and win battles along the boards.
Grzelcyk is a 2nd pairing dman, who was suppose to replace Krug, unfortunately that didn’t happen
Grzelcyk will bring back more in a trade then Forbort and carries a bigger cap hit.
To your point any team trading would want Grzelcyk over Forbort and this isn’t a bad thing.
Sop all good just two different view points.
All good, Caper. Excellent exchange!
Quick question as I still try to figure out injured reserve with cap hit. Toews is apparently out till at least the playoffs. Could a team trade for Kane and Toews making a net 0 cap hit then if Toews comes back for the playoffs you can have both. If not then you still negated Kanes cap hit
A team could trade for Nyqvist put him on Ltir and then Kane at 1/2 salary and have the same result.