NHL Rumor Mill – March 22, 2021
The latest on the Leafs, Bruins and Devils plus an update on Pavel Buchnevich in today’s NHL rumor mill.
SHOULD THE LEAFS TRADE ANDERSEN?
TORONTO STAR: Mark Zwolinski reports there’s talk the Maple Leafs should shop Frederik Andersen before the upcoming trade deadline despite his history of regular-season success. He’s battling a lower-body injury and can become an unrestricted free agent this summer. Backup Jack Campbell has put up better numbers in limited action this season but has also had his injury woes this season.
Toronto Maple Leafs goaltender Frederik Andersen (NHL Images).
Zwolinski speculates Andersen could be in a backup role in the coming spate of games to work with goaltending coach Steve Briere. After that, he feels Andersen should return to the starter’s role or be dealt before the April 12 deadline. “There’s no sense keeping a $5 million-a-year goalie in the backup role for long.” However, he acknowledged the risk that Andersen could help another team make a long playoff run.
TORONTO SUN: Lance Hornby doesn’t see Andersen going anywhere. The Leafs lack an experienced third option within their system as witnessed by Michael Hutchinson’s inconsistent play. The 14-day quarantine for players acquired from American clubs leaves little time to break in a new acquisition, there’s limited salary-cap space and management is focused on a top-six forward and blueline depth.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Andersen’s critics don’t care about those points raised by Hornby, they just want him gone. Leafs general manager Kyle Dubas, however, probably doesn’t share that view for exactly the reasons espoused by Hornby. Besides, it’ll take a fair bit of creativity and salary-cap gymnastics to ship out Andersen, bring in a suitable replacement and still pursue a top-six winger and perhaps a defenseman.
If the Leafs were to attempt to trade Andersen there might not be much of a market for his services. Many contenders have limited salary-cap space and more pressing issues elsewhere on their roster.
NHL Network’s Kevin Weekes recently reported sources claiming interest in heating up in Los Angeles’ Jonathan Quick, Detroit’s Jonathan Bernier (though he’s currently sidelined) and San Jose’s Devan Dubnyk. Those options could be more palatable to teams seeking goaltending depth for the playoffs.
WHAT WILL THE BRUINS DO AT THE DEADLINE?
BOSTON HOCKEY NOW: In a recent mailbag segment, Joe Haggerty was asked what the Bruins will do to address their anemic secondary scoring and injury-battered blueline. He cautions against giving up too much for a short-term fix for a club that might not be a legitimate Stanley Cup contender this season.
Nashville’s Mattias Ekholm would be a great fit on the Bruins’ defense but he won’t move the needle offensively. He doesn’t consider Buffalo Sabres winger Taylor Hall a pure goal scorer. Anaheim’s Rickard Rakell might be a better option but Haggerty is leery of taking him on, pointing to the Ducks’ offensive woes and low position in the standings. Other trade targets could be Detroit’s Bobby Ryan, Anthony Mantha or Marc Staal or New Jersey’s Kyle Palmieri or Dmitry Kulikov.
Jimmy Murphy recently reported multiple sources claiming the Bruins are scouting Columbus Blue Jackets defenseman David Savard. GM Don Sweeney is also continuing to monitor the situation with Ekholm and St. Louis Blues rearguard Vince Dunn. The Predators and Blues recently scouted the Bruins.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Sweeney is being lambasted daily by his critics as Boston clings to the final playoff spot in the MassMutual East Division. Cap Friendly indicates the Bruins have $5.9 million in trade deadline cap space. However, their lack of sufficient tradeable assets makes it difficult to outbid other clubs in the trade market.
Haggerty made a great point that it might not be worthwhile wasting futures on short-term fixes on a club whose Stanley Cup window may be closed. That’s something Sweeney must carefully consider. Sacrificing the future for immediate returns that might not advance their Stanley Cup hopes will only cost them down the road, especially when they have aging core players like Patrice Bergeron, Tuukka Rask and Brad Marchand.
WILL THE DEVILS MOVE PALMIERI OR SUBBAN?
NEWSDAY: Andrew Gross wonders if New York Islanders GM Lou Lamoriello will target Kyle Palmieri before the trade deadline. The New Jersey Devils’ winger is slated to become an unrestricted free agent at season’s end.
Lamoriello is in the market to replace sidelined captain Anders Lee, who suffered a season-ending knee injury. Gross believes Palmieri would be a good fit as he plays the type of hard-edge game Isles coach Barry Trotz prefers. He’s also tallied at least 24 goals in each of his full five seasons with the Devils.
BOSTON HOCKEY NOW (via FLORIDA HOCKEY NOW): Jimmy Murphy reports Devils defenseman P.K. Subban is surfacing more frequently in trade rumors. He has a year remaining on his contract with a $9 million salary-cap hit but there’s a sense Devils GM Tom Fitzgerald would be willing to pick up a good portion of it. Subban has improved his defensive play while still logging big minutes and can still contribute to the power play.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Palmieri has expressed an interest in re-signing with the Devils and the two sides are said to have engaged in preliminary discussions. Nevertheless, Fitzgerald could consider moving the veteran winger if the cost of re-signing him proves too expensive. His current cap hit is $4.65 million and he could seek a substantial pay raise.
Murphy also pointed out Subban’s contract could be difficult to move right now even if the Devils picked up half his cap hit. That doesn’t mean he couldn’t be moved in the offseason but a trade-deadline deal seems remote.
UPDATE ON BUCHNEVICH
NEW YORK POST: A week after suggesting the Rangers face an important decision on whether to re-sign or move Pavel Buchnevich at the trade deadline, Larry Brooks believes the answer is re-signing the winger. He points out Buchnevich has become a productive top-six winger and a complete player with a strong work ethic at both ends of the ice, suggesting the Blueshirts re-sign him to a four- or five-year deal worth $5.5 million annually.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Buchnevich is a restricted free agent with arbitration rights this summer. He’ll also be a year away from UFA eligibility. It’ll be interesting to see what he and the Rangers eventually agree to.
GREAT thought – Trade F.Anderson …
Whatever we can get .., Go FOR IT… I want to see the end of him ..He hasn’t got us out of the first round , 5 appearances ….this year is a disaster , and it won’t get Better ..
Jonathan Quick available ?
Sure, .. sounds good ..
Why not Nashville’s netminder , perfect rental, and he can bolt back to Nashville , include Ekholm in the package
Reimer for Andersen 🙂
What??? Me Worry ……
https://oilersnation.com/2020/08/02/what-me-worry/
No chance the Leafs move Andersen. Its fine if Campbell is the #1 but I’d rather know I can fall back on freddy than Hutch.
Who needs him? and what are they replacing him with?
Being a huge Bruins fan, I don’t think they have a chance this year to even get out of the East, let alone go to the finals. Now is the perfect opportunity to move some pieces and restock the cupboard for the long haul. If done right, they could even be better next year and an actual Cup favorite.
Rask says he only wants to play in Boston long term. Does he even want to play next year? Pretty sure a deal could be made where they trade him but assure him they will resign him for next year.
Send Rask to Colorado for Graves and Grubauer. Gives the Avs their top tier goalie and gives Boston much needed help on the left side of the D.
Send Krejci to NYI for a prospect (Koivula, Wilde or Salo) or two and a pick. Bos retains 50% salary.
And look at moving Halak, Kuraly, Kuhlman and Debrusk.
I agree with your assessment that the Bruins simply cannot add enough talent to contend this season, and should be sellers to begin the rebuild process. But I don’t think either of your trade proposals are realistic. Grubauer has outplayed Rask so far this season so Boston would be getting the upgrade in net, not the Av’s, and adding Graves to the haul is a pipedream. And aging pending UFA Krejci has nowhere near the value that you assigned to him.
lago have to disagree with you, at present yes Grubauer has better numbers, but no one expect Grubauer to be able to carry the Av’s to the Cup final.
Agree i wouldn’t trade Grubauer but if being able to add Rask would be of great benefit to Colorado to have two options. Goaltending is what killed the Av’s last year.
Krecji is a UFA a rental and would absolutely garner a ton of interest from teams to add for a playoff run.
Caper, I agree that Rask is a potential starting goalie for a Cup contending team, but I don’t think Colorado is the right one. I think Toronto or Washington make more sense. And the same with Krecji…Islanders, Pittsburgh, Edmonton, or Calgary could be interested, but we disagree on the asking price.
Well the Leaf fans want a new goalie, how about Rask for Anderson, the Leafs first this year and whoever that little guy was they drafted in 1st round last year, Amirov.
B’s eat the salary difference to facilitate.
Anderson gets healthy, help us in the playoffs, the Leafs blow a trade involving Rask twice.
This season? Grubauer has had better numbers over the last 5 years. Colorado is looking for a goalie but is not giving up Grubuaer. Compare his stats to all of the NHL goalies that played more than 150 games since the 2015-2016 season.
Lol Ray. Oooh, that’s cruel
Lol seriously these comments are great.
Ray Bark:
Frederik Andersen – playoff
series deciding games:
Year – SA – SV – SV%
2014 – 12 – 08 – .667
2015 – 27 – 25 – .926
2015 – 19 – 17 – .895
2015 – 26 – 21 – .808
2016 – 20 – 18 – .900
2017 – 36 – 34 – .944
2018 – 35 – 29 – .829
2019 – 30 – 27 – .900
2020 – 21 – 19 – .905
Total – 226 – 198 – .876
Tukka Rask – playoff
series deciding games:
Year – SA – SV – SV%
2010 – 30 – 27 – .900
2010 – 27 – 23 – .852
2013 – 28 – 24 – .857
2013 – 29 – 28 – .966
2013 – 26 – 26 – 1.000
2013 – 31 – 28 – .903
2014 – 33 – 31 – .939
2014 – 18 – 15 – .833
2017 – 29 – 26 – .897
2018 – 24 – 20 – .833
2018 – 21 – 19 – .905
2019 – 33 – 32 – .970
2019 – 39 – 39 – 1.000
2019 – 24 – 24 – 1.000
2019 – 20 – 16 – .800
Total – 412 – 378 – .917
If Boston’s GM made that trade, he should be fired.
I need to work on my delivery I guess.
The Shrike – it was just a joke so I could talk shat to Leaf fans.
I didn’t mean to have you spend time looking up save %’s for series deciding games from the last decade.
I know both goalies.
But I will say that if Anderson had played with the B’s vs the Leafs over the last 5 years his numbers would be better than they are with TOR. May have even had some series wins.
Both Rask and Grubauer are UFAs at the end of the season. Grubauer wasn’t even expected to be the starter this year. Sakic was trying for Rask before the season started. So to say Grubauer is an upgrade is ludicrous. I only said Grubauer to offset some of the money….. take their backup and retain some of his cap hit and add to the haul a bit.
Krejci is a year younger than Bergeron, is #2C on just about every team in the league (#1 on some) and slow the play down. Easily a player some teams would want for a playoff push.
I bet you said the same in 2011 lol
Actually, no I didn’t. The 2011 team was MUCH stronger than this one. Chara, Bergeron, Lucic, Horton, Krejci were all in their prime. Thomas was killing it in goal. No comparison for with the current team.
I did a little research on Rask’s and Grubauer’s recent performance. I looked at the 2020 playoffs, the current season, and the current season’s games against the three other teams currently holding playoff positions. First, 2020 playoffs: Rask – 2.57 GAA, .904 Save Percentage. Grubauer, 1.87 GAA, .922 S.P. Next, current season: Rask – 2.46 GAA, .906 S.P. Grubauer – 1.79 GAA, .929 S.P. Finally, current season against playoff holding teams: Rask ( Wash. Pitt. NYI) – .914 S.P. Grubauer (VGK StL. Minn) – .930 S.P. I was too lazy to calculate the GAA for this Stat. It is tough for me to agree that Rask is currently the better goalie, although he certainly has the better reputation.
This would be a smart move but I don’t think Sweeney is all that smart.
I could be wrong, but I just don’t see the Jackets trading with Boston. Even if Savard is available (which isn’t certain), Boston simply doesn’t have anything the Jackets can use.
Nice one, Ray, thanks for the reminder.
Leafs and Bruins making a trade – Are there two moons in the sky, pigs flying?
Hey now. Don and Kyle swapped 7th rounders just last season.
They have built the foundation.
Trading Andersen makes perfect sense. He’s making $5M and is in line for a raise and the Leafs are up against the cap. Numerous clubs are in dire straits with their goaltending so there is a market. Additionally, the Blue Jackets would be awesome dance partners in a blockbuster deal involving Foligno, Merzlikins and salary retention for Kerfoot, Andersen and prospects.
Walter …. I’ll do that trade in a heartbeat.
Lol – yeah, I bet you would … I’d also bet that Jarmo Kekalainen would not.
Dubas and Holland are about to announce a blockbuster trade
Andersen, 5 million
Rielly 5 million
Kerfoot 3.5 million
Nylander 6.9 million
Total cap 20.4 million
in return for :
Koskinen 4,5 million
Kassian 3.2
McDavid 12.5
Total cap 20.2 million
Gives TML long term goaltending, truculence and somebody to lead TML to the promised land.
Gives Edmonton a goalie they can sign or let go, a young sniper, a solid 3C and an offensively minded D,
Apparently Dubas is unsure about it and Holland is anxious to reunite Kerfoot with Barrie
Too funny.
C’m’on…. 🙂
Habfan30… Finally, somebody who understands the inner workings of NHL GMs. Brilliant trade proposal. McDavid will definitely help the Leafs second line centre VOID. I’ll say that will undoubtedly be the best one two punch down the middle in the history of the NHL. Mathews/McDavid, Gretzky/Messier,
Lemieux/Jagr
Sakic/Forsberg
Yzerman/Fedorov
Crosby/Malkin
Edmonton finally fulfill Draisitle’s wish of being the ONE and his desire to become Captain. Nylander will benefit immensely playing alongside Draisitle as it’s a huge upgrade from Tavares. Morgan Reilly will be cemented with Nurse as their top defense paring. Anderson will be their goalie for the next 7 years. Kerfoot will do wonders aligned with Ennis to form Mini line.
I think Dubas probably lose a lot of sleep over this trade proposal, as he is giving up franchise goalie, franchise defenseman, a game changer in Nylander as well as pesty energizer bunny in Kerfoot. While, Ken Holland can’t sleep a wink due to his Christmas Eve like anticipation of the possibility of basically stealing the HEART out of TORONTO.
McDavid is a fine player, but at some point, Edmonton has to make a decision knowing McDavid wants to play for his hometown Leafs. You can’t let him just walk off in a few years when he becomes UFA.
I think Edmonton totally rob TO in this trade.
Dubas might even get FIRED if he makes this trade.
Hi Mike/WH17
Re
“ You can’t let him just walk off in a few years when he becomes UFA.”
That is precisely the situation re AM and Leafs
I can’t fathom any chance AM is still a Leaf on 1/7/24
Krakken will offer him the C and $14 M per * 7
The equivalent take home (after tax ) , which is around $8.9 M per on $14 M in Seattle, needs a $19 M Sal in Toronto
Even if miraculously the Cap gets to $86M in ‘24/‘25…. the max he can get from Toronto is $17.2 M (20%) * 8…. that nets him take home over 8 years of
~ $64 M
To match…, Seattle does 7 years at $14.4 M to get him ~ $64 M take-home; and then he is signing either an extension or UFA contract at 33 instead of 34 …. so will get a higher pay per year and one extra year of pay
Above figures/calcs per Gavingroup
The long and short of it… if no cup by June ‘23…. Leafs need to trade AM and get what they possibly can for him
Krakken should have a very good prospect pool by then
If Leafs trade AM to Krakken any day in July after 1/7/23 ; his SB is paid…. only owed $775 K; still 25 at the time; and that entitles Krakken to give him an 8 year extension on/after 1/1/24 ; when he has just recently (3 1/2 months earlier) turned 26
That trade nets Leafs a bundle
Just giving s possible reality check
Re McD…. Oil have him under contract until 30/6/26 (he’d be 29 then) but could extend him on 1/7/25 when he is still 28 (and still likely the best player in the league)
The 5 year contract for AM was just maniacal 🤬😡💩🤬😡💩
Lemieux jagr?
Maybe lemieux Francis.
Or unretired Lemieux crosby.
Jags never played no center.
Wouldn’t happen to be selling a bridge, would you?
2422,
just thought I’d give the TML fans the type of trade they keep offering up.
Remember, Kerfoot is a guy every team is looking for, he’s the centrepiece of this deal
Yep. Kerfoot was THE ingredient that was to convince Poile to give up Granlund AND Ekholm.
Hi Habfan30
McD doesn’t come to T.O. a minute before (at the very least) AM leaves
AM for sure gone on 1/7/24 but if Leafs haven’t won cup by ‘23 , perhaps they think of moving him for 23/24 season for a bunch as they know he walks at end of his contract anyway
Pengy,
but but but it’s a cap in cap out….. 🙂
Hi Habfan30
Math there for sure, but so is McD (7% retained) for AM
Trade happening probability….. 1 in 100 trillion
Now Mike/WH17 will likely peg those trade odds at 50-50 though
I believe
1. Andersen finishes year with Leafs
2. Dubas will finagle some sort of trade; but
3. Leafs aren’t winning semis (that’s a big IF they get there) let alone cup; so trade chips given up take away from long term; and
4. Unless one of the big 4 are moved; Cap constraints next year also; so….seriously prohibiting a cup run in ‘22
Pengy,
I forgot to mention the follow up deal Dubas is working on with Chayka.
Going to Toronto
Ekman-Larsson 8.25
Kuemper 4.25
Cap hit 12.5
Going to Arizona
Matthews 11.6
Bogosian 1.00
cap hit 12.6
TML gets the D they need and a goalie when he gets off ir
Arizona gets their native son and a replacement on D
Apparently OEL approves the trade, looking forward to playing with McDavid.
Matthews unsure of the pressure in Arizona.
Wow TML is planning for the parade clean up as Dubas complete retooling gobsmacks Uncle Lou .
Come on Pengy. Matthews isn’t going anywhere!!!
Hi Habsfan30,
Chayka would agree to this deal in a second as he no longer is in the organization; and because it’s the deal of the century for Arz…. might get 50% attendance one day
Dubas would be pummelled by Shanny LOL
Your neighbours in Montreal would give you the key to the city 👍👍
Hi YesGuy
Re
“ Come on Pengy. Matthews isn’t going anywhere!!!”
Not now…. but he won’t be a Leaf in 3 years, 3 months, 10 days; and possibly sooner
My guess is that he is traded to Krakken for a bundle in July of ‘23
Pengy.
oh my goodness, asleep at the wheel, my bad re Chayka, should have said Armstrong.
Dubas sure loves wheeling and dealing eh
TML fans must love this quick retool.
Hi Habsfan30
Texting at the wheel?? LOL
re “ TML fans must love this quick retool.”
Take the “re” out of that statement and you have nailed my true sarcastic sentiments re Dubas
@Pengy..hey two deals for you for our Pittsburgh penguins..
Deal #1
To Pittsburgh center, 24 Robbi Fabri $2.9 million signed through 2022.
To Detroit
24 Marcus Pettersson $4.025 signed through 2024 maybe we add a 3td round pick.
Teams exchange 24 year old players. Penguins get a fast young affordable 3rd line center. REd Wings get a second pairing defenseman at worst 3rd pair..
Deal #2
To Pittsburgh
31, center luke glendenning pending ufa @$1.8 million and defenseman Marc Stahl 34, pending ufa 50% retained.
To Detroit
Marcus pettersson, 24, signed through 2024 @ $4.025 million.
Penguins get a third line center excellent on face offs, good defensively, can get garbage playoff goals. And a tough solid defenseman who can play second or third pairing.
Detroit continues to build for the future with a young top 4 defenseman. At worst steady 3rd pairing affordable and young.
Which deal do you like thoughts?
Bng. Pens don’t have a third this year.
But
Number two has some merit if stevey likes Peterson.
habfan30
Kerfoot is the Leafs version of Paul Byron
Byron passed through waivers twice but you’ve got him in every trade suggestion…doubtful Kerfoot would pass through.
Hi BnG
Fabbri for Pettersson is the deal
Fabbri is basically a winger that Detroit has been testing out at C; and he’s doing reasonably. He is very fast 👍👍👍
Might take Pettersson and say Laffy to get him
Re Glendenning…. Pens under no circumstances should be going after him.
His expertise is on the dots and he is EXCELLENT at that
But that is it
Fabbri and Glendenning are about the same size but Fabbri is a bullet where Glendenning is more methodical and slower. Glendenning is 6 years older; and UFA. Glendenning; not being as fast as Fabbri, is also not as good defensively.
Fabbri can be taught to get better on the face-offs; Glendenning is slowly descending from his peak on on everything outside of the face-off circle
Staal… right name; wrong brother
Pens have excess on LHD; no need to bring another in
3C is the necessary target for Pens
E Staal; Carter(with retention) are low cost (asset give-up wise) acquisitions
Fabbri of course better long term
That said; if they could get E Staal for say Laffy & Ruhweedel ; and then turn Pettersson in trade into a middle 6 winger… ideal
Window is closing so the move has to have a reality check
The one suggestion I heard on the radio made me jump out of my seat… I wish that I’d come up with it… it was brilliant (yet far-fetched)
Of corse it is a multi-player move so highly unlikely; but boy did it sound great 👍👍👍👍
The premise behind the proposal focused on Sabres with their UFAs, needing a change, not yet having any LHDs (other than the diminutive Bryson and his 12 NHL games) under contract for next year; AND most importantly , wanting to jettison Okposo
Hall, Stall, Montour….. all at 50% retained; plus *Okposo at 10% retained
For
*Zucker; Pettersson; Ruhweedel; Lafferty
*Okposo (after 10 % retained) and Zucker were same term same Cap; and Okposo could be waived and demoted and/or bought out
Hall, Stall, Montour….. all at 50% retained… annual Cap $7.6 M
Pettersson; Ruhweedel; Lafferty….annual Cap $5.4 M
The proposal was that the $2.2 M difference at TDL was much smaller and should easily be covered by the Dumolin and Zucker LTIR savings to date
I did the math… the $2.2 M (annual) diff at TDL is in around the $600 K mark; well below the current LTIR savings from Dumo and Zucker
I would love that deal…. that would have Pens with
Sid/Guentz/Rusty
Gino/Kappy/Hall
Staal/McC/ Turbo or Rodrigues
Blueger/ZAR/Turbo or Rodrigues
Janko; Sceviour
Tanger/Dumo
**Montour/Matheson
**Marino/Riikola
Ceci/P-O J
Jarry/DeSmith
** Can be flipped based on play
and Okposo gets buried … only showing $4.33 M above …. he’d be waived to go down… absolutely no one would pick him up… if they did…. huge bonus to Pens
Pens then buy him out off season … Cap hit $4.5 M, $2.7 M. $0.9M and $0.9 M….all when they don’t need Cap space (window closed)…. and total cash cost…. $5.4 M to Pens spread out over 4 years
Easy sell to Pens on deal
Just as easy to sell to Adams…
Okposo replaced by Zucker
Plus 3 UFAs turned into 3 players under contract at least for next year; lower cap, lower cost
I loved it when I heard it
When I did the math and looked at the possible lines and D pairings, I loved it more
That line up can make the semis; then fingers crossed that Bolts and Knights are matched in the other semis; Pens roster above should beat any team in the North
Then it’s fingers; toes; eyes crossed in the SCFs for some sort of lapse by Knights or Bolts
Go Pens Go
NO MOVE CLAUSE in AM Last year!
Is today April 1st?
High RR
Yep…. daylight savings moved everything up
habfan30 … we’re still 10 days away from April 1.
Freddie Andersen will not be in Toronto after this season. If he is then Dubas needs to give his head a shake. The Leafs faithful need to remember that Toronto is still not a Cup favorite. You need to win at least a round in the playoffs at least once to be considered such. Freddie will not help in this regard this season. No way he beats Jets in a 7 game series with Hellebyuck in goal for them. And no way can he beat McDavid and Draisaitl 4 out of 7. If the Leafs finish first they will avoid these two; however, they can’s finish first with Andersen in goal. So this is another first round exit for the Leafs on the learning curve. Question is can Dubas finally get it right with this position? And just to qualify all of this I agree with those who say Freddie was strong during his tenure in Toronto; he was good before they were and they wore him out. Now they are good and he can’t support them. Campbell is very good but probably not the answer either. Is Rask a free agent? Still good enough behind a team like Toronto to get it done.
Rask to Toronto makes sense. Boston should start the rebuild, and Toronto needs a goalie and has picks and prospects of some value.
I think I have a firm grasp on this from reading all of the trades bandied about on here by Leaf and Ranger fans……so here is my submission:
Tuukka Rask, Jake Debrusk and a 4th round pick to the Leafs for Willy Nylander, Anderson, and a 2nd round pick,(turns into a 1st if the Leafs can win a round) plus the Leafs retain 50% salary on both players.
Fair? /s
Since we are in fantasy land today, can we add Morgan Rielly (LD) for (sorry Boston fans I want this man!) Bergeron. Do what ever to make that happen shy of trading Austin or Mitch. Both teams “win”.
Oh and welcome back to the rumor mill, Dunn and PK!
Hey don’t you think someone should tell Zwolinski that trading away a goalie who can help other teams go deep in the playoffs a bad idea if you happen to be a playoff bound team?
I guess it with the freedom of no accountability.
No but Campbell and Hutchinson shut them out
Chrisms…sorry maybe a 4th. Or something like that..
I like either deal.
Fabri is young,fast, affordable. Imagine a third line Fabri. McCann Tavev
You get mLkin back nice 3 at center. Crosby Malkin Fabri
Glendenning Stahl more likely
Dude. I’m not trying to be snarky. But. I don’t think they have a fourth either.
I don’t think the market for Anderson has anything to do with his abilities or lack of abilities. I think it will occur for $$$$$ reasons.
He has 5 million against the cap but only 1 million in real dollars. That means penny pinchers who won’t make the play offs can send any goalie making more than 1 million to the Leafs and save real dollars. A canadian prime minister is reputed to have said…” Nothing moves faster than a million dollars”
Some potential candidates for the above scenario….Vancouver (Holtby) Detroit,
San Jose, Ottawa, LA, Arizona, Dallas & Colombia.
I say he has to go….anyone who can make Calgary look like a good offensive team…..can’t be anyone’s goalie.
Hi OBD
I do see some merit in the cash savings angle for teams with tighter purse strings
But the cash difference at TDL first of all has to be partnered with the math of escrow and remaining amount of season at TDL
For example if Leafs find a trade partner whose goalie Cap is basically the same but their goalie’s posted Sal this year is say $4M…. then true cash diff at TDL is in the $650 K range
Leafs will still need to sweeten the pot as $650 K of $70M to $80 M budget is not much
Holtby has another year so that is less likely to happen
Andersen for Bernier nets Wings about $325 K
The trade won’t be for Murray (Sens)
Quick has 2 more years so that’s out
Bishop on LTIR, Khudobin has 2 more years; Dallas still clinging to hopes of getting in
Elvis or Korp for Andersen will cost a fair sweetener or two
Doobie would be great, but SJ only paying 50% of his Sal ; so Andersen/Doobie flip at TDL actually only saves 55 K for Sharks..that’s nothing… would love Doobie on Leafs… but again like Elvis or Korp… will cost a fair sweetener or two
Yotes can’t move Raanta right now as Kuemper is LTIR
Keumper is the move if any…. and that’s if he is expected to return relatively soon… the 14 day quarantine must be considered AND that trade will cost much more than would need to be given up for Elvis or Korp or Doobie
You’re right media in Boston have had it with Sweeney and low lustre performance year after year they’ve seen the light. Sweeney’s gotten away with two much already. Time to go for the gusto or go. I think after this season they’ll sweep Sweeney and Newley out and start fresh. They’re going to need to. They both sit up in their office all day and do nothing. Other gm’s are actually doing their job shaking things up. If they don’t bring in a big name I Won’t be watching another game.Boring
Would you be a lamb, and quit posting here as well?
Thanks in advance!
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Done and done.
Whether you think Boston should start a rebuild or not, it doesn’t matter; because they’re not.
Maybe Boston trade lower tier ufa such as Kuraly but they are not moving Rask, Halak or Krejci.
Sweeney and Neely will take one more run at the cup.
Boston is still one of the strongest defensive teams in the league and still have one of the best goaltenders.
The Bruins will add at the TDL will it be enough, will Sweeney give away another 1st round pick, will he move some players out.
Boston has just under $6m in TDL cap space certainly room to add and yes they will be adding.
Pengy
How about Greiss from DET?
Rinne is a UFA and the Preds aren’t going anywhere near the playoffs. Rinne’s cap is the same as Andersen’s.
I can’t see the Leafs trading Andersen but at what point does (or has) the team lose faith in him?
Hi Daryl
Rinne has basically the same numbers as Freddy this year and trade is partially in his control… 10 teams he has agreed to be traded to (provided a list)
Says he wants to remain on Predz
If Leafs not on list ; getting him to waive; while taking a big haircut in take-home pay; and going to a team that is still an extreme long-shot for cup even with him (to me he doesn’t move the needle past VGKs or Bolts anyway)… and Dubas has to get Poille to agree…. IMVHO not happening
Greiss …. worse numbers this year by far than Freddy; but he is on a brutal team…. a gamble that he’ll be better than Freddy if he joins Leafs. Certainly better than Freddy in playoffs… Greiss is a possibility for a Dubas trade; but to me; still no cup this year 👎😭🤬😡
I agree they add Caper.
I still don’t think they get to the conference finals if they do unless Rask stands on his head, which he is capable of.
Maybe because it will be viewed as their last stand they band together and pull it off.
Here’s hoping.
Hi Ray (and Caper)
With no move by Sweeney…. I agree that the SF are very likely a pipe dream
However; if he can somehow swing the top 6 winger and D depth move… that team; IMHO , takes the East
As at now hard to see them by Bolts or Knights even with a bold move
Catch-22 for Bruins and Pens…
Do nothing …. possibly battling for last East spot
Do a strength move… can get to semis but likely costing part of the “re-build” blocks and not getting the cup; and top players on each team next year in mid 30’s… window if not shut by then; almost closed
Highest plateau this year for either Bruins or Pens IMVHO; is losing to either Bolts or Knights in the SCF ; and that only happens if Bolts play Knights in the SF…. League still mum in how the SF match ups will be determined
Pens must go out and get a 3C
I understand the talk re Palmeiri ….. but little/no mention re Zajac???? Also UFA
Yes 5 1/2 years older; but production this year between the two almost identical with Zajac a plus player; Palmeiri on the neg side
Zajac is the more coveted position (C)
The difference at TDL acquisition is only ~ $300 K difference
Were NJ to retain 1/2 …. that difference is cut to about $150 K
With 50% retained @ TDL….
Z- cash after escrow ….~ 640 K, Cap ~ 800 K
P – cash ~ 480 K ; Cap ~ 650 K
Pens would certainly benefit with Zajac
Zajac has full NTC… But nearing the end of his career…. a Cup run would be nice
Palmeiri can be traded to 22 teams without his say so
Hello Pengy, Zajac is the poster child for underappreciated player. He declined to be traded last year which is his right, but what about this year? Similar to Coleman last year, if Fitz can get him to a contender he might be interested. If a team needs a center they can do a lot worse than Zajac. Does he score goals – occasionally. Does he make your team better with everything else he does – most definitely.
Hi Redmonsters
Fully agree with you
Would love him on Pens
His perfect fit is VGKs… their only need is possibly a 3C
Zajac goes to one of the two favs and actually gets a take-home pay raise for the balance of the year (no state taxes)
Knights are tight against cap but have some savings from LTIR (McNabb and Lehner)… but not quite enough a even at 50% retained
If Knights believe that Petro gets to the 24 days=10 game mark on LTIR…. no Cap issue
Otherwise it is a to-through necessary deal… where Bowman has already said he’s willing to do
Bowman would be paying in the $320 K range
NJ to get their 2nd back, plus a B prospect
Chi to get Knights 3rd (‘22) for the $320 K outlay
Trade Andersen?
Where’s the line forming for teams willing to trade assets for a goalie making 5 million dollars, cant win in the playoffs, is injured and is likely to depart as a UFA?
Complete drivel, this is the kind of tripe I expect from Brooks or HockeyBuzz.
Pretty sure Andersen takes a hometown discount to stay with the Leafs because the fans show him so much love.
Ron Jull
I think you’re missing that TOR would give up an asset for somebody to take Andersen and his $5M cap hit. His actual salary this year was $1M
Daryl, I think you’re missing that one man’s asset is another man’s long-shot. A pick low in whatever round and some non-entity like Dermott or Kerfoot are not going to excite any other GM.
Thank you, Ron.
Andersen traded out of T.O. at/before TDL??
Who is taking him?
UFA… so it’s a contending team, with space
Since he has not been a playoff performer…. what contending team takes him?
I don’t see it
Doobie at only about $600 K in Cap hit (@TDL) will certainly garner suitors
Sharks retain 50% of that… so Cap hit needed only in the $300 K range…. add a few more suitors
Quick has had a couple of nice games recently… but season still below 900 , and 5.8 M for 2 more years… not a wise move IMHO
Keumper , if not injured, I believe; would have been the go to goalie for acquisition at TDL
Anybody know his time-line for return?
Devils take Anderson from Toronto, trade you back Dell, sweetener?
I think Leafs should look at Ari and Buff as trading partners. Defencemen, forwards, goalies. Any combination will do.
How about Tavares, Andersen, Kerfoot, Liljegren and 1st round draft 2021 for McDavid and Kassian?
And then they laughed so hard, I woke up.
shoreorrpark..
love your trade proposal
leaves have no cap room, as per the 50%
Also, like the Columbus trade proposal…..as per walter, and mike, eating it up…
Habs fan,,, that;s why u r a habs fan, thinking edmonton would ever trade mcdavid
I see.
These comments are gold. No way in hell Rask agrees to be moved for 1 for 2 Boston isn’t interested in over paid under performing players we have our own as most of you say regularly right? The bruins are no where near as in trouble as y’all think. A solid D and a RW for Krejci and all will be good. We still have 5 games in hand and are still in the playoffs if it ended today. Injuries is the main problem . Trade Rask to TML I spit mu coffee
Rask lacks trade protection this year. He doesn’t have much of a choice if the Don wanted to move him.
The rest of your points are extremely valid.
Don doesn’t want to move him and I bet he won’t. Rask will resign for 2-3 yrs. he doesn’t want to play for another team
LOL
Bruins drafting and farm system can’t be that bad Providence has been lighting it up.
It’s good not the best for flashy high end players but sold. Achan and steen look good even tho they played Buff. Zboril is best of the bunch. Vladar looks great too. It’s just haters hating
Monday funnies:
Runner up:
Zwolinski acknowledges that Andersen might help some other team go on a long playoff run, but…
Winner:
An absurd conversation about who the 3rd option in net should be behind Campbell at 1 and Andersen as 2nd option. Folks, once you trigger option 2 your team is eliminated so no need to fret option 3, lol.
Bruins players there are to good for the minors but not good enough for the majors
Considering where they have been drafting for the last 3 years, they’re fine.
You guys do realize they have only been playing Bridgeport and Hartford over and over again? They’re better than those 2 teams, plus with taxi squads, so it is a little misleading.
I like our tender prospects, but who knows with goalies.
What I don’t see is the high end talent especially at C to replace Bergy and Krecji, which we will need soon.
If we don’t sign a top C as a UFA we will need to draft a couple and not usually available at the end of the first round.
Unfortunately ahl farm team success has little correlation to nhl team success. Look at ahl championship winners and then look upparent nhl teams that won the cup within 5 years and I think it’s only one in the past 20 years. Been awhile since I researched it.
Hi Chrisms
Some recent co-relation of AHL success leading to NHL success
WBS went to the finals; but didn’t win….in 08… Pens in SCF in ‘08; Sid et Al…. won SC in ‘09
Crunch went to finals in ‘13; 2 years later Bolts in SCF
Crunch in finals in ‘17; Bolts powerful since then and reigning SC champs
Texas Stars in finals in ‘18; Dallas Stars in SCF in ‘20
Bears went to Cup in ‘16; Caps won in ‘19
That’s about it I think
BRUINS can have Anderson, for a player to be named later
SOP – Bruins get out of 1st round, etc,,, the price goes up, but don”t worry , if U R Sold on Freddie, he specializes in a massive exit !!
Won’t happen no way Bruins trade him and definitely no to Toronto unless Mathews is involved outside of that there’s nothing they have to offer
2422 and other B fans,
Bergevin doesn’t want to let Dubas have all the headlines, announces deal with Sweeney.
To Boston
Price 10.5
To Montreal
Rask 7
Debrusk 3,65
cap is a wash.
Habs get a cheaper Goalie and the valuable Debrusk.
Bruins get to reignite the Price/Halak controversy after all these years on their way to a now probable cup run.
Lol 😂
Lol. Nice!
Rask has his finger on the retirement button. I believe he will go out his way. He”s won everything no ?
I can see Andersson in Edmonton. Not sure when.
Although boring I think Boston needs Savard. If they win they are winning by playing a low scoring tight checking defensive game,
He has a cup ring SilverSeven, but Timmy Thomas was the starter back then. Rask the backup.
Got to game 6 of SC final in 13, game 7 in 19.
On a serious note for BNG,
You asked me the other day about a Pettersson trade for Byron.
I have to revise my answer to you which was that it isn’t good for either team.
In a heartbeat for Habs.
Hard pass for Pittsburgh
Watched them both this weekend and Habs would come out much better
Best be trading the rights of Jordan Harris. He’s committed to staying in school for his 4th season.
50/50 on him signing with the Habs. We’ve seen this move before. He’s saying the right things, but I’d err on the side of caution.
Either way, I think he’ll be a good one.
2422,
About that logjam of LD in the habs pipeline, Harris is a 3rd round pick, in the running for the Hobie Baker and was known to be going to University to get his degree.
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With limited Junior, no ECHL and limited AHL, he’s better off staying at NCAA, maturing and being as ready as possible for the pros.
He even has strong competition from his Northeastern teammate Jayden Struble.
Any team trading for his rights has the same problem next year unless they think they can talk him out of school.
Yes, I suppose one could look at it like that, with the glass being half full and all, but I’m of the belief that he isn’t interested in playing in Montreal.
If he won’t sign, he walks. If he won’t sign wherever he’s traded, that no longer a Montreal problem, no?
My point was, deal the player for an asset or lose him for nothing. Pretty simple.
2422,
My inference was what asset would any team give up NOW for a player who could be a free agent?
Nashville couldn’t sign Vesey and traded his rights to Buffalo for a 3rd rounder, and Vesey signed with NYR. A cautionary tale for any team offering assets to Montreal.
I prefer to hold the pick for at least the time being.
Understood.
I’d probably let the clock tick on that one as well. I wouldn’t let it run out altogether without trying to deal him if he does refuse to sign though. He’s a good prospect.
Fredrik Andersson Isn’t going anywhere. There’s too many moving parts for that notion to be realistic. Dubas has made it clear he wants another forward and possibly a defenseman. Toronto and most other trading partners don’t have the Space to facilitate any kind of a deal without it being for multiple players if not involving a third team.
If FA was moved another goaltender would have to be coming back. That eliminates the likelihood for a one for one at the same position since Andersson by himself would not be of interest to a team giving up with the Leafs would want in return. Using Anaheim as an example, Toronto would have to include Nylander and a first for Rakell, Gibson and either a prospect or Anaheim’s 2021 3R for it to make any sense for both teams while checking off all of Dubas’ boxes. I don’t see that or anything along those lines going down since Andersson is a lending FA.
And for those who don’t think Gibson is the better goalie than Andersson think again
I say trade Andersen, Nylander, Kerfoot, Liljegren, Dermott, Robertson and 1st rounders in 2021 and 2022 to EDM for McDavid and Kassian.
Goalie? Ride Campbell. Pick up UFA after the season. Sign the Zamboni driver.
Sure.
And then Holland laughed so hard it woke me up.
What if we threw in Galchenyuk?
No, how about Nic Petan.
Rarely does Quantity over Quality win a trade
Habs get there first taste of Covid as both KK and Armia while Toffoli is out with lower body injury.
Laval Rocket are in Calgary so no players can be called up till tomorrow, Laurent Dauphin and Michael Frolik get their first starts if the game is played.
KK and Armia were both in the morning skate so this could quickly escalate.
About opening up and getting fans in the stands….maybe not.
What’s with all the “dumb” comments about trading Connor McDavid ….
A player of this nature falls into the Orr , Gretzky, Lemieux category , in a league of his own , and I am not an Edmonton Oiler fan …
Maybe, there are fans on here, still in public school
Pengy / Blackngold, some comments on your trade proposals from Detroit’s point of view: First, I doubt Detroit would trade Fabbri for Pettersson; Detroit is short on goal scorers, and Fabbri is one of the few we have. And he really isn’t a center, despite playing there out of necessity – he is more of a sniper, a quick one who is willing to go into the corners and the front of the net. I disagree with Pengy’s assessment of Glendening. Although not as quick as Fabbri, he isn’t slow. And he is the better defensive player – he is a specialist at it. He plays on the PK, Fabbri does not. Glendening is also the better forechecker. As for Pettersson, I don’t think so. Detroit needs three things out a younger defenseman – they need a LD, and he is that. But they also need some offense from their D’men, and a physical presence as well, and Pettersson is neither of those. Reliable and an OK skater, yes, but thanks but no thanks.
Thanks very much Iago for the insight on the two
I’ve only seen about 10 or so Wings games this year so my sample size is small and definitely open to small sample size extrapolation blindness …. and it sounds like that’s where I have an incorrect skewed opinion on Glendenning. You’ve likely seen them (Wings) all season and before this as well
My limited viewing of 10-12 or so games saw Fabri as a C maybe in 4 of those games. In all the games I saw him, he was out and out flying. Was not good on the draw though
The checking specialist doesn’t get as much notice and I guess that is why Fabri stuck out (to me) way over Glendenning
Again, limited viewing of games but my take in that small sample was a much much slower (than Fabbri) Glendenning that seemed to win most draws but had some defensive issues
So… I guess I read that wrong 🙁🙁
Would still take the much younger speedier athelete with better offensive numbers (sniper as you said) and 1 more year under contract over the older UFA defensive specialist
So my bad on the conclusion on Glendenning but your analysis of him as a defensive specialist is not what Pens need for 3C
Blueger is an excellent defensive centre, Pens only need one regular Defensive specialist C
Pens need a 3C that has good offensive hands… Carter (mostly a W now but has several hundred games as a C under his belt) and E Staal have great hands still
Both would come reasonably “cheap” in trade
Zajac is another option
The perfect change of scenery trade (for both players) , would be Henrique/Zucker flip
Leaving Pens with
Sid Guentz Rusty
Gino Kappy Rodrigues
Henrique McC Turbo (a speedy line)
Blueger ZAR Janko
Sceviour AA
That’s 3 scoring lines; and a shutdown line
In a separate trade Pettersson could be moved for a mid 6 winger that could be swapped in for Rodrigues or Blueger leaving the 3 interchangeable
Thanks again Iago for the insights on Fabbri and Glendenning
Thanks Pengy. If you are really looking for a center, I think there are better puck distributing ones than Fabbri. If you seek a finisher, then Fabbri is your man.