Sunday NHL Rumor Roundup – June 22, 2025
In the latest Sunday NHL Rumor Roundup: the latest on Jason Robertson, Mitch Marner, John Tavares, Rasmus Andersson and Noah Dobson, plus an update on the Flyers.
STARS ENTERTAINING OFFERS FOR JASON ROBERTSON
THE ATHLETIC: Pierre LeBrun reports the Dallas Stars aren’t actively shopping Jason Robertson, but they are listening to offers for the 25-year-old winger.
Robertson carries an average annual value (AAV) of $7.75 million and is slated to become a restricted free agent (RFA) with arbitration rights next July. LeBrun expects the Stars will take their time with this situation, whether he’s re-signed or traded at some point this summer.
Dallas Stars winger Jason Robertson (NHL Images).
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Stars general manager Jim Nill isn’t wasting time taking care of business this offseason. He re-signed Matt Duchene, Mavrik Bourque and Nils Lundkvist, and traded Mason Marchment to Seattle in a cost-cutting move.
The Stars have $2.75 million in cap space for 2025-26 with 18 active roster players under contract. Nill is expected to re-sign team captain Jamie Benn to a short-term, cost-effective deal. However, he must clear more cap space to re-sign or replace pending unrestricted free agents (UFAs) Mikael Granlund, Evgenii Dadonov, Brendan Smith, Cody Ceci and Colin Blackwell.
Robertson lacks no-trade protection. Moving him would free up a significant chunk of cap space, but it would also remove one of the top scorers from their lineup. It’ll be interesting to see what Nill has in store over the next several weeks.
THE LATEST ON MITCH MARNER AND JOHN TAVARES
LeBrun reports the “rumor de jour” is winger Mitch Marner could be considering a two-year contract for between $12 million and $13 million annually. He wasn’t able to confirm it, but said he’s heard it from a couple of teams now.
That would put the 28-year-old pending UFA in a position to hit the open market in two years, when the salary cap could reach $113 million or higher.
The Vegas Golden Knights, Dallas Stars and Los Angeles Kings are among the teams LeBrun believes are high on Marner’s list. The cap-strapped Stars are a long shot, but “never say never”.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: We could see some of this summer’s top UFAs accepting short-term contracts, hoping to cash in again in two, three or four years from now should the salary cap keep rising significantly.
Meanwhile, the Toronto Maple Leafs and John Tavares still aren’t close in contract extension talks. LeBrun still thinks they could get this done.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Score’s Josh Wegman cited LeBrun telling TSN’s Overdrive that there’s no way Tavares will sign for $5 million per season with the Leafs unless they’re willing to add term to the deal. That could mean four or five years instead of two to three.
Given the lack of quality centers in this summer’s UFA market, Wegman believes Tavares could be in high demand if he becomes available on July 1.
FLAMES ARE WILLING TO TAKE CALLS ABOUT RASMUS ANDERSSON
TSN: LeBrun cited sources indicating contract extension talks between the Calgary Flames and Rasmus Andersson didn’t go well this week. The 28-year-old defenseman is a year away from UFA status. He carries a cap hit of $4.55 million for 2025-26 and a six-team no-trade list.
LeBrun said the Flames are now ready to entertain trade offers for Andersson, suggesting there will be no shortage of interest in the right-shot blueliner. He could be a good fit with the Dallas Stars, but they’ve got salary-cap issues to sort out.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Flames can afford to wait until next year’s trade deadline if they don’t get any suitable offers this summer for Andersson. Nevertheless, the limited number of available right-shot rearguards in this summer’s free-agent market could improve the chance of someone meeting the Flames’ asking price, which could be a right-shot, second-line center.
RED WINGS INTERESTED IN NOAH DOBSON?
DETROIT HOCKEY NOW: Bob Duff cited Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman reporting the Red Wings are showing interest in Noah Dobson. The 25-year-old New York Islanders defenseman is an RFA with arbitration rights on July 1.
According to Duff, Friedman said forwards JT Compher and Jonatan Berggren were being offered as part of the return. Red Wings GM Steve Yzerman could also part with draft picks in the deal to make it happen.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Compher and Berggren are third-line forwards. That would be a lowball trade offer for a skilled puck-moving defenseman like Dobson, who is rumored to be seeking a long-term contract with an AAV of $11 million.
UPDATE ON THE FLYERS
DAILY FACEOFF: Anthony Di Marco reported last week that the Philadelphia Flyers aren’t in a position to make a major addition to their roster this summer. They have roughly $13 million in dead cap space, and while they could put Ryan Ellis ($6.25 million) on long-term injury reserve (LTIR), they prefer not to do that if possible, to accrue cap space during the season.
Di Marco believes the Flyers will look for stopgap measures to address their depth at center. They could look at someone like Adam Gaudette of the Ottawa Senators in free agency. The Flyers are well-stocked with wingers, making it unlikely they’ll pursue someone like JJ Peterka of the Buffalo Sabres or Jason Robertson of the Dallas Stars.
“Mason Marchment was traded to the Seattle Kraken, a “no-tax” state, as part of a deal that aimed to accommodate his preferences and the Dallas Stars’ salary cap issues. This move reflects a trend where players may prefer teams in states with lower taxes to maximize their earnings.”
This explains the low return.
You’re citing a quote, Johnny. Can you provide the link, please?
Lyle, by internet search with the quote above, found similar words by Jeff Marek.
Lyle I heard that too, I think it was a talking head on a Toronto sports radio. They believe to honor the deal Dallas signed him, it was something apparently marchment wanted so his take home wouldn’t take a hit if say he was traded to Toronto….can you smell the flowers? 😀😭
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nhl/mason-marchment-trade-state-tax-debate-nhl/
https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/stars_marchment_trade_sparks_more_nhl_tax_concerns_in_nhl/s1_16454_42352834
https://x.com/JeffMarek/status/1935889956897169454
https://www.mapleleafsdaily.com/nhl-team/toronto-maple-leafs/nhl-insider-reveals-controversial-reason-why-the-maple-leafs-missed-oiut-on-mason-marchment
Merek had said that the Leafs were after him too. Leafs could not compete with the tax advantage.
Marchment deciding that keeping more of his money was better than a better team????
There were more articles, but I bet they were all quoting Merek
Thanks for the links, Johnny. I hadn’t read or heard Marek’s comments.
Nill certainly did Marchment a favor, considering the latter had a 16-team no-trade list. He could’ve sent him to any of the other teams. Obviously Seattle was on his list. Of course, it helps that Seattle wanted him. And as Marek suggests, it bolsters Nill’s reputation as a GM willing to do right by his players.
However, the reason for the low return from the Kraken doesn’t necessarily mean they would’ve received a better return. The purpose was to remove Marchment’s entire salary from the Stars’ books to free up cap room to re-sign Matt Duchene. Marchment’s AAV was $4.5 million, and that how much Duchene’s new AAV is.
Might they have received a little better than a third and a fourth rounder? Maybe, but not much better. Marchment’s a good third-line forward, but nobody’s handing over first-rounders to get him. Meanwhile, the Stars replaced the third and fourth round picks they had traded away previously.
The Kraken being in a no-tax state may have helped them acquire Marchment, but that doesn’t mean they have a so-called advantage when it comes to building a winner. They still had to pay big bucks on long-term contracts for Chandler Stephenson and Brandon Montour, deals that (given the age of those two) probably won’t age well. To be fair, other clubs likely would’ve done the same, tax advantage or no.
I also read speculation that Nill wasn’t exactly thrilled with the anaemic offense from Marchment in the playoffs (among others), and is determined to beef up secondary and D offensive output
Forwards
Dadonov 16gp 1 goal
Benn 18gp 1 goal
Marchment 18gp 1 goal
Steel 18gp 1 goal
Duchene 18gp 1 goal
Blackwell 11go 1 goal
Back 11go 1 goal
Defense
Heiskanen 8gp 1 goal
Lyubushkin 14gp 0 goals
Petrovik 17gp 1 goal
Lindell 18gp 1 goal
Bichsel 18gp 0 goals
So players just figured out different cities have differing tax rates, some more favorable than others? C’mon, give me a break, We need to stop with this tax nonsense as there are plusses and minusses in each city that could factor up to and including who is on the team, who is the coach, etc,etc. When you look at the tax rates issue we’re talking about a small amount of money. It is not a case where player is making millions more because they signed in Florida. It used to be said no one wanted to play in the non-traditional hockey market, where its hot and tons of bugs, there was no way Florida could compete with Markets like Toronto or Boston to get free agents to come. Times change, Different players end up on certain teams and the natural ebb and flow continues and not because of tax rates. How do these false rumors get started anyway?
The whole no tax thing is so overblown and hockey pundits who don’t understand the nuances should just talk hockey. Washington is also a “no tax state”. Just because a state doesn’t have an income tax doesn’t mean the cost of living is lower or that the state has higher property and sales taxes. Every hockey writer or pod that cites no tax states shows their own cluelessness about finance. Stick to hockey boys and girls
Philly looking at stopgap measures at center,Boston is full of them. Take your pick of Beecher,Poitras,Kastellac, Middlestadt,Kman.Brown,Farinacci .
” The Score’s Josh Wegman cited LeBrun telling TSN’s Overdrive that there’s no way Tavares will sign for $5 million”
Did Duschene set the market for 2C’s that are in such high demand? 4x$4.5
If recent signings are any indication this off-season will see deals at much lower levels than predicted.
HF30: I am not going to ride my no tax hobby horse 😉 but given the demand for centers the explanation with Duschene is what he will net.
Slick62: You are focusing on one exclusive area if Florida. Different internet sites quote anything from a 3.8% decline to a 1.8% increase over the past year.
George: Granlund is a whisker younger than Duschene and Tavares. Bet all get a 4 year deal. It’s an ideal time to be a centre.
Duschene is getting paid from Nashville buyout, 6.5 this season and then 3 x 1.5
Premier, yep.
Plus he signed for 4 years which is longer term than teams would want for a 34 yr old (35 in Jan).
Add in he wanted to stay in Dallas, they are a very good team, and yes, taxes, and it all adds up to him staying.
I can’t imagine it’s ever just one thing.
I tend to agree that Tavares won’t take $5m. He’ll give the Leafs a discount but not that much of a discount.
Don’t know if he’d come to Montreal but I’d offer 4 years at $7-8m. AAV.
Duchene is still getting paid by Nashville for his buyout. 6.5 mil this season and 1.5 mil for the next 3 seasons after that so he will actually make over 10 mil this season and around 6 mil for the rest of his deal with Dallas. Tavares doesn’t have a buyout boosting his salary so those are completely different situations. Duchene might be giving Dallas a discount but he’s still getting paid a lot…just with Nashville picking up the difference.
I’m not an accountant, but there’s more to this “no state tax” argument than folks get. Florida relies on tourism and has higher sales taxes than a lot of states. Cost of living in Broward county (where Panthers play) is about 10% higher that national average. House prices and local taxes have skyrocketed.
Slick62 you are exactly right but nobody wants to hear that. There is no free lunch. I spend alot of time in FL. Besides the high real estate cost, most condos and gate neighborhoods, which covers tons of the state have massive HOA fees compared to Northern States that’s just one example. Ohio is heading hard towards no income tax so get ready to hoist the cup in Cbus:)
…when they sign Marner in a week you’ll look like a damn prophet.
There’s an advantage to the no-tax state. Many of these players are Canadian. They’re primary residence isn’t the state they play in. Also (as pointed out numerous times by Lyle) when they play road games they are taxed on that work in those states(countries) it’s all quite complex. I’m just saying there are arguments on both sides. I’m on the “advantage side” but it’s not as much as folks think. Still. All taxes are too high.
I think Dallas wants to find away to keep Granlund . I also feel Benn will move on. A change in the leadership group rather than an insulting offer . Can’t afford him or Dadonov
If Nill can’t free up the cap space needed to re-sign Granlund, outside of the obvious UFA centers like Tavares, he become easily the best available. The 5′ 10″ 185 lb 33 y/o (he turns 34 early in 2026) is coming off a 22g 44a 66pt season split between San Jose and Dallas and a $5 mil cap hit.
The question is …. what will he and his agent be seeking? At his age he can’t expect any kind of a significant raise AND term beyond 2 maybe 3 years.
George,
Granlund at 5’10 185 33y/o coming off a 66pt season is the second best 2C available.
I won’t disagree with you but I question why others claim Rossi at 5’9 182 23 y/o coming off a 60 pt season is too small or a 3C etc.
He’s 1 inch shorter than Granlund and that makes him a smurf.
You haven’t made any of the negative comments on Rossi but I just had to comment.
The same sort of situation exists with Claude Giroux of Ottawa (although he doesn’t play C his excellence in the face-off circle is used frequently).
His 3-year term signed with Ottawa at an AAV of $6,500,000 is ending, and while he has Brisson as his agent, turning 38 in January neither can reasonably expect any significant term or an AAV of anything more than $4 mil.
He is durable for his age (1 game missed in 3 seasons in Ottawa), but his offense has shown a steady decline
1st season – 82gp 35g 44a 79pts
2nd season – 82gp 21g 43 64pts
3rd season – 81gp 15g 35a 50pts
A Perron-type deal of $4 mil per – but for 2 years – would seem reasonable.
If he thinks he can get more when it comes to term, or perhaps in excess of $4 mil per over a short term via free agency, by all means go for it. But caveat emptor.
habfan30, I more or less just snickered at comments citing Rossi’s size (5′ 9″ 182lbs) as a potential “problem.”
I think I may have rebutted one such some weeks back by saying I saw a lot of him with the Ottawa 67s and that he more than held his own in any heavy going.
Going back over the years there have been quite a few “smallish” centers who excelled, led by the likes of Henri Richard (5′ 7″ 160lbs), Stan Mikita (5′ 9″ 169 lbs), Ken Wharram (5′ 9″ 155 lbs), Martin St. Louis (5′ 8″ 176 lbs), Marcel Dionne (5′ 8″ 185 lbs).
And all played in the league when, in many respects, it was a lot more “physical” than it is today overall.
I like Rossi and if the Wild end up dealing him, whoever gets him will be getting an impact player.
HF30: Ok, fair comment on the difference in size between Granlund and Rossi. But there is another, significant difference: contract cost and length. I don’t want the Habs to have a 2C under 6′.
To George: yes, St. Louis is a valid, recent example of a small player who was a star.
To you both: My objection to a small centre is based on the Habs’s roster which already has three small players in Caulfield, Gallagher and Hutson. Carrier is 5’11” but listed at 174 pounds.
We just witnessed 4 rounds of hard, injury filled playoffs. So no to any more small players on the Habs unless it is short term and with no viable alternatives.
LJ, his size at a time when a Hell of a lot more rough stuff went on than it does today, didn’t deter Henri from winning 11 Stanley Cups.
And those early Habs teams weren’t exactly giants overall.
You can’t hit what you can’t keep up with.
Yes, speed kills. Until you kill speed.
You have a nostalgic view of the style of play “back in the day.” Players had less equipment, and it wasn’t as good. It diminished contact. Think rugby verses football.
On the topic of both speed and nostalgia consider this:
roadrunner top speed;23 mph
coyote top speed: 43 miles per hour.
We were lied to in our childhood by the bugs bunny show, George.
Well, LJ, at least consider this – Rossi never missed a game while with the 67s, and in his past two full seasons in Minnesota, has played in all 82 games each season, with 82-game averages of 23g 28a 51 pts. Considerably better than any of Evans, Dvorak, Newhook or Dach.
So, either he has taken hits with no ill effect … or no one’s managed to get a good piece of him.
I’m with LJ on this one. 2C needs to be over 6 ft. He may not be available this year and I’m okay waiting until next summer to try again. Sounds like many teams need a 2C and so the asking price will likely be too high. Signing Rossi to a 7X$7 million dollar contract would be foolish given he hasn’t done anything to prove he is worth that money. He was relegated to the 4th line in the playoffs and the Wild don’t think he’s worth 7X$7. Reminds me of another promising center who once played for Montreal. He was healthy scratched in the 2021 finals but Carolina knew better and signed him to a one yr $6.1 million (and yes, I know there were other reasons for the signing). How did that work out? Not to mention, you would have to give up assets to get Rossi. So it’s not that Granlund’s 1 inch height advantage makes him such a better prospect as a 2C, it’s the fact that you don’t have to give up any assets and you don’t have to sign him to 7X$7 that makes him more appealing. And unless he is willing to sign a 2-3yr deal, I’d pass on him as well.
It’s easy to get ahead of yourself when you see your team make the playoffs. Exciting times. But lets be realistic, you need 16 games to lift Lord Stanley and we won 1. Long way to go. Slow and steady may be the way to go. And LJ, thanks for explaining why I never get any of my orders from the ACME company.
Wow, a coyote can run 43 mile per hour! That’s pretty impressive LJ.
No wonder my dog never catches them, and they are simply in a smooth glide.
LOL. Actually those suckers have to be on methamphetamine – lol –
No, I don’t think it is reasonable to look at Duchesne as setting the market or rather simply by the pay from Dallas. It is easy to forget he has another 6.5 this year from the Preds with 1.5 in years 2 to 4 of his Dallas contract.
So while Dallas has a Duchesne at 18M over 4 years..Duchesne is actually grossing closer to 30M over 4 years.
True. Once people arm themselves with a bit of knowledge, the darkness of ignorance dissolves.
Interested. How do you calculate 30 million from that contract?
He might be counting his buyout $’s as well in that figure
lol, the buyout has nothing to do with a contract he signed with Dallas.
Other sources of income don’t determine a player’s worth or value. An open market determines that value and if he and his agent felt he was worth X dollars, it isn’t calculated a X-buyout $= contract demand.
If he is worth 4x$7.5 for example in a market that has 2C’s in demand, he’d have waited till July 1 instead of leaving $3 million on the table.
I could be wrong but maybe Pat Brisson knows something about the market for his client.
Fair points but other sources of income do factor in a player’s consideration in taking a team friendly contract to remain on a contender in a situation they are comfortable in.
And no agent is going to use the Duchesne base dallas contract as a comparable to any client that is fielding offers on July 1.
If a GM tries…the agent will likely be making a si.ilar argument to what I have. Wouldn’t you for your client?
1Oilerfan
“If a GM tries…the agent will likely be making a si.ilar argument to what I have. Wouldn’t you for your client?”
If a GM said the player needs to accept less since he’s getting a payout elsewhere wouldn’t his agent say my client is worth X on the market, pay it or we see July 1.
Wouldn’t you for your client?
Point is all we know for a fact is that Duschene is a 2C and he was the first to sign and it ts 4x$4.5.
Had he signed a 4x$7, everybody would say he set the market with no mention of Nashville money.
Going to be a rumor filled and trade/UFA/RFA action in the NHL for the next 2+ weeks …
Bruins needs
Draft a Center
If they sign Geekie then they will need a additional goal scoring winger or 2 ..if they don’t sign him they need 2 or 3 scoring wingers
Get a solid top 3 Dman
trade Korpisalo sign DiPierto as Sways backup
Get a S Thornton type 4th line winger … Merlot Line
Joe their entire forward group other than Zacha,Pasta,Geekie,Lindholm are bottom 6 forwards and third pair Defensemen.Agree they need a top 3 RH D man.They need 2 top 6 forwards in addition to Geekie. Most of all they need Swayman to play like his contract value.They also need Mcavoy and Lindholm to stay out of the trainers room.Joe this is a soft rebuild,not even a retool. They are lucky they play in the Eastern Conference which is much softer than the gauntlet out west!
I can’t see how Dallas will have the money to sign Granlund unless he takes a big discount. They still have five roster spots to fill with 2.755 million left to spend. Even if they trade Dumba they would have 6.505 million to spend on six roster spots.
As good as Dallas management has been, I think they could have got more for Marchment.
They have a top notch scouting staff. How does their top three selections in 2017 look…. Heiskanen 3rd overall, Oettinger 26th overall and Robertson 39th overall. Talk about a homerun.
You can throw in Thomas Harley at 18th overall in 2019, Wyatt Johnston at 23rd overall and Stankoven at 47th overall in 2021
I’d be completely fine with the Jets signing Tavares to a 2 year, $20M deal. The window is only open for so long…
$10 M per year for Tavares?
For 2 years to fix the Jets 2C issue? Sure.
Hey, the guy only turns 35 in September and has been, essentially, a point a game player throughout his career, in addition to being durable and reliable.
It is not all what the player’s expected worth is to the team in production (based on previous/recent production)
IF he was 9 1/2 months younger; then not a 35+ contract that a team can be stuck with if playing goes sour; then $10 M per for 2, maybe.
Yes the contract could be structured with identical amounts of $10 M and no Signing bonus in year two to avoid the “35 +” contract (owning the Cap regardless) ; but I just don’t see Tavares taking a contract that has no SB in year two and is $10 M in Salary for year 2.
Too high IMO
More reasonable options are out there.
And, they just got Toews as a C
some team will go longer term offer at a hair-cut to current Cap
I think what he meant to say is, “10 million per year for a guy who was 12th in Goals last season”
What would a buyout of Seguin cost ? Two years at $9.8 m remaining
Might be a better option than trading 25 year old Robertson
They only have one slot left and likely a bigger bang than buyout of Dumba
According to the Web – a lot
“If the Dallas Stars were to buy out Tyler Seguin’s contract in 2025, it would cost them $9.1 million in the 2025-26 season and $9.2 million in the 2026-27 season. This is calculated based on his remaining base salary and the terms of a standard NHL buyout.
Here’s a breakdown:
• Seguin’s Contract:
He has a $9.85 million cap hit and $2.95 million base salary in the 2025-26 season.
Buyout Calculation:
For players 26 or older, a buyout is 2/3 of the remaining salary, spread over twice the remaining years.
2025-26:
His base salary is $2.95 million. Two-thirds of that is $1,966,667. This amount is then divided by two (since the buyout spans two years) resulting in $983,333.50. This is added to the remaining cap hit ($9,850,000 – $2,950,000 = $6,900,000) to get the buyout cap hit: $6,900,000 + $983,333.50 = $7,883,333.50, which rounds to $9,100,000.
2026-27:
The calculation is similar, with a slightly different base salary, resulting in a $9,200,000 buyout cap hit.”
Not worth it!!!! saves nearly zilch!
SAVINGS:
$750,000 YR 1
$650,000 YR2
$-350,000 YR 3
$-350,000 YR 4
They absolutely won’t buy him out.
IF, big IF, they want to move him out to save; retaining 50% and getting something in return ; anything; works out better cap wise for them. NOTE: Full NMC; so damn nigh impossible to move him. Very hard to think that he is moved.
Robertson (no trade protection) would easily bring in a young NHL forward; and a prospect; and save Cap. That may be an option as well.
He’s a lefty that can play on the RW.
If Vancouver does not re-up Boesser, might they make a bid for Robertson?
Also moving Robertson (if Dallas does consider it) would be very lucrative After July 1st when his Signing bonus is paid. He’s then only owed $1.5 M
Using a middle team (with Cap space) that wants to rid a crap contract; and they could take Robertson’s 50% Cap hit to do it:
Hmmmm let’s say Accairi ….
Pen’s take on 50% of Robertson (after July 1st); costs Pens $750K; but they dump Accairi back to Dallas (that’s a $1.5 M commitment gone; saving Pens $750 K overall and ridding Pens of Accairi. Pens could also net a pick sweetner as well.
Dallas buries Accairi, and only has $850 K of his Cap showing above the line; moving out Robertson ($7.75 M); has a net of $6.9 M Cap savings for Dallas; AND they would get a huge return as the final team is getting Robertson for $750 K Cash out lay for 25/26 and only a Cap hit of $3.9 M
Return has to be at least a young up and coming winger (top 6 potential) still on ELC; and another young NHLer (mid 6 Fwd) at a reasonable Cap hit; and a pick.
Canucks? (replacing Boeser with Robertson in above):
Hoglander + Lerkerimaki + 1St + prospect?
Was looking at wrong year for Robertson. He’s all Sal in 25/26 at $9.3 M
Dang, thought there was an easy punt of Accairi
now with that knowledge; better still
Pre July 1st:
To Vancouver:
Robertston at 50% (retention by Pens)
Hayes
Accairi
and a 3rd from Pittsburgh;
To Dallas:
Hoglander,
Lerkerimaki
2nd in ’26 (Jets from Pens)
To Pitt :
Dumba (dumped from Dallas)
Prospect that Dallas was going to get in my previous proposal
1st (Vancouver’s); that was to go to Dallas in previous proposal.
Vancouver gets Robertson, Hayes, Accairi for a Cap hit in ’25/’26 less than that of Hoglander and Boeser; AND they get to re-sign Robertson; at the expense of Lerkerimaki + prospect and differential of 1st to 3rd round picks
Dallas frees up buckets in space; dumps Dumba; and gets Hoglander, Lettermaki and a 2nd
Pens dump Hayes and Accairi at the expense of taking on Dumba for 1 year; and get another 1st for some extra cash (1 year only) and get another 1st (trading out late 2nd and late 3rd).
“According to Duff, Friedman said forwards JT Compher and Jonatan Berggren were being offered as part of the return. Red Wings GM Steve Yzerman could also part with draft picks in the deal to make it happen.” Nobody wants Compher and Berggren in their returns any more than they want Accairi and Hayes!!!!! A very good player deserves better than average player(s) in return!
Y would have to give ASP and Danielson and then a salary like Compher in the return. And then Compher’s salary might be too much for what he brings and Rasmussen might be more acceptable.
Why does everything always have to circle back to the Penguins with you?
I’m basically an Ottawa fan … but I am also a fan of the game in general, and can – and often do (lol – to a fault maybe) – give opinions and thoughts on other team’s moves or non -moves.
Huh? I just usually talk about what is being discussed unless something new and newsworthy comes up.
I mentioned Accairi and Hayes because hearing about them in a return is even more ridiculous than Compher and Berggren in a package for a very good player. The 2 Pens were mentioned in 3 posts prior (at least) and many more in days prior to that.
Sorry Johnny Z … that got misplaced … I think you know who I was responding to … right above you
Johnny Z, i think he was pointing finger at 8787. George’s comment was published only 2 minutes after yours. Hé probably hasn’t seen yours before he sent his comment.
Oops. My bad. Haven’t refresh my page before submitting my comment. Didn’t see George O’s answer.
Haven’t posted in awhile but always lurking in the shadows. I have to say many good minds out here and always appreciate different views.
The Leafs have had well meaning but bad asset management under the former GM. If building an NHL team were like building a PlayStation team Toronto would have won the cup 9 yrs in a row.
They didn’t.
Instead we ended up with John Tavares inflated contract for 7 yrs that served as a benchmark for the other stars who didn’t really take a home town discount but were all too happy to take NMCs.
They gave all proven these are players that get you to the playoffs but then underperform under pressure.
And each year there’s musical chairs where draft picks and prospects went out the door for rentals and then allowed to walk the following year.
In the end you have Mitch Marner who thinks about himself first and Toronto second. Was it his right to play out his contract and then leave the team with nothing?
John Tavares wasn’t well respected by islanders fans after he did that to then.
So I’ll say this fir what it’s worth. Giving entitled hockey players NMCs with huge contracts straps teams snd rewards players who have protection from being moved for underachievement. See Leafs’ last 9 yrs to figure that out.
Can’t argue those points, Frank. NM and NT clauses drive me up the wall. Whether the players like or not a GMs job is to do what he thinks best for the franchise, and if that involves trading someone to a location he may not favour, so sad – too bad.
For those who defend the clauses by saying players have the “right” not to be uprooted miss the point that it’s a 32-team league (and will probably go up again in the not-too-distant future), and that fact alone ensure them of jobs that will pay most total income that the average fan who pays the freight can only imagine.
And for the who defend it, what about those who have no such “protection” in their contracts? Is it just “too bad – so sad” where they are concerned?
You’re in the NHL – where you wind up is the decision of the GMs for their perceived betterment of the team.
In my Opinion Tavares will get and is worth a minimum of 7.5 over 4 years. Brock Nelson got 7.5 for crying out loud Johnin my opinion is a better player.
John Tavares is good 4-6 feet in front of the net, takes a lot of abuse snd is very strong on face offs. However he’s ready slow snd not very productive I post season.
If he wants to make 7.5 million of more for 3 plus years, he can take his pajamas elsewhere.
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John Tavares is good 4-6 feet in front of the net, takes a lot of abuse and is very strong on face offs. However he’s really slow and not very productive in the post season.
If he wants to make 7.5 million of more for 3 plus years, he can take his pajamas elsewhere.
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